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Who is she??
We dont know her

JessicaRabbit:
While it might not have been your intention, I appreciate you acknowledging my writing style. I do strive to express myself clearly and concisely, but my aim isn't to "shame" others. If anything, I'm encouraged by well-reasoned arguments in a proper discussion. I agree that basic communication is vital, but dismissing entire historical movements like ancient atheism as "pointless" demonstrates a disregard for intellectual curiosity. Understanding philosophical discourse, even if we disagree with it, is crucial for informed discussion and personal growth.

Regarding your claim that questioning the status quo requires proof to "cancel out the popular opinion," I don't think that's a logical assessment. The burden of proof lies with those making extraordinary claims, not with those questioning them. The existence of gods, being an extraordinary claim, requires compelling evidence, not the absence of counter-proof. As for challenging the status quo, it's precisely this process that has led to incredible advancements throughout history. Progress often thrives on questioning established beliefs like challenging societal norms, and other anachronistic ideologies. Instead of dismissing alternative perspectives as pointless, why not engage in a genuine exchange? Perhaps you can share why the presence of gods is crucial to your worldview, and I can share my reasons for embracing a different perspective.

The beauty of intellectual exploration is about critically analyzing all existing knowledge and building upon it, not discarding them. Fossil records are fantastic tools, and science continues to leverage them alongside countless other resources like radiometric dating, genetic analysis, and cosmological observations to understand our origins. You have to realize that science is not in the business of providing absolute truths, but rather constantly evolving models based on new data and discoveries. It's a perpetual journey of refinement, not a destination with a singular answer. Maybe instead of seeking the ultimate "why," we can focus on the "how": How did the universe form? How did life emerge? How did we, as humans, evolve? These questions, while seemingly less grandiose, lead down fascinating paths that can unlock incredible insights into our place in the cosmos.

I think you're being highly disrespectful by asserting that my lack of belief is a "lie". Don't fool yourself into thinking you actually know anything about me. Your claim also reveals a serious misconception you seem to have. The simple reason I don't believe in gods is because of the lack of convincing evidence. Your hasty assumption here is synonymous with the typical Christian arrogance of presupposing the motives of atheists, without caring to ask them why they share their sentiments towards religion. Furthermore, the assertion that a "true seeker" must combine religion, science, and philosophy is a fallacy of the excluded middle. There are countless individuals who pursue knowledge and meaning through various avenues -- artists, musicians, historians, and yes, even atheists. Limiting the path to truth to a specific combination fosters division and hinders open-mindedness.

I find it odd that you admit to using the Bible solely for historical records, while neglecting its religious content, because it raises a lot of questions about confirmation bias. Are you only willing to accept historical information from the text that aligns with your pre-existing beliefs? Historians rely on a multitude of diverse sources to paint a complete picture, and the Bible needs to be critically analyzed within this context.

The earlier you realize that the world is far more nuanced than a simple binary of "religion" versus "atheism", the better for your intellectual growth and progress. The journey towards meaning is more valuable than reaching a pre-defined destination.

Firstly, I am sorry for that very statement of "Lies" and "delusion", I didnt mean to be disrespectful to u

Secondly, I noticed u already had the belief that Christians are usually arrogant and not openminded enough when having this kinda convo with an atheist and that surely reflects in how u keep talking about thing i never ever mentioned in my comments, It is u who isnt careful enough to respond to contents of my texts but instead choose to address me the way u would address the past xtians u have had this kinda convo with



U really do not know if i am a xtian but u keep being skeptical about most of the things i wrote..
The oldest book in history is the "Epic of Gilgamesh", and it was written just 1987 year before the first book of the bible, which is Genensis(written in 1513BCE). I used Bible here as reference cause its the oldest known popular book but u were surprised i said i used it to track ancient civilization but instead assumed I'm a xtian...Fallacy of hasty generalization


Again, seeking for the truth about our existence via music,art and the other things u listed there arent a valid way to go about that as most of these things are based on some opinions of individual, they are hard to be countered by logic and cant even be tested over time, hence my choice of religon, science and philosophy which not only have a universal acceptance but is wide open to scrutiny and criticism by people of diverse knowledge, some can even be tested over time and this will be the best tools to use in my seeking of truth

