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olubankemi:
Lmao @ ur response.

Abi wetin person no go hear
@Rezzy,just as Christ said by his stripes your baby is healed in Jesus name. Be strong Sis.

Godmother:
@ All mamas
A family friend told my mom that a child not breastfeeding can be the work of 'awon aye'. She said the baby will be seeing a pair of eyes glaring at her when she tries to suck and that the remedy is a leaf used to wash the breast. Pls who has heard of this before and how true is it

Like criously I love that your family friend already, she should be given an award for comedian of the yr

Hello house,how is you, my greetings to everyone,eku ise

JOYlikeArivER:
Plz lovely mothers in d house plz kindly help me out...cant tell wats is really happening to my baby leg it started off like pimple n started expanding..I am using vistaplus as adviced BT no positive result yet...plz don't ignore my post plz

That looks like ring worm,pls see a pead or better still dermatologist

Ariegurl:
Hello Zaynie mama and other mamas. Pls I just discovered am pregnant and as advised, pregnacare is on now.but someone told me yesterday that I should use Pregnacare Omega3 or something instead of "Pregnacare Original "
pls should I still to it or I change to Omega3 when I finish this one?
Thank u u

Congrat dear and happy bumping. They are both good just that the second one has more (Omega 3), so you should decide base on your pocket. You can finish that one before changing if you decide to

DANZAK:
God will continue to give us more wisdom and strength to run the home front.

Crious one oh,on the strength part,God should double it biko

Onegai:
But you have never seen me scatter a house.
I'm realllllyyyyy good at it. It's my one talent
Dexterush, you're like my mum, never a straight answer: "where is my toy, mummy?" "in my head!"; "what are we eating mummy?", "Food!"; "Where are we going mummy?", "Out!"

Lols I like your mum already, even my sister is scared of asking me questions sometimes when its comes to response my friends call me Epic

Bolade005:
Your man is my nigga. Sorry ma, just take it easy on yourself. It is well.

Nigga abi alright

ambient:
Please how do you wonderful women get ur husband to participate. In housework. I have talk, shout, threatened, cajoled. And still have not been able to make him hang his clothes not to talk about housework coupled with my baby that hardly sleep.
I think that am suffering from postpartum depression but have been trying to help myself a little.

Ps he always say no to the idea of household.

Hmm its like we married the same hubby,and he Neva keeps his stuff well,always Annie where is my this, Annie where is my that.... And I always tell him to look for it inside me kidney. The matter tire me,so I do what I can and leave the rest,I can't kill myself biko

Lutherap:
"Sabi" mamas will come and concur or make corrections! Plus add to the above."

Uncle you are on point,and a very good learner. Kudos

Maymay1 pls do as adviced

Jennykoko3009:
Thanks mama dexterush and coldfeet. Bt he stoped taking his formular and water, he's stricting feedin on breast. Shud i go back giving him water as bfor?

Have you tried spoonfeeding him

FACTS TO KNOW ABOUT "OKA"

1. The "soft hole or space" often erroneously believed to be an abnormality is A NORMAL PART of the baby's head. It is called ANTERIOR FONTANELLE (AF).

Every baby has it. It is there to allow along with the small spaces (sutures) between the different bones of the skull to accommodate the baby's brain growth. So it is not "OKA" or any other thing....It is a normal part of the baby's head.

2. The anterior fontanelle (AF) is covered by a membrane, and this membrane is what actually separates the baby's brain from the environment. It is that important! So any application of substances that can damage this membrane will lead to exposure of the brain to the environment with serious consequences like in the story above.


3. The fact that in some babies, very hairy or chubby especially, that you can not see it pulsating or "breathing" in local naija parlance does not mean it is not there. Some mums have actually said their babies do not anterior fontanelle! That is not true....every baby is born with one!

4. The size and shape of the AF varies from one baby to another normally. In some conditions, it can be too big. Also the anterior fontannelle can be elevated "bulging" in some conditions especially if the baby has infections in the brain. It can be depressed "sunken" in other conditions like in babies that are very dehydrated or malnourished.

