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qbd2:
I still don't get ur use of romantic. U mean romantic to strangers or their spouse?

qbd2:
Op u know what u may have content, but the content just doesn't jam enough to give an overall meaning.
Ur title also conflicts with ur content.think it over and reconstruct ur post b4 I reply.

twosquare:
funny you, I don't belong to the cele denomination, even though they are part of the body of Christ. The Adamic realm is a terrestrial world, the Angelic realm is the Celestial world. Heaven is a planet just like our earth but much more bigger than our earth in a million fold and there are layers there. It is a location even among the billions of stars in the celestial and that is where God's Kingdom is for the time being. That's what am trying to say

twosquare:
Heaven is a planet in the celestial

paxonel:
do you want to repent because the kingdom of God is at hand or you want to repent because repentance is good on it's own?
please the kingdom of God is not at hand anymore, the kingdom of God is now

paxonel:
No heavenly heaven but the kingdom of heaven on earth, which is Christianity.
the kingdom of God will never end
Christianity will never end, it will last forever and ever.
Christianity is on earth.
that implies that this earth will last forever and ever,
No end

paxonel:
yes, Christianity is our faith, other names used to refer to Christianity in the scriptures are:
The kingdom of heaven or heaven (known as the kingdom of God ) as used by Jesus in all his parables, describing how Christianity will be when Christianity is finally established on earth at his resurrection, he will say, for example in.
Matthew 13:31 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven(Christianity ) is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field:
another one is:
Matthew 13:33 Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven(Christianity ) is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.
There was no Christianity on earth when he said these parables.
All these things have meaning,they have been fulfilled today.
other names for Christianity are
THE CHURCH(Matt 16:18),
TRUE WORSHIPPERS(john 4:22),
FAITH(anywhere you find the word FAITH from the book of act to revelation, at this time Jesus has ascended up ),
HEAVEN(believers on earth )
ETERNAL LIFE ON EARTH,
John 17:3 says And this is life eternal, that they might know thee(believe thee ) the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
Everybody in Christianity believe in Jesus as God , so everybody in christianity have eternal life in them.

paxonel:
no error my friend,
its for the learned to understand,
primitive minds can't understand my post.
For them to understand, they must first understand that that we are saved by our religion Christianity which is our faith and not by works.
the Bible says the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith, that is, from religion to religion.
it was Judaism first (old covenant ),and now it is Christianity (new covenant )
They must understand that we are saved to worship and worship is our life, not singing in church.
Thank God you say you are not disputing that. Worship goes beyond gathering,We were created to worship.
But the one you say lifestyle, it is wrong to say worship is lifestyle.
Nobody on earth has the right lifestyle, everybody on earth commit sin.
But we are saved by grace, that is how we were made worship, our name is now worship.(worship was verb in old testament and noun in the new covenant )
That is how Jesus kept the fire burning in us continually, non stop, till we die. As God commanded Leviticus that the fire of the alter should not be quenched.
therefore worship is a continous entity and not mere praying or prayer. that will end within one hour.
Our body is. now a greater alter with unquenchable worship through Christ.
Therefore church going is of no use to those who already know how to keep the 10 commandments except they are still learning to do so. Your Pastors or Apostles or Prophets or Teachers or evangelists are there to groom illiterates like you rightly say .
unfortunately, most Nigerian christians are still illiterates of the bible inspite all their church going. Common Christianity as the kingdom of God on earth they don't know.
That's why pastors are exploiting them

paxonel:
that was for the Jews, because the Jews had the old covenant which elapsed(ended ) the moment Jesus resurected, ushering us gentiles to the new covenant with them that believe

