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true2god:
Is it muslims or christians that compiled the hadith? Are u ok?

Some hadith were written by kufars, unbeliever's, some are lies.....and some are truth...


That's why we classified it into weak and strong hadith..



Olodo

true2god:
If the narration is weak why is there no fatwa to condemn the hadith? If I publish thing against your prophet, in a public magazine, wont your mufti and ayatollas issue a fatwa for me to be killed for blasphemy against your prophet? Is there any official rejection of this hadith, by the council of islamic scholars, aside from classifying it as a weak hadith by some unkown and irrelevant muslims like you?

Take a chill pill, there are thousands of hadiths, without chain of narrators, which spoke well of your prophet and were all clasified sahih (original), why the inconsistency anytime the hadith place your prophet in a bad light? You muslims cant just cherry-pick what you want in the hadith, it is either you accept all hadiths that had been in circulation for hundreds of years or you discard the hadiths altogether.

Some muslims have already discarded the hadith and call themselves 'quran only' muslims. Why are you deceiving yourselve ignorantly?

You are a fool.. A disgrace to education...


Like I have always told you, venture into what you understand...


Hadith is not written during the lifetime of prophet Muhammad (saw), it tends to be corrupted by kufars and unbeliever's.. That's where the chain of narration comes in.. If the chain of narration is strong, we will accept it and vice versa..



This isn't about cherry picking... It's about knowledge and wisdom.. Knowing what is right from wrong is the real issue..


It's only Quran that has no doubt .. Because it was revealed from ALLAH ..



Any human works or written stuffs can't be completely flawless.. There will always be correction.. Why do you think bible is been reviewed or re print or versionalized... Is for correction.. They know that human wrote bible, and tends to have lots of corrections..




Hadith is not perfect book.. That's why we have weak and strong due to their authenticity..



Satisfied.. Tsw

Genesis 6:7 So the LORD said, “I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, man and animals and creeping things and birds of the heavens, for I AM SORRY that I have made them.”




CREATOR IS SORRY.... Imagine..

Exodus 32:14 So the LORD CHANGED His mind about the harm which He said He would do to His people.




CREATOR changed HIS mind... Only human can change his\her mind.. Is CREATOR human that HE will change HIS mind?

1 Samuel 15:35 And Samuel did not see Saul again until the day of his death, but Samuel grieved over Saul. And the LORD REGRETTED that he had made Saul king over Israel.

CREATOR regretted... .. Our CREATOR regretted.. This book called bible should be banned

Judges 1:19 And the LORD was with Judah, and he took possession of the hill country, but he could not drive out the inhabitants of the plain because they had chariots of iron.




This verse is saying CREATOR isn't all powerful.. Imagine stupid and insane claim against CREATOR

Thou shall not KILL, why would GOD KILL HIS only alleged son according to bible just to save SINNERS?


Why didn't GOD tell Jesus to preach to those SINNERS to repent?




Thou shall not kill is commandment of CREATOR..

For bible to claim that Jesus, the alleged son of God was sent to earth to die for our sins is a great accusation on CREATOR. A great lie.. A blasphemy..

nasiayam:
The Bible degrades the Prophets of God by vilification:

For a Muslim, many of the claims to be found in the Bible with regard to the prophets of God, and even God himself, are monstrous and preposterous. One is hard pressed to find a single prophet or messenger who was not a drunkard, an idolater, an adulterer, guilty of Inbreeding, a liar, and so forth.