Please note that in these conditions, it is not the AF causing the disease symptoms (for example diarrhoea and dehydration with sunken AF). Rather, the AF is just reflecting the fact that something is wrong in the body systems.

It is important to say this because this is one of the reasons some mums believe in "OKA". Such babies are sick and may either have prominent or sunken AF in addition to other symptoms. The "OKA doctors" will now say it is the "oka" causing the symptoms.

The danger of this belief is all treatments will be directed to the AF and the underlying disease causing the change in AF will be ignored. Also some of the native medications often use d have dangerous side effects and consequences especially on the immature liver and kidneys of the babies causing further damage...."fry pan to fire" scenario!!!

5. The AF closes on its own by age of 18 - 24 months. This is because more than 90% of brain growth and development has occurred by the age of 2 years. You did not need to do anything about it. It happens on its own. Just to note that some diseases can cause delay in closure of the AF. See your paediatrician if you can still feel the AF in your baby after age 2 years.

6. You did not need to apply oil to the AF hourly or daily....highly unnecessary and the dripping oil will cause rashes on the baby's face. The AF is not "drying up" like many naija mums believe. You also do not need to put thread from cloth. You also do not need to mop AF with hot water or apply any substances local or herbal on it. JUST LEAVE THE AF ALONE!!!

7. Finally if your baby is sick with or without observed changes in the AF, please go to the Hospital immediately. Don't assume and don't accept the "OKA" diagnosis. Please see your doctor for proper diagnosis and treatment. A stitch in time saves nine!

Thank you for reading.

FACTS TO KNOW ABOUT "OKA"

1. The "soft hole or space" often erroneously believed to be an abnormality is A NORMAL PART of the baby's head. It is called ANTERIOR FONTANELLE (AF).

Every baby has it. It is there to allow along with the small spaces (sutures) between the different bones of the skull to accommodate the baby's brain growth. So it is not "OKA" or any other thing....It is a normal part of the baby's head.

2. The anterior fontanelle (AF) is covered by a membrane, and this membrane is what actually separates the baby's brain from the environment. It is that important! So any application of substances that can damage this membrane will lead to exposure of the brain to the environment with serious consequences like in the story above.


3. The fact that in some babies, very hairy or chubby especially, that you can not see it pulsating or "breathing" in local naija parlance does not mean it is not there. Some mums have actually said their babies do not anterior fontanelle! That is not true....every baby is born with one!

4. The size and shape of the AF varies from one baby to another normally. In some conditions, it can be too big. Also the anterior fontannelle can be elevated "bulging" in some conditions especially if the baby has infections in the brain. It can be depressed "sunken" in other conditions like in babies that are very dehydrated or malnourished.

Please note that in these conditions, it is not the AF causing the disease symptoms (for example diarrhoea and dehydration with sunken AF). Rather, the AF is just reflecting the fact that something is wrong in the body systems.

It is important to say this because this is one of the reasons some mums believe in "OKA". Such babies are sick and may either have prominent or sunken AF in addition to other symptoms. The "OKA doctors" will now say it is the "oka" causing the symptoms.

The danger of this belief is all treatments will be directed to the AF and the underlying disease causing the change in AF will be ignored. Also some of the native medications often use d have dangerous side effects and consequences especially on the immature liver and kidneys of the babies causing further damage...."fry pan to fire" scenario!!!

5. The AF closes on its own by age of 18 - 24 months. This is because more than 90% of brain growth and development has occurred by the age of 2 years. You did not need to do anything about it. It happens on its own. Just to note that some diseases can cause delay in closure of the AF. See your paediatrician if you can still feel the AF in your baby after age 2 years.

6. You did not need to apply oil to the AF hourly or daily....highly unnecessary and the dripping oil will cause rashes on the baby's face. The AF is not "drying up" like many naija mums believe. You also do not need to put thread from cloth. You also do not need to mop AF with hot water or apply any substances local or herbal on it. JUST LEAVE THE AF ALONE!!!

