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AgentOfAllah:
I'm very sorry you think I'm insulting you. I made what I believed -still believe - to be a very fair assessment of your argument. It's stupid because you clearly mistook atheism for pantheism even when I gave you the exact definition of atheism from which your argument should proceed.

Now do you believe he's a troll...

You all keep seeing "heaven and hell", and yet no new knowledge that aides humanity has been gotten...

Amhappy:
The theory that man started as a cell in the sea or the one that chimpanzee will soon evolve into man. A scientific law is the undisputable fact and evolution is not a law yet even in the world of science.

You are mixing abiogenesis to evolution....micro-fossils indicate evolution didn't automatically start with life until a form of horizontal gene transfer was developed in distinct emergent daughter populations of eucharya,archea,etc

AgentOfAllah:
His dim wittedness is uncannily analogous to that of a troll.

I think he really is one...he disregards rebuttals that clearly refuted his claim with passive replies like "I don't get it"..."irrelevant"..
He has created his own mental world where everyone that doesn't agree with him has been wrong from the start....

FOLYKAZE:
Yawn.

Indifferent...

mabeni:
thats not true man. He Spared me in a fatal accident and HE even provides when i dont ask. Bt am just having dificulty working for him d way i want. HE IS MERCILFUL ND DOESNT KILL.

I guess by your logic, it also spared this atheist to keep being an atheist...

AgentOfAllah, analyze FOLYKAZE's comments and you'll notice he's trolling....he's been trolling from the start....take a good look

I still dont get it.

Irrelevant opinion; I suppose not take it on with you any longer.

He "doesn't get it", and yet considers your rebuttal an "irrelevant opinion"?

Alexcassy:
keep deceiving yourself. the fact that you have not seen me before does that mean that I don't exist? do you know who I am? or anything about me? I don't have to force you to believe what I know and beside I am learning about science and ur so called scientists are also learning. five years ago there was no such thing as the god particle but its been found now. don't compare things of the spirit with things of the physical I can assure they are eons separated from each other and I should know from experience.

We don't have to see you to conclude you don't exist...
Science actually permits us to detect things our senses cannot....so how does a faith based belief even stand a chance of scientific and/or logical scrutiny?..
For one we know for a fact that someone/something has tot be behind an electronic device to grant you access to the internet...
And you either have no or little understanding of how science works....the "god" particle was still theorized 5 years ago and all it needed was a testable hypothesis to confirm it....
You, like most of the ancients....mask your ignorance with "superstition"...that something is unknown is a golden ticket to label it "supernatural", and you've taken this to justify your beliefs....

AgentOfAllah:
FOLYKAZE Logic 101

Formal statement: Irrelevant opinions may be resorted to when establishing a logical truth.

Structure: {insert irrelevant opinion}, {insert consequential logical truth}

EXAMPLE 1: {To the Yoruba spiritualists, every individual is a god}, {so this creates flaws in the atheist arguments}.
EXAMPLE 2: {To me, FOLYKAZE is a pathological mo.ron}, {so this creates flaws in whatever defence he may invoke to proved me wrong}

I'm sure you can think of other examples.

That is what religion does....retards minds on every level...

Why do people think agnosticism is some sort of middle ground? it still encompasses theism and atheism..

Isn't it high time a mandatory psychiatric evaluation is carried out on all institutional education staffs?! and perhaps an end to corporal punishment in public schools...

I mean some people are just not mentally stable enough to be around children....

Yeah...people have enough faith to blow themselves up to see heaven and also trample on everyone eles's rights...

Writing the entire chapter won't change what's already there....Thugnificent

Thugnificent:
As usual by atheists quoting out of context Leviticus 14:2 This shall be the law of the leper in the day of his cleansing: He shall be brought unto the priest: 14:3 And the priest shall go forth out of the camp; and the priest shall look, and, behold, if the plague of leprosy be healed in the leper; 14:4 Then shall the priest command to take for him that is to be cleansed two birds alive and clean, and cedar wood, and scarlet, and hyssop: 14:5 And the priest shall command that one of the birds be killed in an earthen vessel over running water: 14:6 As for the living bird, he shall take it, and the cedar wood, and the scarlet, and the hyssop, and shall dip them and the living bird in the blood of the bird that was killed over the running water: 14:7 And he shall sprinkle upon him that is to be cleansed from the leprosy seven times, and shall pronounce him clean, and shall let the living bird loose into the open field. 14:8 And he that is to be cleansed shall wash his clothes, and shave off all his hair, and wash himself in water, that he may be clean: and after that he shall come into the camp, and shall tarry abroad out of his tent seven days.

Out of context?

Leviticus 14;7
He is to sprinkle the blood seven times on the person with the infectious skin disease and then pronounce him clean. Then he is to release the live bird into the open fields.

Apparently the fools that wrote the "bible" never did....

So how does one define a "christian" when Christianity has over 40,000 denominations?....

Thugnificent:
You must have been reading the bible upside down. The bible NEVER said that birds blood could cure leprosy but it was a procedure used after the person must have been cleansed more like a sacrifice done by the priest to pronounce the person clean and to be allowed into the camp.

Apparently you're the one who doesn't know your bible....perhaps you need to read the verse below...

Leviticus 14;7
He is to sprinkle the blood seven times on the person with the infectious skin disease and then pronounce him clean. Then he is to release the live bird into the open fields.

Next thing you know you'll claim the bible doesn't say you can trample on stars...

K9blunt:
but i thought he claims to be a GOD an dthat he knows the begginning and the end of things in life..... didnt he think these science knowledge will be important in time to come as now?

lol, birds blood'apparently doesn't cure leprosy anymore as it did allegedly in the bible...

