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MaxInDHouse:
Like Jesus i drink RESPONSIBLY because i've got Holy Spirit which makes me have SELF CONTROL!

the Holy Spirit control a drunkard. That is why jw are devilish

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus ate and drank alcoholic beverages in the presence of critics that's why they called him a glutton (someone who does not fast at all) and drunkard (someone who doesn't detests alcohol)

He never got drunk, with the Holy Spirit he has SELF CONTROL {Galatians 5:22-23} unlike you who can't control yourself!

you at what you are saying, Jesus drink alcohol but he never gets drunk because the Holy Spirit is with him. I don't know how you easily believe this thing. Anyway you have suspended your brain so you don't have any to reason. Go and drink and drunk and say Holy Spirit is with you. God Holy Spirit cannot be where is sinful. So you are just deceiving yourself

MaxInDHouse:
Now you are not talking of the Bible Jesus because according to God's word he eats and drinks which makes those in his time called him a drunkard.
So he takes alcoholic drinks!

that is your own Jesus, my Jesus is not a drunkard

You know we have argued this before.

MaxInDHouse:
Can you prove it?

can you prove he is a drunkard

MaxInDHouse:
You're the funniest among them because you said alcoholic drinks is SIN to you when God never said so.

That's what suspending the use of your brain means.

If we are to go by your own brain any of these people who takes alcoholic drinks is evil but from God's standpoint it's not so!

that is why your own is a drunkard because the Jesus of the Bible never drink alcohol.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus does so many things as human like eating different delicacies and drinking alcoholic beverages but when it comes to pure worship he SUSPENDS his human brain and rely solely on instructions from God!

you and this your Jesus drinking alcohol. Na your own Jesus be that. My own Jesus is not a drunkard

MaxInDHouse:
NO!
You are lying what Jesus is telling his dad is that he feels the situation shouldn't be but he is willing to go through it if that's what his father chooses.
You can't be going through excruciating pains yet say it's OK when you have a choice to release yourself so to do that you must suspend the use of your brain and focus on doing what you were told to do even when you are not comfortable with the whole thing.

how then does this mean Jesus suspended his brain.

tctrills:
Oga, for the sake of this discussion, use your brain, please. We know you have suspended your brain. So, Jesus Christ did not suspend his brain; rather, he suspended his will. Those are two very different things.
Your will is the things you want. Many times, we suspend our will for something better. A student wants to play video games all night, but he suspends his wants and picks up his book; does that make him brainless? As a husband, you often suspend your will for that of your wife; does that make you brainless?

so he should go get the brain from where they put it and put it bsck on.
I don't know you too is dragging this with him. This people have been seriously brainwashed

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ if simple English confuses you like this then you need an English teacher.

The Bible is God's word it's clearly stated that Jesus SUSPENDED the use of his brain whenever it comes to matters of pure worship and rely solely on whatever his father says! John 5:30

His Apostles SUSPENDED the use of their brains and solely rely on whatever Jesus says when it comes to matters of pure worship! Luke 9:23

The disciples SUSPENDED the use of their brains and solely rely on whatever the Apostles teaches them when it comes to matters regarding pure worship! Hebrews 13:17

It doesn't mean they won't use their brains again but it's when pure worship is the matter at hand.
So read carefully and digest before you think of responding there's no way you can refute whatever i say because it's established in the scriptures!

please Maxi what or when is the pure worship are we allowed to use our brain

MaxInDHouse:
Is it a visible man or an invisible spirit that led Jesus into the wilderness?

Let's start from there.

it is the Holy Spirit. Though invisible.
He led the Lord Jesus into the wilderness. Jesus was there 40 days without food. The Lord Jesus was hungry and the devil came to tempt him. This is the event you painted. So I told we all face temptation. The devil even you but there is no suspending of brain. The Holy Spirit is us helping us overcome the temptation of the devil.

If the devil tells you to go and steal you will need to suspend you brain to know that the devil is tempting you to do something wrong.
Even sinners overcome the devil. Does that mean they suspend there brains

MaxInDHouse:
For the benefit of interested followers!

