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ileobatojo: Pastors have a moral responsibility to their congregation and it is her spirit and soul he is destroying by luring her to his den and abusing his authority to get her in his bed, manipulating her into keeping it quiet and deceiving her with fake spiritual priciples (a higher level of grace) to make it seem like what is wrong is right.

And a 25yr old was a dunce in all these or hypnotized to follow the man?

Which authority did he use to get her in bed? was he using a magic wand?

seek some sort of remedy to a wrong I believed had been done me.

What wrong has been done to her, Can anyone state it?

I told him I realized what happened between Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo and I was wrong and not just that I felt abused and manipulated.

How was she abused? what kind of abuse was she subjected to.

All I wanted was to meet with him and have him accept that he misled me

So its possible to mislead a 25yr old girl that when a nakeed woman and man meet in a hotel kiss, remove their clothes and put their peniss in vagina it would result in Sex?

ileobatojo: What right do you have to blame corrupt leaders for looting? What right do you have to blame murderers for murdering? Rapists for raping? Are they answerable to you?

Only their parents have a right to question them in the issue of how well they were raised or otherwise.

*And before some dunce comes to say I am comparing sex to looting or murdering or raping, I am not. I'm talking about the concept of accountability to the people that your actions affect.*

Corrupt leaders have a responsibility to me because I am a citizen of the country and its my money they are looting.

Murderers violated the law of the land which states clearly that they should be prosecuted for killing another person

Rapi1sts violently without consent had sex with another person, violates the law and deserve to be prosecuted

Now kindly draw a parallel with a case of consensual sex between two adults and any of the instances you raised

ileobatojo: She's not blaming the man for her actions, she's blaming the man for his actions.

And what right does she have to blame the man for what he did? Is the man answerable to her?

Only the mans wife has any right to question him on issues of fidelity or otherwise

coogar: at what stage in a woman's life does she take responsibility for her actions?

Are you surprised?

When a woman hits a man its because the man has done something to annoy her and deserves it.

When a woman kills a man, Its pardonable because women are not violent creatures.

When a woman gets fat or skinny its because she is trying to impress the men who talked her down

When a woman has consensual sexx its because she was abused by the man

stillwater: I believe most of us are Christians here, if you are not well, have a kiss . The bible is quite clear on sex outside marriage. It's not about if it's consensual or not. It's not about if Ese was stu..pid enough to fall. That is for the secular courts to deliberate on. I believe these are mere side attractions to the main issue that the Christian faith is against. A pastor has been accused of committing adultery, one of the things you shouldn't do in the Ten Commandments. What Christians should be concerned about is if he did it or not and not if it's consensual or not. That is what concerns people like me. And if he calls himself a good Christian he will not lie.

The bible said it then let the Bible or the author of the bible Which is God judge.

Or is Ese helping the Bible determine who a sinner is?

If anyone has flouted a biblical law, then wait for the maker of the law to punish him or her

ileobatojo: Bullshit! Even the most well trained person would still be at risk of falling for the wiles of someone they are attracted to if all things align together at the right place and time.

Youre attracted to someone, You end up fulfilling your fantasy yet would blame the man for your actions.

Like I ask when would ppl start taking responsibilities for themselves

ileobatojo: How does the fact that she's attracted to him preclude any form of abuse?

There was no sex*ual attack, molestation or abuse, she said so herself.

So whats she crying about? She lusted after the man and she had CONSENSUAL sexx with him So whats the sob story, abuse and noise all about

ileobatojo: Spot on!

Bottom line is, if your daughter comes and says she wants to join the pastoral care unit at COZA, you now know that the next step is to bring out a cane and flog her....Unless you are Dayokanu or Coogar in which case you will not only allow her join but will also sign a parental consent to allow the pastor to f*#@ her whenever he feels the urge to, as long as it is consensual.

For the rest of the people; hide yo' wives, hide yo' daughters, hide yo' girlfriends! Hide yo' mistresses!

If I have a 25yr old daughter who claims she wasnt rapped or drugged and used her legs to walk to an "abuser" 7 days straight to get bleeped later open a blog to share whatever story then i would order a DNA straight for her extreme stupidity must have come from someone else.

In the world one proposition and the other agree, Thats whats called consensual sex. And no law has been broken anywhere when 2 adults have sexx

coogar: torres would still cop more minutes than the others....

And still record a league goal in 6 months as is the case with Torres in EPL 2013 calendar yr

A 50m player is now 3rd in hierarchy

So it took Chelsea management 3 yrs to realize they signed a failure in Fernandud

StarBoard: Let UEFA reduce the maximum number of teams from a particular country to 3 and let's see how Arsenal will qualify.
But seriously, how are Arsenal top seeds?

