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Kanu won BBC player twice, won CAF twice

Won CL once, WOn the league, Won FA cup won Olympic Gold won many things

Kanu doesnt need to talk his medals talk for him

Let Okocha go and bring the medals he won at PSG, Frankfurt, Fenerbahce and Bolton

Go and check.
In the last 10 years, the English teams have performed better on average than the German teams.

To add to that, lest we forget, EPL sends its 4 top teams to EPL, Bundesliga send its top 3 and the 4th goes to UEFA Cup, yet the EPL teams still performed better.

There is no need to argue this further

In the last 10 seasons

Dortmund and Bremen have played the UEFA cup final, Fulham and Middlesborough have done the same.

UEFA cup Semi final appearances, BL have done way better than EPL 

[/quote][quote]You said it yourself that JJ took shyt players to great achievements.

YOU KNOW Kanu is not capable of that feat if put in the same position.

Hence JJ is better. Game over!

Abeg which great achievement did Jayjay take PSG, Frankfurt, Bolton to?

So now, who is better between Kanu and Yekini? It is clear it is Yekini. So where do you think that leaves Kanu?

THIRD!

Kanu and yekini would be top 10 among Nigerian players something Jay jay cant achieve

Sagamite:
EPL is far better.

The average top EPL team will flog the average top Bundesliga team.

The average mid EPL team will flog the average mid Bundesliga team.

The average bottom EPL team will flog the average bottom Bundesliga team.

No sentiments, no worro worro arguments. EPL is superior.

Can you back these up with performance of EPL clubs in lesser competitions in Europe like UEFA cup?

JJ is regarded as a phenomenal legend in Bolton and Fenebarche! The fulcrum and star of the team. One of the best ever for their club.

If not for the effect of beer on your anatomy, I am certain you would be a phenomenal legend at Bolton. A club that became a retirement home for worn out players. i can point to over 5 players who came to bolton after they were well finished.

You will not find any team Kanu is regarded as a phenomenal legend in. They will remember him as the nice good player that came off the bench most times with a smile and some one or two times did magic.

You see how easy it is to form champion in Blackpool take charlie Adams to Barcelona and lets see if he would make the U15 youth team

Simples! Jay Jay is better. According to YOU, he can perform miracles Kanu cannot. Now compare Kanu to Yekini.

According to your logic, something is wrong with Bebeto, Dunga, Enyeama, Mustapha Hadji, Odemwingie, Juninho Paulista, Alan Shearer, Paul Gascoigne, Tony Yeboah, Lucas Radebe, Finidi George.

They are all shyt.

To me, they are not!

Players get levels and if a player cant get into Barcelona/Man utd/AC Milan/ Bayern? Real He should play for Deportivo, Arsenal, etc

Not relegation teams like Bolton or even ambitionless teams like the ones Okocha played for

Sagamite:
Shut up, cretin!

No, Inter is LASU and Ajax is Makerere University.

Sentiments has always been your problem, dayokanu. You hate something and you decide not to be objective.

I have seen you argue several times that Bundesliga is better than Premiership just because you hate England. It is that same sentimental tosh you are using against JJ here because you have always hated him.

I dont like some things does not mean I wont cede greatness to them.

I dont like Cristiano Ronaldo doesnt mean he isnt a great player.

I dont like man Utd. Doesnt mean I wont acknowledge their greatness.

My argument on Bundesliga vs Premiership is that Bundesliga is better. Why? The premiership is Top heavy but weak in the middle down.

If the EPL is better than the BL then the top , middle and bottom clubs should be better. I always said the Wealth of Dangote(richest black man) shouldnt be used to judge the living standards of nigerians.

I don't know how anyone can claim objectivity when they say JJ is not even in the top 10 of Nigeria. Ridiculous!

If you are into myths, circus and entertainment you would say Okocha is top 10 in Nigeria, I am sure those kind of people would believe India beat nigeria 100-1 and Thunder Balogun killed okala with his left leg.

