₦airaland Forum

You can see the highlights here

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/germany-turkey-7139866/

Toyin how have you been.

The Bayern crew got on the field today and schooled Turkey with Klose getting a brace and Muller, Lahm, Kroos, Badstuber giving a good account of themselves

Yes yes yes

jason12345:
they are both bad and corrupt but ibb legalised it in the first place

OBJ stole 2.8bn way back in 1979 before IBB smelt power

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=526813.msg6904904#msg6904904 date=1286575536]* can there be any corruption legacy more than[b] ''419''
*militancy have been around since the days of Isaac Boro,denocracy on made them more visible.
*can there be any political intimidation than the proscription of political parties and activities under IBB regime ? Ask NADECO members for further clarification
*can there be any riot than the june 12 riot in the history of nigeria and protest against IBB structural adjustment programme ?
*can there be anything worse than annulling the best election in Nigeria ?[/quote]Has there been any single human who swallowed $16b?

We never heard of kidnapping of expatriate and MEND during any regime apart from OBJ.

NADECO was formed during Abacha Get your facts right.  "The National Democratic Coalition (NADECO) was formed on May 15, 1994 "

Count the number of dead people in June 12 and compare them to those killed in riots during OBJ regime.

FYI Ali Mongo was the begining of riots in Post Independence Nigeria where OBJ supervised the killing of students in ABU Zaria and UNIFE.

Can there be anything worst than conducting the WORST election in the History of Human race?

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=526813.msg6904872#msg6904872 date=1286574968]Wow. . .you guys should tune to NTA,obj is in Jonathan's entourage to plateau state and people are hailing him. IBB would have been stoned to death by the crowd if he was the one.[/quote]How do you know people are hailing OBJ and not Jonathan? How long does it take to get rented crowd? Going by the way people are hailing Alao Akala in his rally, We can assume he is the second coming of Awolowo. Did you see the Atiku rallies in 2007? Saraki even Bafarawa rallies?

damas11111:
I will always rate OBJ as the worse of the two. In fact the worst president in the history of Nigeria.
OBJ was a civilian president and he was still able to commit all those atrocities he committed. He almost succeeded in manipulating the constitution to continue as a "life president". He levelled a whole community (Odi). His human right record was nothing to write home about as he used the dreaded EFCC to silence the real enemies and perceived ones. He succeeded in supervising the murder of Bola Ige, the then minister of Justice of the federation (now Bola Ige was surely a bigger fish than Dele Giwa) and could not find the killer.

In short there are many reasons to know that IBB remains a lesser evil than OBJ. Had OBJ ruled as a military president (forget his stooge status when he completed Muritala's tenure. He was not ready then and besides he still managed to do some terrible things like killing Funmilayo Ransome Kuti and some students of the then University of Ife ).

I am even too tired to write some of his demonic acts. OBJ & IBB are evil but while OBJ had an opportunity to write his name in gold he instead took Naija backward for 8 years. He is a BAS-TARD.

I do not like IBB but I hate and loathe OBJ.

Supported 100%

The legacies OBJ are remembered for are

Unrivalled corruption.
Advent of Militant groups
Political killings en masse
Upsurge in riots
Worst Election
Empowering thugs like Adedibu and Ngige

Some people believe you dont need to tell women the whole truth cos in most cases cant handle the truth

The name Omarosa doesnt sound Yoruba, Thanks for the boobs picture anyway

He promulgated the Land USe act to forcefully take land from people and Use it for his own Ota farms

^^ Dem dey spoil my name o.

I no dey do anything. As i dey so My body full die. Infact na full tank I dey

chaircover:
chei

I'm going to bed . . . . .my eyes are seeing what I shouldn't be seeing so they are better off closed

What is your eyes "SAWING" Dont forget my request o

We need a couple for the practicalisation.

I cant do it by myself. So if you would join, It would be a good learning process for the kids

^^ Lets practicalize it and see if its good or not

IBB and OBJ I cant see much of a difference.

Both are terrible. No one is better. What is the difference between someone who stole 12b and someone who stole 16b.

