₦airaland Forum

conductor66:
Will pigs agree? Anything that will seperate them from Fulani herdsmen an the bandaged head sultan of sokoto is haram

Go and free yourself first before you talk about other people

Nowenuse:
No, i think you should list the European nations that are more progressive and peaceful than Belgium and Switzerland! (Apart from Scandinavian countries).

There is no country in Europe that is less progressive and peaceful that Belgium and Switzerland. Unless of course you are talking about the terrorist attacks some of them are going through, but those attacks are caused by immigrants.

motherfucker:
No Nigerian will give up their ethnic identity.

The problem is not identity entirely but refusal to carry everyone along. How can a president open his dirty mouth and call some people 97% and other 5%? How can he authorize the killing of Shia muslim, how can he embark on attack of Tompolo and co when he knows the repercussions...

GEJ on the other hand only took boko haram serious when it became apparent that he may lost the election. He opened his silly mouth and said stealing is not corruption and so many other vices that he spearheaded.

If you give me a chance, it's best these elites be executed. The true hero of this country is one willing to kill all of them one by one, kill every member of their cult, wether from PDP camp or APC camp...kill everyone who controls this country and watch normalcy engulf the entire country... that is the only way to reset the country.

Any other thing, na rubbish.

No bro, killing the leaders will change nothing. Let me ask you a question and i want you to be sincere with you answer. If you are given the opportunity to lead your state, will you embezzle money or not?

Ilemona93:
If tribalism and religious sentiment can be erase from this country will be Number best country in d world

Ala nla leyi

Nowenuse:
I keep on mentioning Tanzania because Nationality was radically promoted over tribe there with Swahili as the unifying language and culture for all tribes and it worked perfectly well.
Today in Tanzania, tribal differences are extinct, even though they have up to 50 tribes there, they all see themselves as one. Tribe means nothing to them, anyone trying to promote tribalism there is virtually seen as a mad person. So, it is very possible for Nationalism to be promoted over tribalism, if the right steps are taken.

I said the North is united (the core-north especially) and not really the entire middlebelt. well, let me say northern muslims. Your claims to core-northern unity of oil holds no water because the region was united before oil was discovered.
It's also not about Hausa being the single majority group. Igbos were also the single majority group of the old Eastern region, but why is there no strong bond btw the Igbos and other Eastern minorities? I think this was simply because the Igbos failed to radically promote regionalism and regional identity unlike the way the Northerners radically promoted Arewa.

Is Kanuri boko haram a tribal issue? Nawa for you o.

How many tribes are in the core north? Have you been to North to know that they are peaceful there?
See mr, i am a Yoruba man and i am not ready to let go of my culture, Language, and tradition because of a British experiment caled Niger-Area.
I will rather will Yorubas leave Nigeria and develop at our pace.

Nowenuse:
They do not get along, then how come their nation is still very peaceful and progressive than many other mono-ethnic European nations?

List the mono-ethnic European nations

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wickyyolo:
My mother has been telling not to marry Nigerian woman. Now I can see why

Your mother is from where? Madagascar?

Crap

Proudlyngwa:
Tribalism might be nature But Tribal bigotry is not.
And one thing too, nature can be abused.

What has being a tribal bigot got to do with the topic?

Proudlyngwa:
Tribalism might be nature But Tribal bigotry is not.
And one thing too, nature can be abused.

What has being a tribal bigot got to do with the topic?

Nowenuse:
What about Switzerland & Belgium? Are they mono-ethnic? NO, yet they are even more peaceful and progressive than most mono-ethnic European nations.

Belgium is not monoethnic but the indigenous french and dutch speaking tribes do not like themselves. They have been able to caution themselves a little due to
(1) The two tribes have big brothers in seperate nations.
(2) There are just three ethnic groups in Belgium namely: (a) French making up 30 percent of the country, (b) Dutch ethnic making up 58-60 percent of the country, (c) German ethnic making up 1 percent.
The French and Dutch speaking people dont get along

Nowenuse:
Seriously, why are you behaving like a bitter teenager? Can't you speak in a mature manner void of sentimental/emotional outburst?

Tribalism can be eradicated in an ethnically diverse country, yes, it happened in Tanzania. It also is the case in much of Northern Nigeria.
If religion, regionalism or Nationality is promoted over ethnicity, watch tribalism die a natural death.