paxonel:
this is the problem with we nigerians, we don't reason logically.
i didn't put no matter the source in my statement,happiness is our first priority.
i didn't say worship nullify the need for gathering, i never condemned gathering. i even say we gathered to learn the bible which is good .
But my point is, worship has nothing to do with gathering or place of worship(as it was called before the crucifixion of Jesus ) .
remember, Jesus made this statement before he was crucified.
John 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh(the hour after crucifixion ), when ye shall neither in this mountain(the place of worship for the samaritans in those days ), nor yet at Jerusalem(the temple of the Jews at Jerusalem in those days ), worship the Father.
so you see, worship can never be act, because everything you do inside church(equivalent to temple ) is act.
act is physical motion of the flesh activities whether in church or anywhere,and not anything spirit.
the bible says what is flesh is flesh and what is spirit is spirit. that means flesh has nothing to do with spirit.
consequently, worship has nothing to do with church.
John 4:22 talked about the true worshipers,
who are the true worshippers?
the true worshippers are christians after Christ was crucified.
these are the people Jesus meant.
All of us in christianity.
Therefore, to worship is simply people(people with a state of being christians and not any other religion )and not any church activity.
it's takes high level of logical reasoning to understand it and be free from religion.
please, not forsake the gathering of the believers is not a commandment.
we all know what commandments are:
commandments are laws to help us from commiting sin, not laws to force us into church going.
commandments are, thou shall not kill, killing is a sin.
thou shall not lie
thou shall not bear false witness etc.
Because if you do this things there are purnishment for it.
i didn't see do not forsake the gathering among them.
therefore, i will simply see do not forsake the gathering as advice, not commandment. there was a reason, to encourage primitive new converts in those days to remain in the faith .
But today, there are millions of christians worldwide, we are educated now,we don't need that kind of encouragement.
we just know that Jesus is the way, not Muhammad.

paxonel:
To worship God in spirit and in truth simply means to believe that Jesus is the Christ, that's all. From that moment till you die, your name is called WORSHIP.
God sees you as worship when you are sleeping, playing football, in your toilet, at office or school, at parties with friends enjoying yourself.
Infact, you don't need church again.
you only go to church to learn the bible to improve your knowledge and may be, to sing praises to God, that's all. It's not compulsory.
Note:Emotional lifting up holy hands in church is praise, not worship

paxonel:
you ask very intelligent question,
i like you.
see, that very day Jesus was prophesying.
what he was saying was a prophesy that was already written about him and what will happen during the period when the Messiah will be crucified.
the prophesy must have said, this is what will happen IN THOSE DAYS when the Messiah will come.
as Jesus was talking, it's like, he was directly quoting the prophesy that IN THOSE DAYS (that is, in this generation ) And the people of that generation were listening, they didn't know that he was that Messiah that is to come.
so, he was prophesying what will happen, meanwhile, the fulfilment of the prophesy was happening right there in their eyes, they didn't know.
apart from the persecution of christians which happened after the resurrection,
all the rumors of wars, earthquake, deceptions, crucifixion, great tribulation, one taken, the other left behind ( what is confusing modern day christians that they are saying it is rapture) was happening right there in that generation Christ came to die.
after telling them everything, he said.
Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
so, everything happened in that generation. not in the future.
it was after the resurrection that Christ open their eyes to see all these things, that it just happened.

paxonel:
the great tribulation is what i just explained. the disciples following Christ.
the tribulation was the journey from
Galilee to Jerusalem the disciples went through
by following Jesus. they abandoned all that
they had (peter says we have left all and follow
thee) and went through the harsh condition of
the wilderness. the bible desribed that event as
the worst in the history of mankind Matthew
24:21.
immediately after the great tribulation, Christ was crucidied.
this is what happened during the crucifixion, check your Bible and confirm this.
then,immediately after that tribulation matt
24:29 says SHALL THE SUN BE DARKENED,the
moon shall not give her light, the stars shall
fall from heaven (all these point to one thing
that THERE WILL BE DARKNESS)
Luke 23:44 confirmed this when Christ was crucified .
And it was about the sixth hour(6am early in
the mourning ), and there was a DARKNESS
over all the earth until the ninth hour.(9am in
the morning )
also, earthquake was mentioned.
AND THE POWERS OF THE HEAVENS
SHALL BE SHAKENED (this signifies
EARTHQUAKE )
and truly, there was earthquake when Christ was crucified.
Matthew 27:51.confirmed this.
And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in
twain from the top to the bottom; AND THE
EARTH DID QUAKE , and the rocks rent
all these things happened after the disciples followed Jesus on a long journey to Jerusalem. that journey is the great tribulation.

johnydon22:
To the Muslims you also is an infidel and an unbeliever...
You are also an unbeliever to the pegans
to the Hindus etc

paxonel:
check your dictionary, as the name implies, an unbeliever is someone who doesn't share the same faith with you, not the person or people who commit sin.
the name formerly used for unbelievers who are people like Muslims, atheists etc, because they do not believe in Jesus is infidel.
But the word infidel is seen offensive, so it is not used in this modern day.

paxonel:
it is not only 144,000 Israelites that was mentioned in that Scripture. multitude of gentiles who went through the great tribulation were included among those who are ruling with Christ, if you read down

paxonel:
you are very correct
pls tell him o,

FrancisTony:
Crass!

