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Melvyn11:
Messi was piss-poor in 2014. He scored a load of
goals against Nigeria and Bosnia before
disappearing in the knock-out stages.Sit down.

*Second round against Switzerland: He assisted de maria for the knock out goal and won the man of the match award.

*Quarter final against Belgium; He neither scored nor assisted but had the highest number of dribbles and chances created.

*Semi final against Netherlands; A very tough match againt a team that thrashed the defending champions Spain by 5-1.
It ended 0-0. Went Into penalties. Messi didn't wait to get the last penalty and take the glory.
He went for the first penalty and scored and they elinated Holland.

He ended the competition with 4 goals and 1 assist despite Higuain being the team's striker and he won the golden ball.


If this is what you call piss-poor then i feel very bad for your sanity.

Krasid:
No. Lets go back to the 2010 WC when he had a lacklustre conversion of 0%.

we don't need to do that.

the fairest thing to do is to compare their best fifa world cup legacies.

ronaldo has led his team to one first round exit and two second round exits.
messi has led his team to the world cup final and won the golden ball.

ronaldo has 0 goal and 0 assist in the knock out stages.
messi has 3 assists in the knock out stages.

oya talk your own.

Krasid:
Messi with a 5.6% conversion rate had the worst conversion rate at the just concluded WC . Lingard and Rakitic in 2nd and 3rd with 5.9 and 6.7 respectively. Disasterclass

Messi

Lingard

Rakitic

These guys are not even strikers;

Messi's striker was Aguero.
Rakitic's striker was Mandzukic.
Lingard's striker was Kane.


Why are their conversion rates even an issue?

Krasid use your head.

Krasid:
Messi with a 5.6% conversion rate had the worst conversion rate at the just concluded WC . Lingard and Rakitic in 2nd and 3rd with 5.9 and 6.7 respectively. Disasterclass

it seems the world cup just started in 2018 and this was just the first world cup ever.

oya tell us a little something about the 2014 world cup.

i am waiting.

Krasid:
Lionel Cuccittini Messi will forever be an international disappointment and that's just facts. I remember telling deluded barkabots tipping Arg for WC glory that the football gods won't allow such happen anymore. All greats would only given a minimum amount of luck by the heavens to taste international success. Pele was given three, he took all; Cruyff once which he failed, Maradona twice; he took once; Ororo twice, he took once. But this midget has been given about 4 chances to sit down in the round table of legends that have tasted success for club and country and has nothing to show. All he has to show is 4 final disasterclass, 4 tears, 1 penalty miss,and 1 international retirement. Ahn ahn, have they not tried for this man? It's time they moved on to the younger generation like Mbappe(who btw has in his first, done what the midget could only dream of).

Krasid:
And you brazenly list Messi's principal cup U20 WC and olympic win as part of his international successes . Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

The above was how the convo started.

You started by mentioning all the so called greats.

You mentioned Pele with a world cup.

You mentioned Maradona with a world cup.

You then mentioned Cristiano with his euros cup.

Consequently putting the trio in the same bracket.


And then you thrashed Messi.


I didn't compared Messi's success to Ronaldo's.

You did.

It's barely 1 hour and you've forgotten already?

Krasid:
You have the temerity to call the Euros, arguably the 2nd biggest football tourney, and biggest European tournament ''common''. You have no shame and will go to any length to defend your midget. Pray tell, why hasn't your midget won a relatively easier and more common Copa America that is now being held almost every year?

obviously you didn't get the lecture.

call the euros whatever you would,

but when talking about players performing for their countries,

never never put it in the same sentence with maradona's or pele's world cup.

never in the same sentence bro.

Krasid:
And that is why he will never be my G.O.A.T. He lacks that charisma to lead Argentina to glory. Whenever his team concedes or is lacking ideas, he drops his head and fails to instill that confidence in them. A weak-willed dustbite will never lead a team to success; Ronaldo as much as he has been criticized by barkabots for not featuring in the Euro '16 final gingered Eder enough for him(Eder) to see himself as Burruchaga's reincarnate. That, my dear, is what Messi will never have and there's absolutely nothing you or any Barca/Messi can do about it.

lol

"GINGERED EDER"

*he played the euro final against greece in 2004 and couldnt ginger himself.