The Bible practically overflows with such stories from almost every Tom, Dick, and Harry. The messengers of God are even made to be guilty of multiple cases of adultery and worse. Abraham (pbuh) is alleged to be a liar and worse (Genesis 12:13). Noah (pbuh) a drunkard (Genesis 9:21). Lot (pbuh) a drunkard and guilty of Inbreeding (Genesis 19:30-38). Solomon (pbuh) a worshipper of idols in his old age (1 Kings 4-9), King David (pbuh) commits adultery with Uriah's wife and then murdered her husband (2 Samuel 11:3-4,15-18), David's son Ammon is guilty of Inbreeding and the rape of his half sister (2 Samuel 13:14). Aaron (pbuh) fashions an idol (the golden calf) for the Jews to worship (Exodus 32:1-4), to name but a very few of the many allegations to be found in the current Bible

Bro, please explain and expantiate it all like am doing.. Lets expose this satanic stuff

Genesis 2:2

Genesis 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he RESTED on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.




CREATOR RESTED... RESTED... RESTED.. CREATOR THAT CREATED REST RESTED..

Imagine that

Psalms 78:65...

Psalms 78:65 Then the LORD AWAKED AS ONE OUT OF SLEEP, and LIKE A MIGHTY MAN that SHOUTETH BY REASON OF WINE.



CREATOR AWAKE, DO CREATOR DO SLEEP??

comparing CREATOR with a mighty man.. Imagine that ... Reason of a wine

COMPARING CREATOR, OUR CREATOR WITH A MAN THAT TALKS DUE TO THE INTOXICATION OF WINE.. (DRUNKARD)


CALLING OUR CREATOR A DRUNKARD..

I will be writing the insults bible said about CREATOR IN BLOCK LETTERS.






2nd Samuel Verse 22..7-20




2 Samuel 22:7 In my distress I called upon the LORD, and cried to my God: and he did hear my voice out of his temple, and my cry did enter into his EARS.

Is CREATOR HUMAN BEING THAT HE CAN HAVE EARS? We can only attribute characteristics that CREATOR told us of HIMSELF only to HIM. Is there anywhere in bible CREATOR SAID HE HAS EARS?



22:8 Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations of heaven moved and shook, because he was wroth.



22:9 There went up a SMOKE out of HIS NOSTRILS and FIRE out of HIS MOUTH devoured: coals were kindled by it.



CREATOR has a nostril and mouth and smoke and fire went up from them respectively.... Is CREATOR a dragon? How can someone be so brave to be attributing such disgusting and evil characteristic to CREATOR..




22:10 He bowed the heavens also, and came down; and darkness was under his feet



CREATOR has a feet, CREATOR came down from heaven.. And darkness under HIS feet.. Darkness? Really?. Imagine this insultive and gullible words attached to CREATOR



. 22:11 And He RODE upon a cherub, and did fly: and HE was seen upon the wings of the wind.


CREATOR RODE and was seen flying.. Attributing humanistic qualities to CREATOR




22:12 And HE made DARKNESS PAVILIONS ROUND ABOUT HIM, dark waters, and thick clouds of the skies.


attributing darkness with CREATOR, CREATOR IS ONLY OF LIGHT


22:13 Through the brightness before him were coals of fire kindled.


22:14 The LORD thundered from heaven, and the most High uttered HIS VOICE.




22:15 And he sent out arrows, and scattered them; lightning, and discomfited them.


22:16 And the channels of the sea appeared, the foundations of the world were discovered, at the rebuking of the LORD, at the blast of the breath of HIS NOSTRILS..

If you believe that there is CREATOR who created everything that exists... Then you must have no reason to accrue disrespect or insult to the CREATOR ....In moral sense and religious teachings, CREATOR should and must be talked about in a high esteem manners........ BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE IN BIBLE.



BIBLE INSULTED OUR CREATOR SO MANY TIMES. I DONT KNOW WHY CHRISTIANS CANT SEE THIS IN THEIR BIBLE BUT WE WILL SHOW THEM..



YOU MUST LEAVE THIS RELIGION IF YOU TRULY LOVE YOUR CREATOR....





Any moderator reading this should move this to front page.... Open people eyes and save people from their ignorance.....

true2god:
Sunan Abu Dawud 2126, “A man from the Ansar called Basrah said: ‘I married a virgin woman in her veil. When I entered upon her, I found her pregnant. (I mentioned this to the Prophet).’ The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: ‘She will get the dower, for you made her vagina lawful for you. The child will be your slave. When she has begotten (a child), flog her’ “.

