Hello house, I like trouble a bit, especially if I feel it would let us learn more about God. Please can anyone show me the word RAPTURE in the Bible? Why are we even using this word today instead of the word RESURRECTION that is found in the Bible?

I felt that it did not adequately take care of the resurrection experience...it merely meant "TO BE CAUGHT UP" by those who are alive. It is being used by all those who hoped to be alive when JESUS comes. I felt it is encouraging a conspiracy theory that Christians hate to consider the possibility of dying a physical death one day, because the idea of dying (and be resurrected) fills us with gloom and shame so we prefer to ignore the Bible concept about death and resurrection completely, but prefer to think we shall be caught up alive. I mentioned the word RESURRECTION in this forum and some people did not even know about it and began asking me questions. Even Jesus resurrected from the dead on the 3 day. Why are we Christians not referring to this experience as resurrection anymore?

gracefilled:


@ Dencotext please explain

Hello dear, It is exactly what Shepherd wrote. Let me quote him before I comment briefly:
"The FIRST RESURRECTION is the resurrection of the Saints to attend the marriage supper of the lamb other wise called 'Rapture'.... The SECOND RESURRECTION will involve everyone who had ever lived on this earth, Sodom and Gomorrah will also rise to stand Judgement. "

That is It! The only differences between the First and Second is that everybody that ever lived would come back to life in the second resurrection before the final judgement!

I am not actually against using the word RAPTURE which we Christians are familiar with today, though it was not used in the bible, but I am worried that when I use the word RESURRECTION I get asked many questions, which the bible uses to describe the experience. Jesus resurrected from the dead on the 3 day. Checking the English meaning online, the word "resurrection" is the concept of coming back to life after death. The word "rapture" refer to an end time event when all Christian believers who are alive will rise (along with the resurrected dead believers) into Heaven and join Christ. You see those who believe in rapture thinks they will be alive and be caught up when Jesus comes. Yes that would happen, but the probability of still being alive when He comes is very slim because of the coming tribulation. Resurrection of the dead would happen too, so why not condition your mind that you would resurrect after death? And that is the beauty of the whole thing, that God would put an end to death! So a believer should not be afraid to die because for a saint to die, it is a blessed thing.

Shepherd00:


This is so much BS.

Thanks for saying it is so much bullshirt! Simply ignore what I wrote, it was an expensive joke! The rapture will occur before the tribulation bros. Relax!

Shepherd00:

So the AntiChrist is revealed yet the Church is still here? Two masters can't be in charge one Kingdom nah.

What is described up there will not happen while the Church is still here.

What do you mean by two masters in charge? Though I understand you, remember that JESUS is always in charge of EVERYTHING!

As for why the Church is still here? Just for today only, I wont use the word RAPTURE because I cannot find it in the bible, as sometimes it does not convey the sense I want. There would be the first resurrection. Unlike what pastors do teach on the pulpit it is not going to happen for us to escape tribulation. The bible have repeated severally that no one knows when the resurrection would occur, not even Jesus, only the Father in Heaven. The resurrection is a guarded secret in the BIBLE.

As for my personal opinion, what you guys deemed as the great tribulation it is not. The breaking of the sixth seal and the mighty earthquake, though it is the beginning of a terrible tribulation, it is still not the great tribulation. Of course, even now we are experiencing tribulation of some sorts and it would continue to increase astronomically. The tribulation would build up during the first 3.5 years starting with the sixth seal and when the first trumpet was blown. It would be a series of God judgement/punishment and wake up call for earth. It is not as gloomy as you think, minus the suffering... many people would start repenting and the harvest would be much, and the church would be around till the last trump call, which is the seventh trumpet. The antichrist BEAST would come on the world stage during the sixth trumpet period because the bottomless pit where he was in prison was blasted open by a falling star (meteorite) during the fifth trumpet call, allowing hoard of locusts to escape and torment those that are not saved. It wont harm born again people who have the seal of God... they would be leading those repenting to Christ.

But when the SEVENTH BUT last trumpet was blown by MICHAEL (no time frame was given) the great tribulation would begin; a physical war broke out in heaven. Satan was thrown down to the earth, a sign appeared in heaven of a woman about to give birth. Read Revelation 11:15 down and all through chapter 12. All hell broke lose... the woman born a male son, and fled into the wilderness and satan went to wage war against her offsprings and those that keep the testimonies of Jesus.

I believe with all my heart that the resurrection would only happen where Michael is mentioned in Revelation to collaborate with what Daniel said in Daniel 12: 1 "At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time; but at that time your people shall be delivered, every one whose name shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake..." Noticed that we the saints were still around this period, and the tribulation was cut short for their sake.

And as you may have noticed after all the trumpets were blown, nothing remains other than the seven fiery bowls which is the wrath of God to punish the Beast and all who have accepted the 666 mark. Now I agree that this would be period for the marriage supper of the Lamb in heaven, while the earth is severely punished by the wrath of God through those bowls. In the old, trumpets have always signal warning of an impending war or judgment. So it is the same in the Bible. 1 Corinthian 15: 52 "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP: for the TRUMPET shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."

Aceed:



this is serious…this is really serious!

