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About 5 years ago if i remember correctly

Some smart alecs and overfed gluttons sit like queen bees on the altars in the church, and tell you to bring your money so that they tell God to give you more money. And you are not asking them why they are rather collecting money from you, why not offer same prayers to God so that God can give them money. If they so trust that God do provide money why are they so much relying on your money.
After MMM saga in nigeria, i gave up on the intellectual level of the average nigerians. Like pastor bakare said, nigerian christians hang their brains outside before entering the Church.

“Proportionate To Population, Nigeria Has A World Record Number Of Imbeciles” – Wole Soyinka

megasoul:
I usually don't comment on these kind of topics but I'll make an exception today.
IMO, heaven is a spiritual place and earth is a physical place. Heaven doesn't exist in the same realm as earth.
Again, let's assume heaven is actually up, that means earth should be enveloped inside of heaven, because it's a proven fact that the earth is spherical. As a result, up on one point of the earth is actually not same direction as up on another point. I mean an imaginary line drawn perpendicularly from Asia points to different direction from another drawn perpendicularly from Europe. All I'm trying to say is that in reality there is no common UP for mankind. People living on the greenwich meridian which is longitude 0" are standing at a right angle (90 degrees) relative to people living on longitude 90". It's the force of gravity that makes it possible for us to stand upright on the surface of the earth, and the brain gives us a sense of standing upright.
So if Heaven is actually up, then it has to be up around the entire earth just like earth's atmosphere and in that case we would be inside of it.

Wow, this analysis is deep and have scientific backing. It actually throw some doubt on the biblical story. The word "up" is relative to where you are on the earth surface. It saddens me deeply when folks come and be giving gibberish explanations to what they clearly dont understand. This story if it is true, is nothing but an allegory. I am a Civil/Structural engineer, i can tell you boldly that the load that will be created by such gigantic structure will be too much for the soil on which the structure would be standing. The failure of such structure at a no distant point is therefore inevitable. God clearly understood all these my explanation and wouldnt have been bothered by the people's attempts.

One thing is clear, both Islam and Christianity does not, by any stretch of imagination capture the true nature and extent of the being called God. Each world religion sees a part of him he chose to reveal to them. it will therefore be a great insult to localise the being called God to the myopic parlance of Christianity, Islam or any other religion for that matter. God by virtue of his existence transcends such. He created all and is for all.

This guy is pretty messed up. He deserves our collective sympathy.

His account has definitely been hacked. People should disregard this BS

This news is as fake as the word fake. Please disregard. Federal government has issued a rebuttal. Fake news everywhere.

Michael jackson along with this man were some of the legends that adorned my childhood. RIP prince you will surely be missed.

neocortex:
Just confess that you are an atheist

Don't you know that God works in a mysterious way

If jesus can raise the dead, will recharge(I assume you believed that) , will
recharge card be too difficult for him

Seriously? Are you kidding me, so it is true dumb people like this exist in Nigeria. Help! This guy urgently needs a brain transplant.

MzPecs:
Go for both!

Don't worry, your brethren now at 40 started the way you are now. Just be sure when you are 40 and still single, you don't start blaming your old grand mother or a spirit husband.

sam2020:
Yes, both HD and SD are on as fta

Thanks so much, with 90cm dish still? with the parameters you listed above?

Abeg gurus in the house, are MBC stations still showing at all? Please reply needed ASAP.

Good work nigerian soldiers. God be with you.

@op, are you my clone? Surely we are on a lonely road. What many people struggle to understand I do without much stress. I am extremely inquisitive and very techy, hardly any programming language I have not written and I learnt all myself. Studied civil engineering with a 2.1.Generally I don't believe everything people tell me, I find and figure it out myself religion inclusive. I think very differently from most people. I think hard every time like I would run mad. Sincerely this part get me scared most times. I strangely find thinking very easy and enjoyable. My mind is always preoccupied with how I will proffer solution to myriads of problems. Hard thinking comes to me naturally as breathing. Not a social person. My wife and children are my social circle. But sincerely I don't think I am better than other people. It is hard when people errorneously misconstrue your wanting to be alone as pride.
I have not reached my goal yet, but trust me I am on it. I will never give up until I get it. I don't do weed, I know if I do I will definitely run mad. My mind not me, is currently working on an idea on data compression techbology in the vicinity of 1. The tightest data compression feat humanly possible.

Above all no matter all you think you know somebody sure knows more than you do. This humbles me all the time.

This lady is cool. I really enjoy listening to her music. My favourite is her latest work, "Bed of Stones". I pray she nab a Grammy, she is the most likely artiste from this part of the world.