You cannot promote Nationalism over tribalism. Tribalism is someone's love for his/her tribe. Why do you keep mentioning Tanzania? What about other African countries? Lols! Northern Nigeria? You are joking right? The North only seem united because(1) Hausas are the only largest ethnic group unlike the south where we have 2
(2) They are united for two things which are Crude oil and access to sea! They know that without the south, things will not go easy for them.
The north are not united in anyway. You have not heard of the crises betweed the Tivs and Fulanis? What of Kanuri's boko haram?
You cant promote Nationality above someone else's native language and culture. If it was that easy, then Nigeria would have suceeded. Even the Hausas that shout "one Nigeria" everywhere wont encourage such bullshhit!

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Started in 2008, the company got off to a good start by seeking out the best expertise to train its staff. Shoe-making experts fromSpainwere brought in to do the training. The company also imported top-quality machinery fromItalyandSpainto make sure its operations were modern and efficient.These first, smart moves have meant the company is able to run an efficient and high-skilled operation inNigeriawhile also making its products to international standards.

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NOETHNICITY:
What do u plan to do with the Ijaws in the oil rich part of Ondo, Ogun and Lagos?
For ur info the Ijaws ve already rejected to live under any form of oduduwa republic.
I hope u know this?

Ijaws are not indigenes of Ogun, Lagos, and Ondo. So i give no ffuuckk about them

We no longer want restructuring. Disintegration is better

obailala:
who told you European countries are perfectly split along ethnic lines?

Many European countries are split along ethnic lines. Germany and Austrians are same Germans. Italy, Norway, Iceland, Greece, Malta, Poland. Czech republic, Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, ireland e.t.c Even the uk is split along ethnic lines. England for English people, northern Ireland for Irish people, wales for welsh Ethnic.
So yeah, most European countries are either mono-ethnic or have one ethnic making up about 90 percent of the population. Some Asian countries are also like this
Yoruba, Igbos, and Hausas are very large Nations that can survive on their own.

obailala:
And who do you think should promote and ensure that unity if not the leaders?... Who do you even think creates and fuels that disunity if not for the same greedy diabolic self centred leaders?... The leaders currently throw up 'the other tribe' as the source of the problems when addressing their people; as long as these leaders aren't checked, even when you split the country into 100 parts, the same leaders woupd still find a way of blaming the other tribe/group/region/state/LGA etc and they still promote the same disunity even on a micro level.

Leader cannot promote unity. The society can. Nigeria has never been united since its creation. We only deceive ourselves about "one Nigeria". If we are one, we would not need to say it. I have never heard of "one Yoruba" before.
It is high time we face reality and stop deceiving ourselves.

NOETHNICITY:
Forget it, tribalism is not nature.

tribalism is local.
hence Africa continues irredeemably on its way to backwardness.

tribal attachment brings nothing gudto the table.
Breeds hate and nepotism.
I detest tribalism
and I hate pple who promote it

People dont promote tribalism. Tribalism is nature. Why are European countries not diverse like African's? This is because they want to reduce tribalism, hate, nepostism and promote peace and prosperity. European countries are split through ethnic lines

obailala:
It may be caused by nature, but it is the duty of leaders to wisely tone down its destructive effects. In 1999, Nigeria was not up to a tenth as tribally and religiously divided as it is today. Are you then suggesting that human nature has evolved between 1999 and 2017?... The answer is a blatant NO! Tribalism has increased in geometric proportions over the years because of the diabolic greed and ineptitude of leaders who directly promote it for their self interests. If that greed and ineptitude is not tackled, even if you divide Nigeria into 1000 parts, each of those 1000 constituent parts would still have the same elements of destructive tribalism.

Why will the leaders try to promote tribalism if we are united? This does not make sense to me. If we are united, then the leaders will not have to use our disunity to their advantage.
Yes you are right. We have stereotypes in Yorubaland, but they wont be as worse as Nigeria's. We Yorubas speak same language, practice same culture, originate from same ancestors, bear same names e.t.c
You cant eradicate tribalism in Nigeria.
We are Naturally not united.
We must accept this

obailala:
Like I said before, tribalism can only be solved by sensible leadership and maturity from the people being led. The current wave of tribalism and religious discrimination which reached a peak since 2015 was ignited by politician. When a politician in search of votes denigrates other tribes in order to force his tribesmen to vote him, he sows a seed of discord in the minds of the people which he is unable to uproot even after he has won and gotten into office. Left to the ordinary man on the streets, he doesn't care when he associates with other common men from other tribes in the market, the discord is usually fuelled by leaders.