2021…


Decided to share my SPECULATION

I'm a Redeemer/Redeemite, and i remember very well in 2018 when Daddy G.O said that God said "the countdown to the end has started"…

2018 to 2021 is about 3yrs…

If truly nibiru will pass our solar system in 2021, then this could mean that we're in the 3.5years of peace and that also the antichrist has been revealed and we did or didn't know!!!


you guys are welcome to and should chip in your thoughts.

There was something Donald Trump said when giving a press conference... CALM BEFORE THE STORM! Trump was asked the meaning of what he said, and he said YOU WOULD SOON KNOW. We have not really entered the great tribulation yet. There is nothing about the first 3.5 years of the 7 years period that would be peaceful as you imagined. After the mighty earthquake, God would start pleading His cause with humanity, using great plagues, and the two witnesses shall appear on the scene to further punish the earth till the Beast appears and kills them. Then the last 3.5 years would be darkest period of mankind.

I have studied revelation over and over again, I have come to the conclusion that by the second coming of Jesus, about 95% of all humanity would either have died or be taken in the first resurrection. The only people that would survive and repopulate the world (during the millennium) would be children. Civilization as you know it now would pass away completely and there would no longer be machines of war.

Hello guys, I promised to keep you all informed about Planet X. The news coming through now is really bad as all the planets circulating Nemesis, the dwarf star, have stopped rotating anticlockwise and started rotating clockwise. Check the link below... http://www.someonesbones.com/blog/deadly-nibiru-change-shocks-russian-scientists/

The planet we fear most is Nibiru which could pass near earth approximately 10 million kilometres away at perigee on February 2021. The Russian scientists that observed these changes said it spelt doom to earth. It meant from now on the clockwise rotation of these planets would fling particles from this solar system towards us.

I will not dwell on this recent bad news but on what we know so far and what we should do in the advent of a flyby, that is if some of us survive the first catastrophy. When Nibiru flyby our earth, we would see a giant circular planet in the sky with our unclad eyes many times bigger than the Moon. But it would be too late. The magnetic pull from this huge planet would knock out all our electrical and electronic systems for 3 days. The earth magnetic poles and rotation axis would fling around suddenly. The jolt would cause only what is described in the book of Revelation chapter 6 when the sixth Seal was opened. There would be a mighty earthquake and the Sun would be darkened like sackcloth and the Moon would turn blood red because of the dusts from this dirty solar system. (Please Google this to verify, our magnetic poles have already began moving more than 300 kilometres now. If you have noticed, our Sun is no longer rising up where it used to be, it has shifted position slightly by up to 6 degree because the earth rotation axis has also changed slightly now, as Planet X approaches.)

That would be the first catastrophy. If we survive and our houses remain standing, make sure to stay indoors for 3 days and do not step out and lock your houses tight. There would be complete darkness on earth and much harmful electromagnetic radiation and dusts. Make sure you buy all the food you need for you and your family. You cannot cook this period because there wont be kerosine and firedwoods, so buy canned foods like sardine, bread, mayonnase, butter, cornflakes, biscuits, bottled water, canned milk and tea, and so on. Buy and keep many touchlights with spare batteries handy. From 2020 upward till the flyby please evacuate places near the coastlines like Lagos and move to inner cities like Enugu, Ibadan and Jos, because the ocean tsunamis after the earthquake would sweep away people and houses in cities. Upland and mountaineous areas could be better. Planet move at a very high speed, so when this thing is nearby there could be absolutely no warning before it breeze pass our earth. Its now you start preparing as all the governments of the world that knew about this, controlled by satan, have refused to warn us purposely so as not to create panic and people stop working.

After 3 days, life may continue as usual but in future remember it would take another 3 months for the solar system to pass perigee and maybe another 3 years to move out of our solar system and up to 7 years for it satellites and dusts to go away. Because just as Revelations stated, we would be bombarded by its asteriods and meteors, which would be like falling stars or as Jesus said, stars would fall down like a fig tree casting its leaves. These would be the second catastrophy. If that happened, the composition of this solar system is full of materials best described as Wormwood...red like blood because of the plenty iron oxide and bitter because of its cesium metal, along with ozone, helium and other elements. Surprisingly oxygen is friendly to life, so we could survive but cannot drink the river water and sea which would turn blood red and also bitter. So keep watching the skies, you may have noticed the increased amount of shooting stars.

drestoneokuta:
In the book of Job, it says God speak to us through dreams and in the vision of the night. When God speaks through dreams it is most times audible and clear, you will know within you its from God.
Dreams that needed interpretation in the Bible (like pharaoh and nebuchadnezzar) was for the greater manifestation of God's will. God spoke to Daniel through visions same as John and it was audible and clear and angels themselves interpret visions for them.

Let us take a case for example, the most tensed political senerio ever witnessed on earth, the crucifixion of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Pontius Pilate was destined to be the earthly government that will give the verdict for the crucifixion.
Even though he gave the judgement he washed his hands of the sentence and death of Jesus(this was done to prove his innocence and acknowledge Jesus), The Jews (who then claimed the responsibility for the death) , heaven and earth bore witness.