7. Finally if your baby is sick with or without observed changes in the AF, please go to the Hospital immediately. Don't assume and don't accept the "OKA" diagnosis. Please see your doctor for proper diagnosis and treatment. A stitch in time saves nine!

Thank you for reading.
Cc jennykoko3009

Jennykoko3009:
Please mama @ dexterush, i have been observing dat scalp at my babys fontenelle, some pple said i shud go to a herbalist for (ntiwa isi". Bt i jus ignored dem and saying it notin, please wat shud about it, and atimes his soft skull will seems to sink bt later rise up. Pls ooo i nid ur advise
Cc dexterush

Pls oh,don't go to any herbalist,just make sure your baby is not dehydrated

Thought to share

Culled from ask the pediatrician


My baby has "OKA"!
If you are not from Nigeria, you may be lost from the title alone. The typical Naija Mum knows what I am talking about, especially if you are from the South-Western part of the country, specifically the Yoruba tribe. The other tribes have their own names for the same condition. A mum told me it is called "ndawa isi" in Ibo. Someone should tell me the Hausa name.

What is "oka"?
A lot of Nigerian Mums ask me countless number of times if their babies have "Oka". In fact, most do not ask "if" as they have been handed the standard diagnosis of "Oka" by the Grannies stat. Their own question is whether they should give "agbo oka" that is native concotion or herbal remedies for the "Oka". Another category of mums have gone beyond that and have started the treatment for "Oka". How do I know? Once you see a new baby with clean shaven head and sticky blackish substance applied to the scalp toward the front, you are seeing a child undergoing treatment for "Oka".

So what is this "Oka"?
The Grannies and some mums believe that there is a "hole" or "space" which is "breathing" or pulsating in the head of the new baby which is abnormal. That this soft space is not right and should not be there. Any baby that has this "abnormal space or hole" is diagnosed with "Oka".


For fat, hairy babies, the "hole" is not so apparent and often ignored. However, in smaller babies who are also not gaining weight or perhaps loosing weight, the space is very prominent and can even be sunken. Such babies are easily labelled as having "Oka" and commenced on all forms of treatment ranging from application of substances on the scalp to drinking herbal remedies. There are lots of myths and beliefs surrounding this "Oka".

So why am I talking about "Oka"?
Some years ago, during my residency training to become a Paediatrician, I was working at the Children Emergency Room (CHER) at the Lagos University Teaching Hospital when two women rushed in with a baby crying. That is not unusual in CHER. What was terrifying that day was when I saw the baby rushed in. He was about 2 - 3 months old. For the first time in my life, I was seeing the brain live and direct in a living person who was not being operated. This was not a movie scene! The brain of this baby was completely visible to everyone. What happened?

In the usual fashion, the grandma who came for "omugwo" had made a diagnosis of "Oka" and has prescribed the traditional treatment which was coating the surface with a black material. Unfortunately, in this scenario, whatever substance was applied was so caustic, it eroded (burnt) away the membrane of the anterior fontanelle and you can see the baby's brain live and direct!!! Of course, this was disastrous....for baby, mother and grandma and even us the doctors.

That is why I talk and educate mums about this traditional myths and beliefs that are dangerous to children's health. Of course, granny did not mean to harm her precious grandson but she did anyway. That baby had to undergo brain surgery. Of course, he had serious infection of the brain even before and after surgery. Though he did not die, but there are long-term complications he will face all because of someone's ignorance. No wonder, ignorance is more expensive than education.

Thought to share
Culled from ask the pediatrician


My baby has "OKA"!
If you are not from Nigeria, you may be lost from the title alone. The typical Naija Mum knows what I am talking about, especially if you are from the South-Western part of the country, specifically the Yoruba tribe. The other tribes have their own names for the same condition. A mum told me it is called "ndawa isi" in Ibo. Someone should tell me the Hausa name.

What is "oka"?
A lot of Nigerian Mums ask me countless number of times if their babies have "Oka". In fact, most do not ask "if" as they have been handed the standard diagnosis of "Oka" by the Grannies stat. Their own question is whether they should give "agbo oka" that is native concotion or herbal remedies for the "Oka". Another category of mums have gone beyond that and have started the treatment for "Oka". How do I know? Once you see a new baby with clean shaven head and sticky blackish substance applied to the scalp toward the front, you are seeing a child undergoing treatment for "Oka".