Are people still getting MBC stations using FTA. If yes how

Religion indeed is the opium of the masses. While great minds are busy trying to solve myriads of human problems; technology, reduction of hunger, innovation in different areas, the mind of the poor and the masses are ever preoccupied with such trivialities. No wonder blacks and Africans are the way they are. SMH

Thanks guys, seems i will have to upgrade my mpeg2 strong decoder to mpeg4. Learnt that mbc has migrated from nilesat 102 to nilesat 201 which only mpeg4 decoder can receive.

Hello gurus in the house. I live in kaduna and recently noticed that all my MBC Stations are no longer showing. I am not particularly knowledgeable about these stuffs but i think the size of my dish is 1m. and i use strong SRT 4663X Decoder. It was showing all the mbc stations well until maybe 3rd of march 2015. i ask one of my friends who also stays in kaduna and is using a latest decoder, he also said his mbc stations are no longer showing. Gurus in the house, Please what is happening? Are there other alternatives for viewing MBC? Thanks.

Haba, shey this guy dey repair phone ni

Does his father have one? All these kids you had better start reading your books. Maybe he bought it in your dreams. Private jet ko private moto ni. Fake lives everywhere, what they can never get in 20 years, they will forming big man. Boring.

Uc browser is the fastest browser in the world. The speed and data save is out of this world.

abdulkayus: The OP is right. When I was serving in one of d state in d east, some muslims do hide their name or their religion so as to avoid d stereotypes agaisnt muslim.
Am a muslim and nt a terrorist, God forbid for be to be a terrorist cos terrotist abode is hell if dey dont repent.
Islam os against killing of innocent souls.

Herein lies the whole problem. Following your logic, Islam only frown at killing innocent souls, in many other religions of the world, taking a human life is a sin. Because aside from consituted authority of the land, no one is permitted to take a human life whether innocent or otherwise.

Reading through the holy Quran, there are many instances where killing is sanctioned and actually demonstrated by prophet Muhammed. No matter how hard Muslims strive for peace, it will perpetually elude them. This is because the very foundation of Islam is built on the sword. The sword sign in the islamic logo is not a coincidence.

Muslims should stop deluding themselves quoting some part of the Quran and ignoring some other scary part of their holy text.

Reading through the holy Quran any Muslim that does not wage war against the christians and the Jews is not a Muslim but hypocrite. The same reason why Yoruba Muslims are considered hypocrites by their obviously more knowledgeable northern Hausa Muslims.

Let's face the truth and nothing but the truth, with hearts of conscience , In the holy Quran the word peace is relative

I have two advantages here I live in the north and I have read the Quran. . if any of you is looking for peace, trust me , you will not find it in the Quran, trust me.

For everybody information Islam and Muslims will play a very prominent role in the end time.

Continue your dawah, but in the name of whatever god you serve stop this global bombing and killings, please na beg I dey beg una.

Thanks buddy, thumbs up.

Abeg guys is it still working during the day time? abeg answer as I want to load it now.

Please guys is this MTN night plan still working during the day? Abeg answer as I want to subscribe now.

Many Christians will never understand the full import of the work of salvation which was completed by the death and resurrection of Jesus the Christ.

In Africa and most specifically Nigeria today, the hope of a better life for many people on earth here has been cleverly pinned on tithe by clever pastors. What many Nigerian Christians do not know is that tithing was never a part of the new testament church, and that the issue of tithing in the new testament crept back into the doctrine in the 1800s(19th century) in America .
Today in Nigeria and other parts of Africa, economy is bad, people are largely disillusioned, the hope of many dashed. Pentecostal Christianity, a largely materialistic variance of christian faith delude already frustrated people, giving them a false hope of God's blessing if they sow, vow and pay tithes. But the problem with this arrangement is that across all the pentecostal congregations, the pastors promising blessings to tithers are usually the most 'blessed'.
The poor and gullible middle class continue to pay tithe of their meagre earnings and the pastors continued to grow richer. The question some of the Nigerian Christians should begin to ask themselves is, why is it that in a large christian congregation, only the pastor and his family buy big things like the private jet etc etc. I can say categorically among the Nigerian pentecostal Christians, 90% of those who have private jets are the pastors! The remaining 10% are the super rich who most of the time acquire their jets before even coming to the church.

The bible say my people perish for lack of knowledge. The salvation work that Jesus did transcend materialism which is the hallmark of the present day church. The master himself says seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all other thing shall be added unto you. He also said it is impossible to serve God and mammon(money). Christianity in its most popular flavour now has lost its taste, but I believe the Lord is still preserving the remnant.

The good Lord will open our eyes of understanding in Jesus name.

