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Jameselias:
GOD is a force not a name, it's the underlining force behind all manifested realities(including all dieties) in all dimensions,

A force is quantifiable(measurable) and can be detected....How come "god" is not?..

pple should stop using the word GOD, here, in place of dieties, pls mention dieties by name and stop using the title GOD for them,

You are boisterous of your "god" but don't want other people of different faiths to call theirs "god" too?...
What stops you from becoming an extremist then since you can already claim your belief as the one who can call their deity "god"?

that which can be named is not GOD, and that which has form is not GOD,

So "elohim" isn't "god" then right?....what about "jehova"?

pls i'm considering quiting NL b/cos it's filled with bunch of ignoramus and dogmatic religionist's, u gain noting here just loads of headache,

Make any choice you feel like, so far it's not fundamentalism bourne....

SonofIssachar:

(The wisdom of a child)
Author Unknown

My son Gilbert was eight years old and had been in Cub Scouts only a short time. During one of his meetings he was handed a sheet of paper, a block of wood and four tires and told to return home and give all to "dad".

That was not an easy task for Gilbert to do. Dad was not receptive to doing things with his son. But Gilbert tried. Dad read the paper and scoffed at the idea of making a pine wood derby car with his young, eager son. The block of wood remained untouched as the weeks passed.

Finally, mom stepped in to see if I could figure this all out. The project began. Having no carpentry skills, I decided it would be best if I simply read the directions and let Gilbert do the work. And he did. I read aloud the measurements, the rules of what we could do and what we couldn't do.

Within days his block of wood was turning into a pinewood derby car. A little lopsided, but looking great (at least through the eyes of mom). Gilbert had not seen any of the other kids' cars and was feeling pretty proud of his "Blue Lightning", the pride that comes with knowing you did something on your own.

Then the big night came. With his blue pinewood derby in his hand and pride in his heart we headed to the big race. Once there my little one's pride turned to humility. Gilbert's car was obviously the only car made entirely on his own. All the other cars were a father-son partnership, with cool paint jobs and sleek body styles made for speed.

A few of the boys giggled as they looked at Gilbert's lopsided, wobbly, unattractive vehicle. To add to the humility, Gilbert was the only boy without a man at his side. A couple of the boys who were from single parent homes at least had an uncle or grandfather by their side, Gilbert had "mom".

As the race began it was done in elimination fashion. You kept racing as long as you were the winner. One by one the cars raced down the finely sanded ramp. Finally, it was between Gilbert and the sleekest, fastest looking car there. As the last race was about to begin, my wide eyed, shy eight year old ask if they could stop the race for a minute, because he wanted to pray. The race stopped.

Gilbert went to his knees clutching his funny looking block of wood between his hands. With a wrinkled brow he set to converse with his Father. He prayed in earnest for a very long minute and a half. Then he stood, smile on his face and announced, 'Okay, I am ready."

As the crowd cheered, a boy named Tommy stood with his father as their car sped down the ramp. Gilbert stood with his Father within his heart and watched his block of wood wobble down the ramp with surprisingly great speed and rushed over the finish line a fraction of a second before Tommy's car.

Gilbert leaped into the air with a loud "Thank You" as the crowd roared in approval. The Scout Master came up to Gilbert with microphone in hand and asked the obvious question, "So you prayed to win, huh, Gilbert?"

To which my young son answered, "Oh, no sir. That wouldn't be fair to ask God to help you beat someone else. I just asked Him to make it so I wouldn't cry when I lost."

Children seem to have a wisdom far beyond us. Gilbert didn't ask God to win the race, he didn't ask God to fix the outcome. Gilbert asked God to give him strength in the outcome. When Gilbert first saw the other cars he didn't cry out to God, "No fair, they had a father's help!". No, he went to his Father for strength. Perhaps we spend too much of our prayer time asking God to rig the race, to make us number one, or too much time asking God to remove us from the struggle, when we should be seeking God's strength to get through the struggle. "I can do everything through Him who gives me strength." Philippians 4:13

Gilbert's simple prayer spoke volumes to those present that night. He never doubted that God would indeed answer his request. He didn't pray to win, thus hurt someone else, he prayed that God supply the grace to lose with dignity. Gilbert, by his stopping the race to speak to his Father also showed the crowd that he wasn't there without a "dad", but His Father was most definitely there with him. Yes, Gilbert walked away a winner that night, with his Father at his side.