Part of the the things he considered before coming to this conclusion was the testimony of his wife. His wife had a DREAM the previous night which frightened and terrified her (we do not know if she was a believer of Jesus). SHE WARNED PILATE NOT TO HAVE ANY THING TO DO WITH THE DEATH OF JESUS BECAUSE OF THE DREAM SHE HAD (she did not need an interpreter, it was clear to her).

So brothers, God speak to people through dreams and he sends interpretation (either directly to you or through one of His Prophets/angels or whatever medium he chooses) and sometimes the dreams are simple enough to understand.

Why was Pilate destined to give this judgement and not herod(even though it fell on his jurisdiction to do so)? I'll explain if you want me to. (it's a great contrast between a wise and a foolish man in power)

Yes brother! Quoting the book of Job which you mentioned, Job 33:15-18 New Living Translation (NLT)
15 He speaks in dreams, in visions of the night,
when deep sleep falls on people
as they lie in their beds.
16 He whispers in their ears
and terrifies them with warnings.
17 He makes them turn from doing wrong;
he keeps them from pride.
18 He protects them from the grave,
from crossing over the river of death.
You can see that the main reason God speaks to us, is to make us turn from doing wrong and not to die and go to hell. It is important that we know and do the Will of God.

Missbee99:


Its important to know the meaning of your dreams to pray against evil or claim the good dreams or avoid certain things. What I don't believe in is running to a prophet EVERYtime you dream. God speaks to all who worships him with all their heart.

Yes but my opinion is slightly different. We are existing by the will of God, so I see no problem with running to see a prophet whatever the circumstance, provided he is a true man of God. Moreover it is not all dreams that are given by God, so if the dream is from satan what do we do?

Now let me make this correction. I believe that if you are a child of God, He can speak to you sometimes through dreams, visions, prayers, or through a man of God or children of God. I am concerned with when God is speaking to me. It is the unbelievers that need interpretations of dreams more than us. Jesus said my sheep hear my voice! If God speaks to you it will not be in parables, unless you are not a child of God. Provided you know the will of God, you do not need prayers over satanic dreams. You take authority over satan and bind him in Jesus name. He is under your feet. Man is not your enemy. Love your neighbor as yourself. The Devil is your real enemy, you will soon know why.

I will repeat this message again. In the 80's we Nigerian christians have night vigil binding satan and preventing his agents from causing death and sucking blood. But nowadays naija christians do not hold night vigils to bind satan but instead pray against human enemies and witches killing them. This is not a new testament teaching, where we see the church burning magic books, casting out demons from witches and wizard, and delivering people in bondages. Nigerian Church have lost the sense of God's direction and are making satan so comfortable. Why will boko haram not wax stronger and kill Christians? Because we forgot that spiritual warfare is not against flesh and blood.

Same mistake is being made about interpretating dreams. Why will God speak to you through dreams if you do not want to do His will? We should concentrate more on studying the Word of God and doing His will. Na wao, if we don't know what to do when we are awake, I wonder whether na through sleep we go learn am o?

gracefilled:


There is this belief among people that everything, be it good or bad, that happens to us is God's will. I used to think so too untill...it's all God's grace.

I teach people who do not know, believe they don't know and are willing to learn. I also learn from them. But if the other way is the case, you seem a fool trying to correct them, but because hearing such pricks me, I still find myself in such argument.

The prophet is Ebankole of www.dreamstorchlight.org. My sincere apology people, if this is not allowed.

Yes I agree with you completely. Concerning dreams, that was why I wrote about the INTERPRETER himself instead of writing about how to interprete dreams.

I have never so believed in dreams because I believe we can affect our destiny. Rather I believe that someone who truly interpretes dream should be Born Again and filled with the Holy Ghost, because we are not talking about what we dream, we are talking about knowing God, knowing His Will and changing destinies for good, as that is the gospel.

So many people want to know what there dreams mean. What would it profit you if you know? To me that is like superstition. Although I have shared in this forum severally what I dreamed and how it came to pass. But you would have noticed repeatedly that I always stated that I prayed and claimed the ones that came to pass, and rejected the negative ones that could lead to death, disaster or sorrow. But if I dream, like the case I saw four Hurricane winds causing destruction on earth and did not pray about it, it is because I choose not to. I cannot be praying about every dream I dream anyway, it would be madness!

For those who want interpretations of dreams, please what is the benefit of knowing the meaning of your dream and not be able to do anything about it? Is it because Dreams control us or we should control dreams? A child of God should give meaning to his or her own Dreams, meaning WE should be in charge of our Destinies. Dreams are meant to serve us not we serving dreams. If I know what would happen in future through Dreams I should be a mumu if I accept a negative dream and say it is my fate!

Hi all, do you remember above that I said a family friend died in that accident?! God anwers the prayers of a bieliver and as a result would sometimes reveal to them anything negative that wants to happen to their family in advance, so that they can pray or do something about It.

Well my niece survived the accident although she was not Born Again then. Why did out family friend died? Actually she also have a believer in her family. The mother sent to her and warned her that she saw danger coming her way, unless she accept Jesus. But she said openly that she was not interested in the mum's message. So she died as warned.