All the others have something to stand on Okocha people would say see how he "drimmbles", NONSENSE and CONCOBILITY

Go on you tube and see which player everyone around the world worships the most. See Oyinbo creating Okocha vs Ronaldinho, Okocha vs Zidane etc clips. Read the comments of foreigners. Come and tell me how many they have created for Kanu or any other person.

The number of youtube clips means nothing. Go look for Denilsons videos and you would think the MESSIAH COMETH

Deportivo IS NOT a big club. Simples!
Shearer was not bought by a big club. Simples!
Because a big club did not buy you does not necessarily mean you are not capable. Simples!
Kanu was mostly on the bench whilst his team mate won things. Simples!
Kanu can not do the awesome things Okocha did. Simples!
Kanu is inferior to Yekini. Simples!

If you played over 15yrs in Europe and a big club didnt look your way just once then there is something wrong with you.

If a babe is always toasted by panel beaters, Mechanics Iron benders, and plumbers but never by executives and businessmen then there is a problem

^^ I'm starving for you mamagee

During Bebetos time Deportivo was a top club and narrowly lost the league to Barcelona on the final day in 1994 after finishing level on point. Real madrid finished 4th.

How many years was bolton top 8. Cos I remember in 2004, they barely escaped relegation.

Shearer won the league with his own Club, Kanu won the league with his own Club, Okocha won what? Tea spoon

Sagamite:
I would rather be the overall number one student at the whole of Georgia Tech than be bottom 25% in Columbia or UniPenn.

Ajax 1995 - Harvard

Inter Milan 1997 - NYU

Arsenal 1999-2004 = Georgia tech

Frankfurt = University of Great Falls http://www.ugf.edu/

Fenerbace = University of South East West Montana

PSG = Christian brothers University

Bolton = University of Yobe

Hull City = Wahala wahala University http://www.wallawalla.edu/

Deportivo at Bebetos time was a top 4-5 team in Spain Won the league in 2000

Fiorentina is a top 6 club in Italy won the league in

Lazio at Gazzas time was a top 6 club in Italy. Won the league in 2000.

Finidi played for Ajax, Ajax is a big club and Louis Van Gaal the coach of Ajax bought Finidi


Alan Shearer won the Premiership, Something Okocha never achieved but Kanu did, Yeboah played for hamburg a top 6 Bundesliga club , Moustpha Hadji played for Deportivo and Sporting Lisbon which are definitely not in Okochas class

Enyeama, Odemwengie, Radebe are in Okochas level and wack players as well

[quote author=baby-boy link=topic=691506.msg8557762#msg8557762 date=1308609263]Ajax bench => Inter Milans  Bench = > Arsenal's Bench => West Brom's Bench =>Pompey's Bench


18 years in Europe warming the bench,  Thats a great honour[/quote]Better be the benchwarmer/mediocre student in Harvard than be the Local Champion in University of Yobe

Sagamite:
According to this logic, that means Bebeto, Dunga, Enyeama, Mustapha Hadji, Odemwingie, Juninho Paulista, Alan Shearer, Paul Gascoigne, Tony Yeboah, Lucas Radebe, Finidi George,

Emmanuel Amuneke is better than all these people because he played for Barcelona and won APY. Just according to that logic o.

Amazing.

Bebeto played for Deportivo, Dunga played in Fiorentina, Gazza played in Lazio, Juninho Paulista played for Atletico Madrid when they won the league in Spain With Caminero and Kiko, Finidi Geoge?? Are you OK. Someone that won the CL with Ajax?

Okocha cant match any of theese players.

WHY IS IT THAT ALL TOP FOOTBALL COACHES OVERLOOKED OKOCHA IN HIS 17YRS CAREER

Was Ekiti not rule by a non Ekiti before the 1976 state split?

Why would they have an issue with it right now

I am not sure Ekiti state is worse than Ebonyi.

Why create Anioma state when you can do a boundary adjustment to carve Ibo part of Delta to Anambra. Cos you cant create Anioma State for the SE and deny people in SS their own slot.

