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paxonel:
The question is, does it take a spirit to read and summarize a book?
Reading and understanding is a thing of the mind and not spirit

The Bible is not just an ordinary book like any other book

paxonel:
I asked this same question in a thread.
Was the word rapture mentioned anywhere in the Bible.
The response was no
all the scriptures they advanced to support rapture were all talking about something else, when we eventually summarize the whole chapter

Do we need to do summary when it comes to the things of the spirit?

genuineone:
This is not new in anyway you are just fulfilling the prophesy that in the end time there will be false doctrine in order to deceive people...Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Repent now so that you will make Heaven.. And I pray you will make Heaven in Jesus name (amen).

The op is absolutely correct.
But what i still do not accept about the post is him debunking rapture

paxonel:
Thanks

People are not ready to accept this truth

Good one

at 21, a girl should be in her husband's house, it is poverty that is causing this delay. But if you have decided to move ahead, why not?
he will pay the bride price later

ehe!
it's obvious no church in Nigeria has understand these things., they are all making noise

paxonel:
you have a very good insight of the scriptures,
you can see that religion is absolutely nothing and do no deserve the attention that people are giving it

thanks,
you know, I have my life to enjoy

Proximo73:
was Elijah a prophet of Judaism?

what do you think?
when you hear christians singing God of Elijah send down fire, is that not a miss priority?
Elijah never saw Christianity even though he prayed and wishes to see Christianity.
But here we are enjoying the Christianity.
Elijah wishes to be like us, we are crying,we want Elijah power of signs and wonders(esp pastors ), We are just being foolish

paxonel:
we are not waiting to go to heaven anymore. Rather, we are already in heaven.
Before Jesus crucifixion he says, seek ye first God's kingdom. But after his resurrection, he brought down his kingdom on earth.
so God's kingdom is not at hand anymore, God's kingdom is now here with us. God's kingdom is Jesus Christ inside us which is the holy spirit.
so, no end time
no rapture.
God's kingdom on earth has no end.
If you understand this truth, then religion is nothing to bother about again.
just live your life and be free

you are on point Op
Matthew 25:31.says When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
he made this statement before he was crucified.
But after his resurrection he came with his glory, the resurrection itself is his glory, the gate of heaven.
he asked his disciples to strive to enter the gate at this point, that is, they should strive to hold on their believe in him against all odds until the point of his resurrection which is the point or gate of heaven.

Weah96:
Will a parent watch his child jump off a bridge?

BTW, the bible God, since Muslims have theirs too, doesn't tolerate certain things. If the thing is not about loving God or loving your neighbor, he PROMISES to roast the soul of the deceased law breaker FOREVER.

What I was curious about is this, some people claim to talk to God and still go out and sin. They sin even though they KNOW that their parent is right there watching, and the fire is being prepared as punishment. It doesn't make sense to me. It is not a human behavior, humans are AFRAID of trouble naturally, especially big trouble. That's the reason why bank robbers, as bold as they are, wear masks on their faces. They don't want to get themselves in bigger trouble, other than trying to run away.

if we lie and our parents flog us for lying we becomes afraid and stop lying. we believe that as we were flogged it is God that is also purnishing us for lying.
But after purnishing us, he will not put us in hell fire again.
the same thing with armed robbers, they will be killed by hanging or firing squad. that is their punishment.
But if they were christians God will not put them in hell fire after they die

Weah96:
So you speak to God, or he speaks to you, and then you leave and break his rules?

Are you sure that you have spoken with the God? I can understand why children disobey their parents, the parents cannot be EVERYWHERE at once. But to claim to have a parent who is EVERYWHERE at once, and still go out practice disobedience is like bringing the ashewo into the sitting room of your parents house and smashing her right there in front of mumsy and her guests.

it depend on the parents.
some parents will accept anything, so long it is their children, while some parents will not tolerate at all.
i think God is one parent that tolerate all sort of things from his children

flexybobo:
read Matthew 5:20

for me, my righteousness has exceeded the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees even though i am currently a fornicator

CaptainJune:
No you don't. This quote below proves it.



Besides erroneously calling this passage prophecy, you misunderstand it to be a parable.

The living creatures are literal beings. They are heavenly creatures who praise God before His throne day and night.

heavenly creatures?
so eagles and lions are heavenly creatures?
do eagles and lions talk? how then do they praise?

whether i die commiting sin or not, i am already in heaven by grace

belabela:
Many Nigerian pastors are truly confused about what the gospel of Jesus Christ is. Hence most of them resulted to preaching another gospel.

There may be several reasons for their confusion but surely not the way the bible is written. It is most likely their understanding or lack of understanding the bible. Judaism and christianity are fully explained in the bible - unfortunately most of them tend to embrace judaism and hide under christianity when they get confused.