Hi all, I need to gist you guys this strange phenomenon that happened to me around 2015. I was sleeping and dreaming around 5:00 am in the morning when my dream was interrupted suddenly! I was abruptly snatched away with a jolt, the next thing I saw I was surrounded by people in white inside a surgical theater. Within a blink of an eye, I was patched up at tremendous speed. It felt so real like my body was being repaired. All parts of the body was there, one of them was bringing all the needed things while the others fixed me up. And then there was something needed to be done on the upper part of the body, I wonder whether it was for me, and then I woke up trembling.

As far as I was concerned this was a very bad dream. I knew something was wrong but cannot tell what. So I prayed and cancel Death from me and my family. But at work that day, I received a call that my niece (my sister's daughter) was involved in a ghastly motor accident. I rushed to the hospital. The first question I asked was when did it happen? They said it was around 5:00 am in the morning. Next I asked whether she sustained any injury and the answer was yes! Remembering my dream, I asked whether the injury is on the upper side of her body? However someone else who was involved in the accident, was the one that had injury on the upper side of the body, not her. Next I donated blood (as I was group O+) before I left the hospital that day! In few days she recovered completely and was discharged.

What do I want to say here? My niece survived the accident but our family friend died there on the spot!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeTaejpg18g

Hello guys, you can watch and listen to this dream of the rapture on youtube below:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnXvVwJI4TU

Missbee99:


I understand now

A true interpreter should have a relationship with God first and seek to do His will at all times.

Missbee99:


I understand now

Thanks for your understanding. I spoke rather about the INTERPRETER himself and not about interpreting dreams or the interpretations.

Missbee99:


Are u trying to say that if one is filled with the Holy Spirit and have a personal relationship with God, he/she shouldn't interpret his own dream ?

You need to understand what I was saying; I said anyone can interpret dreams. I mentioned magicians, sorcerers, enchanters, and I eventually mentioned Daniel too, who was filled with the Holy Spirit and have a personal relationship with GOD. What are you not clear about?

Many in this forum have given their opinions about interpreting dreams, it is now my turn . Interpreting dreams is now a popular science that can be studied. Anybody can interpret dreams, but today my emphasis is on the INTERPRETER and not just the interpretation.

In the Babylonian days, Nebuchadnezzar had all sorts of INTERPRETERS: sorcerers, magicians, astrologers, enchanters, and so on. For once in his life, he did not want to be deceived when he had a nightmare, so he commanded them to tell him his dream first before they can interpret it. Nobody was able to do that, claiming that only God can. When Daniel was called upon, he interpreted Nebuchadnezzar dream, claiming that God showed him through prayers. Then King Nebuchadnezzar believed and confessed that Daniel had the spirit of GOD.

Today people are so concerned about interpreting their dreams. Nobody is so concerned about having GOD and knowing HIS will? A true INTERPRETER should
1. Be filled with the Holy Spirit like Daniel. I cannot over-emphasize this factor!
2. Secondly, interpretations come from God. The Holy Spirit is the KEY here, we must ask Him for interpretation first.
Take note that because we are children of God, we can change anything. King Hezekiah was told by prophet Isaiah when he was sick that “The LORD says you won't ever get well. You are going to die”. Did King Hezekiah die? No he did not die because He prayed to God to cancel it and his life was extended for 15 years more.

You can now see why a true interpreter could help because it is not about interpretations alone, we are talking about changing destiny too. So be careful with interpretations using unbiblical sources because though satan can also interpret dreams correctly but we would end up in the permissive will of God for wrong guidance and not His Divine will.

I once had a dream wherein I saw my senior brother driving a red car. I woke up and claimed the dream for him in JESUS name. I went and told him that I had a dream in which I saw him driving a red car, so he will soon buy a car. Was I performing magic here? No I HAVE PRAYED that this should happen. The guy was so poor that he ignored me completely. When he bought a car later on, it was blue color. I walked up to him, laughing, and said, “When I told you that you would soon buy a car, you ignored me. Now that you have bought a car, I know you would believe me better. But this blue car is not the car I saw in my dream. So YOU WILL STILL BUY A SECOND CAR THAT WOULD BE RED COLOR.” This time around he did not ignore me but listened. This second time, someone bought and brought a red car for him from Cotonou, Benin, so he did not make the choice himself. When the red car arrived, I told him “bros, now this is the car that I saw in my dream”. What am I saying here? An INTERPRETER should be responsible for interpreting dreams meaning you can claim or even reject a dream in JESUS name that could potentially destroy your families.

Hi guys,

There is a very strange thing that is happening allover the world called "chemtrails". This is the spraying of our skies above with smoke by special planes to cause artificial cloud to cover the sky. I wanted to comment on why the governments are doing this, but since it has not been announced publicly why, I will keep my opinion. Please see the public protesting again chemtrail in Italy and also see the next video how they use chemtrail in the sky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ22IeNfE-I


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUT-p2so_k4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxkjsSpad0A

Hello guys,

I write this to encourage you all in your Faith and to remind you of the unfailing nature of God. Please do not be deceived that multitudes would somehow troop into Heaven though they rejected Jesus CHRIST. Do not be drawn into debates about Israel. Remember Lot? Only one man and his family was saved by faith from Sodom and Gomorrah. The free gift of Faith in Christ is so easy a concept to accept that many missed it because they want to believe something else.

