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Talented4real:
Congratulations

Please let me know whenever VFS Abuja contacts your bros.

Congrat KenModi, this is goodnews indeed and it is making me relax now. Also geekytobi was granted visa on Thursday via VFS Lagos, so it is more goodnews, and though I do not know about the turnover, his sponsor account was definitely less than two million.

My result could have been out on Thursday I cannot tell as it takes two working days to reach VFS Abuja, weekend exclusive, so I have to wait till next week (working days) to find out. So by all indications, I am the last man standing now... humorously speaking, maybe the First shall be the Last... or was it the Last shall be the First? What a paradox!

Talented4real:
oga your problem is that you are bent on finding answers instead of finding solutions to the issues, right now your documents are still in the consulate, people that applied in lagos a week after you applied have gotten their visas, and you are telling Me of messina bla bla, the problem is with vfs abuja i have like 3 people experiencing the same issue so what you supposed to do now is to call them on 08150188800 and complain so that they will know that people are serious or better still visit their office at lobito crescent abuja, they might have abandoned the docx at the consulate in lagos without informing the courier service to pick it up, all they care about is to collect their service charge. The best place to apply is in lagos.

I am happy your brother applied through vfs Abuja, so have he gotten his visa yet? Well they kept replying in the same monotone....your parcel have been handed to the embassy for processing!

Talented4real:
Not yet , But all those that applied in vfs Lagos on the ist week even 2nd week of this month have collected their visa, so i advice you to write a complaint to vfs.

Well someone going to Messina like me in Lagos have collected his visa today via VFS Lagos. Visa granted. Someone else yesterday!

Take note that VFS website will be down by weekend due to upgrading!

Talented4real:
ok 21st September should make it 15 days nah, maybe you should be expecting it as from next weekend.

Talent4real have your brother been contacted as of today by VFS Abuja? And which school?

Talented4real:
Not yet, he applied on 29th, what abt yours?

I applied August 31 and no wisp yet!

Talented4real:
Exactly i think the embassy will be more fast

Any news yet about your brother visa?

Talented4real:
It's like many people here have gotten their visa, but my question is why is it that some people's visa processing time last for only 6 -8 days and their visa is out, why for some it last from 15- 30days?

Well my observations are that (1) denial cases are more likely than not to take more than 15 days to prepare (2) if the application is from VFS, particularly that of Abuja, it may take up to or more than 15 days (3) and sometime if the date of departure is still far off, it may make them attend to more urgent travelers first for humanitarian sake... not necessarily always in the FIFO order (4) and for some inexplicable reason some document and identity may need further verification before being cleared.

But applying directly at the embassy or at VFS Lagos may mitigate or shorten the time, especially against embassy deadlines.

Talented4real:
You have to wait after 15 days or 20 days

y d special interest in vfs Abuja...did u apply tro there 2?

Talented4real:
Then you should call them to know why.

Since it is not a command that I call them, I shall wait more over it is too late to do anything spectacular now.

Talented4real:
it's not upto 15 working days

That should be a working estimate as some ppl have gotten less than 7 days while others took up to or more than 30 days!

Hello has anyone who applied through vfs Abuja around 29 - 31 of August, 2017 receive their visa application?

Talented4real:
Have anyone here gotten visa through vfs abuja?

it seemed Abuja vfs takes an extra week all the time.

ghostmist:
Thanks be to God.. arrived safely in Rome.

As per point of entry experience...nothing was asked. I just showed them my letter of admission, my passport was stamped and the dude said "Bienvenuto"


Ethiopian airlines ticket prices varies... depends on when and where you purchased yours.

How much did the fair cost you to Rome? And how did you browse the internet all through your journey? Using a free wifi or hotspot through your phone?

Is there any person going to Messina that have gotten visa yet?

If you applied September 5 and was given by September 12, and I reapplied via VFS in Abuja August 31 and have not gotten a reply, I no go bother again o� I have shifted my attention to February and won't cast my egg in one basket gain...

Anyway my parcel may have reached the embassy on September 5 or likely on September 6 after the public holiday.

Patechezz:
In life never give up ooo.. After the refusal on 21-08-2017. We reapplied and after 8working days we were granted ooo
We collected the visa today oooo.. UniSiena.. Undergraduate, but we included medical/travel insurance. Please anyone with an idea of a cheap flight and accommodation please help

Two questions please...when did you apply? And is health insurance the only thing you added extra when you reapply, or you also tinker with some things to make the application better and what could that be?

Hello all,

I just want to warn you about these pitfalls associated with applying for visa. Please apart from the very basic documents required by the embassy for student visa (like DOV, legalized academic documents, etc) do not be too enthusiastic to submit any other documents that you are not sure can be verified (even if you think it is genuine). You may meet all criteria for the visa, but only one document may discredit your visa application.