*he played against france at world cup 2006 and couldn't ginger himself.

*he played against spain at euro 2008 and couldn't ginger himself.

*he played against spain at world cup 2010 and couldn't ginger himself.

*he played against chile at the confederations cup 2017 and couldn't ginger himself.

*he just played against uruguay and couldn't ginger himself.



but but whenever he's not playing he knows how to ginger other people abi


Kontinue!

No player ever wins a tournament,
A team does!

Mbappe just won the world cup,
Of course we could all witness the squad he had with him.

Even the Ronaldo's miserly continental competition they are yapping about, Pepe was the beast at the back and Eder was there to convert.

To put it into perspective, before the world cup began, no player not named Messi had scored for argentina in 11 months,
And that last player to score for argentina was assisted by Messi.

Messi is the top scorer in the history of argentina.

Messi has given his teammates the highest assists and scoring chances in the history of argentina.

With all of the individual awards and trophies he has bagged.

I know he's expected to win the world cup all by himself, being the greatest club player in history.

But his squad has never never complemented him.

He has however gone on to leave his teammates behind and win things on his own.

*Under 20 world cup 2005 he was the best player of the tournament.
*Olympics 2008 he was the best player.
*The Fifa world cup 2014 he was the best player.

It's simple,

Anyone who really thinks that Messi is a flop for argentina is a fool.
And that's putting it very mildly.

Krasid:
Lionel Cuccittini Messi will forever be an international disappointed and that's just facts. I remember telling deluded barkabots tipping Arg. for WC glory that the football gods won't allow such happen anymore. All greats would only given a minimum amount of luck by the heavens to taste international success. Pele was given three, he took all; Cruyff once which he failed, Maradona twice; he took once; Ororo twice, he took once. But this midget has been given about 4 chances to sit down in the round table of legends that have tasted success for club and country and has nothing to show. All he has to show is 4 final disasterclass, 4 tears, 1 penalty miss, and 1 international retirement. Ahn ahn, have they not tried for this man? It's time they moved on to the younger generation like Mbappe(who btw has in his first, done what the midget could only dream of).

see this one!

we are talking about players who won world cups,
he's mischievously sneaking in the gaylord who won a common continental championship.

besides, what chance did he take and how? by clapping on the sidelines?
he missed the final and portugal won the final.

portugal always loses big trophy games whenever ronaldo plays.

nonsense, keep on deluding yourself.

and when you want to mention international achievements,

you're mentioning pele and maradona and zidane and de lima,
and then sneaking in cristiano ronaldo!

nigga the euros is not the world cup and they are not even close!

Why are people so serious condemning this thread?

It seems Buhari has killed our senses of humour in this country.

Long overdue

From

Ulreich to
Karius to
De Gea to
Caballero to
Lloris.

What a year for goalkeepers!

My own personal lesson is that PDP will be away from power for a very very long time.

Creatrixity:
That's all correct. I'm yet to see a talisman that dropped 7/10 matches consecutively from the start to finish. Without your mates chipping in, you're fecked.

However I feel referring to Ronaldo's actions during the 2016 Euro final as "cheerleading" is really deprecatory, I mean the man did not exactly signup for that really malicious tackle by Dimitry Payet and there were only two choices: retreat to the dressing room and potentially see all your work hitherto go up in flames...or stay on the ground and add a little bit of extra fire. He chose the latter and the rest is history. It's a fact that the psychology of achievement in football is of prime importance.

I also don't think the final losses are down solely to Messi. Fortunately, he may still have a last chance.

It's simple: you either do the job...or get your goddamn mates fired enough to do it for you.

lol

The cheerleading thing is always my response to his fan boys who consistently say messi is a flop for argentina.

Does losing out on the world cup and the copa automatically make him a flop?

*Getting to the world cup final and losing 1-0 in extra time is flop?

*Getting to 2 copa america finals and losing only on penalties is flop?

*Winning the world cup golden ball is flop?

*Being the highest goal scorer in the history of your national team is flop?

*Being the highest assist provider in the history of your country is flop?

*Winning an olympic gold medal for your country is flop?