Behold lift up your head because the time is near. God shall be more merciful to those who accepts Christ in these last days, but can true faith be found nowadays? Hold on to Faith which is what satan is after so that you should doubt.

providence338:
CC: Dencotext and EMILO2STAY

I used to regurgitate these same talking points before. Because that's what I was taught by men. Until I began to read the Bible for myself. Over and over, again and and again. And allowed myself to be taught by the Holy Spirit, who Yah has promised will guide us into ALL TRUTH.

Out of respect for CharlyG and others who visit this thread for DREAM INTERPRETATION, let's kindly move our discourse to the link below. I'll be more than happy to answer all your questions regarding the beauty of God's laws here.


https://www.nairaland.com/5077889/despite-what-weve-been-taught

https://www.nairaland.com/5077889/despite-what-weve-been-taught#76638189

Hello I took a look at your forum and noticed how insincere you are acting. You mentioned the Law, Feasts, and so on, what happens now that the Lamb of God was slain for the remission of our sins? You do not have any answers! Why should I be regaled by that forum?

Since you are hardly acknowledging the sacrifice of Christ as being worth a New Covenant, of course antichrist spirits always subtle insist there can be some salvation outside the Blood of the Lamb of God, no need to argue with you anymore. You have manifested your true color! I am moving on!

providence338:


Oh okay.

This is a very vast subject that deserves its own thread, however, I'll try to be concise in my reply. According to the Bible...what is sin? Sin is the transgression of the LAW (1 John 3:4). If the law was "done away with" after the death, burial and resurrection of Yahshua, this scripture shouldn't even be here. Either Yah has laws we should observe or not. And apparently, every author of the NT, long after the death of Yahshua still referenced and observed the Law. Yes, even Paul. No home, organization, institution, government, or nation can exist without LAWS...talkless of the WORLD. Everyone has laws..but God? The CREATOR of the UNIVERSE Does that make sense

The same people who told you this lie of the LAW, also have you ignorantly partaking in satanic rituals like the worshipping of fertility goddess Ishtar (easter) and Nimrod (christmas). The Bible never commanded us to observe easter/Ishtar, but the PASSOVER, and the other Feast Days in Leviticus. Christmas is nowhere to be found in scripture, but Dec 25, the winter equinox, the coldest, darkest day of the year is the birth of Nimrod aka the first anti-christ.....

The only reason we're not currently keep the laws in their purest form is because there is NO TEMPLE and Yah's true priests to service the temple are still SCATTERED IN THE LANDS OF THEIR CAPTIVITY. The white european gentiles currently trodding down Jerusalem are imposters working feverishly to build the 3rd temple which will house their long-awaited messiah, the anti-christ.

When the true (4th) temple is built during the MILLENNIUM REIGN as explained in the last 8 chapters of Ezekiel, guess what? The LAWS we've been taught were "done away with" will go into full effect. Animal sacrifice and all. "THE LAW SHALL GO FORTH FROM ZION AND THE WORD OF THE LORD FROM JERUSALEM" (Isa 2:3, Mic 4:2). The Bible itself plainly states the Messiah will rule the world from Jerusalem with THE LAW.

The LAWS of Yah are eternal...with no beginning or end. They're observed in heaven as we speak, were taught to Adam and Eve and passed down to the children of men, practiced long before MT. Sinai (Moses), observed for centuries by the early church, and will CONTINUE to be observed during the Millennium Reign. Yah is rewarding those who come to this understanding and are trying their best to observe HIS LAWS as He so commanded.

However Yah winks at our ignorance too. He is full of grace, kindness and mercy... due to centuries upon centuries of wide and vast deception and confusion, He's still blessing His people, whether we have this understanding of keeping His laws, statutes, commandments...or not.

If you like I can start another thread on the BEAUTY of YAH'S LAW. Despite what we've been told by well-intentioned pastors who themselves have been deceived in these useless seminaries, the LAW is NOT hard, burdensome nor grievous.....at least according to the Word of God (1 John 5:3). Most ardent believers keep YAH'S LAW as it is... we're just not operating in the fullness of it (sabbath, clean foods, feast days, etc).

In your zeal to prove yourself right by justifying the law, everything you wrote here is almost wrong. We are all busy people and cannot do extra work to quote scriptures all the time, especially as you are failing to give scritural references for all these off doctrines!

Lets just talk! As for justifying the law, you have failed to realized that Christ is the Law and the Lawgiver. It may seem wise to still sacrifice bulls and lambs, keep the Sabbath, wash your hands, and avoid unclean foods. But this was because Christ was not around then, but when He had come and have offered Himself once and for all as a sacrifice on the cross, our Lamb and Blood is now Christ, our Sabbath rest is now CHRIST because if the son of man shall set you free you are free indeed. It seemed we do not observe the sabbath, but JESUS Himself made us to understand the function of the sabbath...man was not created for the sabbath but the sabbath was created for man. Jesus Himself is the Lord of the Sabbath, he has come not to give us a temporal rest which cannot make us perfect but an everlasting rest. And as bible says in Hebrew let us labor to enter this everlasting rest rather.

