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sonmvayina:
Lol.
I laugh in pidgin English.
Jesus creat anything??

Don't worry. The time is not far again. The deception will be revealed.
Then you will start running to the Jews to teach you their ways. It's not far again.

Well I don't what time is coming for you but I know a time is coming where that same Jesus you don't believe in will come and take us that to heaven where he is. That is the time I know is coming

Thankgod89:
To be honest, you have nothing to say. You once dragged me into a discussion you started about the difference between eternal life and everlasting life, yet you failed to present a convincing argument. Now, someone else has shared their understanding of eternal life, and you still have no valid points to prove them wrong.

so you as a Christian believe that eternal life is a live with no termination or ending. You believe this is the only definition or knowledge of eternal life. Because this is the the interpretation of stilldtruth concerning eternal life.
Is this also your on own understanding of eternal life?

lawani:
But I hope you accept that it is wrong to teach that God forgives past, present and future sins automatically?. Do you agree that Christianity should be practiced in private and that people should not be employed to spread it?. The moral fabric of the society is at risk due to the Jesus died for us rhetoric

1, with the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus our sins both past, present and future sins are forgiven but for it to remain like that we must do away from sin. How do we do away from sin? How can we though we have been saved but live in a wicked world full of sin. This is where God gave us his life and power to enable live in this sinful world free from sin and dominate sin.
2, no I don't agree that Christianity should be practiced in private. The moral fabric of the society during the time of Jesus was to crucify him. That is what the moral fabric in our society ought to be. We need to tell others that it is the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus that save us. Others need to know. So Christianity shouldn't be practice in private

MaxInDHouse:
You lack scriptural knowledge that is why.
Your dealings with the opposite sex is much more deadly than getting drunk many people in the past got drunk with lust for women and it led to their failure as God's servants.
Do you remember Samson, David, Solomon and Ahab?
They all committed grievous blunders due to their affairs with women.
Do you think all male Christian should stop dealing with women because of such things?
Ọmọ learn to be humble it will do you a lot of good.
I have given you the key to unlock the secret as to what Jesus' ministry should achieve among faithful mankind: there must be peace among all those claiming believers in the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 2:4} because they must LOVE there neighbors as themselves {Mark 12:31} LOVE and pray for their enemies {Luke 6:27-28} and LOVE their fellow believers just as Jesus is ready to die for his disciples! John 13:35-35
So if any religion failed to do this they are not disciples of the Prince of Peace.

that is rubbish key. You said dealing with opposite sex is more deadly, do you know that getting drunk can make me fall and have sex with a woman.
Well you have what you believe. But I can't go in that line. I have seen what alcohol can do to know. Please don't let us continue to argue on this. I can't subscribe to it. Good morning and have a good day

sonmvayina:
So got nothing to do with God.
He is just a creation of the church fathers. I understand that.
I don't need him. He is useless to me.
I follow my creator and his laws. That is ok for me.
Thanks.

I need him. I can't do without him. My very existence depends on him. One pray I wish to pray every day is that every day of my life I should be looking at only Jesus. He is the center of everything

MaxInDHouse:
What do you think someone is drinking before onlookers can call him a drunkard?
Can you say that about someone drinking Coke or Fanta?
Ọmọ Jesus drank alcoholic drinks that's why onlookers called him a drunkard!

Note that they said he is a friend of sinners and tax collectors.
Well because he doesn't judge anyone.

Note that they called him a glutton.
That's because they never saw him say he is fasting.

So try to humble yourself and learn God never condemns alcoholic beverages so His only begotten Son drinks it moderately.

I will always kick against drinking of alcohol as a Christian. I know how when you get drank you can easily this that you don't normally do.
I can never supported drinking as a Christian

StillDtruth:
Everyone knows that It means Life with no termination or ending

you see there you are wrong. I would have first ask you this question before I even engage you.
Please if truly you are a Christian, humble yourself and learn what really is eternal life. Not all this running from one thread to the other that you do here on nl. This is where glory of God start in our lives. Christ in you the hope of glory. If Christ is not you, you don't have any glory. So try and know what eternal life truly is.

StillDtruth:
This will be you reversing the burden.

But ok, let's reason together.