After Jesus' baptism as a man God's Holy Spirit led him into the wilderness and for the next forty days he was with the spirit of God but after the days were ended another spirit began talking to Jesus:

“If you are a son of God, tell these stones to become loaves of bread.”

At that Jesus responded:

“It is written: ‘Man must live, not on bread alone, but on every word that comes from Jehovah’s mouth.’”

Again this spirit took him to a high place and said to Jesus:

“If you are a son of God, throw yourself down, for it is written: ‘He will give his angels a command concerning you,’ and, ‘They will carry you on their hands, so that you may not strike your foot against a stone.’”

At that Jesus responded:

“Again it is written: ‘You must not put Jehovah your God to the test."

At last this spirit showed him all the Kingdoms of the world and their glory then said to Jesus:

“All these things I will give you if you fall down and do an act of worship to me.”

Finally Jesus got the clear picture of the spirit that is now talking to him so he responded:

“Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’”

Now answer your own question:

At such a moment is Jesus following instructions or using his brain to discern the difference between the two spirits that had been talking to him?

Remember both spoke to him one immediately after the other.

well this your jw Bible it is quite different from the normal Bible because in the normal Bible there is no two spirit talking to Jesus at the same. You are talking about the temptation of Jesus.

The Lord Jesus was led by the Holy Spirit to the wilderness to fast and after he had fast and pray 40 days the devil came to tempt him. It is like the normal temptation everyone of face in our lives, Jesus had the grace and wisdom to overcome the devil and because he had the grace and wisdom to overcome the devil we too also have the same grace and wisdom to overcome the devil. So there suspension of brain here. There is no switching on and off of the brain, just having the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit telling us how to overcome the devil.


Then why do jw attributing the devil with another spirit. You don't want to tell us he is. The devil is the devil. Evil and bad. Anyway am talking with a jw. You said say it the devil because it is your master

MaxInDHouse:
Do you know why Islamists are looking forward to killing you?
Well it's because they felt you are insulting God!
So instead of talking rubbish why not let God do His own work which is judging?

I said Jesus SUSPENDED the use of his brains when it comes to pure worship of course Jesus use his brain to choose who to obey between God and Satan but after identifying the source of divine guidance Jesus starts obedience without a second thought.

Your own problem is identifying the only source of divine guidance i know the source so just like Jesus i suspended the use of my brain to obey my God!

is it every time Jesus suspended his brain or when he have important things to choose

Maxi, you will say am stalking you now look at what you wrote. So you want to just keep quiet and you insulting Jesus.

Jesus has no wisdom. This was what I was trying to tell you yesterday. Don't just bring jw demonic doctrine. Why will Jesus not have wisdom of his own. You are very wrong

Nigeria has been so plunge in poverty that people no longer involved protests because if you give money they rather support rather go against. They say lie rather than tell the truth

Our imam assured us...... What a religion

Yes

MaxInDHouse:
You are the devil here because i asked the OP:



And this is his response:



So who are you to decide what happens here when you are neither the OP or moderator?

can you comprehend simple English. Am I deciding anything. I only said I can't stand it when you bring up this demonic of your jw, so I speak up. Does that mean I decide what to say or not

MaxInDHouse:
Yet you keep on requesting for it unable to use God's word to refute it.

Just stop stalking me because i wasn't talking to you before you jumped into the thread!

am not stalking you. Wetin concern me and you. I can't just stand when you say all this rubbish jw believe in.

It is bad

MaxInDHouse:
I can understand.

So stop giving yourself unnecessary headache if you don't want something stay far away from it but you can't shut down the truth no matter how angry or bitter you may be!

your doctrine are just demonic

Thankgod89:
Let me clarify—I’m not saying you personally heal anyone from COVID. I’m just asking, where have you heard news of someone being miraculously healed from COVID?

so because you didn't heard of anyone healed of covid 19, you are calling me a liar.

Well I cannot be arguing more on this with you.

Thankgod89:
My problem is that you're lying without any fear of God, and you expect us to just accept it. Yes, our God is a miracle worker, but during COVID, when the entire world was on lockdown, where is your miracles news coming from.