OBJ started his own stealing in 1979 with the 2.8b and he graduated to the monster he is today

Dig it out I am waiting.

See as dem they spoil show for me. No wonder I am still single. All the eligible spinsters believe I am married

The best thing is to keep quiet and play the ignore and siddon look card

Way to go

Me nko,

I am not taken o. Which part of the world is your girlfriend in

Is it proper to have sex in the presence of the kids?

Another Wale Adenuga production

We are all but pencils in the hand of the maker

Hmmm

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=526813.msg6903938#msg6903938 date=1286563466]the second republic elecion is worse than obj's.there's nothing worse than cancelling a good election.
he also killed mamman vatsa,dele giwa,gloria okon[/quote]List the prominent people killed by IBB and lets put them side by side with OBJ's

seanet02:
ITS BETTER THAN ANNULLING THE BEST ELECTION

Conducting the worst election is better than Anulling the best Election? According to whom?

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=526813.msg6904029#msg6904029 date=1286564668]I wish Gani Fawehinmi was alive cuz he would have answered this question properly.Ibb sent him to jail countless times for challenging his regime[/quote]I wish Fela Kuti was alive because he would have answered this question appropriately. OBJ sent him to jail numerous times and Killed him mom

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=526813.msg6903905#msg6903905 date=1286563027]More like a fallacy to me ![/quote]Conducting the worst election in Nigeria is a fallacy?

^^^IBB annulled the best election in Nigeria, How is that different from OBj conducting the worst election in Nigeria?

55%. Dont forget I mentioned OBJ had serious conflicts of interests.

But there was relatively better security, the economy moved forward, foreign investors indicated interest, we got a huge chunk of our debts cancelled, and saved a huge portion of our earnings. Abeg give OBJ some credit- he put some serious reforms in place, and obviously, successive Presidents have hardly built on these.

Which security? Which regime has the highest number of kidnap from MEND? Can you count the number of riots in the North, Sagamu, Nsukka, Miss world roiot, Shariah riot, Cartoon riots? Bola Ige, Dikibo, Funsho Williams, harry marshals etc the number of people killed during OBJ's regime cant be counted and I noticed it reduced the moment he left power. Infact OBJ killed more people than IBB a military ruler

How many political killings have we had since 2007.

IBB also put some reforms in place. The banking deregulation that brought about the likes of Zenith, GTB Oceanic etc.

My biggest problem with him was his conflict of interests- selectively pursuing corrupt leaders, not taking the educational system seriously while setting up his private univ, And you can't exactly pin the murder of Bola Ige on OBJ- what would have been his motive??

I can't point at any IBB achievements in his 8 years. Clearly, he's involved in Dele Giwa death, saddled us with enormous debt, devalued our currency, frittered $12bb, made corruption official, crippled the manufacturing sector and cancelled the June 12 elections.

How can you say a whole Minister of Justice was killed under him and nothing was found Yet you say we cant pin it on OBJ yet you can pin a Journalist death on IBB? What would have been IBB's motive with a mere journalist.
OBJ swallowed $16bn, The corruption in OBJ's regime can not be rivalled anywhere in the history of Nigeria. Under OBJ, I believe someone like Ibori alone stole all what IBB did in 8yrs. Not to mention Bode George etc

Cancelled the freest elction conducted? OBJ actually conducted the worst election in human history

Aigbofa:
May I respectfully ask you to go back and read about Babangidas endless transition program? There is probably none like that in the history of political transition!!! And it all ended in annulment. Frankly, he should be in jail.

Go back and read about IBB transition?

LOL Epic LOL. Is there anything you want to know about IBB's transition? I can tell you from Day 1

Can this match the somersaults and manoueverings during the third term agenda?

^^ 55% for a man who stole $16b on power projects, Killed his own attorney General, Leveled Odi and Zaki Biam.

Ran all our refineries to the ground.

Stole 2.8b Naira in 1978, Killed Felas mother.

Can you list IBB bad deeds and i would match it with OBJ's bad deeds

Why cant they just jail her for 18minutes