I have answered your question, but do note that as it stands now that you did not answer mine.

stop blaming and answer the simple question.
What is eternal life

sonmvayina:
1. First and foremost where did the idea of God sending anybody to come and die for the sins of anybody come from? It is pagan if you ask me. Human sacrifice belongs to the realm of Lucifer. It has got nothing to do with the creator of heaven and earth. Who forbids us in one of his commandments "Thou shall not kill" it does not make any sense? God already provided a solution to the problem of sin...see 2nd chronicles 7:14. It does not involve any human sacrifice. That is what a loving God will do, not ask for a human to be killed to please you.

2. Humans sin and humans are to ask God for forgiveness. That is what he asked. Not human death or sacrifice.

3. Lol. When did God plan that a human has to die before he would forgive us our sins. Looks like what Allah would do. Not the creator of heaven and earth.

1, if humans sin and there is no human being ready to pay the price of their sins, how will the price of there sins be paid. Or are you ready to die for the sins of the world. Can you die for someone else.
There is no human being that is ready to do what Jesus did not even you. You cannot take a slap for your neighbor not to talk of dying for him. If there is no human being that is ready to die for the sins of the world how would the sins of the world be paid.
2, human sin and ask God for forgiveness, if God forgive human and human sin again and again, how long will God continue to forgive human. Don't you know that God also run out of patience. That was why you see God keep destroying this world and repenting of it. God destroyed this world with water during the time of Noah. He also destroyed sodom and Gomorrah with fire, what do you think God would use to destroy this generation. God would have wipe us away from the face of the earth. This generation that is full of sin. By now I don't think there would be anyone in earth. God is a merciful God but he also grow out of patience and get angry. If not for the death and resurrection of Jesus, there won't be any Earth by now. That life that you so like would be blown away by God.
So this world needed Jesus

sonmvayina:
God's divine laws. He has already given humans everything they needed to live in peace and a fulfilling life. It also includes taking responsibility for your actions. If you are sincere enough to confess and forsake your sins, he would forgive and remember them no more.
Jesus is useless to God's plan. If you ask me, he is an idol. And God hates idolatry.

it is under this your torah that say that about my savior Jesus but in Christianity, Jesus is the perfect plan of God for mankind. Without Jesus this world would be long forgotten. We won't have this world.

In your torah you may not have Jesus Christ but in Christianity he is the pillar. He is our life. So please don't mix your Torah with Christianity

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said:

‭For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon.’ The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’ Luke 7:33-34

how does that in anyway confirm that it was alcohol Jesus was drinking. Even verse 33 the uses the word wine when talking about John the baptized but in verse 34, wine was not Included when talking about Jesus.

The Bible never said Jesus was drinking alcohol. So I don't accept that Jesus drank alcohol

MaxInDHouse:
Why asking questions if you're not ready to read God's word?

I quoted the scriptures in that post so go and read to get knowledge!

pls qoute it here

MaxInDHouse:
Did God forbids alcoholic drinks?
If God doesn't and Jesus doesn't then it's no case my friend.

for there is case. I don't do it anymore and I don't think Christian should do it.

And you said Jesus drink alcohol. Was it recorded anywhere that he drank alcohol. Or is it his miracle of changing water to wine you are referring to him drinking

Stilldtruth answer the question na. What is eternal life

MaxInDHouse:
That is your own opinion but the true God said in his word:

And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household. Deuteronomy 14:26

Jesus himself drank alcoholic drinks that is why observers called him a drunkard! Luke 7:34

So be careful not to set up standards that God didn't set for his worshipers if your own brain can't contain alcoholic beverages it's not a sin on your part but that doesn't make it abominable for others in fact God's word says alcoholic beverages makes the heart of people rejoice! Psalms 104:15

haven't you seen cases where a man get drunk and beat up his wife. Even torn her cloth and make her naked. People do other stuff they don't normally do and tag it to alcohol. I won't not want to normally fornicate but if am drunk, I would tempted to do it.
Maybe those cases of children molestation rocking jw is due to alcohol those took

MaxInDHouse:
You are now mixing up everything just to make a point.
Did Jesus condemns drinking?
Do JWs approve fornication?

but are guys like you have painstakingly point this not fighting and war stuff observing the other commandments of Jesus.