Also, the first comment of mine u quoted was about the diverse books i read in my bid to know the "How" of everything and my conclusion about the whole thing was what brought us here...I am saying this as a guy who has not only read extensively on ancient Greek and Roman Philosophy but also as one who had to delve deeply in religion and science to know the truth

Funny how u still think my decision not to base my conclusion on ancient historians who wrote also on things they never saw with their own eyes, but on scientific methodologies on the exploration of Life in earth by few of the finest scientist mankind has ever had is an incorrect decision

U can choose whatever way to seek your truth, but I, wiil always go for the trio of Religion, science and philosophy

Your English dey intimidate me sef...I con dey write like pry1 pikin...Abeg just take am easy

IduNaOba:
So thing that's in every place you go to
Even dubai
Nawa o

Your basis for good economy and government

Lol...so there are nothing unique to some developed countries

U think we should keep copy past anyththing 😂🤣🤣

ShoeGetSize:
This is the most recent official rate. Imagine what the parallel market rate is.


https://www.hostpic.org/images/2402251434410108.jpg

U choose to imagine than make findings 😂🤣🤣

Na why I no dey follow Una dey argue be this

It's about beer parlor gists

Lol...U guys hate Nigeria so much that u pray everyday that it fails

We've seen Tinubu seal deals with Saudi,Germany,UAE,China, Indian and Netherlands but at each case, obididents comments has always bern "Propaganda, shey na wetin go comot hunger be this..."

No thread about any one of them until this


I used to say that the logically worried individuals among this group resides here 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

If u don't hail him then, your criticism now just showed you're a true hater

poshestmina:
Age is a number when a MINOR is not involved.

Ok, then she should consider marrying him in the next 5years when he's 18

How humans think their opinion matters on general issues baffles me a lot

There are 8billion people in the world, who and what u can marry is no one's business...

You're just irrelevant in the grand scheme of things and your choices is useless to us all

yarimo:
This is how ABIA STATE will look like after ALEX OTTI is done defrauding the state

It's already taking shape already

You deal with facts and reality!

Farrason:
Success is measured by achievement. Can u list your verifiable achievement let's compare.

Doctors went on strike for 11months under Obi

Imagine how terrible the health sector would have been if that was on a national level

Na to go dey learn herbs be that 😂🤣😂😂😂😂

JessicaRabbit:
@DevilsEqual

Perhaps your own vocabulary needs a bit of dusting off if you really think impressive use of grammar is connotative of a lack of originality.

You don't necessarily have to choose between scientists and unknown story tellers, because (1) that would be a false dichotomy, and (2) there's more to life than that. There are other possible sources of knowledge and wisdom, such as philosophy, art, or personal experience. Science and religion are not outright enemies, they are just different ways of looking at the world and ourselves. Sometimes they clash, sometimes they agree, and sometimes they inspire each other. It all depends on how you see it. And your assertion that no ancient philosopher was an atheist is ridiculously false. Long before Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens, there were already ancient thinkers who didn't buy into the god hypothesis. Take the Carvaka gang from India, for example. They were way ahead of their time, back in the 6th century BCE, when they denounced gods, souls, and karma, in favour of nature and matter. And then there were the Greek rebels, like Protagoras, Epicurus etc, who got in trouble for questioning the divine. Maybe they weren't all hardcore atheists, but they sure didn't follow the herd when it came to religion. I'd advise you to remain silent if you're not privy to the knowledge of certain facts because you could easily come across as an intellectually dishonest individual when you make bald claims without doing any research to back them up.

My lack of belief isn't a declaration of war on faith. It's a personal conclusion drawn from years of grappling with the big questions. I haven't found the gods you seek, but I've found something far more precious: the freedom to think critically, to question assumptions, and to seek truth wherever it may lead, even if it means stepping outside the cozy confines of popular belief. So, instead of demanding proof for the absence of something, perhaps a more fruitful inquiry would be: why do you need the presence of gods in the first place? What void do they fill in your worldview? Perhaps by exploring that, we can both find something a little more profound than "evidence and proof."

P.S Calling your pet theory "the most important question" is like claiming vanilla is the only flavor of ice cream. Sure, it might tickle your taste buds, but to deny the other flavors is to narrow your palate beyond recognition.