Keep deceiving yourself. According to your bible in Revelation 7 and 14, only 144,000 people will make heaven and that means about 99.9% of people on this earth will go to hell fire. *No matter the hate on other religious group and atheists, na the same place una go enter* (Innit?)


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14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them?

15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food.

16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it?

17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.

18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.”
Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds.

19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that —and shudder.

20 You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless ? (See how your loving God threw this insult )

21 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar?

22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did.

23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,” [ b ] and he was called God’s friend.

24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.

25 In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction?

26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.




Anyways, not as if your God exists.

Iceflox:
what do you mean? that i should go and establish church and become a pastor?
my friend, the truth is for everybody, both the poor and the rich.
not only me.
how about you? go establish your church.
lol

wunmi590:
"If you really thought about who you are, who God is, and how much thanks you owe Him, you would want to go to Mass. The Mass would become the source and center of your spiritual life."

- James Stenson

These are common feelings, especially among young people but among many adults as well. The great Bishop Fulton J. Sheen, when conducting a retreat for teenagers, once gave a talk on the meaning of the Mass. He said, "If you don't get anything out of Mass, it's because you don't bring the right expectations to it." The Mass is not entertainment, he said. It is worship of the God who made us and saves us. It is an opportunity to praise God and thank Him for all that He has done for us.

If we have a correct understanding of Mass, Bishop Sheen said, it will become more meaningful for us. We will want to go to Mass. We will understand why the Mass is God's precious gift to us, and we wouldn't think of refusing that gift. Here are eight reasons to go to Mass:

1. The Command of God.

The Third of the Ten Commandments given to Moses by God is, "Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day" (Exodus 20:.

2. The Command of Christ.

Why should we keep the Sabbath holy by going to Mass? The Mass was instituted at the Last Supper by Jesus before his Crucifixion. The Last Supper was the first Mass.
When the hour came, he [Jesus] took his place at the table with the apostles . . . Then he took the bread, blessed it, broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body, which will be given for you. Do this in memory of me" (Luke 22:14,19).

When we celebrate the Mass, we repeat the Last Supper, as Jesus commanded us to do. In doing this, we remember and re-present his great act of love for us on the Cross — taking our sins upon himself so that we, if we follow his commandments, can live with him forever in heaven.

3. The Command of the Church.

The Church teaches that we must fulfill the command of Jesus ("Do this in memory of me" by attending Sunday Mass (or the Vigil Mass the night before). The Catechism of the Catholic Church (1994, pp. 493-94) explains that Mass attendance on Sundays and Holy Days of Obligation is the first of the six Commandments of the Church. These Commandments of the Church also require receiving Communion at least once a year during the Easter season, confessing any mortal sin as a preparation for Communion, and observing the prescribed days of fasting and abstinence. These Commandments spell out the minimal responsibilities of a Catholic. To fail to fulfill them through our own fault, the Church teaches, is a serious sin.

4. The Church speaks with the authority of Jesus.

Why should we obey these teachings of the Church? Where does the Church get its authority? From Jesus. In Matthew 16:18-19, Jesus made Peter the head of his Church — the first Pope. He gave Peter and the Church "the keys to the kingdom of heaven":

I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
The Church's authority in faith and morals is absolute because Christ's authority is absolute.


5. What we do at Mass.

The Mass is first of all a sacrifice — the perfect sacrifice, created by Jesus. Through the priest we offer Jesus, Body and Blood, to the Father, just as Jesus offered Himself to the Father on the Cross. In an unbloody way, we repeat — make present — Christ's death and Resurrection. Through this memorial of Jesus, we offer God our praise, sorrow for our sins, and deepest thanks.

The Mass is also a meal. At the Consecration, the bread and wine, through the power of the Holy Spirit, become the Body and Blood of Christ. Not a mere symbol, but Jesus's real flesh and real blood, under the appearance of bread and wine. When we receive Holy Communion, we receive Jesus Himself. He is real food for our soul. He said this very plainly: I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. My flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him. (John 6:55-56).

What are the benefits of Holy Communion? It strengthens our union with Jesus; He lives within us in a special way. It cleanses us from venial sins. (Mortal sins require forgiveness in Confession.) It gives us grace to avoid sin in the future. It increases our love of God and neighbor.