As for keeping the Law and observing abblutions which you keep emphasizing, the bible says nobody can keep the law without breaking it. The law made us sinners. On the contrary, those in Christ are set free from the bondage of the Law. We walk by the Spirit of Life, and its the spiritual law of liberty in Christ that sets free, not the physical law. We therefore keep the law, but then you have to understand how GRACE works by paying more attention to the Messiah's words and the new testament. What Is Old is absolete and what is New replaces the old in standpoint and view. There is a reason why we phase out our old model to use a new model in real life, how much more spiritual realities?!

Therefore we are clean, even if we do not wash our hands, Jesus said be clean inside and all your outside with be clean. Not to be clean outwardly, and all your inside is dirty because you nullify the Power of Salvation! As for unclean food, Jesus now is our Lamb and with His name we can sanctify any food we like to eat. Jesus the Messiah threw a parable at the behaviour of the pharisees by telling his disciples IT IS NOT WHAT GOES INTO A MAN THAT DEFILES HIM BUT WHAT COMES OUT OF HIM (HIS THOUGHTS AND ACTIONS) THAT DEFILES HIM.

Therefore is only one logical reason why you are writing this way, you have not experienced the Power of the Holy Ghost, the baptism of the Holy Spirit with speaking in tongues as evidence. These of cause might not be acceptable by your doctrine, but interpretation of the bible can only come by revelations from the Holy Spirit. In that aspect you need the Holy Ghost baptism and not just being a believer alone. Its His promises to us. Your problem is still ultimately the problem of BELIEVE because you cannot accept some portion of bible and leave out some, especially if it is the weightier matter.

providence338:


Sorry you're disappointed lol. What is it that you don't agree with?
If possible, please use SCRIPTURE to address your opposing view.

Hello Providence, at this stage I will concur with Emilo2stay. The problem with writing unscriptural things and wanting us to address your opposing view with scriptures... is showing how you want to mess up things the more. For instance you wrote "Israel is not necessarily the church. Nor has the church replaced Israel. This erroneous doctrine is called "replacement theology". I was amazed that you went further justifying this wrong doctrine every step of the way. So why do you want us to clean this mess by quoting scriptures... can't you read the bible yourself? I will only quote two scriptures:

1. Ephesian 4:5 - 6: "4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

2. Ephesian 3:6 "This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus."

I am really unhappy with you for saying that Israel is special and different from Gentile believers, even if they the Church believe in Jesus, and they Israel do not believe in Jesus, but keep or observe some old testament rituals. Actually Moses who wrote the old testament commandments stated clearly that God would raise someone greater than Him, the MESSIAH, and anyone who fails to listen to His words shall be cut off...

Deutronomy 18:15 - 19 "15 The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your fellow Israelites. You must listen to him. 16 For this is what you asked of the Lord your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly when you said, “Let us not hear the voice of the Lord our God nor see this great fire anymore, or we will die.” 17 The Lord said to me: “What they say is good. 18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him. 19 I myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name."

It is as if we the Gentiles invented the Gospel of CHRIST, or as if Israel can choose to ignore the Gospel and keep the old testament. But this is exactly the wrong message of the Gospel you are preaching. The truth is that it is because of disobedience that many Israelis are being cut off and those who believe, whether Gentiles or not, are being grafted in. God made Abraham great, not Abraham that made Himself great. Same God, if some of the Gentiles believe, can make them great. God is the KEY here not Abraham or Israel. And here is the conclusion based on scriptures as you requested (Eph. 3:6) "through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body". PLEASE DO NOT SAY OTHERWISE, WE ARE NOT DIVIDED, THE BODY OF CHRIST IS ONE, AND THEIR IS NO OTHER WAY TO HEAVEN.

Cloud007:
I had a dream few weeks ago.... after praying for divine access and direction.

In my dream.... My Fam travelled to my parents state ....I have a picture of festive period visit. Familiar faces were all around as usual like festive season.

I checked my phone and I saw a message " do you want to know how to interpret dreams and see vision?" It further said if am ready...I should meet up under the pawpaw tree.

I first didn't take the messages serious....but later went back to it still in the dream.

Then I typed "Ok"

What got me curious in the dream was that... when I click the Send message on my phone. The Ok does look like the Ok I sent. It transformed to an unknown mingled letter of "H" a bit bigger letter similar to "S" and some dots at the lower side of the S. Like attached.

Am not good with drawing but it's quite similar to what I saw.

Hope the big boys can shed light to this.

Well looking at the pic you drew, when you flip it mirrow wise, it looks more like an integration symbol hanging over the letter K and not H in european style. In Italy for instance the letter H is pronounced with the sound of K as "aka" thus eliminating the usage of K completely in that language so that Kwara state will definitely have a H letter somewhere if we write it down... at least you know what I meant here. Of course in dreams or spirit, you could look at things upside down like an astronaut or flip the figure in your mind to what logically look best.

Integration means adding effort towards something linked to Kwara, maybe your family, or something festive like marriage or festive period. You got to play your part in this matter. In sum total, this is a sign of something good coming your way and family anyway. Remember me when you are enjoying the celebration sha .