May we all learn to pray this way.

Meditation: Therefore it is also contained in the Scripture, “Behold, I lay in Zion A chief cornerstone, elect, precious, And he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame.” – 1 Peter 2:6

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Wow what a touching story, now can you tell that to the parents of death-bed stricken cancer patient children?
A prayer to "not cry" ?

How about a prayer to poop while you're at it?

I admire the morale of the story,I just don't get how a prayer does any function for the boy besides "make-believe"

A judge that judges a convicts unborn' as guilty is nonsensical.....The only condition that would or could grant one to believe such a judge is "just", is either Stockholm syndrome or other forms of dementia..

wirinet:
You are wrong on so many levels. Darkness is not merely the lack of photons, darkness is the inability of man's brains (through his eyes) to process a wider range of energy. What man calls light is the ability of man's brain to be snsitive to a very narrow range of energy (photons if you like).

A pitch dark night is not neccessarily dark to dogs, bats, sharks, and other animals.

I say darkness is an inability to sense certain range of energies.

If this is an attempt at a catchy come-back then you're wrong......in the sense that one can't say "inability to sense certain ranges of energy" because a photon is by definition a unit of energy(an electromagnetic one) and once one can't sense it, it becomes darkness thus reaffirming my statement and those animals that "see in the dark" merely have acute sense's for setting below the visible spectrum of light....so it's basically the same thing....no photons,no light....How can you even object to that

gatiano:
If i throw a block of brick up high in the sky, and you probably did not see it and i revealled to you that ia big block of brick is coming down, get out of the way! also telling you that i threw it up myself, It is your choice to either move away or get crushed.

Great analogy, the only difference is that the person who threw the brick already knows the product of it....and is now responding to those who got hit that "told you so"....analogous of those supposedly in "hell"..

GOD knew what he made in the genesis, and he knew it will self destruct based on the choices made by those that He inspired, He even gave us the signs. It is left to us to make a choice.

Well isn't this hypocritical.....everything good made by people you attribute to "god" but bad things you say are made by people it "inspired"?

he has revealled to you who the devils are, step away from their mentality or the evil doers so you may not be crushed with them. It is your choice, however, the warner must keep warning till a certain time.

So who warned the starving children of Africa of their fates?
Who warned your fore-fathers who never heard of Christianity?
Who also warned "the evil doers"(who are Christians) who burnt "witches" at the stakes?
I guess it's right to you to make something you know won't work and then push the blame on the fault

The aliens can not enter this atmosphere if GOD does not permit them. This Aliens are also inspired by GOD, it is in their freewill to make a choice of what to do with it, so the alien pass that knowledge of inspiration to us, it is our choice to do what we want with it.

First off that was an analogy on a probability....aliens are probable..."god/gods" aren't...because life is demonstrably resilient....nothing is known about "god/gods" because they are faith based and are mostly absent of demonstrable features...

ladon1:
The most stupid comment i ever heard someone made was that death gave birth to life. That is stupidity of the highest level. Same with someone saying darkness gave birth to light. Education can never help the spiritual condition of a natural man.

You know darkness is merely a lack of photons...

MrPresident:
'god' is an idea, more of an approximation, thus my opinion.

Correct....although for one to make an opinion on a hypothetical thing isn't always advisable.

gatiano:
I gave you 10000 naira, what you would do with it is of your concern. there is nothing of overriding in this case. We have freewill to choose for ourselves, this is the greatest gift that can be given to any person; with that, GOD raised by himself Prophets/Messengers, just 7 of them in this whole time, not the sweet mouthed pastors that makes GOD look like a liar. These Prophets taught what is agreeable and what is disagreeable, and to others, He reminded them of who they are, since they are deeply in self-forgetfulness. Thus Men can now be judged.
Inspiration is free from GOD, we just patent it (the white people), atleast you'd hear the blackman giving thanks to GOD first when receiving an award or something.

Now, where does inspiration comes from?

Question, is "god" not imposing his will on others through "revelations"?
Is giving someone a "revelation" not interfering with his own choices...
Take for example if we(as a species), were suddenly visited by aliens to give us knowledge that we shouldn't have known, wouldn't that be interference(regardless of its benefits)

Feraz:
Omoshiro i (Japanese way of saying interesting)!!! The mirror is another way of terraforming. It is supposed to release the 'green gases' on the planet to aid the development of life forms faster.