When I hear a pastor saying " I am not even sure if I will make it when Jesus returns" then I know he doesn't even understand the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. he doesn't understand that morality cannot make us right with God. he doesn't understand that no man was able to keep the laws given to Moses. He doesn't undersatnd that we cannot generate a righteousness that pleases God. Hence Christ fulfilled the law for us all. He lived under the law and fulfilled it. The righteousness we have is inputed to us becuase we believe in Christ. Hence the bible say "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God" - Acts 4: 12

The major difference between christianity and all other religions/faith is that a christian does not need to do anything to be saved. No amount of "good works" can save him/her. While other religions say " do more good than evil", "strive hard to be good", christianity says " believe on the Lord Jesus and be saved" - your faith will be counted unto you as righteousness. This is an offence to many - They ask, how can I not do anything? Yet that is it we do "nothing" - we believe in Christ and remain in him. The life we live is not a life of trying to be righteous before God rather it is the fruit of the Holy Spirit that God gives unto us when we believe. The christian does not do good to be approved of God rather his good works is a product (fruit) of Christ's finished work.

@OP your good works will not save you, Christ alone is the way to God!

"Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it." - Eph 2:9 (NLT)

i have heard Adeboye and Oyedepo saying that they are not even sure whether they will make heaven, Imagine.
what do you expect other billions corrupt Nigerian christians to say?

davien:
So everyone was a slave then?

all africans were slaves to the whites then, they are still slaves by one way or the other in this modern day

davien:
so what dumbed them down?...Satan?

they were already dumb since trans Sahara slave trade. Don't blame satan.
everything nor be satan

paxonel:
certainly, Matthew 24:31 is not talking about rapture.
infact, the whole Matthew 24 was a direct quotation of a written prophecy quoted by Jesus to his disciples on that day when the world ended.
Do you know that the world has already ended?
it ended since 2000 years ago.
another figurative language.
lol

the bible is too figurative.
if you didn't go to school it makes it practically impossible for you to understand certain statements of the Scripture.
especially that of Jesus Christ.
little wonder they say it takes the holy spirit to reveal the bible

Weah96:
Prayer is time wasting. How you should pray depends on the manner in which you hear your own God. So how do you HEAR your God, with your stomach, ears, or heart?

lol

flexybobo:
I think God will answer the Christian who speak loud and pray. The bible says the fervent prayer of the righteous availeth much, and there is power in our tongues.
we can use our tongue to make much things happen rather than stressing ourselves to do the work.
That is why, in our church we don't believe in hospital. When you are sick just open your mouth and speak the word, by his stripes we are healed

omo, you don enter o
lol

nicko28:
You have to speak out or cry out loud for Our Lord, 0our God and our creator to hear us even though He see our hearts, for example you have a child and he or she is hungry or want something but didn't tell you or the baby do not cry out for food and another of ur child is telling you dad or mum I want this, he/she even cry out loud, u will first attend to the one that cry out loud. Our Lord is so busying attending to prayer of his children who believe in him but will answer the one who asked and cry out loud. So pls don't pray in ur mind, speak out or cry out loud for Ur God to attend to you first.

you are right,
But again, a Christian who did not say anything at all as a form of prayer but mere wish that he should pass his exam and also study hard, and another christian who cry out loud praying for hours for God to help him pass his exam, yet he refuse to read his books.
Between these two christians who do you think God will answer his prayer?

flexybobo:
prayer is communication to God pouring out your heart, it is not thinking

what do you mean by pouring out your heart?
do you think God will not hear you until you become emotional and shout?
i think the op is right

Hildalicious:
You should be thinking of solutions to the plight of the poor rather than exempting yourself

am i the government?

flexybobo:
Those that were robbed before why didn't the blood of Jesus saved them?
You people are so nuts.

If people chooses to live their lives waywardly, how is it my business? why should i suffer for the wrong doing of other people?

flexybobo:
By the time armed robbers begin to come from these poor communities to hunt your wealth, then you will know it concerns you

they can't find me.
our house is covered with the blood of Jesus

You know, it's not my concern, so long i have my wealth,study outside the country, come back, get a good job and afford anything i want.

qbd2:
Dats just beinghuman, courtesy says pple don't do dat in public.

what courtesy? African courtesy?
Even kissing on screen, African parents will prohibit their children to watch as if it is some kind of ex rated film

flexybobo:
the op is not straight forward, except this is what he is trying to portray .
for couples to be romantic they have to know how to be nice first, to everybody. otherwise, their romance will not be true romance.
the reason is that, if the girl for instance do not know how to be nice to people, definitely, she will never know how to be nice to her spouse.
what she know is, she is in love, but she will not know how to go about loving him.
Then, a situation where the guy begins to endure the marriage set in, before you know there will be brake up.
so, being nice to people, though is not romance,is a necessary ingredient to make romance work. that's why they can be used interchangably in some context

thanks!

soulminister:
In Nigeria, people's perspectives differs. I learnt my lesson at a very young age that it isn't every lady who caught your admiration that you walk up to appreciate. most ladies will misinterprete your gesture as a flirt. only a few will show gratitude.

what leads to such?

either their experience with guys or they are immature in character or wisdom

#i rest my case

you are right

Proximo73:
it's because the girl will not approve of it.
she will prefer it done indoors

why?

Proximo73:
come to think of it, why do girls not kissing their guys in public?

you have noticed it too?
even the guys don't even make move to show affection publicly