Cloud007:
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Ok see my interpretation below

Enkaynwa:
Good evening all.
please is there any difference between heaven and the bosom of Abraham?
please I'll need more clarity on this.

Well let me explain...
Many people have glamorized the word BOSOM of Abraham, but in essence if you read other translation it is simply stating that Lazarus was taken to Abraham's SIDE. But may be you need some explanation as to what is Abraham's side? Before Jesus resurrected nobody that died (Enoch and Elijah did not die so should be excluded from this category) went to Heaven. Jesus had to be the first person to die and RESURRECT and GO TO HEAVEN, in order to earn the title the FIRSTBORN of the LIVING.

LUKE 16:19-23 “There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. 20 And at his gate was laid a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, 21 who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man's table. Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried, 23 and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side.

So where was Abraham when Jesus told this story? So it meant that no dead person went to Heaven till Jesus resurrected before He was able to take hold of the keys of DEATH and HADES and free his people and take their spirits home to HEAVEN. So where was Abraham's side? Then Abraham and all the righteous saints were technically kept in HADES on the paradise side, while the sinners were kept in hades on the DEATH side also known as hellfire and a force field separates these two sides (which is inside the belly of our hollow earth), and because you can see much farther in the spiritual realm in terms of miles, the rich man was able to lift up his eyes and see Lazarus in the distance on Abraham's side. Basically both places were the same regions for death souls, but suffering goes on in the DEATH and hellish section because satan had complete control there, but God refused the righteous to be tormented in the paradise side of HADES till Jesus came and took them to Heaven after He resurrected. So what had become of HADES section of paradise? It is currently under satan now, were living human satanic agents often visits and work in satan's laboratories, and are fooled to think ATLANTIS is a beautiful place to live in and there is no hellfire. When they die, satan gladly escorts his agents to hell and laugh at their foolishness... claiming he had been deceiving them all along!

Cloud007:
I had a dream few weeks ago.... after praying for divine access and direction.

In my dream.... My Fam travelled to my parents state ....I have a picture of festive period visit. Familiar faces were all around as usual like festive season.

I checked my phone and I saw a message " do you want to know how to interpret dreams and see vision?" It further said if am ready...I should meet up under the pawpaw tree.

I first didn't take the messages serious....but later went back to it still in the dream.

Then I typed "Ok"

What got me curious in the dream was that... when I click the Send message on my phone. The Ok does look like the Ok I sent. It transformed to an unknown mingled letter of "H" a bit bigger letter similar to "S" and some dots at the lower side of the S. Like attached.

Am not good with drawing but it's quite similar to what I saw.

Hope the big boys can shed light to this.

Well for me to assist you better I would need some further information relating to the dream!
1. Where were you when you had that dream? At your home, school, work, hotel, or while visiting.
2. Whats the name of your patents state?
3. What kind of festival did you think that was? Be more specific!

Hi guys,

There is a very strange thing that is happening allover the world called "chemtrails". This is the spraying of our skies above with smoke by special planes to cause artificial cloud to cover the sky. I wanted to comment on why the governments are doing this, but since it has not been announced publicly why, I will keep my opinion. Please see the public protesting again chemtrail in Italy and also see the next video how they use chemtrail in the sky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ22IeNfE-I


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUT-p2so_k4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxkjsSpad0A

Hi guys,

There is a very strange thing that is happening allover the world called "chemtrails". This is the spraying of our skies above with smoke by planes to cause artificial cloud to cover the sky. I wanted to comment on why the governments are doing this, but since it has not been announced publicly why, I will keep my opinion. Please see the public protesting again chemtrail in Italy and also see the next video how they use chemtrail in the sky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ22IeNfE-I


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUT-p2so_k4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxkjsSpad0A

finickykblazy:
I've been a ghost reader of this thread for a while now. I've been richly blessed by the messages here.. I'm rereading the whole thread over again, it has been a real eye opener.

I get dystopian like dreams & vision a times, sometimes when my eyes are shut, I see images of random people I don't even know, places & things. Another weird thing is, I see movie scripts or blockbusters playing out in my sleep, it's crazy.. I hear random names sometimes that I don't even know, I heard "Evan Roberts" one time. I was curious, so I googled it out & find out he was an evangelist. New years eve Sicily registered in my head, only to check & found out it's an island in Italy.
I don't know why I get this, it's somehow strange, even dates too sometimes..

The fire of revival shall continually burn on this thread, the works of darkness shall be exposed & disgraced.

Bro Charles I commend you sir & All other posters, God be with us all

Hello, ahahaha dont be a ghost reader, we want real humans here.

Thanks for commending bro Charles and everyone here, he did a great job from the onset to start this forum with enthusiasm for God, its paying off now! You are welcomed pal, and greetings from Sicilia the land of dreams, benvenuti!

providence338:


Greetings Bro Dencotext,

I'm a bit confused, I hope none of my posts condemned anyone, if so it's definitely not my intent.
In regards to my post you quoted, I was simply addressing Bro Aceed to watch out for mega pastors, as he's admitted reading some of their books.
They're virtually all priming their congregants to take the mark in one form or the other...many have already aligned themselves with the One World Religion via the pope. Namely Kenneth Copeland and Joel Olsteen. I live in California. Over here, Joel Olsteen is a known high-level warlock who ordains other false teachers...and Copeland is a greedy money grubber.