They say ronaldo delivers for portugal while messi flops for argentina,

On account of that final match when he was off while eder scored.

The records always must be straight.

Creatrixity:
Honestly, sometimes I feel Higuaín gets too much stick for those misses.

Football is a funny sport, sometimes it's actually easier to hit a long range wonder into the back of the net than a seemingly easy tap-in. This is because, long rangers harness the element of surprise...and most times, you can simply aim at the keeper and let fly and something good may come. Tap ins are much harder sometimes. The seeming ease of scoring a tap in deceptively allows an attacker to throw his technique to the birds. Ironically, the fear of missing a tap in becomes the self fulfilling prophecy as you lose the tap in for real

Eder scoring in a final doesn't mean he is better than Higuaín.

i concurr 100%.

the point really is just to highlight how a teammate's effort could give another super star glory.

for all of maradona's magic at the mexico 86 world cup, if valdano and buruchaga hadn't stepped up in the final, no one would remember maradona's magic esp against england.

for all of pele's magic in 1970 if jairzinho and carlos alberto hadn't stepped up in the final no one would remember pele's wonders in the 1970 world cup.

zidane was anonymous in 1998 as thuram and others carried the team to the final and zidane stepped up.

when ronaldo de lima wasn't in form in 2002,ronaldinho was on hand to wreak havoc and de lima returned to claim the final glory.

as cristiano ronaldo was cheerleading in 2016 eder was on hand to win the trophy for portugal.

one man has never won a tournament.

that's the essence of my reply to him.

Awesome01:
Sometimes I get disappointed with some of my fellow cules on this thread, we should learn to stop responding to some trolling which we know are stupid arguments that doesn't make any sense.

That we need to defend our club doesn't mean we should always answer to every idiotic trolling that lacks logic abeg.

Silence is most times the best answer to ...(you know).

the danger of always ignoring ignorant people is that there are too many ignorant people in the world.

therefore they always think they have a quorum and what they say to each other begins to seem like the truth.

Swissh:
Does messi even have any iconic moment in 2018.

another sentiment from the land of imbeciiles

Unlimited22:
Are you saying Eder is better than every striker Argentina have had since 2005?

no

but the one chance he scored from was a hundred times more difficult than the three chances higuain missed in three finals.

Lordemperoris100:
I agree with this completely.

one idiot here was mocking for joining biggest team I'm England ,Spain and now italy and not the likes of verona ,osasuna and carry them to trophies

what is holding the dwarf from even joining the biggest in France and Germany? ( we don't want him to even join a small team..

Messi please join a big team

can't just understand this mode of reasoning!!!

a man is working for fc barcelona.

he has won too many accolades in the city of barcelona.

fc barcelona pays him heavily.

his family is very well and happy in the city of barcelona.

he loves the good food and the weather.

he is enjoying the best of life in the city.

he is pampered and adored in the city of barcelona.


but lordemperorsis and others want him to leave barcelona and leave everything behind.

for what


just to prove to the world he is better than cristiano ronaldo.


this is sickening.

Neymar1095:
Barca Fans think it's loyalty lol. Man has 9 contract renewals in 13 yrs at Barca - Demanded 100million signin on bonus. Loyalty my ass. When he wants a contract renewal he'd go to Instagram
and follow Chelsea and/or Manchester City LMFAO

at least the club can still stand him.

not when you;

-rant about leaving when your team just won their 3rd straight champions league title.
-rant cus abeloa failed to pass to you and he just scored his first goal in 9 years.
-refuse to celebrate with your team mates cus you hadn't scored.
-gesticulate angrily at bale cus he dared to shoot instead of laying it to you for a tap in.
-tell the would you lost a match cuz your teammates aren't at your level.

if you do all these and then ask for a raise, the club would show you they're fed up with your shiit.


i'd always be available to guide you to use your brain right.

Neymar1095:
Messi is a local dwarf/hero in Barca. He can't even try it to play for any other club as he wud fail woefully. An evidence to this is his failure to win a major trophy for Arg. He lacks the talents as there won't be Iniesta to help him .Man went to two competition
back to back with Argentina without scoring any goal lol. Your mcm is a fraud.