Nice,I had no idea...I thought all that was needed is a controlled global warming scenario..

Feraz:
How will that happen? How do you divert something that big to land on a planet or create a mirror (about three) the size of Asia (if not bigger) to heat the surface of the Martian planet?

First off small bodies like asteroids are easily moved by ligh beams(in space),and once directed towards the planet, the will of the planet pulls it into itself....that's all and I have no idea what you mean by mirror...

MrPresident the point I was trying to make by asking you that question is that you just threw a positive claim(like the average theist does) with no basis on how you got to that conclusions....
Now do I believe "god" is a product of the mind?
Yes, because "god" is a belief....beliefs are a state of mind inwhich one is convinced in their mind something is real....now when evidence or new information contradicts that and one refuses to correct that belief,one becomes delusional(by definition)

MrPresident:
'God' is a product of the human mind

How'd you figure that out?(make no mistake I am indeed an atheist, though I don't make positive claims about "god/gods" unless it's definitional and follows the belief a theist holds)

gatiano:
GOD can give you an inspiration of a very nice musical lyrics and note, It is God's will for man to use this music to sooth himself and comfort himself. It is man's choice to either use that music to inspirate others or by sexualizing the whole scene with a woman's behind.
Thus you have the choice of doing good or bad or nice or wicked.

So man can override "god's will" with his? doesn't that make man's will superior?...if a man can do that which is against "god's will" so effortlessly then is "god's word" not contingent on man's will?

gatiano:
All from inspiration oo. i am not for joke. anybody can use this inspiration for good, bad, profit or growth. e all have soul which was given the gift of freewill.

So who's will supersedes others,man's will or "god"?

So by following up on the mythology claimed one can also say that "god made evil,hiv/aids,still birth children,non viable embryos,etc" right?

Hiswordxray:
Do you claim to know what lie is more than me?
Here is the truth: you know God exist and you need Him but you are confused and need help.

Let me help you.

I demonstrably showed you were lying, can you do the same to show I believe in "god/gods"?

Feraz:
No boss. I am not talking about landing the human race on Mars. Heck, if they can send curiousity to Mars, then it is not far fetched to think that the technology to send man to Mars is close (I have even checked up on the technology - another type of Jet engine called scramjet that is being developed to take someone to another part of the world in about 1 hour say from Japan to London). I actually meant the technology for terraforming - that is what I meant that it is not yet feasible.

Thanks for the link.

Actually it is feasible and a lot of ideas are on the ground on how.....The problem again is willingness, cooperation, funding and time...
And terra-forming doesn't mean we'd make it 100% earth-like...we could start with delivering and diverting asteroids with water-ice to seed oceans and then start manipulating minerals that capture CO2(the oceans also will help in carbon sinking)...a lot is needed to be done....and it's very feasible...The problem is we think that a project should be considered "feasible" if it is done within our lifetimes and suiting our every desires and so if no funding is within it, then it's not feasible.

Hiswordxray:
Oh dear, how long will you continue to fight this?
Why do you prefer to remain confused?

Wow....it's either you just ignored your core belief trait(which is not lying) or you're aware but think it's okay if it's to spread your belief(afterall,pleasure used to be the bait you used,now it's lying)

Feraz:
The last I checked, they were still collecting data on Mars but I'll update myself. If you have any link, kindly drop it. If you say it is feasible, mind enlightening me on how it can be achieved?

"That extra wiggle room should let the space agency cope with scheduling and funding issues as they crop up in the future, NASA officials said in a teleconference with reporters"

http://m.space.com/26964-nasa-mega-rocket-2018-sls-test-launch.html

The mere fact that "god's word" can be reinterpreted to whatever a believer feels it should makes your belief nonsensical....if you can only follow what you feel it says not actually what's written then you're belief is hypocritical.

Feraz:
For the bolded, they are there but it just remains the technology to achieve such. It is not yet feasible. . .at least, not now.

It is quite feasible, have you checked nasa's projects....they already have developed the capability....project fundings merely postpone them.

Hiswordxray:
The truth is that every living thing know that there is a God who is the Creator of all. And I am standing on the truth.