I don't know why you would ask me "if" I would take the mark, if you have read ANY of my posts..I almost always warn against the NWO and the mark needed to navigate through it. I live in the belly of the beast and everyone from entertainers like Kid Buu and regular employees are already taking the RFID chip all across America. Again, I have no idea why you would even question me on something so obviously eternally damning. Even in my last post, I've been consistent with such warnings:

- Churches that preach OSAS, the congregants will take the mark and still think they're still "saved". Many preachers in the USA are preaching this.
- Churches that preach prosperity, the congregants will feel God will "understand" them taking the mark so they can keep their jobs/livelihood/income, and continue to "prosper" as God would desire them to.
- Churches that preach tolerance to sin, the congregants are too lukewarm, double-minded, and dull of spirit to know or even care of the eternal consequences of taking the mark in the first place.
- Churches that preach re-tribulation rapture, the congregants will be highly disappointed when they realize the Messiah hasn't come back while the world goes to hell around them, and take the mark out of desperation, fear and even anger. The Bible warns only a select few believers will still hold out hope for Yahshua upon his return...(Luke 18:8 ). I personally believe this is because much of the church was told about a pre-tribulation rapture when the chronological events of the 7 Seals, 7 Trumps and 7 Bowls of Wrath in Revelation, DO NOT SUPPORT PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE.

Again, my posts are not meant to condemn, just warn. Anyone here is welcome to disagree, which is fine too. I don't get into arguments.

Hello Providence,

Please do not be confused. Yes I asked you these because some Christians said they can take the 666 RFID chip or the mark and still worship Jesus, it does not matter, others said no because God forbids it.

It alarmed me when Christians approve taking the 666 chip or mark, for example the Mormons approve it. Because of this reason I asked you because bible says everyone whose name is not written in the Lamb's book of Life will accept the 666 mark. So I naturally surmized that doctrinal differences in Christianity will not matter during the tribulation because you cannot say NO to the Beast or his 666 Mark unless your name is written in the Lamb's book of Life. John 1:8 says "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name..." that is what would count for the overcomers duing the tribulation!

Your reply is touching when you said you live in the belly of the Beast. God will help you because you love Jesus!

marttol:
Hello people of God, help me

Four days ago, my younger brother was sent a spiritual arrow, he was in school (ss1) when it happened, some how he was taken by my dad to somewhere, where he was given a substance made with schnapps, after then he felt a bit okay... Until my mother took him again somewhere, where incision was made on his body, he told me today that my mum took me him to those people who are called OSUN worshippers... He told me as they did that to him, he felt relief... But me being a Christian is not comfortable with it... he must have gotten some connections with demons I think... Help me please, my mother is really suffering cos she has been involved in so many traditional ways, I can tell you now that since my mother became a woman on her own she could not afford a rent on her own(She stays with people a move from house to house) ... In which when she was carrying my pregnancy, she said one night some people came in through the wall and removed the pregnancy from her womb.. She shouted, a woke my dad up, t next day they went to those traditionalist to do some sacrifice (my dad told me all this)... M mom and dad are not living together... (She only Came around when she heard what happened to my bro)
My Younger brother told his experience on night when four shadow people came into the room, one way holding a mortar another was holding a knife, the rest t didn't know, he said his voice was seized and the one wIth mortar tried to pound His head on floor, he weaved it, then the one with knife shook him by the side, he now woke up crying...

I just want to know the implication o effort of t Incisions made on his body cos he was even told to stop eating some food and he shouldn't put a bottle in his mouth...

I don't want the battle that got my mom to get my bro and i... He is just 17 and I'm 20... Please help people I of God.

Hi calm down, you are sounding too hysterical. The end of the world have not come yet.

We fight a battle of Faith. And if you lose Hope too soon it is not good. Do not give up even on your mother till the final whistle. You do not need to feel a spiritual anointing or Holy or the presence of God to act. You only need to believe what bible says about you and your family and claim it. Speak the Word. It is Life. Lay your hand on your brother pray and nulify any gbomogbomo juju on his body or life in Jesus name. Act fast. Preach to your mum about the power of Jesus, yarn her sweet stories of what Jesus is doing. When time comes pray and lead her to Christ!

Hi Aceed, now I must complain bitterly about western education... I no be boko harass guy sha . It is full of lies... I got A1 in geography at WAEC to tell you how much I love astronomy. They tell us that the nearest star is 4.2 light years away, making us feel totally secure. From were cometh our evil twin star NEMESIS? They said it did not show on any equipment because the dwarf star is not burning brightly (mostly on the infrared spectrum) till it is too close before we saw it... that it was never supposed to be there. How do I believe these witch-hunting fables in the name of science anymore? Please men you got to use your common sense and carry out your own researches. Your common sense is the best defense God has given you in these last days.... not until you accept that satan is the god of this world as the bible says, and that no government of any nation will come out and tell you to prepare for Planet X until it is too late, while these powerful society people prepare underground bunkers for their own survival only. Wake up, Planet X is here already but you won't find any mention of it by the government or mainstream media, you better fish out this info from paranoid and conspiracy minded people online.