The Lord Jesus may not have condemned it but alcohol is a toxicfyer. Personally there are some things I don't but if I have taken alcohol, I will start doing it.
Alcohol makes you do other things which may be sinful

MaxInDHouse:
It's by supporting politicians that people carry weapons to fight and when the trouble persists that's when they begin training for war.
So if you can find any church where no member is into politics and military services and preaching and teaching that these things are against God's will then you are automatically one of Jehovah's Witnesses because i'm 100% sure you can't find a single religion like that.
If it's not the ORIGINAL it can never bear the same FRUIT like the ORIGINAL! Matthew 7:16-18

all this your write up are funny to me. Jw are keep a part of the commandments of Jesus and not keep the other.
Jw drink.
Jw don't see it as sin to fornicate and commit other sins but because they don't fight or go to war they are the only church serving God

MaxInDHouse:
Russians are claiming Christians and the same with Ukraine so if they are fighting and killing themselves who is their Lord?
Jesus Christ or their human rulers?

are claiming.
1, which church are the ones fighting for Ukraine against Russia. Name the church.
2, is still not a fact. They are still claiming

MaxInDHouse:
Then who are fighting and killing their fellow believers and neighbours in Russia?

is the Russian war tied to any church

MaxInDHouse:
It involves much more than that my friend.
Do you support one politician against another?

I want to follow Jesus and as Jesus never supported any political party or individual, i also don't support any politician or party. I way have before but now that I have rededicated life back to Christ, I won't do that.

And I am sure that are don't support any politician or party

MaxInDHouse:
For what o?

if jw don't fight, other churches don't fight too

Maxi why are you not replying. So jw don't fight.
Every Christian as long as you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, you be peaceful and avoid fight. I believe in the Lord Jesus and I cannot support war

MaxInDHouse:
YES!
And wherever we go it's friends of peace {Luke 10:6} our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus commanded us to fish out {Mark I:17} that's how we are able to gather friends of peace in preparation for the second coming of the Prince of Peace! Isaiah 9:6

do jw don't fight.

StillDtruth:
I don't understand. If a person is saved eg a passenger from the Titanic in a life boat does he not have his life already?

Or when a death row inmate is given amnesty, does he still remain in prison to be put to death?

can i ask you a questions.
What is eternal life

MaxInDHouse:
So are you saying there is no one in those churches who is still learning WAR? Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3

Because throughout the earth there is no single JW who is learning WAR!

learning war. What is this?

So only jw are the only church or group that is not learning war according to you

MaxInDHouse:
The purpose of the gospel is to unite all faithful people throughout the earth as friends of peace {Luke 10:6} and WITNESSES of the Prince of Peace! Act 1:8

So true believers in Christ must practice what Jesus taught which is LOVE fellow believers {John 13:34-35} LOVE neighbours {Mark 12:31} and even LOVE enemies! Luke 6:26-27

Failure to do this means the religion is having a form of godliness but proving false to it's power. 2Timothy 3:5

The title GOD means SUPREME BEING so how can the worshipers of the same GOD be fighting and killing themselves yet claiming they have the same God?

are other churches not practicing love. Is redeemed, winners and the likes support of war. You can't possibly say only jw are the ones not fighting war. Other churches too are not directly or indirectly supporting or fighting war.


THIS IS WHY I DON'T LIKE JW. YOU GUYS KEEP THINKING IS ALL ABOUT YOU. WHY WOULD YOU THINK ONLY JW DON'T FIGHT WAR. JESUS NEVER TOLD US TO FIGHT WAR SO OTGER CHURCHES TOO BELIEVE IN JESUS AND ARE FOLLOWING HIS TEACHINGS

MaxInDHouse:
POINTS:

*God confused people's language in the beginning.

*Racism began due to politics.

*God promised to reunite faithful people throughout the earth.

*A religion will be established to bring faithful people together as one.

*The person to champion this religion will be born among the Jews.

*Jesus established Christianity to fulfill this prophecy.

*Only Jehovah's Witnesses are fulfilling it today.

*That's why God gave us another group name outside CHRISTIANITY.

how is jw fulfilling it. Is because they don't fight war. Is that how they are fulfilling it

MaxInDHouse:
GOOD QUESTION!

