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olabowale:
D_D, you are more confused that I thought: If Jesus was God the father, because they are one, in the first place, and he and holy spirit are also one, because that these were is other personalities or attributes, why does he have to die to become holy spirit/ghost again? This is very serious, D_D!

Alhaji, the purpose of Christ's death was not so that He could transform into the holy Ghost but that through His death AND resurrection we may have redemption from spiritual death/sin.
The Holy Spirit is simply there as a guide and is only available to those who have accepted the sacrifice of the cross.

I purposely ignored your post until i saw Chilla trot in to display the ignorant culture of dishonesty that is prevalent in the muslim "faith".

samsonola:
But at least for a small period, your god actually died which makes him mortal at that moment.
Please, is it the same god that created everyone?

You muslims love to tell us that God is unfathomable . . . YET you find it so hard to swallow the fact that God is powerful enough to come down in human form?
Is it so hard that the God who created you from dust and breathed the breathe of life into you can decide to lay down his life and take it up again?
How dishonest can you get that you believe that God could be born of a virgin and YET find it hard to believe that He could be crucified on the cross?

Has ANY HUMAN been born of a virgin? How is that possible?

samsonola:
Please explain this verse of the bible ''And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, ''Eli, Eli, la ma sabach-thani?'' that is my God why hast thou forsaken?, Mathew 27: 45-46
1-who is Jesus calling on

This verse has been explained 1000x, another islamic hypocrite will be sure to come here again asking us to explain that verse despite reading the tons of explanations already given.

As a muslim . . . you believe that allah is omnipresent (can be in more than 2 places at one time) . . . is it difficult for you to believe that Christ could have been on the cross and in heaven at the same time?

samsonola:
2-is jesus equal in power to this individual

One of the complaints the pharisees had was that Christ made Himself equal with God. . . certainly Christ made several indirect references to the fact that He was God except in human form. Spiritually blind slaves of allah, like the pharisees of those days, will never understand.

samsonola:
3-if your god took on mortality, then what other god is he calling for help

You are asking the same question 2ce as is expected of someone who is confused and is not genuinely seeking clarification.

samsonola:
4-if your god took on mortality so as to come to earth to get beaten to death by those he created, then it dosent make sense

It doesnt make sense to a slave. . . it makes sense however to a son and a joint heir with Christ.

samsonola:
consider this:''I can do nothing on my own authority; as i hear ,i judge;and my judgement is just, because i seek not my own will but the will of him who sent me'' John 5:30
Jesus takes justifiable pride in speaking and acting on Gods command. They are in no way one .God is the master and Jesus his slave/prophet
bless you

The same Christ made this statement : John 10:30 I and [my] Father are one.

John 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

The Jews clearly understood what Christ meant . . . that He was God Himself in human flesh.

Samsonola and chila can continue wallowing in their delusions of grandeur.

chilla:
Good point Brother

May Allah reward u

Good point? Do you even understand anything samsonola said? Good point simply because he's denigrating christianity as is the custom with slaves of the mohammedan religion?

May allah reward him for what? Insulting the christian faith?

We'll see.

Did shapey complain about FGM? How did it suddenly become a topic of discussion?

whytomi:
SUPER EAGLES IS DEAD!!! I have given up on the super eagles.they messed up in 2004,2006 and now they don start to dey mess up. i expect a 2-0 win in favour of MALI or what do you think guys

we knew that since 1998.

D-reloaded:
Last I checked priest perferred boys

With those boobs of urs only blind priests would choose a boy over u.

Your best option right now is plan B - convent.
Except on moral and spiritual issues . . . you probably dont want to marry a figure head who agrees with every tiny thing you say.

I hear nuns can now marry priests so u shld be ok.

D-reloaded:
I will leave it

ok lets see u marry urself.

dont make bets you have no intention of keeping, chicken.

Souljagirl:
_{"shakes head"} africans sha. make una dey there dey complain about names. the world is advancing and moving forward, women are being recognized as human beings in the society with voices and opinions, and some of you would rather be stuck in the dark ages.

chill. So women now bearing their maiden names is your own idea of "world advancement"?
So women who bear their husband's names are not regarded as humans with voices and oppinions?
Hillary Clinton is bearing her husband's name and is likely to become America's next president . . . what are you talking about?

So Hillary is stuck in the dark ages?

Souljagirl:
i feel sorry for you. anyway, its only a handful of people that still object to their wife keeping her last name, those that have a complex and think the wife is property that should be stamped!

chill again. So Bill Clinton has a complex and regards Hillary as property to be stamped?