Another hilarious heresy I see some ppl postulating in this forum is that account statement may be verified but not duly verified. What I meant by duly verified is that everything about your account is visible to the person verifying your account and only God knows what they will relay to the embassy. Before you doubt me let me explain further that my sister is an external auditor that auditors and help get tax clearance papers for companies... at inland revenue...which is tax office... the govt ppl check any account presented to them (maybe via CBN) using your BVN. The outcome is that all accounts associated with that BVN comes under scrutiny... all money that passes through those accounts till date... calculating tax is a precise mathematics that give no room for doubts from tax defaulters not to know what they are owing.

So depending on which source the embassy is using... a single account statement potentially opens all other accounts associated with that BVN for probe no matter the bank used. So just be careful when applying for Sheghen visa, especially since you know that your account statement will be verified. Do not take for granted what can be verified about the account, provided you are sure it will not discredit your chances to get the visa.

kidakudz133:
20th of this month...

Hello any goodnews

This one na Indian movie o! What an iron advice for we the curious seekers!

Anyway did anyone who submitted for student visa via VFS before the holiday is experiencing what I am seeing when i track mine online? "Your application have been handed over to Courier for delivery to Consulate General of Italy on 31/08/2017"? It seemed my parcel have entered an infinite loop never being stated it has been handed over to the Consulate as they normally do!

Hi Electromagnito I am trying to understand the bases you submitted DOV and they said you didn't submit. Did you present or submit your original DOV or only photocopy? Were you going for Master or not and if so did you submit DOV only for your secondary school or for university cert or for both? Be specific let's dispel some myth created by your assertion here!

I no go lie to you all, my cover letter contain some remonstration over how much I have spent and how I do not want my effort to be wasted...that's the only way I can score a point with this Andrea.

Talented4real:
Bro nothing to assume, someone here did not even show evidence of hotel and flight booking as well medical insurance but he was giving visa. so no one is sure we are just assuming!!! Right now its only God that have the final say.

Don't be too confident! That person duly paid school fee in advance. Also they stated "others" among the document listed which could stand for bookings etc

So are you telling me if you fill your visa form wrongly it would be overlooked?

I have noticed that may be if you did not fill the visa application form properly and made mistake in your biodata form, it can lead to "insufficient documentation". Did you book a return ticket? Did your visa application form have your departure date which should ryme with your flight booking?

Mind you a visa is not a permit, as it is only given to you to process your education there in Italy, but for the purpose of assurance in case you did not succeed, you need to book a return ticket or willingness to return back...notwithstanding your intended length of study. Visa is given mostly for 90 days. The VFS guy told me that National Visa D is for those who return back and intend to go (if they have missing or stolen documents). Well it is just a theory I am developing sha.

Patechezz:
Yes true but I think it's a vital document that has been listed in d requisite document that is missing.. In d refusals I have seen it was clearly stated that "we repeal the obligation of explaining the reason for the denial" they quoted a law.. Also they usually write on grounds of safety and public order concerns that are usually involved in the issue of entry visa (except for visa application that fall into 22,24,26,27,28,e.t.c). I did some research and it's all pointing to that medical insurance except of course ur visa application falls into act 22,24,26,28 blarr blarr... So if they are not giving you a hint as to what document is missing then I believe it's becos it's a requisite document...

Medical insurance gives rise to "insufficient documentation"? Is that your surmise? Osanobuaaaaa! We will all be denied visa o!

Patechezz:
Insufficient documentation is not used for account statement... For those that didn't use their account or parents account (based on all the refusal I have seen) it was clearly stated that you were unable to provide sufficient proof of economic means...

I do not think you understand our rational here... if a none family member person have accepted to sponsor you and their account statement is sufficient for your economic means of sustenance... and then you are denied visa stating "Insufficient Documentation" is different from "unable to provide sufficient proof of economic means". In this case it has been stated clearly that you were unable to provide sufficient proof of economic means... why remind us of something that is so clearly stated?

So please explain to us what is "Insufficient Documentation" in all ramifications of our context "Italian student visa"? I do not want further confusion as we are trying to resolve this...

dejiconde:
ur second point might actually be d problem, my sponsor is a business man I actually submitted his business CAC. Wat other I.d do dey need?
Maybe wen next I apply around February next yr I will HV to submit his landed property and co.

Ok if I am acting as Andrea I will first of all want to know the relationship between you and this business man first... father, uncle, brother.... I will first check your birth certificate to see who is your father or mother there. If it does not correlate to this business man, then I will need vital proof of your relationship with the business man and will only accept strong brotherly proof... which is a little more difficult to establish with all certainty even if you have the same surname with them than a fatherly or motherly proof. So If I do not find strong family connection, even when you try, then i state "Insufficient Documentation"!... I am happy we all know the root cause now, and we will try to avoid it... I do not think you need land property or extra asset in this case but more about establishing a family connection matters most. Its even worst when you do not bear the same surname.

dejiconde:
they said insufficient documentation

We ate trying to know precisely some of the context insufficient documentation could be used. Because the statement is not revealing at all.