I don't know why jump into conclusions. If look at the post I wrote after that post I said I never said I performed miracles during covid, now you just come and jump to conclusion. This is the second time. I never said I performed miracles during covid oooo.

MaxInDHouse:
I told you to calmly read my comments don't read with malicious intent because that won't help you.

God keeps working till today {John 5:17} but no longer through the hands of any so called believer.

i cannot support any thing jw. Take the the kingdom from Israel doesn't mean miracles are not performed after the Lord Jesus left earth.

Infact the Lord Jesus we are to do more miracles he did.(John 14:12).
So to me this your analogy doesn't stand

MaxInDHouse:
YES!
Read Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38

From that time the power follows only his disciples so after their death it ended!

this doesn't justify that miracles are no longer performed after Jesus left.

Are you really saying that there is no miracles anymore. I am surprise ooooo

MaxInDHouse:
After the death of first century disciples of Christ whether you are Israelite or even from the bloodline of Mary the mother of Jesus God gives that power to nobody again!

really, and it was written in the Bible

Thankgod89:
Hello, go and sit down somewhere!

guy I wasn't talking to you na. What s your problem

MaxInDHouse:
You don't calm down when dealing with scriptural discussions.
First of all God never gave a gentile the power to perform miracle, secondly God promised the Israelites that in the last days of Jerusalem miracles will occur through the hands of faithful Israelites.

So after the destruction of Jerusalem in the first century miracles cease and there was no miracles again until today.

Why?

Jerusalem is the city where God's name was established with pure worship and since it was destroyed gradually miracles stopped completely.

God only heal but not through the hands of anyone claiming believer, even among Jehovah's Witnesses we still experience miracles today but no one is given the credit as believer through whose hand such a miracle occurred.

So get it right: God is still doing His works but the gift is no longer given to anyone after the death of Jesus' first century Jewish disciples!

you haven't answered my question.
The Israelite are not gentile. The Israelite are children of God. So what if a Israelite leaves Israel to another can't he perform miracles there

MaxInDHouse:
Mention one none Israelite in the Bible who performed a miracle!

so because there is no other tribe that performed miracles that means miracles stop with the Israelite.

Now let me ask you, what if in this present time a Israelite leaves Israel and go to another country, can't he perform miracles in that country.

MaxInDHouse:
No one was given the gift of healing outside Israel, so if anyone is healed it's due to practices that neutralize the power of the virus.

where is that in the Bible. So the miracles that have been performed since Jesus Christ left earth, what are those.
Keep living a life that have twisted by your elders

MaxInDHouse:
LIAR!
You should have moved to the place where the affected persons were quarantined so the whole world may know not lying today!

am not saying I was healed of covid oooo. All am saying is that I cannot be campaigning that I want covid so that I can be healed of God.

But during that time there where healed of covid

MaxInDHouse:
Where were you during COVID-19?

so I should be campaigning over the place abi. Didn't hear of miracles during covid 19. People that was heal from covid 19

MaxInDHouse:
God's blessings regarding reproduction is upon all creatures but as creatures in God's image we supposed to call Him as our father for whatever we want but due to the break in communication God only work on His own program so if Adamic sin affects anyone now to the point where he or she is born blind, deaf, lame, dwarf or impotent such a person must wait until God's Kingdom comes.
The miracles recorded in the Bible shows that God will resolve all abnormalities when His kingdom come not that everyone should start calling God to bear children like Sarah or Hannah.

you see where you jw have issues, didn't Jesus perform miracles in the same earth that we live in. Didn't he open the eyes of the blind and did dives miracles, but you are saying that now we will wait for God's kingdom to come before such miracles can happen again, whereas the Lord Jesus said greater works that he did is what we would do not heaven, in the same earth that we are.

So you jw don't really follow the teaches of Jesus. You are just cutting the teaches of Jesus

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus suspended the use of his brain for the (unseen God) Apostles suspended the use of their brains for Jesus (a man they can see) disciples suspended the use of their brains for apostles (men they can see)
So God has human representatives to whom we must be SUBMISSIVE! Hebrews 13:17

maxi try all you want no body go follow that demonic jw ways. You are fighting a lose battle. The eyes of people are opened