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Sissie: at bolded i think thats a sin, i dont think its allowedIt is in the quran. When i find d verse, i will post it. |
3. A man can replace his wives with other women(without any reason). This is different from divorce. He just decides he needs a new wife, maybe after they are four and goes ahead to divorce one and replace with another. A man in Ibadan is known for this and even Senator Yerima was said to have done it with one of his child brides. I cant imagine being such a woman. As in, being replaced like an old rag ![]() |
Thanks bnty fulaman Sissie and Tbaba for your contributions. Let us look at something else. 2. Marriage to Minors. The Qur'an says that the best of examples are in the prophet(S.A.W). He married a 9 yr old and Muslims from difrerent parts of the world follow his footsteps. The girls however end up having VVF as complications of childbirth. We dont av records of VVf from the time of the prophet though. The prophet would have done the best of things. And the best of things should not have been harmful. Mythought though. I may be wrong. The other problem is that many of the girls seen at Vvf centres are abandoned by the men who put them in that way only for those men to go for other minors to be put in the same situation again. Please help me see reason with this. |
Sissie: wa alaykum salam.The thing is, if Islam asks these men to stick to one wife, they WILL. Men don't ever stick just because they are married to many women anyway. Discipline is what makes the difference. A man who has four wives can still have concubines if he wants to. We see it happen everyday. Note that, I am thinking in relation to how these things have negative impact on the same society we claim they protect. Look at another situation where one of the wives goes out to commit adultery, brings in HIv or other STIs and then infects the other wives through the husband. and I have heard of this. |
tbaba1234: C. Trouble in polygamy is as a result of the adults, failing to act right. My dad is a product of a polygamous and the kids were alright. If not for resemblance, you might mistake the maternity of a few of them.It is not the same. Imagine being the child of the unfavoured wife. Even the peophet said that he had no control over his feelings for Aisha. Or imagine being the unfavoured wife. If polygyny was to solve societal issues and the prophet knew what was best for us, I think it would simply have breed love nd a great level of understanding rather than jealousy, hurt and ill feelings that affect people throughout their lives. I have seen people(even a rcent one just last week) who left Islam because of the traumatic childhood they had from polygyny. |
tbaba1234: B. In Islam, societal benefit is.more important than the feelings of an individual.But individuals make a society. The home front is the most important part of the society. Things that occur there reflect on the whole society. That said, non of the messenger's (peace and blessogs be upon him) wives had a bad word to say about him after his death. They all spoke in glowing terms. Infact, they even spoke in glowing terms about themselves.I didnt expect them to say bad things after His death but a lot was reflected in their behaviour. There was a plan to challenge Aisha for being the favoured wife though. And there was the plan to say that the honey from Zainab's room had a bad smell..and Aisha broke someone else's plate....etc. And these women were the Mothers of the believers. What wouldn't a 2014 woman do? To make it seem like the psychological and mental edfects are bearable would be wrong. A lot of mental torture goes on, as I have heard of and seen. Jealousy does not always translate to bad belle.But I am talking of real time bad belle here. The wife of the prophet who was jew was insulted by Aisha for being jew. Imagine all the other possible insults a woman can receive from the co-wives especially if they consider her not up to their own standards. There are many successful polygamous homes, it does not mean that the women did not get jealous. It just wasn't a destructive one.But for every successful one, there are 99 unsuccessful ones. I know a man who is always boaating lying that his wives are on good terms and perfect he practices his polygyny whereas the first one tells people close to her how much she has been suffering in the marriage. I am not saying that ot cannot be good. Afterall, a favoured wife and maybe her Children as well, we say they have it good. B2. Reconciliation would involveSeriously? |
