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I think Tnubu will be the first presidential candidate to lose Lagos, Kano, Kaduna, Katsina and still emerge as the winner.

Very impressive.

Does the EU feed Nigeria.

They can express whatever views they like.

EU is a collection of old, irrelevant countries whose views Nigeria barely notice.

France: old, tired country that is in a multi-decade decline. Neck - deep in debt.

UK: same as France. Lives on taxes & borrowing.

Greece: Basket case.

EU needs Nigeria, not vice versa.

The US is relevant to Nigeria, so have some influence here.

China is relevant to Nigeria, but it doesn't interfere in Nigeria's internal matter.

EU is toothless.

Op seem to be furious his preferred candidate is not winning the election. Fair enough.

But the forceful idea that if your preferred candidate does not win an election, the sky must fall in on Nigerian and Nigerians is extreme and over the top.

If voters do not share your preference for a candidate, well, that's democracy.

In a few years, there will be another opportunity for whoever is interested to have a go.

senatordave1:
Atiku can still win

From which states will he get the votes to catapult him to a winning position?

There's a reason PDP and Labour are rejecting result collation- they already have their own estimate of the final results. They will have done their own internal collation.

APC definitely has a sophisticated internal collation system that takes in information from their agents all over the country. They will already know they have won. That is why they are quiet, waiting for INEC to complete collation and announce the winner.

Petty and unnecessary.

Kicking someone when they are down - not nice.

Respecting other people is so easy and fulfilling. Why people choose abuse and insult instead is perplexing.

Fayose, a senior member of society who sets a terrible example.

Tinubu is now unassailable.

Tinubu has the broadest spread of voters across the country.

Every region, every state.

Isn't this the same Plateau where Labour party is supposed to get 1.2million votes.

Doesn't look like that's going to happen.

It increasingly looks like Tinubu has won this election.

Lagos too.

Who would have thought PDP would not get 25% in Lagos.

Several South East states too. Shocking.

It could be a very long road back to the top for the PDP.

Injera:
If Nigeria divide, IF, who will Edo join

From election results to 'if Nigeria divides, who will edo join".

Everyone needs to calm down.

It is just an election. People should let INEC declare results.

Is APC likely to get 25% in Abia and Imo?

Even the votes from the North are super low compared to previous elections.

Turn out in the SW is shocking.

I think most people register to vote and collect PVC because they see it as an official government document they can use as ID.

Truth is, most people have given up on Nigerian politicians. They just don't believe or trust them.

garfield1:
But am not happy with ekiti results.turnout is low and atiku has gotten 30%.what nonsense?

I am not even sure PDP got up to 30% in the governorship election that happened only a few months ago.

It is amazing that over 80,000 people in Ekiti believed that a Northerner succeeding Buhari suits them more than a Southern president.

But thats democracy. Freedom to choose.

CutieKing:
Pdp...3 sw,5 nc,6 ss,6 ne,7 nw.
Total 27 states.

Apc....6 sw,4 ss,5 nc,5 ne,7 nw.
Total 27 states..

This is the fair 25% spread projection

PDP may get 25% in all SS states.

APC may not get 25% in 4 SS states.

In previous elections, I don't believe there was any state in the South where PDP did not get 25% of votes cast.

In this election, it is likely that PDP will not get 25% in several Southern states.

Hmm...

O serious.

Aso Rock cabal must be scratching their heads wondering

Their CBN cash confiscation strategy doesn't seem to be working against Tinubu.

They all look glum and sad. Eyaa!

Their ill-advised support for the CBN/Buhari currency policy and the resulting backlash against PDP's position has sapped any momentum from Atiku and the Okowa.

Just look at Okowa's face.

It is as though they now know they face an uphill task winning the election.

The assurances their friends in Aso Rock gave them about the election has fallen to pieces.

The Supreme Court ordered that the old currency should co-exist with the new notes.

The old notes remain a legal tender.

The Governor has broken no law.

That was the first time I heard Mr Obi speak. He did not come across as having the acumen to lead Nigeria at this time. Dull, average, theoretical. Probably a good man, but Nigeria needs more than that now.

I haven't seen Atiku"s session.

Tinubu's session was riveting. Yes, he is slow to put his points across, but boy, he has very practical and intelligent ideas. A courageous, confident man who is willing to do the unorthodox to fix some of our problems. Age is not on his side, but 4 years of Tinubu could be enough to start turning Nigeria and lay the foundation for Nigeria's future development.

Tinubu is miles ahead of Obi in terms of professional, leadership and financial experience.

BigRocky:
Nigerians are not stupid Mr op.

Come to South South here and mention tinubu or apc,you will be lynched in no distant time

Exaggeration.

How come you people haven't lynched Oshiomhole. He has been on the streets campaigning. Is Edo not South South?

Is cross rivers not in South South. Rivers nko.