David Silva
Juan Mata
Santi Cazorla
Yaya Tuore
Diego Costa
Eric Bailey
Fabregas Cesc
Alexis Sanchez
Pedro Rodriguez
Jesus Navas
Nicolas Otamendi
Mesut Ozil
Angel De Maria

This is just a handful of footballers who were at best above average in the spanish la liga but went on to tear apart the EPL and become some of the best players around there.
And then you say Messi would flop in the EPL and outside of spain!!!

Why can't you just pretend to be smart sometimes?

Yes I know that certain people indulge and patronize you here and there with a few 'likes' but common,

You really need an overdose of some "intellect viagra" to boost your performance.

JoyAda1234:
Portugal won euro without ronaldo,ronaldo hasn't won any individual trophy with portugal,couldn't win golden boot in euro 2016,wasn't even the second highest goalscorer(so much for a goalscoring machine).If there was an Eder in the argentine national team,you wouldn't be here ranting,you know

Me dear Sister,

Don't mind these people with their smelly smelly logic,

Messi got to 3 finals and lost on penalties as well,

Ronaldo got to 2 finals, lost one and missed one.

And then Ronaldo fan boys conclude that Ronaldo is greater than Messi on the international stage.

Only someone with their tongue in Ronaldo assss would reason that way.

Neymar1095:
Ronaldo is about cchallenging himself once again at
33 while midget is scared of leaving his comfort zone lol. Messi should continue with the Spanish farmers ...That’s why he has been a
failure whenever he’s not putting on the Barca shirt.

And since when did football or sports become about proving anything to anyone

So Ronaldo went to Italy to prove that he can play in different leagues right

Confucius says;
"The one who always tries to prove something is actually the inferior one"

You might not know a thing about Confucious,
But you surely do know how to lift memes from twitter, I give that to you.

So think about it very carefully,

And you just might understand.

Rabiot

William

Linglet



Hmn

activistjohnny:
while Arresting the deputy governorship candidate and other three house of assembly members in ekiti state. ekiti people will resist any form of intimidation and harassment. it will never work in ekiti state. they can only arrest them to create fear in people's mind, ekiti people are well prepared about this intimidation by FG police and military officers.

lol.

this one is on nairaland resisting intimidation and harassment.

lwkmd!

Neymar1095:
lol.... instead if you to campaign for Messi to even end up in top 3 you are shamelessly drooling over a Madrid player .......WTF.

this time last friday you were campaigning for neymar to win the following;

-russia 2018 world cup
-the golden ball
-the 2018 ballon dor

and by the time belgium finished with brazil and neymar dropped a disasterclass,
you went back into hibernation.

and then yesterday you felt the dust haze had settled,

hence here you are again advertising stupiidity.



FYI,

stupiidity doesn't need a physical presence on this thread.

Lana1:
True. But all that one na cool story.

Ronaldo still leading the Balon D' Or race!!

all that might change in 48 hours.

pray.

just say your graces.

Lana1:
Ok. But lets not forget the fraudulent golden ball they gave Messi in the 2014 World Cup.

So according to you and the current available stats, thats Ojoro, Messi 2 - 1 Ronaldo.

So therefore Ronaldo to win the next Balon D' Or and even things out at 2-2!!

Case closed. Everyone goes home happy!!

all ronaldo had to do was 'pretend' to drag his team over the world cup second round stage for once,

he might have had his own fraudulent golden ball too.

Messi is paid 40.5 mil
Ronaldo is paid 26.6 mil

No club could pay him as much as Messi again.

He's old.

Neymar1095:
. Nothing comes close to the robbery that was done to Wesley Sneijder in
2010 to favor Messi for some odd reasons. Nothing.at all. Blatter gave the midget a career.

at least voting was done.

at least the voting date was not scandalously postponed and voters allowed to change already cast votes.

the biggest ballon dor scandal in history happened in 2013.

you midget brain!!!

Melvyn11:
lol..... barca fans sha.

When sneijder won the world cup silver ball and treble with inter 2010 then why did Messi win Balon dor?

Iniesta should have won 2010.

Neuer should have won 2014.

Modric should win 2018.


Happy now