A good Muslim marries a woman, thinking her a virgin, then finds out that she is pregnant. Muhammad – divinely inspired –then tells him to treat the woman as if she were a sexx slave and flog her after she is delivered of the child while the child will be a slave to the man.

We all know that islamic society is governed by what is written in the quran, the narrations of the hadith (about the prophet) and the sunnah of the islamic prophet. Sunah Abu Dawud is one of the trusted islamic source with regard to the life-styles of the islamic prophet and mohammed is the embodiment of perfections and the last and seal of the prophets that muslims are expected to follow (his foot-steps).

On this particular issue, as a christian, I think what the islamic prophet advised concerning how this pregnant woman should be treated is wrong. There should have been a better way to manage the situation than enslaving an unborn child and flogging the mother (after she would have given birth) supposedly for fornication.

Hmmmm... No let me abuse you.. Let me just say its your ignorance.. But still we in 21st century, why can't you do research on something before you Post... That shows you lack knowledge and wisdom..





Well, you quoted hadith with no narration chain... This hadith is daif.. Weak hadith.


Hadith is the saying and deeds of prophet Muhammad(saw) written by other people. And we Muslims are told to allow and accept hadith with strong chain of narration from people close to prophet Muhammad (saw)..


This hadith is either weak or it's fake hadith..






To answer your question.... #go read the 10 commandments of moses and emphasize on knowing more on the adultery part#

That's your assignment..



I won't be giving you fools straight answes again.. Na assignment I go dey turn ur questions to for you...





You might say why Bible, because bible is written on rumours. 90% lie, 10% Truth. Among that 10% is the answer to your question

Am just seeing the title of this thread ni sha...


#laughing#

Wahala wa o..



This Christians and lies sha..



Ma go read the post come show una lies

[quote author=unphilaz post=43021324][/quote]What is this one saying... What you saying is not part of islam.. In fact mi o gbo ri..



Be like say this na una new lie about Islam...

STUDY THE PHOTO ATTACHED TO THIS ARTICLE.



I drew this to illustrate who should be blamed for the unrest in the world. So many times, I have seen atheists and some agnostics who clamour for the eradication of religions from this planet. One of the major rationale behind this is that so many wars, so many killings had been carried out in the name of religion. We may then ask, "Is religion at fault?".



As a matter of fact, all religions enjoin being in good terms with one's neighbours, feeding the poor, etc. The problem starts when religion is mixed with politics, greed, ego, will to control or dominate (seeking power). If a country that does not separate the religion from the state goes to war in order to protect her state, few would see it from a political angle but they resort to blaming the religion.


Atheists also do not stop blaming God for the problems in the world. They say since God can do everything and loves us, why is he allowing suicide bombers and other perpetrators of evil carry out their actions? This is a very ridiculous claim. How can you blame what you believe does not exist?. Claims of this kind drove me to make this illustration. Now, let us study the image.
"R " in the photo stands for Religion. Imagine a man who owns four slaves. He calls on them one day and say" My slaves, I am leaving this my garden into your care, do whatever you want on it,this garden will provide you with food, medicine etc. By this, the man commits the affairs of the garden into the hands of the slaves.


Imagine if one of the slaves thinks, "How can I bring these three other slaves under me?. He then succeeds in making stones and stones one of the slaves. He now says to the other slaves," anything I say, obey, lest I break your head with stones ". This explains the Genesis of world problems.


Imagine if the slave who was stoned then says," Am I a fool?, by every means, I must rule ". With this thought, after much trials, he eventually manufactures a cutlass. He then cuts a tree with the cutlass and says to the other first one," give up your stones "and to the three in general," If I say anything, obey lest I cut off your dead like I cut down that three ". This would make the other slaves subjected to him.