Tinubu will get 25% in the above states and Delta.

People full North o.

Ezeama400:
Who are they to speak when the CBN has spoken?

If the CBN will not respect a higher authority - the Supreme Court- why should commercial banks respect the CBN.

A civilised society is built and depends on making and complying with laws, rules and orders.

Since the CBN insist it is above complying with a Supreme Court order, and that it would rather see the country run as a banana Republic, is it any surprise that others also ignore CBN orders.

There is a reason it is called SUPREME court.

It's pronouncements supercedes the President's.

Incredible.

The Aso Rock cabal has really messed the masses up.

AfricanColumbus:
The president has the power to veto any ruling of the court, if it is deemed crucial.

In a banana Republic, yes.

In every serious democracy including the USA, a President cannot veto an order of the Supreme Court.

It's the same in the UK, Germany, France, Canada, South Africa etc. Even Ghana!

AfricanColumbus:
A presidential executive order supercedes any order in the land.

cc BluntCrazeMan

You are wrong.

All the President 's powers come from the constitution.

That same constitution gives the Supreme Court the FINAL say on the legality or illegality of a President's orders or actions.

Any order given by the Supreme Court overrides that of the President, and even if the President disagrees with the order, he must first obey it, and if he wants the Supreme Court to change its order, the President will send the Attorney General to go and PLEAD with the Court to change the order.

Anything, everything, human or otherwise within the territory of Nigeria must obey the order of the Supreme Court.

Yes, the President is the most powerful person in Nigeria, but the Supreme Court is the single most powerful institution in Nigeria.

BluntCrazeMan:
I understand this line of argument.

CBN is answerable to the FG, but i[b]t is not a part of the FG[/b].

This defies logic. So what is it part of then? It must surely be part of something or does it exist in its own firmament.

Thus, if the Supreme Court gave orders to the CBN with respect to a case that never had them as any of the respondents, then it became a biigg joke..

If a Landlord serves a quit notice on a father, can the son who lives in the same property insist the notice has nothing to do with him because his name was not mentioned on the notice

A Supreme Court order binds, affects, and must be complied with by all things and persons living, breathing, and existing within the territory of Nigeria. Full stop. No exception.

There is a reason it is called Supreme court

BluntCrazeMan:
Ok..




Now, for this particular issue at hand...
It is not a constitutional issue.
So, it means that the Supreme Court can never overrule it,, even if it tried to do so...
Is that it??

All the powers of the President derive from and are provided for by the constitution.

That means all the actions of the President must comply with the constitution and the laws passed by the National Assembly.

So, the current issue is a constitutional issue, which only the Supreme Court can decide. It has to decide whether the President acted within the powers conferred on him by the constitution and laws.

The reason a country has a supreme court (and indeed other courts) is to ensure that the Executive ie., the President, Governors, Ministers etc do not misuse their powers against us, the people.

There is a reason Mr Buhari cannot issue an Executive Order for you to be arrested. That's because the constitution does not give him the power to misuse his orders like that.

Without courts like the Supreme Court, most Presidents would become dictators.

The people must guard the supreme court's authority jealously and not allow any President destroy it for their own personal interest.

AfricanColumbus:
Nothing supercedes a presidential executive order. It can only be revoked by the president himself if it is deemed to be grossly unconstitutional.

You are so wrong.

Yes, a President can issue an order. However, such order is only enforceable if it was made in a valid exercise of the President’s power (i.e. the order must be within the president’s constitutional authority.

Who determines the President's constitutional authority ? - the Supreme Court!

If the Supreme Court gives an order concerning a President's order, the Supreme Court's order immediately supersedes the President's order.

One exception would be if the constitution was suspended due to war.

The knives are out.

It seems an all-out political war is about to break out between the Aso Rock forces and the pro Tinubu camp.

That the President allowed himself to be enmeshed in the highly undignified vindictive plot of the Aso rock cabal baffles me.

As things stand, if Tinubu loses, Mr Buhari will get the blame. If he wins, Mr Buhari will come out looking weak and uninfluential. It's a no win situation for him.

To make matters worse, of all the things the President will have done in his 8 years, the hated currency swap of the last few weeks will be one of the things he will be most remembered for.

How sad.

Benbellamor:
The order of the supreme court is Not a judgement but 'an interlocutory injuction'.... as it stands, neither the police Nor the Army are served any cerified true copies to that effect.....moreso, CBN was not invited before the interlocutory order.... The president Veto carries more weight sir

There is no democracy (well, serious ones) in the world where a President can veto a Supreme Court order.

The US President cannot veto an order of the US Supreme Court.

The King of England (their Head of State) cannot veto a court order.

It can't even happen in Ghana.

The President 's pronouncements are invalid as they can't supercede the Supreme Court order that both old and new currency should remain in use.

El Rufai has merely restated the Supreme Court's order.