So what is this "Oka"?
The Grannies and some mums believe that there is a "hole" or "space" which is "breathing" or pulsating in the head of the new baby which is abnormal. That this soft space is not right and should not be there. Any baby that has this "abnormal space or hole" is diagnosed with "Oka".


For fat, hairy babies, the "hole" is not so apparent and often ignored. However, in smaller babies who are also not gaining weight or perhaps loosing weight, the space is very prominent and can even be sunken. Such babies are easily labelled as having "Oka" and commenced on all forms of treatment ranging from application of substances on the scalp to drinking herbal remedies. There are lots of myths and beliefs surrounding this "Oka".

So why am I talking about "Oka"?
Some years ago, during my residency training to become a Paediatrician, I was working at the Children Emergency Room (CHER) at the Lagos University Teaching Hospital when two women rushed in with a baby crying. That is not unusual in CHER. What was terrifying that day was when I saw the baby rushed in. He was about 2 - 3 months old. For the first time in my life, I was seeing the brain live and direct in a living person who was not being operated. This was not a movie scene! The brain of this baby was completely visible to everyone. What happened?

In the usual fashion, the grandma who came for "omugwo" had made a diagnosis of "Oka" and has prescribed the traditional treatment which was coating the surface with a black material. Unfortunately, in this scenario, whatever substance was applied was so caustic, it eroded (burnt) away the membrane of the anterior fontanelle and you can see the baby's brain live and direct!!! Of course, this was disastrous....for baby, mother and grandma and even us the doctors.

That is why I talk and educate mums about this traditional myths and beliefs that are dangerous to children's health. Of course, granny did not mean to harm her precious grandson but she did anyway. That baby had to undergo brain surgery. Of course, he had serious infection of the brain even before and after surgery. Though he did not die, but there are long-term complications he will face all because of someone's ignorance. No wonder, ignorance is more expensive than education.

Mehn today's thread babies is so hau.te,I hope it continues
You mamas deserve serious award,I will gmset IP a committee to look into that

Onegai:
Wow. How did they find out?

Twas the people in the bus with her that noticed she was acting suspicious, then they asked the driver to park the bus and started interrogating her.

Bisoye82:
Reporting for #threadcuties
My babies @6mths +
Lord am thankful

Lovely babies ,had to quote you cos of your boy's facial expression,in one word"Epic"

Mamas things are happening oh,a woman was caught with a week old baby that is not hers close to cele this afternoon,while they were still forcing her to confess police came and carried her away. Please let is all be vigilant. God will continue to protect our LOs

Mummide:
Pls is it advisable to use spirit after circumcision? It's a doctor's advice but I'm not comfortable with it. How else can I care for it

Ehn spirit ke,that doctor must be a wicked somborri,please its Vaseline you apply,preferable blueseal

All these cuties that you people are sharing,I will swallow them oh,you people should hold me now oh

Weldone mamas you pole are doing a nice job

ehen bia mitchyy,biko is there fertilizer in your bwest milk ni,see Hansel is just going bigger everyday

AlphaHandMaiden:
We should just aim to raise good God fearing children. Both boys and girls, who have an unshakable selfworth, have respect for the opposite sex and a working moral compass.

True talk

Onegai:
Baby E is not getting a camera phone till 18, not with my hand will I buy it. She wants to buy anything I don't like, biko get a summer job and pay for it with your hand. Too many girls are sending nudes to all sorts of boys, it's like one small boy shines teeth, the next thing is to send him nudes. No child is having locks on their door either: you want to lock your door for privacy, oya pay rent!

One of my sisters, her kids only got camera phones with wifi at 13, no laptops. You want to browse, go and use the family computer downstairs. You password that phone, she seizes it. She says she wants no surprises o. Yes, children will be naughty and none of us are saints, but when I hear some tales from Romance section, I just get weak. The day I read one tale about some guys in Polytechnics convince their campus Gfs to sleep with their lecturers to give the GUYS better grades, Ahswear I weak...