Gombs: ^^
Wicked copy and paste


We are using our brains n scriptures, you go and do copy and paste. That's plagiarism and you are cheating

Whether copy and paste or not, read the biblical backed writing and see the futility of selling something that has no biblical backing for a new testament christian whatsoever. The catch however for a new testament christian is that we are required to give more than 10%. we are required to give our all in love to God acknowledging him as the owner of all we have. This include your properties, money, time, skills etc. as may be required of us in the church. And such monies should be used to further Gods kingdom and to cater for the poor in the church so that there will be none that lack among us in the church. This is the biblical new testament giving in the early church.

Tithing can best be appraised by considering its historical development within the biblical records. Once this is comprehended, everything concerning tithing can then be understood.The first striking fact concerning tithing is that the Scripture has remarkably littleto say about it prior to the Book of Leviticus written in the time of Moses. The first eleven chapters of Genesis (the first book of the Bible) cover a span of some 2,000 years. While sacrifices and several other rituals are mentioned, the subject of tithing never emerged as a topic of discussion.The initial illustration in the Bible about any tithing concerns the account of Abraham and Melchizedek in Genesis chapter 14. Following the slaughter of the kings, Abraham returned to central Palestine with his nephew named Lot, the other captives, and with a large amount of spoil that was taken from the northern kings (verses 16–17). Abrahamthen met Melchizedek and gave him a tenth of the spoil."He gave him tithes of all"(verse 20). The remainder of the captured goods was given to the king of Sodom (verses 21–24).Consider this action of Abraham. There is no agreement whatever with the law of tithing later revealed in the Book of Leviticus. Indeed, Moses required that the tithe be paid only on the increase of the land and animals (Leviticus 27:30–31). But with Abraham, he did not work to produce any of the spoil he had recovered. Spoil does not represent an increase from farms or ranches. There was no biblical teaching which showed that Abraham was required to give a tenth of the spoil to Melchizedek.Actually, much later in the time of Moses, the Israelites were informed what should be done with any spoil they might capture from their enemies such as that which Abraham captured in his day. Such spoil was not to be tithed as shown in the law of Moses. When the Israelites obtained spoil from the Midianites, Moses insisted that the priests receive 1/500thof the goods from those who had gone to war—not 1/10thas a tithe would require (Numbers31:9, 27–29). The Levites got more booty. They received 1/50thof the congregation’s half of the spoil (verse 30). Again, the law concerning "spoils" in war had nothing to do with the later ordained tithe.But let us again consider the action of Abraham. If Moses was recording in Genesis a universal law of tithing when he wrote about Abraham giving a tenth of his spoils to Melchizedek, why does he depart from that very law some 400 years later with a completely different set of figures? In truth, Abraham was notfollowing any law of tithing on spoil or on anything else. Abraham’s tenth was only in the nature of a voluntary (free will) offering of thanksgiving to God for the deliverance of his people from captivity.If more evidence of the voluntary nature of tithing is needed before the time of Moses, the account of Jacob’s tithing provides it."And Jacob vowed a vow, saying: ‘IfGodwill be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on, so that I comeback to my father’s house in peace, then shall the Lord be my God ... and of all that you shall give me I will surely give the tenth unto you."• Genesis 28:20–22[emphasis mine]If tithing were an inexorable law intended for all peoples and for all periods of time as many preachers state,this procedure of Jacob is truly a paradoxical case. This is because Jacobput the word "IF" into his contract he was making with God. That "IF" made the contract to be contingent on God performing something for Jacob. Jacob’s use of the word "IF" takes his contract away from being in the category of a well known universal law. No one treats known laws in such a fashion. That would be like a person saying to God: "Ifyou bless my businessduring the first six days of the week, thenI will close it and rest on the Sabbath." One does not slight the laws of God by putting the word"IF"at the beginning of them. But it would not be wrong to think in that fashion if a voluntary thanksgiving offering were under consideration. The "IF" in the vow makesthe tenth that Jacob said he would pay to be afree willoffering and his promise was even conditional. As clear as it can be, both Abraham and Jacob were the ones who set the parameters,not God!There is further proof that tithing as a universal principle wasnot in forcebefore the time of Moses. Look at the example of Jacob’s son Joseph. While in Egypt he was inspired to interpret Pharaoh’s dreams about seven full and seven lean years for harvests. As a result of Joseph’s wisdom and because the Spirit of God was in him (Genesis 41:38–39), Pharaoh made him ruler over all the land of Egypt. For seven years they gathered in the harvests and stored the grain. When the lean years came, theEgyptians used all their money to purchase some of the grain reserves (Genesis 47:14–15). They then sold Joseph all their cattle to buy the needed grain (verse 16). Finally, they even bartered their own bodies and all their land for food (verse 18–20).This meant that Pharaoh, through the advice of the patriarch Joseph, came to possess all things found in Egypt. At thispoint notice what Joseph did,"Then Joseph said unto the people, ‘Behold, I have bought you this day and your land for Pharaoh: lo, here is seed for you, and ye shall sow the land. And it shall come to pass in the increase, that you shall give the fifth part unto Pharaoh, and four parts shall be your own, for seed of the field, and for your food, and for them of your households, and for food for your little ones.’"