Sagamite:
I can't believe this.

I didn't know you liked me this much!

Thank you. You seem to now have decided to be making my arguments for me.

So, according to your own admissions, JJ's team-mates are below average and absolutely no good so someone like JJ can easily become the star.

So JJ was the fulcrum that took below average players that were no good to the highest finishing and mid table consistency in one of the toughest league in the world. To achieve that, logic implies, he was either so good he raised the games of other players or basically he was doing the job of 11 players.

Mate, according to your OWN point, JJ is a God. Only people like Zidane can do such.

Just based on your OWN argument, JJ is the best because we ALL know Kanu is not capable of that feat. He is a sub of teams. Kanu would not have been able to do what JJ did for Bolton. We know that, no need to argue stewpidly about that.

You just proved JJ is the best!

Wack attracts wack. Messi at his peak would never play for Bolton. A good player would always find his way to a good club Definitely Okocha is not in the league of good players

Sagamite:
This are mooronic points. Please refrain from commenting further.

[size=18pt]I don't know what kind of mooronic point it is to think it is the fault of one player that a team plays badly[/size]. So if you take Okocha with Kano Pillars as a team to the WC, it is because of lack of Okocha's ability that the team was not capable of winning it.

Please have some self restraint and don't comment further. You know I have no patience for such.

In this statement you claim Okocha shouldnt be blamed for the teams poor performance And in the previous statement you claimed he should be credited for his team good performance, MAKE UP YOUR MIND OR SHOULD I MAKE IT UP FOR YOU?


Tell me why all the top teams overlooked Okocha.

Top players play for Top clubs and small players play for small clubs.

At Kanus peak he played for top clubs at Okochas peak he played for relegation bound teams

If Ajax was by luck , Was inter by luck too? if Inter was by luck was Arsenal by Luck too?

Which shows that wherever you are mentioning Kanu, Okocha shouldnt be mentioned there.

nsiadi:
Honestly I believe BBC is more positioned to confirm African Footballer in any year. Her judgement is more broad based.
Football has gone too political these days.
Money plays a huge part in this too
News have just filtered in that Jack Warner has resigned as vise president of FIFA, aftermath of corruption scandal

Apart from the foregoing CAF is being ridiculous in picking African Footballer of the Year. Physical presence is one of the criteria, just IMAGINE.
Whether everybody agrees or not luck plays important part in peoples lives. This may not be necessarily true in all cases.
Kanu had an undue share while Okocha was cheated abysmally.
Okocha, the distributor deserves to occupy the top slot.

Its not proper to deny him that, Sai Jay Jay

CAF cheated Jay jay, Champions Legaue cheated Jay jay, League cheated Jay Jay, FIFA World footballer of the year cheated Jay jay, Ballon D Or cheated jay jay, Top European clubs and coaches cheated JayJay

Just like a workman who complains about everything and blames his Tool

JayJay ko, Kay Kay ni

[quote author=baby-boy link=topic=691565.msg8556899#msg8556899 date=1308598821]It would be extremely hard for me to take the word of someone who said Kanu's peak was a couple of years after playing in the Under 17 tournament as Gospel,


Theirs a strong chance of you filling up a hot-air balloon before mid-night[/quote]This statement is borderline reetarded.

Ronaldos won back to back WPOTY at age 19-21. Just 2 yrs beyond his 17th birthday.

What has age got to do with Peak years?

Who doesnt know in football some players are early bloomers e.g Kluivert, Ronaldo, Kanu, Del Piero, Messi??, and some are late e.g Zidane, Drogba, Nistelrooy, Xavi, LucaToni

In football do they give out awards to best player in a team?

Who was Nigerias best player at Tunisia 1994, many would agree its Yekini. Do they give out awards? Go figure

Kanu was undisptably Nigerias best player at the Atlanta Olympics tournament you can take that to the bank.

He was even Nigerias top scorer in the tournament while Okocha was one of the worst players of the team

Well I am only interested in people who know their football not someone who doesnt know and he is not willing to read up

The High point of Kanus Career was in 1996 when he won the Olympics, Made 6th in FIFA world player of the year, 11th in Ballon D Or and made the transfer to Inter Milan.