tbaba1234: Salam,I just wish that the divorce is a way out for the man as it is for the woman rather than polygyny. tbaba1234: As regards polyandry, there are numerous problems even with the concept. In Islam, marriage is a transfer of guardianship from a father to the husband. There is no such thing as shared guardianship.I was not saying that polyandry is a solution to it. I was only pointing out how it is easy to give thean a way out and not the woman. Actually polyandry would have to have its own peculiarities which may not have to go with the woman performing those Islam-given duties that u mentioned. But looking at it even from the angle that Islam is for yesterday, today and tomorrow, you will realise that the paternity cannot be an issue at this era. And matriarchy could as well be a way of deteining lineage. (just giving other possibilities). A2. The choice depends on the individual, most muslims are monogamous.The black American community is not an Islamic one. Their problem would be better solved by gun control, poverty alleviation, and Education. Having larger familiea via polygyny as a way out will only provide more people for the justice system. War-torn parts of the world, where nukes and missiles kill boten and women? We are not in a battle era anymore. And tge world population even says that there are more men than qomen in the world. |
[quote author=Joejonah][/quote]And what is ur job specification in that hospital? Are u one of the consultant orderlies? |
hayoakins: To an extent, he's right but experience most times supersedes qualification. What the 30yrs experienced matron knows may save the patient's life and not what an inexperienced doctor can prescribe. Being a doctor, it's obvious that the lawmaker's objectivity on this issue is impaired.Dont you say that, man. An average Nigerian is uneducated. In fact more than an average is. A nurse's experience is not in the field of diagnosis and treatment. A nurse's 30yrs experience only supersedes that of junior nurses. Not a doctor's. The rigorous training of doctors ensures that they are competent enough to do what they are to do at each stage of their training(n.b doctors train for life) I Must say that an average Nigerian Doctor is GOod(or stuffed as they say). The people need to be more trusting and appreciative of their efforts. I have met a good number and I'm very impressed at how much they can do with the little resources at their disposal. I expect the public to be demanding answers from the government. Y would a responsible government allow the health system to go down for this long?? And allow the masses suffer?? Johesu members av bn going to work doing nothing all d while. Doesn't that even show that the reason patients come to the hospital is to consult with doctors(physicians?). And no, the CMd can only be a doctor. Allowing others is only to create an impending chaos. Why can't the government see that? JONA Just has to go. It is unthinkable that all sorts of civil unrest keep happening under a government. Tjis is a spineless government. |
PENMIGHT: Mar'haba.Thanks. Pls contribute to this thread. https://www.nairaland.com/1820346/gender-family-issues-islam |
1. Polygyny - a man can marry up to four wives but a woman cannot. I have been very vocal about my thoughts on this institution. I have spoken in support of it in the past but the more I give it a thought, the more I find it hard to accept. A. People who support polygyny say that it benefits A man who may not be satisfied by one woman. But what about women who may not be satiafied by a man? A2.Islam preaches abstinence b4 marriage and Muslim men and women abide by that. Do you think that it becomes more difficult to stick to a woman after marriage than it is to practice abstinence before it? I just think that that line of thinking does not hold water. B. Does Islam care for the emotional/psychological state of the women in these marriages? Aisha's reports of jealousy are well documented despite being the favoured wife. What did the other women feel like even as the peophet chose her laps for his final moments. Competition/jealousy and bad belles throughout a marital life is not something I'd wish anyone so I keep on wondering if it is worthwhile. B2. There is not much room for reconcilliation with wife in dispute with her husband. Her bed is left while he warms his bed with the other women. Unlike if she is the only one and the need for a quick reconciliation may happen. C. How about the Children from these marriages? Not that this occurs in all cases but when it does hapen, They are constantly aware of the troubles in the home. They may be exposed to competition from the very beginning and may never be in accord with their siblings. |
Sissie: open and ask lets discuss.The link. https://www.nairaland.com/1820346/gender-family-issues-islam |
qstar: He has deactivated his account.Aww |
Salam alaykum. First and foremost, I am a Muslimah(alhamdulillah). I pray Allah strenghtens my faith. Please pray for me. This thread is for Muslims to contribute on. Islamic/Muslim opinion only. This is not to speak against any part of Islam but to bring some of the issues that bother me into open so my brethren here can help me with them. And other people might learn as well. We will have this discourse, putting these in mind. A. Islam is for Yesterday, Today and tomorrow B. The things that Islam teach us make our lives better as Islam is a very practical Religion C. That we do the things we do as Muslims because we believe that there is reward in Paradise and that we hope to be safe from hell. This thread is not one to be considered for the home page |
