Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Have A Religion by davien(m): 11:52am On Mar 13, 2015 |
laniyi07: you do believe in geology.....I see.......do u believe in the geologic time scale too?
try to get ur facts right before u post here next time, you only got people more confused on your take on the gigamesh saga. You don't speak for everyone and I get what you're doing with the term "believe"..  You're basically using tautology as an escape tactic to meander around topics... And to that I'll simply point out(once again) that reality is not contingent on belief(that-is things don't become true because you believe it, they are independent of your belief)... So either tell me what's "confusing" you instead of replying with an empty response like "try to get your facts right" |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Have A Religion by davien(m): 8:50am On Mar 13, 2015 |
laniyi07: when u say 'follow' wat exactly do u mean? are you sayin gilgamesh (or watever u call it) flood event happened before the bible's. which account do u believe in gilgamesh or genesis(bible) For starters I don't have to believe either because the reality of the past is not contingent on my belief.... And geology does not support such wild tales.. You can't have a worldwide flood and have unique geographic structures and their respective animals living in distinct habitats with no identical fossil were it shouldn't be... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Scholars Found Ancient Confessions Proving Jesus Story Was Made Up by davien(m): 7:23pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
pashaun: I know. Christians don't want to hear it!
Clearly the Romans were mocking the Jews and laughing at these stupid christians for believing the shit they created lol Religion was the primary way of controlling the masses and making money. The obvious sign to anyone would have been the modeling of "god/gods" after the societies theme.....kingship.....10% taxation.....And Roman cultural attires(robes) |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Have A Religion by davien(m): 7:18pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
laniyi07: can you site a specific example to support your 'evidence' What is particularly noticeable is the way the Genesis flood story follows the Gilgamesh flood tale "point by point and in the same order", even when the story permits other alternatives.
In a 2001 Torah commentary released on behalf of the Conservative Movement of Judaism, rabbinic scholar Robert Wexler stated:
"The most likely assumption we can make is that both Genesis and Gilgamesh drew their material from a common tradition about the flood that existed in Mesopotamia. These stories then diverged in the retelling." http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Gilgamesh |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Invented 'Moses'? by davien(m): 7:14pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
shadowgwalker: akùkor!no be same human being talk say nah myth?why do you now accept to believe the later? Either you love believing falsehoods or you're trolling to hide your ignorance...  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Have A Religion by davien(m): 1:37pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
laniyi07: reason comes to play here again.....kudos.....look at it this way. the people who wrote the bible were inspired to do so(u just have to agree to this fact), my question is; do you know who/what inspired them? Evidence sites they were inspired by previous incarnation of myths....like the epic of gilgamesh and ancient pre-judaic legends like the coming of immanuel.... |
Christianity Etc › Re: What’s Going To Happen Soon! Vision by Olav Rodge by davien(m): 12:52pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
nice fictional story, it parallels the war of the worlds' first radio broadcast....Imagine if scientology existed then.. ..I'm Sure it'll religiously motivate the believers the same earth this story is supposed to... |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Kalām Cosmological Argument by davien(m): 12:44pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
AlfaSeltzer: But what caused cause? super cause...And it demands you believe it.... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by davien(m): 11:20am On Mar 12, 2015 |
goshap: the idea of pointing it out is to see if its disputable or not, forget the authenticity of the bible here, whether jesus is a fairy tale or not, non of ma bizz, whether his the Christian version of prince charming is not da point. When nothing can be substantiated about a claim it's ignored because it's useless... The point is since the Christians are followers of christ, as a guru, an enlightened one, a god blah blah blah. I want you to point out where he went wrong, one imperfect, flaw in his sheld of doctrines that the Christians follow, cause Christians are suppose to be like him. FYI-THE WORD CHRISTIAN MEANS CHRIST LIKE. Again....not pointing out anything wrong about anything doesn't mean it's true either.... Not withstanding the character portrayed in the bible did throw tantrums over merchants in an alleged temple(similar to an extremist) plus the incessant need of the characters doctrine to instigate "judaism" and propagate anti-semitism.. And the word "christian" is and has been subjective(as in unique) to each denomination of "christianity"....And so as a likely protestant(correct me if you aren't) that's what "christian" means to you... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Invented 'Moses'? by davien(m): 11:13am On Mar 12, 2015 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Have A Religion by davien(m): 1:23am On Mar 12, 2015 |
laniyi07: ur knowledge of the bible is impressive....do you or use to have a relationship with the author of the bible? The numerous authors of the bible are long dead... |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by davien(m): 10:01pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
Joshthefirst: I see I made a quite serious mistake misrepresenting you. Accept my apologies. I will correct myself now:
Here sits davien; a follower of the dogma of evolution
Signature comments: I am an ape by definition. I arose from predictable processes of nature though I cannot recreate those processes.
The ancient greek philosophers also had notions of common physical ancestry between man and monkeys and gorillas too if that also gives you some form of credit. It's quite shocking how you misrepresent basic things... |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by davien(m): 9:07pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
Joshthefirst: I can say the same about you.
Here sits davien, a follower of the dogma of evolution. Signature comments: My ancestor was an ape. I arose from random processes of nature. Apart from the fact that I've never said those words,i think you're misrepresenting what's actually the case... Actually humans are "apes" by definition....the father of taxonomy(Carl Linnaeus) who's a creationist actually grouped humans as primates long before evolution was proposed... "Thus he placed man and monkeys under the same category, Anthropomorpha, meaning "manlike." http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_LinnaeusAnd I doubt one could call nature entirely random.....most things in nature is/are very well deterministic and/or predictable. |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by davien(m): 8:51pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
Maamin: What do you understand by the word 'dogma'
Secondly you should know what I tie my belief system to.