Any football pundit know this.

I dont think it has anything to do with your American side.

What are the ages of the people involved

Sagamite:
No 1, it is easy for a relegation bound team to depend on you but you judge based on what you actually delivered to satisfy that dependency!

No 2, Bolton was not relegation bound (if I remember correctly), he was fulcrum and part of the guys that took them to their highest ever position in the Premiership.

No 3, was Fenebarche a relegation team too? No! He was a fulcrum.

No 4, was Nigeria a poor team too? No! He was a fulcrum.

No 5, Okocha never played for a team that was CL worthy, so if he never won CL, no big deal. Henry played for Arsenal and was God but could not win CL until he went to a team that was worthy. TEAMS win competitions. TEAMS. Kanu did not win CL, he was a bench-warmer in a team that did.

Barcelona depends on the following as fulcrum: Xavi, Messi and Iniesta. David Villa is good but is not the fulcrum of that team. That is what I was trying to explain with that weak demba example. Demba playing well in 10 games a season does not make him fulcrum.

So Kanu was old at West Brom 6 years ago? Really? OK explain to me what he did when he was young.

Tell me a time when Kanu was an indispensible product of his team between 1995 till 2011 of his career.

1. The quality of teammates in a relegation bound team are so low that an average player like Okocha can easily become the fulcrum.

2. Bolton was a below average club by any standard and when Bigger clubs didnt look at Okocha, he had to settle for clubs on his level like Bolton where he can rub skills with fellow wack players.

3. Fenerbahce plays in a backwater league and are not even the best its like playing for Macabbi Haifa or Apoel Nicosia of Cyprus

4. He was the fulcrum of Nigerian team when our real players like Finidi, Taribo, Oliseh etc left and when Kanu started to dwindle. In the hey days of Nigerian football, WHO WAS OKOCHA!!!!

5. OKOCHA never played for CL worthy teams because none of them saw him as good enough to wear their shirt. OKOCHA has never felt how playing at Nou Camp is, Bernabeu, Estadio Delle Alpi, San Siro et al. He is only suited for stadiums of Hull City and Reebok.

TEAMS win CL and players constitute teams, The name Barcelona sisnt win the CL it was the players in it that won. take Okochas and his caliber of useless players to Barcelona and you would see them crumble

Can you now tell who the fulcrum in West Brom is, and if he is better than Arshavin who sits on the Arsenal bench, Is the fulcrum in Hull City better than Benzema on the Real Bench?

When Kanu was young he played a CL final, He won the league, He won the Olympic medal as the best player, He won league titles, He was the f**king 6th best player in the whole WORLD, He was number 11 on Ballon D'or No one in OKOCHAs generation can achieve that,

You need to read and learn about football before coming to spew rubbish on the internet.

You are lucky you didnt try this with Sagamite else

You need to read and learn about football before coming to spew rubbish on the internet.

You are lucky you didnt try this with Sagamite else

[quote author=baby-boy link=topic=691506.msg8556510#msg8556510 date=1308594935]I have never heard so much rubbish in my life[/quote]So much rubbish I tell you, For someone asking who started our comeback in the finals. Maybe you should read up about stuffs you come online to argue about.

[quote author=baby-boy link=topic=691565.msg8548667#msg8548667 date=1308498643]Wow,

Please tell me who scored in the nerve racking quarter final game against Mexico?

who started the come back in the final?[/quote]

You obviously dont know much about football, You need to update your knowledge before we continue,


Were you not the one asking those ridiculous questions above?

[quote author=baby-boy link=topic=691565.msg8548667#msg8548667 date=1308498643]Wow,

Please tell me who scored in the nerve racking quarter final game against Mexico?

who started the come back in the final?[/quote]

You obviously dont know nothing about football.

Ronaldos prime was between 1997-1999 when he was 20-23yrs old

When was Ronaldo Limas prime?