Souljagirl:
i'm keeping my last name, it is very precious to me. most of my siblings are girls, so it's even more important that we keep the name alive! if i had my way, my future kids would bear my maiden name plus their father's name too! oh, wait, i'll just name one child with my maiden name. yes, that's it!

by all means keep your last name but pls make some sense while trying to do so. Millions of women gladly take their husbands names, its not because they are just brainless sheep.

how do you score a penalty when the goalposts are being moved by the other team? That is the very definition of the word "unfair".

D-reloaded:
As for women get pregnant, quite a number of women who have sex and don't get pregnant. One of my good friends, she's Igbo and lol Catholic, she always gets mad when I make fun of the Catholic church, been having sex since freshman year in college yet to ever get pregnant, not even a scare, she just makes sure that she's protected. when she wants to settle down and have kids, I assume she will ditch the contraceptives. another irony considering the catholic church is against contraceptatives, but that's beside the point

your friend is one in millions of ignorant women out there. A cousin of mine who is barely out of her diapers is already a mother . . . of course the boy is busy enjoying himself while the silly she-goat is running around passing her responsibility to others.
Take it or leave it, men are lucky . . . 5 mins, zip up and who cares if she has to spend the rest of the month panicking? We can always deny the pregnancy chikena.

If i were a father, i'd lock up my daughter too.

D-reloaded:
It's ok that a woman should dream of giving her "gift" to her husband but she has to deal with his nasty second hand arse. How is that fair? Why can't she get a "precious" gift too? Lmao havent women suffered enough? Do we not deserve gifts as well? O ma ga o.

pele . . . do you want a handkerchief to wipe ur tears?

Today's culture places the burden of fidelity on the woman. That's why men can cheat on their wives and her family will simply tell her to get on with it.
I have read women on these boards claim they can never marry a virgin husband . . . i have dated girls who openly expect that you shld be a pro when it comes to sex . . . sometimes you wonder . . . even women dont appreciate male virgins anymore.

sadly you can cry from now till tomorrow . . . you cant change society's perception.

D-reloaded:
The wish will also only last 24 hrs so go ahead and say it

The goalposts have been moved.

still want to place the bet?

You cant go back on your word when you give it . . . still feel confident enough to place the bet?

D-reloaded:
Mr DD,

I will grant you any wish if you can go 24 hrs without entering an Islamic thread. Wanna take on my bet?

Read these words carefully before answering.

D-reloaded:
Mr DD,

I will grant you any wish if you can go 24 hrs without entering an Islamic thread. Wanna take on my bet?

be careful what you wish for. What i may ask may be beyond you, still want a bet?

D-reloaded:
Seriously though, my problem with very religious families is how in denial they are about sex. I guess that explains why most of the time their kids end up mentally disturbed.

you're in danger here of over-generalising. It is true that many religious familes are in denial about the influence of sex . . . my family is a good example. But none of us has ended up mentally challenged just yet . . . or maybe i'm in denial 
Fact - the parents may pretend to be in denial but the children are much wiser.
Fact - many religious families do open up eventually. At least my parents did when they felt we were old enough . . . the only problem was we were already a lot wiser.

D-reloaded:
Why are they always so sexist too? I've never really heard of these people discussing how "honorable" it is if a guy waited for marriage too, always the females. why? Do the same words that concern fornication in the Bible not extend to males as well, what exactly is it? The same guys that complain about "sinful dressing Delilahs" are the same people sleeping with these same girls yet have the audacity to scream for purity and chasisty and how the word is so sex-obsessed, yada yada yada.

Let's not decieve ourselves . . . its a man's world. (don't crucify me yet).
Men don't get pregnant, women do.
Men don't attach much emotional significance to sex, women do. It is perfectly possible to have sex with a woman and forget her within 2 mins . . . women tend to have a soul tie to whoever they have sex with.
No one expects to marry a male virgin . . . it is the dream of parents to give their daughters away as virgins.

It is all part of our culture that cannot be wished away simply by complaining. It is not true that parents don't expect their sons to be virgins, its just that in this day and age . . . how many parents are bold enough to ask their sons if they are having sex? My parents are strong christians . . . they wont dare ask. All they can do is hope and pray that their boys are keeping their zippers closed.
The bible does not discriminate when it comes to fornication . . . infact it is even stricter for men . . . he that looketh on a woman to lust after her IN HIS heart (not even touching) hath commited fornication with her already.  Based on this law alone even 10yr old boys are guilty of fornication.

D-reloaded:
You mentioned in one thread that before your husband was saved by Christ, he had been with various women. I wonder if he had felt the same about you had it been the other way around and you too later was reformed through Christ. Highly doubtful

who can blame him? All the while i was a nice little virgin, my friends thought i was crazy.
On the flip side we made fun of the very same girls they were sleeping around with. It indeed is an unfair world.