In all of these I think upbringing and making sure the child has sense is the way to go. I have a family fried that sends her kids(10 and 12yrs) to filmhouse cinema to do holiday jobs. They will learn to be responsible and have value for money,not some grand mother that will still be looking to receive or she commit.
I also don't believe in being too strict cos they will start hiding stuffs from you, but still don't be too free.Some girls in Uni are just testing freedom and so want to utilize it to the fullest,and unfortunately wolves are everywhere and can smell these girls from afar. Back in school then(unilag) ,my friends(guys) are always happy at the start of a new session cos of fresh fishes entering the system,and how gullible girls can be.
For those girls that slept with their lecturer cos of ordinary bf ,they need physical and spiritual cleansing cos I don't think they are alright.

AlphaHandMaiden:
Una try for that moji case!

Abeg bring in the better people that need genuine help and assistance and are willing to take advise of well meaning people.

Lolz bring it on,I like you jare,she was even saying her mom is wicked,first baby daddy wicked,second baby daddy wicked still whereas she is the most wicked of them all,bringing poor innocent children into the world to suffer ,not doing anything to alleviate the suffering, and want to still kill herself . maybe she should even go ahead so she won't bring more children into into this world cos such pple don't learn.

Onegai:
Don't hail me too much o, Soonest and Comtem2011 and co, if the people who were tough on me were closer to me physically, it would have been better.

When I found out I was having a girl, I cried. Because I didn't know if I could protect her. I wanted a boy first so he and I could protect her. One of my BiLs used to actively pray against having girls (he's a doctor and he would just see red about what he saw women pass through or do to themselves).

Hmm thought I was the only one oh,esp now that morality has been thrown to the dogs,someone will just be having high bp thinking of what they are doing.
They only thing is just to pray they abide by the values inculcated into them.

Onegai:

Just finished reading that moji's case,in addition to that entitlement problem she also has pride

Onegai:
Better, correct human being!

Oya, exercising exercisers! where art thou?

Rofemiguwa, put that slice of bread down now, fabmum, dexterush, whom else...

Hmmmm dexterush ke,me that is looking for flesh

Lols onegai you are a real detective,see busting of ass(the moji girl ish),some pple just want the esay way out. I pray God gives us the strength ,wisdom and grace to bring up children that will be useful to themselves and the society at large.
Lemme continue reading the super story

AlphaHandMaiden:
Prof ke! Who?, from where? Abeg oh me still be student! In fact na even back of class me i dey!

Reactions may come in different forms. Instead We will be looking for evil in-laws or jealous siblings to blame that they are doing us winchy thinz.

Kia don't be modest,is your name modester
Lols at the winchy thinz,tru talk though

Onegai:
My dear, I've been preoccupied in Family section since yesterday morning in one very stvpid matter. The story is just too insane and it has made me swear to buy bulala and flog Baby E starting from today. Because God forbid she ends up being a total slowpoke in this life. How are your babies?
To all my mothers here who are hustling, struggling, working their fingers off, counting every kobo and doing all they can to care and sustain themselves, may God bless you and enrich everything in your lives. Because you are wonderful in every way, from the smallest curl in your hair to the biggest toenail on your feet.

Please oh free our Agbani biko,and Amen to the prayer

Why this place dry today,today that I av plenty time where is our captain, Onegai are you still waving and smiling back

tipsyjules:
Please mamas am very sorry for posting my BS here. Na mistake o I wanted to come and register my presence o. Abeg muna forgive me o.Good morning all.