Nigerians talking about jewish myths as though it were theirs, such a pity...

Liveair:
Bible scholars only.
If Jesus was faultless, debunk these:

1. Read John 7:8-10. Jesus lied to his siblings
that he wasn't going for the trip as his time had
not come, yet he sneaks out and goes after they
leave him.
2. Read Mattew 16:28. He assured his listeners
that some of them would still be alive when he
comes as king. I guess they are still alive,
waiting for his return as king, after some 2000+ years.

Theists reinterpret anything that doesn't feel right in the bible...

UyiIredia:
1) Atheism isn't a religion

2) It's only religious to the extent that there are atheist organizations, creeds and common beliefs.

3) Not all atheists are communists, and many don't agree with Karl Marx's views.

I disagree with your #2, would you say humanism becomes a religion when there are "organizations, creeds and common beliefs"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUzExsAJLmI

An undeniable prognosis...

Wouldn't it be nice to point out that those "heresies" are predating versions of the same religion and some were removed by popular opinion to compile the bible?
And why is young earth creationism not in that list?

Joshthefirst:
Volition is the only reason that can account for something like our universe existing.

And you came up with that conclusion how? How does one recognize an act of volition?

starlingleanets:
u were saying smthng nd want you to explain more

Okay on what area exactly?... How your life doesn't change reality? if it's that you just need to observe that yourself..
Being brilliant doesn't mean you'll pass exams(especially in Nigeria)...

Joshthefirst:
Not in this instance. Here I purport a personality behind energy.

why? and how does this logically follow?

starlingleanets:
wider a little

what do you mean?

Joshthefirst:
Sorry, but no one ever claims the source is abstract. Let me put forward at least one parameter to qualify the uncaused cause: Energy. The Personality of origin possesses infinite energy. Omnipotence.(wrt our universe of course).

You do realise that infinite energy equals infinite entropy/disorder right?

starlingleanets:
Life is not getting pleasant for me, it's frustrating ,Yea depressing nd more storming. I'm passing through a spiritual storm right now...a strong one.
When I gave my life to Christ God gave me a gift of singing -can write and compose songs nd sing as well with varied pitch.Before the bestower of that gift I had a dream where someone has stood beside me and saying to me "go and catch fish" and I went to do so.
Thus I know the gift is given to me for an arduous task that need to be completed. As of now I have written more than 120 spiritual songs. I had look forward to starting the music group once I gain admission into University. As that will give me more access to gifted brethrens to fulfil the commission God has chosen us for.
I do feel the task resting on my heart calling to be done with urgency.
Beforehand I'm a Brilliant student and that is no boasting it's Just a simple truth. People do wonder why I have not gain admission despite my brilliancy. I completed my secondary education in 2012 and since then I have been home getting older every seconds. My mate have gain admission and they do wonder why their brilliant friend has not gain admission. What may have been the cause?
I registered for this ongoing JAMB and I believe hardwork is the only ladder to success. Thus, I have no explanation for laziness. And Lord knows I'm not lazy with the brain He gave me. I sat for my exam today only to receive a text stating I had a score of 239 far lower than what I put in there.
This is, of course, I know it's good for some but definitely not for me. All days in the Library reading not for my own sake but for the sake of the helpless. Being a Doc I believe I stand a chance to help many thus,the reason for my effort to accomplish this.
But maybe I'm wrong,maybe education won't be the way I will get to help people. Maybe the Lord is angry with me for procrastinating the mission He gave me to accomplish. For I can see as much as any Christian will do that this,is more a spiritual issue. No one can accuse me not even Satan for God himself declare me guiltless.
That been that, I ask is the Lord angry with me? ,is all these happening to make me note something? I can't Just understand why!!
Brethrens look into my words and give your Spiritual insight. I'm, ready to answer any question if it can help to clarify things.

"god" nor your brilliancy are responsible for anything bad done to you(excluding corporal punishments and indoctrination)....because you're a theist and/or an intellectual doesn't mean bad things won't happen to you..

Wrong post

laniyi07:
I am just trying to be objective really cos this is the first time I am hearing of gilgamesh and the rest. i wanted you to convince me and you have not sir(u can try again) and from your comments I tried to understand your believe system because we all have wat we believe in like u cited geology.



so lemme ask again. what do u believe in?

I was not forwarding a claim...So no convincing needed to be done....all you had to do was read and follow up on the citations, that was it....
Either you don't know what/who bears the "burden of proof" in an argument and can't tell the difference between a citation and a claim...

johnydon22:
a simple google search would have helped you but no you prefer blind belief of jewish mythology..

Wikipedia encyclopedia [b] Origins
See also: Panbabylonism
The Mesopotamian Epic of Gilgamesh, composed about 2500 BC, contains
a flood story almost exactly the same as the Noah story in the Pentateuch,
with a few variations such as the number of days of the deluge, the order
of the birds, and the name of the mountain on which the ark rests. The
flood story in Genesis 6–8 matches the Gilgamesh flood myth so closely
that "few doubt that [it] derives from a Mesopotamian account." [10] What
is particularly noticeable is the way the Genesis flood story follows the
Gilgamesh flood tale "point by point and in the same order", even when the
story permits other alternatives. [11]
The earliest written flood myth is found in the Mesopotamian Epic of
Atrahasis and Epic of Gilgamesh texts. "These mythologies are the source
of such features of the biblical Flood story as the building and provisioning
of the ark, its flotation, and the subsidence of the waters, as well as the
part played by the human protagonist." [12] The Encyclopedia Judaica
adds that there is a strong suggestion that[/b]

try and research more...

and below is a picture of the explanation as given by the New Community Bible ..

He's the "if I don't believe it, it's not true" category...