Again, this is a lie....you're not just wrong, you are wrong on every level....first of all...most living things are not knowledgeable to the concept of "god/gods"(would you say bacteria knows what a "god/gods" is/are?)and a lot of human history did not regard a monotheistic "god"....mostly polytheistic "gods" were regarded...

But you are just a little confused, that is why you keep using words like "subjective".

Again....telling me what I don't acknowledge is lying and if you didn't understand what "subjective"means you should have just asked or googled it..

My friend what your heart is telling you is not subjective. That strange feeling you can't explain is not subjective. We all experience it but some have ignored it. God purposely put it there so that it could lead you back to Him.

There's a word for what you're doing here and it's a "straw man" fallacy....and that again is another form of dishonesty.....building an argument out of something that isn't what your opponent presented..

Do not ignore it, neither should you allow yourself get confused about it. Simply follow it and come to your Creator, He loves you.

You've somehow convinced yourself that I believe in specifically your kind of "god-religion" and that also is dishonesty....you are nothing but a liar....no two ways about it.

Hiswordxray:
I speak the truth and you know what I'm saying is true. But its alright to disagree with me but very soon the war in your heart will be over.

Again....pretending to "know" what I'm thinking is pure dishonesty....
If the tables were turned and I said "I know hiswordxray doesn't really believe in god", it'll be dishonest and that's anagolous to what you're doing now...

Hiswordxray:
Why are you looking for my attention?
I know in your heart you want to believe but you need more time.

It OK, God will help you through this and you would come out finding the answer and the satisfaction you so hunger for.

You've started again with your pretense to "know" what people think...
You've turned that into your signature trait...
I think you should know that you are lying by doing so,or to put it in a biblical manner.....violating your 9th commandment.

Another reaffirmation of faith......quote bible verses, tell a subjective view of the characters...is that all?

Kay17:
It is difficult and doubtful to accept a material proof of anti material phenomenon.

Metaphysics is very volatile, it is backgroundless, therefore material proofs of antimaterials is either false or impossible.

And highly oxymoronic..
where have you been kay17?

bamson94:
Pls fellow naira landers,can a very addicted masturbator ever be free from the addiction?

recent studies have revealed that masturbation is very healthy and that there is no such thing as "over-masturbation", it only becomes a problem when it interferes with you're daily routines and that even of itself is self-meditation against a burden.....so the question i'd ask you is this...do you have problems interacting in a social setting that makes you go off and masturbate them away?

Sheenor:

God is highly, loftily superior to man, but other than that, it is His literal lack of capacity to lie, to make a mistake, to cheat, to be unfaithful, to be unaware, to be deceived; His moral perfection and uprightness, that is His unquestionable quality. In essence, God is unquestionable, if I may say, because of His excellent character and faithfulness, not merely because of His excellent status.

We haven't even yet established that a "god" exists and you've already started listing out the characters you believe it to hold..

Now I would presume you take this qualities from the christian bible and so cherry-pick against the despicable deeds of the character portrayed(in the bible)...
So now tell us all why such a "lofty and superior" character would condone slavery(exodus 21)?

And if this character allegedly can't make a mistake what does your bible say in genesis 6;6?

"The LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled.

When one regrets an action,you take notice of the fact that a mistake has been made and that other ways might have yielded better results..

God almighty cannot be wrong and his judgments or actions cannot be questioned because of His greatness.

Again,the case of its existence has not been demonstrated nor evidential...so you can't draw tentative conclusions about "greatness", you can only set up a special bar(in your case,being unquestionable) for the character you believe in to sit on.

If "god" is so great why is it's doctrine a mere 2000 years old,and why borrow half of its theology(in this case,the old testament)from judaism that doesn't acknowledge his alleged son?

He his the highest authority in the world, everybody was accountable to him alone but he cannot be accountable to anybody.

So how can you give an account of greatness of your "god" if it cannot be accountable?
Wouldn't it be in itself a fallacy that one can account for "god" being good and ignore its despicable deeds( thus leading to special pleading)?

Pr0ton:
In Christianity, we are told that "the dead has nothing to do with the living."

We are even warned not to speak with the dead. Tough game there.

The book of mormon is what mormon later-day christian saints' follow...