One theory is that either a vital document is missing but more likely the document presented is insufficient not because you didn't submit the right things, but itself is lacking vital proof or a supplementary proof.

For instance if proof of family income statement is OK but they could not ascertain the ID of the sponsor, or whether its a business or salary account.. in the last case payslips could strengthen the case. But as the list is endless so only the person who was denied the visa could proffer some explanations what they suspected led to the insufficient documentation!

esthermichey:
Good Morning House,
I hope we are all doing well, even tho my last question here was not answered....Please can someone help me with a draft of the sponsorship letter? I mean what will be the content of the letter....Kindly assist with a draft copy here as its very URGENT! THANKS SO MUCH

Just google sponsor letter and you can get a good format and idea. The problem with giving people draft copies is that they often plagiarized by copying it "word-for-word" which is wrong provided it has been used by someone else for a professional purpose. So it is wrong to ask openly for someone else own when their are draft copies online which you can easily access yourself. Common CV that I gave someone, the bobo copy it almost verbatim, even using the same reference with me and yet applying in the same establishment with me... till I cried "foul-play" because our organization lawyer would have spotted the similarities.

electromagnito:
Good day guys am really happy this group was more active compare to last year... Am icehood and I was denied last year, I could remember how I cried for foul play at the Italian embassy for having first class and a genuine statement of account yet was denied and people who used fake statement of account was granted base on the surname... I never gave up but thank goodness I shun Italy and got admitted to France... Where interview is done to know who and who is truly going for studies and I was granted my student visa this year not base on statement if account but base on my true intentions to study. Guys dont give up the best is coming.... Wish you all the best of luck

Icehood I was reading your posts all night and all those who participated last year like "newacca" from August to September 2016, and it was very interesting and enlightening. Thanks for informing us that you have got a France student visa. I am beginning to lose interest completely in schooling in Italy, and if any thing goes wrong with my visa application again, I am done... I was offered admissions to American University Girne and European University Lefka, Master of Computer Engineering both, but I let go for this Italian student visa process that have consumed over 350k of my money alread. The only reason why I applied for the shenghen visa is because I really want to do "Master of Engineering" and Computer Science UniMe has to offer.

Talented4real:
stop giving yourself unnecessary tension, they don't check that.
Did you apply with medical insurance?

Am going for a 2,yrs master program. Do I need insurance medical till I get there, as I am required first to apply for insurance there before I apply for permit within 8 days?

newacca:
Let us not confuse ourselves with personal thoughts, reasonings or third party information here and there. It's unprofessional, unethical and vandilization of privacy for any bank official/bank to give out your current account balance to third party. You may print out your statement of account and give it to third party (embassy in this context) and the embassy can confirm if it's genuine and verify if the balance as at the time you print the statement correlates with balance of the copy(ies) the bank is having.

The embassies have a way of finding out with the bank. Most times, they fax the copy to the bank and the bank also respond and confirm the genuiness of the statement or otherwise. The embassies will never ask for the current balance in your account(because they are aware of the banking ethics) Even if they do, no bank will divulge such sensitive information to third party(embassy).

Now to someone who says he knows someone who was refused and that Andrea (Who be Andrea sef? E be visa officer? ) told him that his/er visa was refused because the sponsor withdrew the money in his account; please ask your guy very well. S/he might have being hiding some info from you. It's either the embassy requested for another recent statement of account and the sponsor has removed huge amount from the account; while the visa applicant presented the new bank statement with deficiet of huge amount on it or the application was refused based on the fact the there was insufficient fund in the account.

This issue of thought that embassies do request current account balance from bank has generated a whole lot of arguments and controversies on the Canada visa thread. In my own view, the worst scenario the embassy could make is to request for another recent bank statement of account, if the visa officer feels you padded the account just for visa application.

My advice: I will urge everyone to plead to your sponsors not to withdraw huge amounts of money within the window period of 3weeks that your app is still with the embassy ( I know it's really hard to do, but you just have to do it. You can explain to your sponsor by referring to the current debate here and letting him know that the embassy may request new statement of account before your visa is issued ) because the embassy may actually call for new bank account statement to clear the doubt of any insufficient fund in the account. Oh yeah! I have seen such situation in the past.

If you are a self-sponsor, same thing applies to you. Please hold on for huge withdrawals until you have response about your visa application from the embassy.

On a last note, no matter how many applicants apply to study in Italy, they aren't up to those applying to U.S, Canada,U.K. and Australia. Visa application decisions cannot be based on number of applicants but the convincing documents and application the visa applicant presented + a little bit of luck (My thought though).

If you are about to apply, please take your time and compile your documents, then apply on time. If you have already applied, remain optimistic and hope for the best. If you have been refused before and trying to apply again, take your time to fill the loop holes that causes the first refusal and shoot again.

Keep calm & study in Italy. Ciao!

Well he that have ears make dem hear o!