6. Why do we have to worship with other people?

God made us social beings. He wants us to come together in community to worship Him. Jesus said, "Where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I" (Matthew 18:20).


7. What are the consequences for others if we stop going to Mass?

James Stenson points out:

Our ancestors risked persecution, even death, to be able to take part in Mass. When you have children someday, they will need the graces and strength that come from the Mass. If you fail to pass it on because of your own indifference, you will do the gravest injustice to them and to God. You have the power to snuff out, in one generation, the faith that has sustained your family for generations. This is an enormous responsibility. You will have to answer to God for it.


8. The benefits of Mass.

If we give God a chance, He will help us experience the tremendous benefits of the Mass and the Eucharist. James Stenson writes:

Be patient. Bring an attitude of prayer and thanksgiving to Mass, and you will reap great spiritual riches: consolation, confidence, peace, deep happiness, and spiritual strength for the challenges of life.

Mother Teresa once wrote: "Jesus is my God/ Jesus is my Spouse/ Jesus is my Life/ Jesus is my Everything. Because of this, I am never afraid." Mother Teresa went to Mass every day. If we love the Mass as she did, we, too, will live in Jesus and he in us, and will we never be afraid.

http://www.catholiceducation.org/en/marriage-and-family/parenting/8-reasons-to-go-to-mass.html

Iceflox:
exactly,!
that's why school some people will will carry first, others will carry last.
yet they were in the same class studying the same thing

Iceflox:
how is this Scripture a law?
is it part of the 10 commandments?
the 10 commandments only asked the Jews to keep the Sabbath, not christians. there was no Christianity at that time.
Infact, Jesus didn't go to the temple, rather he went to work one Sabbath day like that.
when he was accused he told them he is the lord of the Sabbath.
if you accused me of not going to church i will tell you that Christ has made me lord of Sundays, i don't need church.
if a christian choosed to disobey this Scripture and go ahead to forsake the assembly what will happen?
nothing.
it won't make him less a Christian
he remains saved.

zyzxx:
ur flesh desire av subdue the spirit in u...

Let end the conversation here bro

How far how is today going?
Gud morning

johnydon22:
Taaaaa sharap ur bible say finking of a girl lustfully is a sin..
so make all of una hold una joystick no sexxx and no self service oooo...

zyzxx:
"When we tell you these things, we do not use words that come from human wisdom. Instead, we speak words given to us by the Spirit, using the Spirit's words to explain spiritual truths."
"But people who aren't spiritual can't receive these truths from God's Spirit. It all sounds foolish to them and they can't understand it, for only those who are spiritual can understand what the Spirit means." "Those who are spiritual can evaluate all things, but they themselves cannot be evaluated by others. For, "Who can know the LORD's thoughts? Who knows enough to teach him?" But we understand these things, for we have the mind of Christ." (1 Corinthians 2:13 -16).

johnw74:
Dictionary.com

fornication

1.
voluntary sexual intercourse outside marriage
2.
(law) voluntary sexual intercourse between two persons of the opposite sex, where one is or both are unmarried
3.
(Bible) sexual immorality in general, esp adultery

I'm not certain if ss is immoral by itself, but the thinking which can accompany it can be.

zyzxx:
bro, if science says we are higher animal, me I believe am God's image.
If science says selfservicing is good I'll so no
Jesus never selfservicing during is mission on earth and that my role model
i'm I clear sir.

zyzxx:
bro if u do it stick to urself, don't generalize, u av choose ur path
God bless u

Iceflox:
thank you very much!
each time i talk about this thing i always feel it is me something is wrong with, because people can not understand.
thank God you saw it too

Iceflox:
how about the one i say the righteousness of God was revealed from faith to faith, which is from religion to religion,
that we are saved by our religion which is Christianity, that everybody in Christianity are saved.
are you aware of that?
if everybody in Christianity are saved by grace which is Christianity why then the alter call?
are there Muslims in the congregation?
if pastors are making alter calls to invite backsliders back, or for healing or baptism of the holy spirit, it's ok, I am not against that.
But alter call to win souls that they should be saved, people who are christians should be saved? it is ridiculous.
why were they christians in the first place? why do they have Grace?
first of all, are you aware that everybody in Christianity are saved?
that the kingdom of God is Christianity, if you understand Jesus parables?