Sorry you had to go thru all of that,our medical pratictioners need serious koboko and orientation safe for few. That was why I blatantly refuse to go to GH cos of their attitude everybody was just pursuing me to go and register there ,the day I finally decided to go for peace to reign was the day I gave birth.
Pls no hot water sit bath oh,anything they ask you to do confirm very well fist b4 doing it. Quick recovery to you and kisses to your lil prince.
Friday is thread babies abeg make we see him face

AlphaHandMaiden:
Cc dexterush


Most condoms are made of latex. It is quite possible you ladies may have a latex allergy.
Do you also itch when you use latex gloves, either in the kitchen or surgical type gloves. Though i think your vjay may be a bit more sensitive than other outer parts of your skin and hands so the itching and reaction may not be as intense in other parts.

There are a few latex free options for people with allergies like that but i dont imagime the nigerian market caters for such.

Thanks o jare our prof of life. I don't itch mine is a burning sensation and dryness.

Prettyhurts:
I thought I was alone. Anytime I use condom I'll just be scratching my hoohaa like mad person & I no dey feel am joor.. withdrawal all the way or uda water. Since I gave birth I never see AF, upon say I no do EBF.
.

Lucky you,after seeing lochia for two month,I was happy that I was finally free cos I hate pant only for AF to show at the third month,chia I vex ehn
Welicum evacroft, feel free to mingle

DANZAK:
Good morning sabi mums, Can you suggest anything that can make this happen?.
Note: He is on BM and formula.
.

If you are sure you feed with with the right measurement and frequency then chilax,since he has added 0.7,he is definitely going to add more.
For the mucus thing,do you use rug in your house,is the atmosphere dust free, do you expose him to fan,etc just check all these this am sure he will be fine soon. And fret less mama

Adeime:
Tnx iya ibeji....how are ur cuties

Uwc dear,they are doing very fine,kisses to your lo.

ginababy:
I did same during ttc omo it wasn't funny at all.
Team condom all the way
I can't no fit shout
Tnx dearie.

I wonder how you guys cope oh,I can't do with condom,it irritates my walls like mad,and e no dey sweet sef

Adeime:
Hello fam please I need your quick response my baby of 11 weeks hasn't been posing regularly he didn't poo for 3 days initially then on d 3rd day he did afterwards he didn't poop for 2 days until we heard him grunting this evening so decided to massage his tummy n do bicycle kick after which he pooped but the first thing that came out is so thick like strong pap
However he's been farting some terrible smelling farting and I just started formula yesterday. Please advise o

Since he is on formula now,you have to give him more water,if he won't suck from the bottle ,spoonfeed him,just make sure he takes water at least 160-180ml per day

Nawa oh,this end time page does not want to go

Onegai:
And with that sentence, you just win the internet! What is "Repented Ogbono Soup"? Have we all been eating unforgiven and unrepentant Ogbono soup?! Is this why sometimes my Ogbono Soup refuses to draw Because it is a sinner?! That makes so much sense....

Onegai:
And with that sentence, you just win the internet! What is "Repented Ogbono Soup"? Have we all been eating unforgiven and unrepentant Ogbono soup?! Is this why sometimes my Ogbono Soup refuses to draw Because it is a sinner?! That makes so much sense....

Yes oh,if you eat a rightous ogbono nobody will tell you before you fall under the anointing

Onegai:
and you have to look and smile at her whilst doing it or she will come and bite your nose.

Lols,she is an aggressive learner,and will make a good teacher too

BritneyStacy:
There is something I haven't read on this thread since I joined O ooo....
Mamas that got black pigmentation during pregnancy especially around the neck , stomach and back. What did you rub or do after delivery to lighten those places up and return to your prepregnancy complexion. ...
7weeks postpartum, my stomach and bumbum is still very black....
Person no fit get fine skin again not to even mention stretch marks and wrinkles on the stomach....

BritneyStacy:
There is something I haven't read on this thread since I joined O ooo....
Mamas that got black pigmentation during pregnancy especially around the neck , stomach and back. What did you rub or do after delivery to lighten those places up and return to your prepregnancy complexion. ...
7weeks postpartum, my stomach and bumbum is still very black....
Person no fit get fine skin again not to even mention stretch marks and wrinkles on the stomach....

It will clear eventually sha,my mum was not patient with mine that she had to go buy lightening soap for me to use for a while.

Mehn,this is wat they call twin duplex,chio,queen of bump