I hope you dont have the same thought as Davien's fairy tale "ken ham and dinosaurs"? Rebranding creationist cult belief to my name will do you no good.....you'll have established your dishonesty to everyone following up.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Have A Religion by davien(m): 8:47pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
laniyi07: hmmm....... I didnt mention the bible in my initial post cos I wanted people like u to figure it out.lemme now quote another powerful one to answer you. 'the message of the cross is foolishness to them that are perishing but to usward is the power of God'.
I still would v preferred u had not mentioned the bible but now that u have. maybe we should talk about the book small na It's funny that you'd think I wouldn't know that you were highlighting a verse in the "bible".. And I think if you'd like to draw out your "bible", then do so instead of putting your tongue in your cheek and missing one verse after the other... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is God Jealous Of? by davien(m): 8:42pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
Joshthefirst: Faith is not a path to truth. Faith is a response to truth. You either have faith in the truth or you reject it. As for the question of which information is true, the information supported by witnesses is true. So truth relies on faith?...so how can one know what is true then if "truth" is subjective and can only be known by faith? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Have A Religion by davien(m): 7:39pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
laniyi07: a fool says in his heart 'there's no God'. does this mean atheist are fools?
na question o and as una like to reason na im I say make we reason this matter o Well...If you're a christian...that's what you're bred to believe... But if you aren't then that statement becomes nonsensical...because the bible is riddled with foolish ideas....like how birds blood could cure leprosy and how stars can be trampled on... |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by davien(m): 7:35pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
Joshthefirst: How do you know? maamin,meet joshthefirst....a creationist. Signature comments are; "How do you know?" "Where you there?" |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is God Jealous Of? by davien(m): 7:27pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
Joshthefirst: There is only one God.
Polymerizing the issue will not help. Pointing out different religious concepts will not invalidate truth. Really?....So is faith a path to truth when everything and anything can be "true" by faith? Isn't it the same faith people use for "allah's hell"? |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by davien(m): 6:42pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
Maamin: I would have taking you seriously if you had asked me to check within the pages of my bible for evidence...#seems like a straw man's argument to me. Did you bother reading any post of this conversation? I gave an account of a christian cult asserting the earth to be 6000 years old....you asked follow up questions on that(which is a normal thing to do), then went on to ask for "evidence" in the "bible" from someone who doesn't hold that belief(which is me)... If anyone is presenting a strawman(i.e misrepresenting a case), then it's you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is God Jealous Of? by davien(m): 4:58pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
Hiswordxray: is not "jealous of" but "jealous for" He is jealous in this sense: Protective, zealously guarding, careful in the protection of something one has or appreciates. God is jealous for the ones He loves and this is the reason He would protect them from evil and wickedness. God will achieve this by throwing every form of wickedness and evil into Hell. God loves you but if you choose to be a part of evil and wickedness even after He had try to cut you off from it. Then you would be thrown into Hell together with the evil you refuse to depart from.
Separate yourself from evil now before it's too later. lol....have you prepped yourself for "allah's hell"? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Challenge Go All Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers by davien(m): 4:54pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
So if one can't point out any evil thing the mythology of "jesus" did, does that make it true? If I can't point out one evil thing Santa claus does, does that make everything or anything about Santa true? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Have A Religion by davien(m): 4:44pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
folaski: your assumption about me is wrong to start with. I wonder if i have ever even met you.
Note that i did not say that there is a general ideology. But for clarity you share yours and i will point you to your god from it. Dare to try ? I'm not aware of any ideology I follow nor idolize... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by davien(m): 4:43pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
SIRANDREWS: as long as you don't believe in the existence of any known/ worshipped god, you're an atheist!!! True...but it still borders on knowledge and what position you place on knowledge of "god/gods"... I do not claim to know what "god/gods" are, so it's entirely non-existent to me...making me an agnostic atheist... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by davien(m): 2:59pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
nana228: I had to Lol. I wish you know me but don't worry. The level I got to in Christianity, you might never get to it. If you open your eyes, yearn for knowledge and search for it, you'll be freed from the shackles of religion. They tell you not to think, just believe and that is where your problem lies.
Please don't feel you can read me. Nothing happened to me. My life is less bulkier than yours. https://www.nairaland.com/2097077/pastor-punches-boy-not-taking |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Have A Religion by davien(m): 2:56pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
So tell us the ideologies that atheists share, I'm sure you're the usual guy who copies and pastes stuff without any knowledge....So you'll probably start listing materialism...and scientific axioms that have nothing to do with atheism. |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Simple Mathematics For All Christians To Know by davien(m): 2:46pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
Maamin: Stop lying Adam did not exist the same time with dinosaurs  You can google "ken ham and dinosaurs" to see what a fellow christian and his cult following have to say about that... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Our Lord Jesus Christ Is That Holy Ghost Sent Forth Into All The Earth. by davien(m): 3:52am On Mar 11, 2015 |
And why should we believe any of this? if it's "bible said so" how does it become more believable than "Koran said so"? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by davien(m): 3:49am On Mar 11, 2015 |
goshap: english chai, they change one thing they feel the interpretation has changed. Hmm Arrow why so defensive it was a joke. Where's ur sense of humour, i guess u lost it rebranding n branding. Troll you are then... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by davien(m): 3:38am On Mar 11, 2015 |
goshap: when you bored with the theme, you shud consider rebranding to Xtian. Because? It's either you're ignorant that the two brands I name myself are irreligious or you're another religious troll..  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by davien(m): 2:36am On Mar 11, 2015 |
goshap: underline the word brand. Why heathen. heathen as in "irreligious"....either way, "atheist" still works |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by davien(m): 2:22am On Mar 11, 2015 |
I think people should know that agnosticism still splits into theism and atheism.....I'm still an agnostic atheist, although I'm thinking of just branding myself a heathen sometimes... |