I must draw it to your attention once again that separating a country is never a solution to tribalism because you might just have to divide and divide and divide like a thousand times even down to family level and you'd realise the problem still isn't solved. I do not know much about the Yoruba nation, but telling you don't have internal segregations would be a bloody lie. Creating a Yoruba only nation would only amplify the internal tribal/religious/cultural boundaries which exists within.

A leader does not have to make tribalistic statements before he gets support from his tribesmen. The leaders you accuse are products of the society that you and i were raised. We are all tribalistic and this is fact! There is nothing wrong with that though if you ask me. Tribalism is one's love for his tribe. Tribalism is same with patriotism.
If as a Yorubaman, i contest for presidency against an Igboman, i dont need to make hate speeches against Igbos before i get the trust of my people. I also do not need anybody to tell me the Igbo man will defeat me in his land.
Tribalism is not caused by leaders.
Tribalism is Nature.

freshest4live:
Are we the only country with ethnic differences?

We dont have to be the only ethnically diverse country before we know the damage it has and will cause us in the nearest future. Yoruba, Igbos, and Hausas are very large nations that can survive on their own.

obailala:
1. Nigeria isnt the only ethnically diverse country.
2. Yoruba, Igbo and Hausa are not the only tribes in Nigeria (just incase you have forgotten).

Leadership wisdom and maturity are the only things that can kill tribalism. If you seperate Biafra today (i.e. the old Biafra which includes Efik, Ibibio, Ikom, Ogoja, Annang, Calabari, Ikwerre, Anioma, Okrika, Izon, Ndoni etc.), without leadership wisdom and maturity on the part of the people, the menace of tribalism will still be fully blown; only difference is that the central Igbos would then be the biggest oppressors of the other over 50 tribes and there would be no other big tribes (i.e. Yoruba + Hausa) to 'compete' with the Igbos.

Even within the 5 states of the SE which have a fairly homogeneous language, we still actively see a lot of tribal/regional segregation. Was it not Abia state which sacked and refused to employ Imo and Anambra indigenes?... I had a lecturer in FUTO (a federal uni) who after decades of academic service, couldnt receive his professorships purely because he couldn't fit into the Imo state politics within the school (which at the time was even dominated by the Mbaise clique). Poor lecturer had to go back to his state's newly launched uni then (Anambra start uni at Uli) to work as part time, and that was where he eventually got his professorships. Similar story happened to my uncle who couldnt get his due promotions at Abia state university simply because he was from Imo. It took him to move to Imo state uni before he could get his due rights. You think that is not the same as tribalism?

Should I even start talking of the segregation within Imo state where some groups swore they would never let any Mbaise person smell Douglas house?... and of course, Mbaise people have been wailing over this issue for ages including during the last Ihedioha election which could have broken the trend.

What am I saying in essence?... Tribalism doesnt end with just Yoruba, Hausa and Igbo as so many people myopically view it. The moment you break those 3 apart, you'll then realise that within each group, there are still hundreds of subgroups that would still perpetuate the tribalism nonsense.

Once again, leadership wisdom and maturity from the people are the only things that can end tribalism; and not endless separations. You can keep calling it nonsense because you want secession (i.e. no more yoruba and hausa competition), but it doesnt still make your position the sensible one.

Biafra is Igbo people wahala not mine. I am a Yoruba person that supports Nigeria disintegration, and i do not want any minorities to go with us. Why? Because there will be tribalism if they join. In fact, one of the main reasons i want this country to split is because of our ethnic differences. Biafra will definitely suffer from tribalism because of the minorities that will join you.
Yoruba, Igbos, and Hausas should go seperate ways!

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Excellent! Yoruba no dey make noise

obailala:
If we are to follow the breakup route, then it would take 1001 breakups before tribalism would be eradicated reduced.

Maturity and application of wisdom is the only thing that can truly stop the negative effects of tribalism.

Another nonsense! You cant eradicate tribalism in an ethnically diverse country. It is not possible.
Let Yoruba, Igbos, and Hausa live apart.

Nowenuse:
And this is the bitter truth. The only way African nations can stop or fight tribalism is by officially banning every promotion of Ethnicity, Ethnic unions, festivals e.t.c.

This was exactly what Nyerere did in Tanzania that today tribalism is non-existent in Tanzania. Almost all Tanzanians today are nationalists, but this had to come at the expense of the extinction of their original native languages and cultures.

Ban ethnicity? You are the dumbest person i have known on Nairaland. Why should i let go of my pride because of a country created by the British? You are a big fool for writing nonsense!
Did i see you write African Nations? Can you list any country in Africa today that is qualified to be called a Nation?
The only way to stop tribalism is to let people who share same culture, language to live as one.
Simple!