Sheenor:
If for any contingent fact, the fact which explains it cannot be a necessary fact, otherwise would not be contingent, why is God's contingent will a necessary explanation of a contingent world?

a fact is by definition a fact, it cannot change by definition if it is really one...
And you are merely employing special pleading in the bolded, what is/are "god/gods" that makes them/it unquestionable?

Sheenor:
Why is it so easy to believe in the Big Bang theory, but so hard to believe in God? Or even God exist??

Because the big bang has evidence and is demonstrable(in the LHC) and "god" isn't.
Plus the theory isn't contingent on belief..."god" is contingent on belief.

tunji09:
Divine Exemption and promotion!
“I joined this commission in 2007by the leading of the holy spirit. In 2008, tagged, on eagle’s wing, I keyed into all the prophecies here and through that, God led me to the organization where I work presently. I joined the organization as a janitor supervisor, but in five years, I got different promotions by engaging in kingdom service.
Also, In January, I gave my Shiloh sacrifice and that same year, the bishop declared the blessing of the midst of the after which I got a double promotion and in July, I got an award-Long service award. However, in March 2014, 12 people were laid off in my office but God exempted me. After the retrenchment, the managing director called and addressed us and he said, “The reason others were retrenched was because the company was about to fold-up, but there are some of you that if we let you go, the company will fail. Those who are left are part of that group.” I give all the glory to the lord for making me part of the people that will save the company!----Ohini,S.

Join us this Sunday@ Covenant day of Exemption, March 8, 2015 @ Faith Tabernacle KM 10, Idiroko road, Ota Canaanland,Ota-Lagos. It’s your turn for change of story!
Service schedule: 6:00am, 7:50am, 9:40am, 11:30am.

Supernatural Deliverance!
“On Tuesday. 12th march 2013, while in my shop, I brought out the flier distributed in church the previous Sunday title “Covenant day of exemption.” While reading the testimonies behind the flier, two armed men suddenly approached me and said, Madam, we have arrested all your boys, get up gently, follow us and don’t make noise.
On our way, I held the flier and prayed. I said, God what you did for these brethren that I read their testimonies, you must surely do it for me. I’m a winner; I’m not permitted to die like this. On Sunday, my husband came to canaanland and told the bishop that I had been kidnapped. The Bishop shouted and said, No, it cannot happen!. He commanded my release and that was it. On Tuesday, 19th March, we were released and given money for transportation. I give all the glory to God!---Ugochukwu,M

Financial restoration & Miraculous Exemption!
“In 2013, while my sibling and I were in the university, my parent’s business experienced a setback. Miraculously, God changed their story and we experienced a turnaround and our school fees at covenant University were paid. Some week ago, the bishop instructed that we anoint our house and ourselves, morning and night; my family keyed into it. Few days ago, armed robbers came in multitude to our area. They combed the entire area, robbed all 28 houses, but our house was exempted. Praise the lord!”----Ebieroma,E.

Delivered from kidnappers!
“I joined this commission in 1997. On Saturday, August 23, 2014, my daughter who is a winner’s satellite fellowship (WSF) minister left home for fellowship. On her way, she was kidnapped! Suddenly, she found herself locked in a room and didn’t know how she got there. While in that room, she prayed and sang praises to God. That night, The God of this commission intervened and she heard the kidnappers shouting, “Fire! Fire! ” The entire house was set ablaze and the kidnappers began to beg her saying, we are really sorry for bringing you to this place.
By 5a.m the next morning (Sunday), she was escorted to the road and given N500 for transport. The first bus she saw was heading towards canaanland; so, she boarded the vehicle and attended the Sunday service. I give God all the glory for delivering her!”….Nwokocha, N

Supernatural promotion!
“I joined this commission fully in 2013. Before them, I was heavily indebted- a situation where I had to borrow to pay my debt. I was given a query and I had previously received one, which meant a sack letter was in view. I called my bosses and they said there was nothing they can do. A colleague from the head office told me he had resigned to avoid a sack, because of the same query, I came here, anointed the letter and I said, “I bury you this query. God of this commission, because of me let there be a reversal of this situation. “Behold, I got to the office the next day and the human resource manager sent a mail of final warning. In December, while they lay off staff, I was promoted! I give all the glory to God!”---shofowora, O

How about a testimony that gives one things that aren't accessible to everyone...like a solution to the goldbach conjecture or aids,is money all "god" can give?