Because of the fall of teams like Juventus, Liverpool, Inter and Lyon.

Even teams like Porto and Benfica make it into pot 1

If teams like Juve, AC Milan, Dortmund and PSG continue to do well while Arsenal remain in their current state then its only a matter of time

Nothing to worry about, Arsenal have enough depth to cover

This is a real indictment on 50m Fernandud Torres.

Since he was bought another 4 strikers have been added. This shows how much faith all the previous Chelsea coaches and management have in him.

coogar: united would cop 12 points easily in these fixtures. we have a new manager who takes team selection seriously unlike fergie.

Let the group happen first and see how Simeone, Klopp and Benitez rub Gollums face in the mud

Man Utd Athletico Madrid, Dortmund, Napoli.

That would be the verdict

folahann: Who's that his stooge again? A 40sec question pls. I need an answer within 40seconds

WHats this one saying. A dude whose life ambition is to sleep with Fabregas

aysometin: This is the part that is debatable.
Walking away from the Pastor or staying to do the deed does not mean you are not a victim of manipulation.
What you can question is her moral standing which she herself mentioned is not so great.

Theres no debate about that.

How can you say a Pastor told you to strip nakeed and have sexx yet you didnt know it was wrong? How can anyone be manipulated to have sexx with another person a Pastor
She simply has been fantasying about doing the Pastor the way several females in Christ embassy see Pastor Chris as a sex symbol and would go all the way if given the slightest opportunity.

And returning for 7 good days for a repeat? NIGGA please. She was hoping to be the main squeeze of the pastor but was dissapointed that the man has better fishes to fry

baby_123: I know i have given you something to hold unto. However, let us stick to topic. Yes, at 21, i did things because i was still coming into myself. I hold myself responsible but to a certain extent. Youthful exhuberance played a big role. Do i regret it, no. As a 55yr old, negro please. . Let us get back to the pastor.

If at 21 you were still coming to yourself and innocent of all actions you might have taken So at what age did you finally get into yourself or What age does a human finally starts taking 100% responsibilities for his/her actions

baby_123: If adeboye was accused of such, i can bet you that he would come out and say something. Otherwise, he will lose his respect and his church. Some professions come with certain expectations and requirements. If you cannot measure up, you find something else to do. Like sell garri or pure water. Who cares about what you do with Remi Tinubu IS she a pastor? She is a Senator and if her ward want an explanation she has to give it

Every Pastor at one time or the other has been accused of one sex scandal or the other by some idle minds. How many of them have come out to deny any?

Just go to google and search "Any pastor name + sex scandal and see the reults. And also check how many of these Pastors have denied or affirmed it

E.g
TB JOSHUA, FOUR OTHER PASTORS FINGERED IN SEX WITH TEENAGE GIRLS SCANDAL
http://rainbowsky-rainbowsky..com/2013/06/tb-joshua-four-other-pastors-fingered.html


http://www.modernghana.com/news/216383/1/christ-embassy-concealed-sex-scandal-exposed-part-.html

S-C-A-N-D-A-L : Pastor Okotie is Sleeping with My Woman – Security Guard

http://www.9jamg.com/2013/02/s-c-n-d-l-pastor-okotie-is-sleeping.html

baby_123: Dayo, at 21, were you not easily manipulated? Yes, at 18 a person is an adult. But you are still quite young and impressionable. It takes certain circumstances to happen in your life and time before you can truly weigh the consequences of your actions.

So at 21 youre easily manipulated and cant be held responsible according to you when the law says otherwise.

So according to you at what age does one fully start to take responsibility for his or her action?

Because we can also say a 35yr old can be easily manipulated by a 50yr old? a 45yr old can be easily manipulated by a 55yr old and so on

baby_123: How is she answerable to the congregation? Is she a pastor?

She has said her part, am sure if it was untrue the pastor will be eager to clear his name. Why is he hesitating? ODes he think people will forget? He has lost respect already.

So you think the pastor is not busy or would waste his time with this tramp?

So if you claim Adeboye sleptt with you, You think Adeboye would come out and start debunking every asinine allegations?

Or If I say na me disvirgin patience, and Remi Tinubu, You think they would hold press conference to debunk or confirm my story?

baby_123: hahaha. So Dayo, answer truthfully. Can you truly hold yourself responsible for what you did at 21. Look back and think on all the dumb and stu*pid things you did at that age. You know you were young and easily manipulated. .

If you killed someone at 18 you are eligible for death. So calling any 21 an infant is not wise.

Im sure when you are 70 you would say you shouldnt be responsible for decisions you took at 35yrs because you were easily manipulated.

The law recognize anyone over 18 as an adult and free to make decisions, get married, vote, Go to war and do anything.