Just seeing this and by your first paragraph, it's clear that u have a superior use of English words, so trying to shame others for that isn't gonna add anything to u and it's actually needless
As long as I can try communicate in basic English, and since I do not have any interest whatsoever in being an Author, I guess I am good to go



Now, U mentioned one Indian philosopher and a few other Greeks,it's true that this guy's questioned Divinity but again, it's pointless diving into that topic, challenging the status quo, only to return with no proof to back up your challenges or even a very reasonable argument to cancel out the popular opinion.





Again, I'm not searching for any God,my question is to know how we get here and in answering that, I have to keep reading up on diff people's opinions, theories and counter theories of people who not only asked same questions in the past but also used some improved tools like fossil records and all to explore what might have been before our arrival, in a bid to know the true Genesis of all things


Telling me to discard that is very laughable...as my own reasoning, observations and knowledge would never open my mind to things that were, within and outside this universe and that would make me believe only my own lies guided by my very myopic opinion on humans evolution and that of our universe


If u care not about how we get here, that's fine, u can live your life anyway u want, believe your lies and enjoy your 100years on earth but every true seeker I have known have had to combine religion, science and philosophy and all would shed more light on things

I even use Bible to track the records of the earliest ever written book just to know how long ancient civilization started,not even because of the religious contents in it and No, I never mentioned divine intervention as an answer to anything or never stated where it is needed

Stop going about using defective logic to twist men head
Which one be "Why should always be the one to cook, not like she will also be the only person to eat the food"

Also, Fairness in all things : Treat your guy the same way u would want another lady to treat your male siblings

Eunoiaa:
Na only that 5'7" disqualify me sha. 😒

Jeez

U short o...but u made up for that with big English

Imagine standing beside a 6ft5 guy

gidgiddy:
He is right about one thing, Nigeria is lawless, and the whole world knows

And when they know, what will they do

Cause 've never seen Nigeria get punished for holding that guy in prison till date

The way u guys worry about the opinion of foreigner on internal issues is baffling

ResidentSnitch:
I can sense that this your laughter is forced and not from your heart.
It is getting to you.

Cry aunty
U are up there with the worst bigots here

Bro, U dribble all of them

Which one be say by 2027, u no go still vote am by God's Grace

U dey para bro

SoNature:
Apparently, the Yorubas will finally wreck Nigeria with the way they are all over the internet defending a man who knows absolutely nothing about how to run this country.

No be this guy dey always preach fairness Very hypocritical being

U be Igbo

iwaeda:
APC taking Nigeria back to the Stone Age.

But if this was abroad, You'd applaud it and even commend them for trying out other means of transportation

But as per Atiku pikin wey u be, na to dey see negativity for everything

Benjamin Franklin said "Neccessity is the mother of invention" and now this issue just brought out creativity in Buharis people

Good Bless PBAT

We hope to see more creative side of Nigerians

With Facts

OP lemme prepare your mind for something. Majority of those that will come up here to choose ABJ would bash Lagos and still many of them resides in Lagos

Na una people

I'd go with Lagos tho as its easy to connect with high value people that can easily change your life

Plus, Almost any form of business will survive there


In ABJ, u go struggle to meet better people, dem no dey live for where u fit stay
U also cant compare the commercial activities of Lag to Abj so business no dey fit survive easily for here

Bobloco:
I don't understand this: "Naira is finding its level."

Throughout the Goodluck Jonathan era, when naira was below N250 to a dollar,  was that not its level

The truth is, Tinubu and his patch patch CV CBN governor are incompetent and clueless.

In fact, Tinubu is a dullard.

No Staement of substance
No financial analysis to back your claims

Just pure tantrum and pessimism as per Obi supporter wey u be

Still hoping to meet a logically sound Obi disciple one day

SoNature:
Naira will keep crashing as long clueless people continue to manage Nigeria's economy.

An Expert has just spoken on this, he gave his analysis based on his years of experience in financial audit, economy and investment values but as per say u be Obi supporter wey u be, an enemy of the state and as per the deity wey u be, U just said "Naira will keep crashing", no anaylysis, no logical statement just what u think

SMH...Most Obi supporters arent as logical as they always want to show us they are

JasonScoolari:
Obi removed food from this E-diot mouth 😄

U didnt drop Obi's post on those issues that happened in the SE to counter Omokri's points but instead, u went ahead to say somem unverified shi

U guys are f***ing hypocritical and cant analyse issues logically where it supports with your bias or not

emperor4love:
Na fr Nigeria e be chief priest no be London beside dis niggaz liv fake life

Fake life?? How??