D-reloaded:
Hard as it may be why can't THEY have self control?

we have plenty of self control its just that our society expects us to throw it away to prove that we are now "men". Imagine the face of your girlfriend when u tell her u're a virgin . . . its like you're not normal or smth.

D-reloaded:
Why is such a thing only placed on the women. We all go through puberty, we all have hormones, I know most people are in denial and ignorant but here's a secret: women have sexual urges too, why are they the only ones who have to supress until their wedding day? I will never understand.

don't bother understanding. When you have boys and girls as kids you will unconsciously do the same thing.

D-reloaded:
You can be like "um sex is adult matters" and expect the child to forget about it and never be curious because they will be and they will end with the wrong information because they are so afraid to ask questions. What exactly is it that they (these parents) are afraid of? Would they really rather their kids come back with STDs then dare mention the word "condom" or pill in their homes?

i don't even subscribe to the idea of telling kids about condoms and pills . . . it is simply a license to have sex. Tell them not to. period.

I never understood the trinity until the day my dad used a very simple illustration . . . when i get married i will be a husband . . . when i have kids i automatically become a father . . . but until i am 90yrs old i will always remain a son to my parents.

Alhaji, the fact that i am a father does not nullify the fact that i still remain a son to my parents. It all depends on which angle of the prism you look.

Christ was the FATHER (God above us) in the old testament . . . His name (Jesus Christ) was yet to be revealed . . . remember Moses at one time asked God for His name and all he got was "tell them I am that I am" hath sent thee". When He took on flesh and dwelt among us He became the Son . . . Jesus Christ (God with us) . . . after His death and ressurection He became the Holy Spirit . . . still that same God in the wilderness, the same Jesus who ate with Peter, James and John . . . the same God now dwelling in the hearts of those who are humble enough to let their lives be led by Him . . . God IN us . . . our hope of glory.

Sadly alhaji, you have been "served" this for the last 2 years . . . soon you will be back asking to be served again. Hard heartedness was one of the predicted signs of the end time.

samsonola:
Shaytan has taken pocession of this guys soul. He is in complete darkness. How can your god who created you come back and be beaten to death because of your sins. Is your god a mortal?

My God is not mortal . . . but he took on mortality that he might conquer sin, death and the grave that through Him we may have life eternal.

The sad thing is you say Jesus was not like this during His lifetime but you cannot prove it from your empty quran.

this is a really sad morning. 6-2, 6-3, 6-2. It wasnt even close!

From now on i'm a Tsonga, Nadal fan.

Lolabbey:
The plan of Istiqama is seldom heard.

Istiqama means - straighforwardness. How does the above then make sense?

Lolabbey:
But forgiveness of sin, so full and free,
Is found in the Quran, not on TV

The quran has no concept for sin so what is actually found in the quran?

Thanks to Pilgrim.1's eagle eyes . . . now we know this was nothing but shameless plagiarism of a christian poem. How low can these people descend?

Samsononla, people like you are not new. Muslims who have been roundly trounced on other threads suddenly appearing to be "puzzled" by posting irrelevant threads.

Back to ur topic: the cross is important to christians because that is the symbol of spiritual redemption . . . the symbol of God's greatest sacrifice of love to man.
HOWEVER the most important issue is NOT the cross but that Christ is risen again. If he did not resurrect the cross would be as good as useless.

Again you are just behaving like the typical dishonest muslim . . . lying through ur teeth. I have never worn the symbol of the cross on my neck neither did most of my friends. I cant remember seeing a symbol of the cross in most christian homes.

+osisi:
A goat may have eaten some of the "revelations"

a slave girl, Barirah, testified (al-Tabari, p.1523), “The only fault I ever found in ‘Ā’ishah is that, when I was kneading my dough and ordered her to watch it, she fell asleep over it, and the pet sheep (or a goat) came and ate it.”

do you really blame Aisha, she wasnt much older than 6. At that age the goat was probably bigger than she was. So much for allah's "greatness" . . . he could not even protect his precious "revelations" from a hungry she-goat.

olabowale:
@away4real You did not see my several entries of the Qur'an which speak about covenant of Allah with His slave Prophet Ibrahiim. It shows that you are a disingenuous person.