I did silly things at 21 and I did at 30, I might also do silly things at 43. So when would i start taking responsibilities for silly things I did? at 80?

baby_123: You can never say what you will do at any point in time. Especially when you are young and impressionable. The pastor is handsome, has power and money. Please, have you ever heard of the pastor who convinced his whole church to committ suicide? Ever even heard of Manson? Who was not a church leader sef but a cult leader, and led all the people under his influence to kill and comit other atrocities. You underestimate the power of "power". Good little rich girls committing murder for Charles manson, or committing suicide for the pastor. Now tell me how Ese's case is even that serious

How can you expect a pastor to impart biblical knowledge without holding him to a certain expectation as regards to morality which the bible preaches. Morality and responsibility of the Shepard to his flock. But this Shepard was caught sharing his flock with the wolf. hmmm. No MAN, should wear the toga of pastor if the dont want to accept the responsibility of their office.

Whats young and impressionable about a girl in her twenties? She is an adult in any culture and has a mind of her own

An adult has willing sex but we choose to blame the other partner?

Religion is no ones business but between me and God as long as I dont flout basic rules of the land.

I can form a sect and tell people "God" told me we should all start wearing Ankara. If you follow me and we didnt flout any law of the land then No wrong has been done.

Its baffling how a twenty five yr old girl can have consensual willing 7 days straight sex and still find it possible to blame it on the Pastor. She must be a retardd

Let her take him to any court.

Baby_123, BTW I Pastor Dayokanu according to Gods word Says that you need to sleep with coogar for 7 days. After the act open a blog and blame me for making you have consensual sex.

baby_123: hmmmm. What is your other name. You sound familiar. . phew, see comment abeg. It is all the girls fault abi? Pastor who has more responsibility to his church and church members. Who went to London with their tithes and lodged in a pent house suite to take a church member to a new state of grace nko. Pent house suite for 7 days is not moi moi. married pastor for that matter. Who should even be held to a higher level of responsibility. Na wa oo. Guys sha. See how you guys turned this on the girl. The man was married, a pastor, a father and much older than Ese. He should have known better. To whom much is given much is expected. And this pastor has been given much. The trust and faith of his congregation

The Pastor has an allowance and he can spend it anyhow he chooses. If the church suspects him of embezzlement let them take up that case of stealing their money. Because your boss gave you money doesnt mean he can dictate how you spend it.

Married? Then he only has to answer to his wife and no one. If the wife is Okay with it then whats anyones business?.

Father? means what? Fathers cant Bleep?

Much older? Thats no point. 2 consenting adults can have sexx with one another even if one is 100yrs and the other is 21yrs

baby_123: What is a pastor doing asking a church member to order any drink, sit on his laps and go to a new level of grace. Dont you expect more of your pastor? I will even like to ask you Dayo. What are your expectations of your pastor. What will you expect from him as a so called "man of God".

So baby_123 answer me if your Pastor asks you to come to his hotel, Order a drink, sit on his laps, remove his clothes, remove yours and do the act You would obey all those because ? If your answer is YES, Then I need to be a Pastor because women would just open their skirt for you once you say it.

And on top of it go for repeat 7 straight DAYS. Thats a girl who wants to Bleep the Pastor right there.

What are my expectation of a Pastor? to impart knowledge in biblical issues SIMPLE. I wont hold any Pastor responsible for my Agroo

Would I kill my child because Pastor says so? If you walk nakeed round the market because Pastor says so do you think the Pastor would be arrested for indicent exposure or you that carried out the act

OP

Some Women never respect good guys you need a tinge of badness in you.

All those dinners, buy stuff, begging and talking needs to stop first thing get home and kick her out immediately call her family to come and move her

And starting getting your own play too outside

biolabee: Yes it is not the conventional workplace authority
But spiritual authority In certain instances can be very powerful if not more

He who has the heart rules the man

This is not just 2 adults but a spiritual overload n a normal woman... abuse

I dont think he will r.ape her if she had refused

So if your Pastor tells you to walk nakeed round the market and you do, You'll come back to blame his Spiritual overlord?

You remove your clothes Bleep the guy wella and return 7 different times and you say the man was abusing authority? which authority? who gave him authority? even your spouse cant command you to do what youre not comfortable with

ileobatojo: Dats all.

SO she is another Kemi Olunloyo, Afrocandy, Beverly Osu, wanabee.

Maybe Obesere would invite her to his new Fuji videos to come display what she has

ileobatojo: I see no reason for her to produce evidence till there is a denial. Why play her last card first?

And when the Pastor refuses to answer her? Or just give a bland answer like " Shes an agent of the devil sent to destroy the church"

Let her present the sex tapes