olumuyiolaoluwa: lack home training.Alainironu |
Danrizzle: This fellow's stup:id! And call me dumb, no morE!!! But have it in mind that I'm sympathetic to palestinians mudered, because of some dumb fanatical islamic law.Ignorant fool. Obviously, you don't even know what this is about. It is not about any Islamic Law. And I am not even speaking as a Muslim. Many non-Muslims speak against Isreal and their war crimes. But the likes of you are too lazy to read in order to get educated about what the matter really is and are too stupiid that whatever Isreal and or the West does is okay and fine. |
Opiosko: Sister when u have kids, allow hamas to teach them nothing more that how to hate, use them as human shield and use ur family house to store rockets and fire mortal at others. Isreali response may be heavy handed, but hamas madness and insensivity to her own civilians is of war crime proportion. The Op who came here to post outright lies is not helping Palestinian children in any way. How can u win others to ur cause through falshood?Who is ur sister? Idioot dont get personal with me.Most of u are too stuupid to make use of ur common sense when talking issues. |
olumuyiolaoluwa: Please, I will advise you to relocate to the Arab nation so that the society don't get misled. Peace.Oponu |
Danrizzle: Ofcourse, i did. And that dosen't in anyway make me dumb, immoral or racist. The isrealis and the palestines are engaged in a conflict(war) aren't they? Its not like palestines are sitting peacefully in their homes, they carry out deadly attacks on the israeli soil. The reason why the jews ain't suffering substantial casualties, is because they chose to formulate a policy that has its priority set on protecting the lifes of its citizens. They are not like islamic arabs that don't value human life, you see them here and there, initiating demonic islamic doctrines, beheading and stoning to death their children, brothers, sisters, wives. If they (stupid) palestines were to be in the shoes of the israelites and vice versa, am sure they would have started a campaign(jihad) to purge the jews out of that part of the world. They are so many bigots in NL, i do not think am the most notable. You top me in that chart.YOU are either plain dumb or an unrepentant foool. It is a war started by who?? Who is the original victim of this war? Are children being killed and by who? And despite these, you classify the arabs blood suking in comparison with the Isrealis. You are silly to think war crimes are okay so far you are powerful enough to carry them out. Did you understnd what you wrote at all?? Are you human enough that you are supiidly blind to the plights of the Palestinians.. |
Get a psychologist. Or find a mental clinic. You might get the needed help there. |
Danrizzle: 'Isrealis go nothing to do with black africans'. Are blacks now settled in gaza, please don't come here with fabricated truths, looking for who to drum up support for your blood-sucking arabic islamists.Did u really call the arabs blood suckers while talking of Isreal? You must be the dumbest, immoral racist I ever had the misfortune of reading of on this NL. |
What does born again mean? |
Where is amanfrommars?? |
I want to open a thread on gender issues and Islam. I have had to change my mind on them because they appear to be criticising some aspects of Islam. But some of those things genuinely bother me and I av been far away from Islamic studies for quite a while ![]() What do u guys think of this?? |
sino: There is this case of a woman I know in my hood, a Muslimah and she got married to a Christian, an igbo man, for that matter. I don't know her reasons for marrying him, but today the man is now a Muslim and the wife now uses a jilbab.Thanks. That is like the case we read of at the Family Section. But do you really blame some of these ladies? Pressure to be married and unsuitable Muslim suitors are some of the things I have heard of o. Maybe the Muslim men they meet dont meet their criteria and the others do. |
Sissie: Oya tender your CVAre u seriously asking for CV? You should already be ble to tell now. He said he is pretty.. :-D |
Sissie: I wonder ohLol. Nairalanders and mind reading. |
Empiree: haba! why u want to marry non-Muslim man nau while we nice, good looking, handsome, pretty, soft spoken, pretty head, magnificent man like Tbaba?. I beg make una marry am nau. He's single n lookingWhat in that post suggests that I am trying to marry a Christian?? |
vedaxcool: Yay deols is back, welcome! ![]() |
Sissie: its fornication (not adultery) because theirs no marriage between a muslim woman and a non muslim man.Ok |
ameenahz: An invalid marriage is tantamount to adultery.Thank you for the link. I find it very informative. |
The op should have added United States to the title. |