According to God's word the language of people was confused because they were not ready to do God's will which is going to all the parts of the earth to inhabit rather they wanted to stay in one place! Genesis 11:1-9
After confusing their language racism started and people started killing people over politics as each tribe or nation fights in support of their own ruler that is why God promised to reunite all His own worshipers as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers throughout the earth! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3
God's true worshipers will speak the same (spiritual) language, it's believed that the spiritual controls are physical so the usefulness of one religion is that there will be no division among God's own worshipers and they will judge matters the same way! 1Corinthans 1:10 compare to John 17:22

So when Jesus Christ began his earthly ministry this is what he established that is why he told Peter and the other Apostles when they asked him:

“Look! We have left all things and followed you; what, then, will there be for us?” Matthew 19:27

Jesus' reply was:

“Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news  who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life. Mark 10:29-30

So the preaching and teaching work is to unite all faithful people throughout the earth as WITNESSES of the Prince of Peace! Act 1:8 compare to Isaiah 9:6

Ask yourself today which of these groups claiming Christians doesn't have members who are fighting and killing people in the name of WAR?
If they do how are they going to prove their love for neighbours, enemies and fellow believers just as Jesus commanded his faithful disciples? Mark 12:31; Luke 6:27-28; John 13:34-35

So when Jesus said FRUIT is what matters {Matthew 7:15-20} he was referring to what is expected of true religion {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} whatever religion you practice as long as your faith can't achieve this Jesus doesn't have any business with you! Matthew 7:21-23

Today only Jehovah's Witnesses though also claim CHRISTIANS have achieved this that's why the true God began calling us by another group name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

are you saying because jw don't fight war that means they are the only set of people truly preaching the gospel

MaxInDHouse:
GOOD QUESTION!

According to God's word the language of people was confused because they were not ready to do God's will which is going to all the parts of the earth to inhabit rather they wanted to stay in one place! Genesis 11:1-9
After confusing their language racism started and people started killing people over politics as each tribe or nation fights in support of their own ruler that is why God promised to reunite all His own worshipers as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers throughout the earth! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3
God's true worshipers will speak the same (spiritual) language, it's believed that the spiritual controls are physical so the usefulness of one religion is that there will be no division among God's own worshipers and they will judge matters the same way! 1Corinthans 1:10 compare to John 17:22

So when Jesus Christ began his earthly ministry this is what he established that is why he told Peter and the other Apostles when they asked him:

“Look! We have left all things and followed you; what, then, will there be for us?” Matthew 19:27

Jesus' reply was:

“Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news  who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life. Mark 10:29-30

So the preaching and teaching work is to unite all faithful people throughout the earth as WITNESSES of the Prince of Peace! Act 1:8 compare to Isaiah 9:6

Ask yourself today which of these groups claiming Christians doesn't have members who are fighting and killing people in the name of WAR?
If they do how are they going to prove their love for neighbours, enemies and fellow believers just as Jesus commanded his faithful disciples? Mark 12:31; Luke 6:27-28; John 13:34-35

So when Jesus said FRUIT is what matters {Matthew 7:15-20} he was referring to what is expected of true religion {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} whatever religion you practice as long as your faith can't achieve this Jesus doesn't have any business with you! Matthew 7:21-23

Today only Jehovah's Witnesses though also claim CHRISTIANS have achieved this that's why the true God began calling us by another group name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

i couldn't read through, am sorry. Can't you just make it brief.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ masqueraders also goes out to do evangelizing for their religion but then it's the FRUIT that no false religion can produce! Matthew 7:16-18

So when i said only Jehovah's Witnesses i have all the facts with biblical backings.

what are the fact What are the fact that you jw have that other churches don't have

MaxInDHouse:
Quote any instructions of Jesus and present a church that is practicing it today.
Do you think Jesus' first century disciples rejected his orders?
If not think of the religion that is doing what the first century disciples of Jesus did back then.
Today Jehovah's Witnesses began doing exactly what the first century Jewish disciples of Christ practiced in the first century.
WHY?
Because we are living in the end time and many false prophets have started a religion all in the name of Christ so God began calling His own true worshipers by another group name:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

Don't just start insulting but think about what you are reading and try to refute it if you truly believe in Jesus!

so you think it is only jw that go the evangelize? You're not seen other churches that preach. Winners do go out and preach. Don't speak from only your point of view

sonmvayina:
What is death?
And when did God start accepting human sacrifice?

So if you were in the crowd, you would have been shouting for him to be killed? The heart of man is really wicked.
Are you a yahoo + guy?

1. The sacrifice of Christ is beyond death. The death of the Lord Jesus gives us the life to live beyond death.
2, who are those that sin Are they human or spirit
3. The crowd didn't know that they were doing the Lord's work. If it be for the sacrifice of my sin, yes I would want the Lord Jesus to be crucified