Now imagine if another slave now says," someone invented stone, another cutlass, how can I dispossess this slave of his cutlass ". He then makes researches and afterwards makes a gun. Happy with his invention, he goes on to test the gun in the presence of the three slaves by shooting a goat in the garden. He then says," can you guys see? Your stone cannot kill me, you need to near me before you use your cutlass, I will just shoot you guys from here and that's your end. Now, hand over the stones and cutlass. Can you now see they have stones, cutlass and gun?


Now, imagine if the fourth slave now thinks , "I was not born to serve my mates". With this thought, he then begins to find a way to make them subjected to him. After much ado, he eventually manufactures bomb. In the presence of the other slaves, he then throws a bomb in the midst of five animals and in the twinkle of an eye, only fragments of the animals could be seen. He then says, "How many persons can a bullet kill at once?? One, right? I'll strap this bomb on myself, detonate it and that's our end.
This is exactly where the world got it wrong. God didn't make bombs, guns and other arms, man did, why then blame God?


Is it the man's fault to have left his slaves with freewill or the slaves' fault which is a result of their being drunken with the opium of power?

The man represents God while the slaves represents man. So, when you check the image, you see an avatar below the "R" with the inscription God. There are four other avatars "mankind". Below them is the process of stoning, using cutlass, gun and bomb.

There are so many things God does not interfere in. God doesn't interfere in you lighting your gas. God doesn't interfere in how much is the cost of petrol. Man determines what colour of clothes he wants to wear. Man determines if he wants to steal or not. Man is solely responsible for his actions and on the day of recompense, he would be called to question and there's no way man can be justified of God.


God gave us freewill. He doesn't sit on it. God says don't lie, don't steal. Yet we are free to lie or steal,God doesn't stop us from doing whatever we want to do but the end, he knows, and the consequences of good or bad we do, God will reward us. However, there are some human actions that have paranormal interference to show how majestic and wonder doing God is.

God controls air. He retains the air for us to breath but he's not responsible for air pollution.
God controls the weather and seasons.
And God is He who causes us to die.
In the Image, you have


W_____WA
WA______WE


This means, once upon a time, people make weapons for fight wars but nowadays, we create wars to sell weapons...


To be continued

try to be practicing it too

Richirich713:
This is now funny

U want me just to take some random dude on Google word and just accept it as long as it agrees with the Quran.

I don't know his surname or his knowledge of the bible.

I'm not even sure his name is Alex, in fact to think of it I think his name ain't Alex.

its your choice.. belief what you want.. I have explained the best I can .. you are on your own

Richirich713:
This is now funny

U want me just to take some random dude on Google word and just accept it as long as it agrees with the Quran.

I don't know his surname or his knowledge of the bible.

I'm not even sure his name is Alex, in fact to think of it I think his name ain't Alex.

its your choice.. belief what you want.. I have explained the best I can .. you are on your owb

baba alawo

OYO lo wa

Blackfire:
how far my brother?

@facheux did Allah wrote the quran with his hand and drop it for mohamed... Or a spirit dictate it for mohamed who dictate it to his mujahadins .... Or they were things he heard from other religion viz Hindus, Christians, Jews, zoroastans,in mecca and when he used to go on a business trip for khadijat to Syria , which he fine tuned to suit his own personal agenda? .

@deathstroke007 am still waiting for the bible verse that says the mark on mohamed's shoulder proves his prophethood... Do i need to wait till next year?.
Blackfire is here.

which mark on prophet Muhammad (saw)...what's this one saying?

truthmans2012:
You dabbled into a subject you have no knowledge of.

Abraham was commanded by God to circumsise and also for his son. The Jews believed because they were circumsised being Abraham descendant, they are automatically qualified for salvation. Paul was telling them circumcision is not enough qualification for salvation.

no no no no... you wrong.. Paul preached against circumcision .. if you were circumcised ...that means no salvation. if you are not circumcised .. there's salvation..