• Genesis 47:23–24This command was nothing like that given by Moses some 200 years later. Moses stated that a tenth of the increasehad to be set aside for the Levites. But Joseph said no such thing. He declared that two-tenths (a fifth part) was to be Pharaoh’s for his own personal use, while all the remainder went to the people. Joseph did not give any priesthood a part of the increase that some so-called universal law of tithing might require. Actually, the priests of thetime had their own lands which had not been sold to Pharaoh. These produced enough food for their own sustenance and no tithes were ever exacted from them (verses 22, 26).Joseph in his day knew nothing of any so-called universal tithing laws—simply because none existed. On the other hand, since Joseph was one who respected his father Jacob with utmost esteem, he would have known about Abraham’s tithing example and the conditional tithe of Jacob, yet in Egypt Joseph avoided using any tithe. This was not an act of disobedience because he was "a man in whom the Spirit of Godis"(Genesis 41:38). Joseph said nothing about giving a tenth of the increase to any priesthood, simply because there was no universal tithing law prior to Moses.Moses and TithingIn the time of Moses, God finally ordained a tithing system as part of the laws he gave to Israel. There were, however, several events involving the payment of monies for sacred purposes which occurred before the introduction of tithing. It is worthwhile to consider them in this historical survey about the origin of tithing.Just prior to Israel’s exodus from Egypt, God told them to spoil the Egyptians (Exodus 12:35). Spoil is the booty of war.Since God as Israel’s military commander had won the war over the Egyptians in Egypt, God told Israel to take the booty (the spoil) that now belonged to them. There is no evidence that the Israelites once they obtained thespoil gave a tenth of it to anyone. For one thing, there was at that time no authorized priesthood among the Israelites to take tithe on God’s behalf. And even if there were, the accumulationof these things was reckoned as spoil of war, not income or compensation. Moses ordained a different set of laws for spoil, as previously explained. Thus, the law of tithing was not in operation when the Israelites first left Egypt.Then, about three months later at Mount Sinai, the Old Covenant with the Ten Commandments was first given to the Israelites (Exodus chapter 20). It also embraced many other laws recorded in four chapters—unto the end of Exodus chapter 23. These were laws of the Old Covenant which Israel promised to observe (Exodus 24:3–. These four chapters contained nothing less than the basic constitution which was intended to govern Israel. The Bible callsthe contents of those four chapters the Book of the Covenant. Remarkably, thereis not one hint of tithing as a requirement in this basic teaching of theOld Covenant. Some might consider this an oversight on Moses’ part because there surely was a need to finance the new national existence of Israel.True enough, Moses was well aware thatthe accumulation of revenues was needed to perform the Old Covenant requirements that had been recently ordained at Mount Sinai. Tithing, however, was not the method that Moses used at this early period. He had another way of securing the necessary funds to operate the civil and religious institutions associated with the new nation of Israel. Moses simply asked for some free will offerings. When Moses petitioned Israel for money to build the Tabernacle, here is what happened:"Men and women, as many as werewillinghearted, brought bracelets, and earrings, and rings, and tablets, all jewels of gold and ... the children of Israel brought awillingoffering unto the Lord ... They brought yet unto him[Moses]free offeringsevery morning ... the stuff they had was sufficient for all the work to make it, and too much."• Exodus 35:22, 29; 36:3, 7[italics mine]The Israelites had taken much spoil from the Egyptians. When it became necessary to raise funds to build the Tabernacle, Moses asked the Israelites to givefree will offeringsfrom these and other possessions. The Old Covenant society which Moses established at Mount Sinai, whether religious or secular, was supported solely (at first) byfree will contributions.This is precisely the way the early Christians financed their activities (we will see this later). There was no law of tithing that was being applied in the building of the holy sanctuary (the Tabernacle). As a matter of fact, tithing was not understood as a necessary thing by Moses until almost a year later (Leviticus 27:30–33).In concluding this historical survey, it should be noted that for the first two thousand and five hundred years of human history (as recorded in the biblical narrative) the only two instancesof tithing were involvingfree willofferings of Abraham and Jacob. And even in the first period of the Exodus, Moses only required free will contributions from the Israelites. But true enough, a year passed in the Wilderness, then Moses saw the need for a law of tithing. Let us now look in the next chapter at the laws that Moses ordained for Israel.