Dude had connections and he's a big boy too

But honestly, Davido na your guy, u no too need to dey famz am everywhere

Omo...A 30+ guy simping for girl they are far older than is a common something

Chasing a lady thats emotionally unavailable is the most stressful thing in life, next to explaing further maths to a dullard

Onetis is the reason for this...he thinks she's the best gift for Mankind

Science has done alot for us...Its unthinkable to see humans get to this level of advancement but here we are


The most brilliant person know that 'Science and technological advancements doesnt in any negate the existence of a Creator" Sir Francis Bacon & Albert Einstein

Before some dummy will come here to throw jabs at Religion for doing lesser for hummanity than Science

The Galileo part hit me hard
Was he really a non-conformist??

He only saw what no other people could see and I feel its normal for such person to challenge whatever archaic belief that has ever been in the system

I get your point nonetheless

JessicaRabbit:
Calling atheism a "lie" implies it's a belief system, which it isn't. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in any deities. You can't be "wrong" about not believing in something that hasn't been convincingly demonstrated to exist. Also, picking three prominent figures from one scientific field isn't an exhaustive exploration of atheism. Atheism draws from diverse disciplines like philosophy, psychology, and anthropology, offering arguments beyond evolution. Science doesn't claim to possess ultimate truths, but rather explains phenomena through models based on evidence. Evolution isn't "faith" – it's a constantly evolving framework supported by mountains of data. It doesn't negate the awe of existence; it enriches it with a deeper understanding.

Engaging in respectful discourse, exploring competing evidence, and acknowledging the complexities of the unknown are hallmarks of intellectual honesty, whether you're religious or not.

Na AI u use write this thing abi na so u sabi English reach

First of all, either its a belief system or not is irrelevant to me...I care so much about the origin of life and if Scientists dont have the answer, I'd be foolish to follow a random unknown story teller with zero Knowledge of our Universe and Multiverse. No Ancient philosopher was an atheist plus anthropological evidences even debunk evolution theory than it did support it

According to Rene Descartes, he said " If u are a seeker of truth, then u should at least at one time in your life doubt anything u ever believed"


I took that piece personally and went ahead to doubt the existence of God, since science is the best invention in mankind history, its only normal that i resort to scientic researches and books written by only the people who have explored our galaxy enough, those with sound empirical proofs to negate any belief system.


So If u as an athiest, just woke up one morning to counter a popular belief, then u must also present your own evidence and proof as to why u think those are not right

I dont engage atheists who cancel religion and science...whats there to hold on to anymore

I dont engage atheists that do not even care enough about the origin of life... cause if u do, you wont ask me not to care about scientists that attempted to prove how life came into being. Cause thats the most important question

Righthussle:
Lol.. where did I mention what I believe?

But then you're an atheist and every world-renowned atheists belong to either Big Bang group or those who believe in Evolution

Theists, Proponents of Big Bang and the Evolutionary biologists proposed the three most famous theories of Origin of life and its normal for any educated person to go with either the Physicists(Stephen Hawkings) or the Biologists(Richard Dawkin/Charles Darwin)

So i assume u belong to one of them and thats what my previous post addressed

If u then dont believe in the black hole, Evolution or Creation, then...u really havent made a research and quest into the origin of life

Righthussle:
Which god is a good god?

Relax guy
U also believe that life came from an organic soup that has just 1 in 14000 chance of ever occuring, whereas in Mathematics, anything with over 1 in 1050 chance of ever occuring is called null and void

To even think u believe either big bang explosion/Life from an Organic soup ever happened 10billion years ago, despite no eyewitness or any form of written document to support it until in the 21st century is even more funny

Isnt that even a greater faith?? this kind faith big pass all those religious people own

It is for good
I hereby withdraw my support for any intending couples either by cash or in kind till the end of time

I no dey gree make anybody use my head again

That God does not exist
I used to believe this lie until I decided to pick us some books to read
Those books are :
1) Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins, an evolutionary biologist

2) On the origin of Time and also "Brief Answers to Big questions" both by Stephen Hawkngs, a world-renowned physicist who wrote extensively on big bang theory

3) On the origin of species by means of Natural selection by Charles Darwin... another Evolutionary biologist


Thats it...I gave up on atheism forever...it takes even greater faith to believe the bull crap origin of life stories propounded by those guys