Keenysbojan:
In 2 Corinthians chapter 3 vs 6 says
Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Which mean you can't interpret the bible with your own knowledge but with the knowledge given to you by the Holy Spirit, I don't argue with Muslims when they quote the bible because I know that they don't have the spiritual understanding

laughing.. last resort for Christians is holy spirit.. rubbish, holy spirit will make you understand the biography of prophets written by unknown people.. it's just an ordinary book...


#holy spirit wey dey on top Paul and he still get beheaded and beaten by Jews when he preached for them to dump the 10 commandments

Amberon:
shut up and focus on your pedophile religion. Religion of bombers. that's why out of the ten most dangerous countries in the world, 9 are Muslim countries. You should be ashamed.

hypocrite

Richirich713:
Nope I'm not from above, I'm of this world.



Nope the translation all good.




A aramaic bible that was translated by using a Greek manuscript ? I really hoped this ain't that guy named Alex u were talking about some time ago, the Guy with no surname or degree or diploma or anything to qualify as a bible scholar.




Jesus used I Am to contrast between Abraham's beginning with his lack of a beginning.

Here Jesus makes it again clear he always existed.

And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began. (John 17:5)

you very funny , so you as a member of a tribe, you need degree to translate your own language to English? #lol#

Richirich713:
Nope I'm not from above, I'm of this world.



Nope the translation all good.




A aramaic bible that was translated by using a Greek manuscript ? I really hoped this ain't that guy named Alex u were talking about some time ago, the Guy with no surname or degree or diploma or anything to qualify as a bible scholar.




Jesus used I Am to contrast between Abraham's beginning with his lack of a beginning.

Here Jesus makes it again clear he always existed.

And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began. (John 17:5)

God has glorified every single one of us before the world began... that's what we called destiny

promisechuks:
Why are you so confused about Jesus?

Haven't you seen the verse that Jesus said so?

Whether he said it once or not, does it still change the fact that he is the son of God in flesh.

Jesus said: "before abraham, I am".

are you not son of God in flesh? if you truly know your bible, you will know you are...




and the Bible verse you quote is wrong

Richirich713:
There's need to do, Jesus is both the Son of Man and Son of God, all I got to do is believe what Jesus says.




I don't claim Jesus is Son of God cuz of his birth. Jesus always existed meaning he is the Eternal Son of God.

"He said to them, ‘You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.’" (John 8:23-24)

"Your father Abraham rejoiced that he would see my day. He saw it and was glad.’ So the Jews said to him, ‘You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?’ Jesus said to them, ‘Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham came into being, I AM.’
(John 8:56-58)

is Jesus only from the human from above? where are you from? not from above? tsw



and the translation of the I Am was mistranslated....


that's the correct translation..

56. “Abraham, your father, was satisfied to see my Day, and he saw [it] and was delighted.” 57. The Jews said to him, “But you are not even fifty years [old] and [yet] you have seen Abraham?!” 58. Eashoa told them, “Amen, amen, I am telling you, if Abraham had never been born, I am [the One] who Comes [the Omnipresent Allaha]!”




quoted from Aramaic bible(Jesus own language)



If Jesus was never born, I will still come onto this world... so by jesus saying if Abraham isn't born, him(jesus) will till come into this world as advocate, as prophet, as representative of Allah(God)

promisechuks:
Bear in mind that John was among the VERY close discples of jesus, at that time.

Jesus was not sent to write books, NO!, but to save mankind.

So that's why the bible was written by his disciples and Paul who had a personal encounter with jesus.

hypocrite.. Paul never see or know Jesus.. and it's not even john that wrote chapter of john.. but unknown writer...if its really john, there won't be contradictions in his account

oooh.. that's what you wanna say... ok.. let's talk about Jesus words... go calculate how many times he called himself son of man and son of God..



then tell me, if you claim Jesus is son of God because of his birth, tell me what Malachi is to God then

olodo ni e... you simply don't understand simple English.. the cup(trouble) was passed and proved by Psalms