No sir, all your hypocritical long pieces you copied and pasted saidn Zilch about a covenant between allah and ibrahim. How long could this so-called covenant be? 5 pages long? What is the essentiall summary of this covenant in the quran?
You have simply further convinced me that there is indeed a culture of dishonesty in islam.

olabowale:
For example we do not go against Muhammad (as) in any matter of religion.

this is idol worship.

olabowale:
Unlike you who go over the head of Jesus in the matter of your beliefs in God, worship of God, etc. For example Mark 12 verse 29, Jesus was reported to have said that God is One Lord. That God is the Lord of Jesus, as well. But then you guys then developed a three in One godship. You have this fishy smell in your living room, you still have the gut to tell me I do not understand my religion?

this is what? The 109076th time you have repeated this same claims that you are struggling desperately to force into the bible? This lies have long been debunked by several pple but it seems that is your only reply each time you are served with one more evidence of islam's falsehood.

olabowale:
First, Islam deals with heart accepting and the tongue truly believing in One God.

Where in the quran is this mentioned or are you trying to import yet more biblical principles into ur dead book? Here is what you are trying to copy: Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Try next time to be a little more original as we are all aware islam says absolutely nothing about the heart accepting anything.
If we may even ask . . . what is the heart of the muslim expected to accept?

olabowale:
You Africans, whose mother tongue is not English are using translated Qur'an as the Qur'an of Islam. I have news for you, Christians; Qur'an is purely in Arabic.

well i also have news for you:
1. Look around and see how many times your fellow muslims have urged us to purchase a translated version of the quran and read. Who shld we believe?

2. If allah is the "lord of the worlds" . . . why is his so-called book only understandable in arabic? why did he bother "creating" the other languages?

3. Does this mean that millions of muslims who cant speak arabic will never be able to read allah's prophecies? So much for a "god" who is oft forgiving and merciful.

4. It seems this excuse of the quran only being understood in arabic is one ur equally clueless imams have taught u to use as a good way of avoiding answering for allah's many inconsistencies.

olabowale:
So that you understandnyour follies, pick your tribal language in Nigeria. Lets pick Igbo for illustration. If few Igbo writers were to write what it means, of the verses of Qur'an, in Igbo language, you will have so many slightly varied words. For example the writer from Abia state will write slightly a different Qur'an than a person in Enugu. But neither is a true Qur'an. A true Qur'an must be in pure Arabic, when you hear the sound, since it is an oral revelation. You see where I am going with this. So your hammering on the English language 'Qur'an,' is a baseless and lack of real argument against Islam. A Yoruba man who speaks only Yoruba, is not required to read English Qur'an. However every Muslim is encouraged to learn how to recite, read Qur'an in Arabic.

you have been quoting the quran here before . . . did you do so in arabic?
When next you want to quote the book of Mark of Deuteronomy pls make sure you do so in hebrew. You see where i am going with this?

olabowale:
Hadith is graded based on its sound narrations and other factors. However, when you read hadith, you can see whether it fits the quality of Muhammad (as), or not. He will not curse a soul unless the soul does truly deserve it.

alhaji mohammed cursed up till his last breath, angels of allah are busy cursing, allah himself is full of curses . . . is islam only about cursing?
Where did mohammed bless those who truly deserved it?

A fight with your spouse could be good for health: study

CHICAGO (AFP) - A good fight with your spouse could be good for the health, a new study has found.

Couples who suppressed their anger have a mortality rate twice as high as those in which at least one partner stands up for themselves, according to the study which tracked 192 US couples for 17 years.

Disturbed could be right afterall.

geegee:
i have done things im not proud of as a married woman and could not bear it.i opened up and told him the truth how it start and i want it to end. he was able to forgive me knowing i am only human. when i was diagnose with HIV a year after we got married my husband is still here.he never stop telling me how much he love me and will grow old together. i couldn't ask for a better partner and friend.

and this is ur pathetic excuse for your unfaithfulness? So if he had been the unfaithful one and had contracted AIDS you'd simply shrug and admit he was only human after all?

The hypocrisy!

Serve me this serve me that . . . oya babs do you need me to serve you fork and knife to digest the above?

flakes:
Why is the muslim world silent about the massive rapes in darfur,Sudan?

simple answer: there is no US or Isreal to blame.

bros pataks, how many D dey for that my old username? u no sabi maths after all these yrs.

Igwe is a big boy now, flying about in all-expenses paid aircraft. Make you no tempt me at all o . . . if you do your own secret go just fall yakata for ground.

Olorioko must be a big girl now. She take style fine small o. Had a very nice smile.

Pahtakee nothing dey happen
The 2 Ds are simply those present in my former username

Igwe na ur grandson . . . why ui no talk am before. yeye boy. The olorioko don marry abi she still dey waka about her mama shop?

tkb, the fellow has been secretly pursuing funkybaby ever since.

pahtahkee:
@ tkb,
David na my son.

for where? Make igwe hear you. how ur end?
where are the room 20 girls now? especially the dark one who used to chase shettima?

tkb417:
@D-D
how do you mean what hes doing with Funkybaby?
wetin concern u?

wetin u know? pataki na my boy.