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iterator24:
you can call it with a metaphor if you like, answer that question so you shall be free

Not interested and I am already free, seeing as you've lost. I can log off whenever I wish while you will be left with a monologue.

DieVluit:
You can't seal anyone's faith with a monologue. I will happily keep my satisfaction and leave discussions I have no interest is. That's how "foruming" works.

If you need other people in order to build an argument, then you have no brains.

iterator24:
Its the question that'd seal your faith.. stop shying away from it

You can't seal anyone's faith with a monologue. I will happily keep my satisfaction and leave discussions I have no interest is. That's how "foruming" works.

If you need other people in order to build an argument, then you have no brains.

iterator24:
it's simply a yes or no question that made you fail

There is no interest whatsoever, as stated multiple times. The primary argument is done and dusted.

agaugust:
Your claim is false. Displaced persons are returning home. Only few dozens of civilians die .[s] Boko Haram now dies in thousands from Nigerian Military firepower...or no Tv news in your village? Oh yes, no Tv, load shedding has plunged your Rainbow nation into pitch black darkness, your rainbow even shows no colours anymore, now it's all black and dark in South Africa thanks to Eskom....your laptop runs on battery, your browsing is mostly run with cell phone, your bedrooms run on candles....melting hot candle wax flows all over South Africa as as your country's electricity infrastructure declines uncontrollably.[/s]

Die under Nigerian guard.

Displaced under Nigerian guard.

Less have died or been displaced while under Chadian protection.

agaugust:
Your claim is false. Displaced persons are returning home. Only few dozens of civilians die . Boko Haram now dies in thousands from Nigerian Military firepower...

They were displaced while under Nigerian guard is the point.

The dead, also died under Nigerian guard.

iterator24:
FIXED

That editing has no effect cause everyone can see it's your words. Fraudulent like how Innoson STEALS intellectual property.

And the G7 is a soliloquy. Enjoy your monologue.

iterator24:
your compatriot claims every tech companies pays royalties hence, innoson bus design.... hich means Denel pays royalties for her G7... He also called innoson a thief for using a chinese model design..while denel is a saint for copying a canadian design.. get the picture?

We agreed with your confirmation that Innoson copied and STOLE without any licenses.

You criticise the Badger, while Innoson is a saint for copying without a license.

Get the picture?

iterator24:
no citation to lost argument exists.. you've failed to provide proof of licences , you've failed to show us ur car brand .. you lost saffer..go and sleep! rather, go and die

We have both accepted Innoson is an intellectual property thief, so it has no licenses. Therefore none are to be produced.

You made no headway on the Badger argument.

Inyathi was posted multiple times, sealing your loss.

agaugust:
Show me where thousands of Nigerians continue to he killed or DISPLACED
.

Why, is that a denial or an innocent question?

iterator24:
you were so much interested in inyathi earlier on that you could buy the bus..what changed?

Exactly!

"was interested". Magic words.

Oh, what changed was that you lost and that finished the argument. Thanks.

iterator24:
you've been quoting ford, apple, Samsung, beans and plantain.. now G7 is a monologue?

you and your fellow saffers are failures!

Seeing as you're the only one interested in the G7 at this time, yes. Big monologue it is.

My business of the day was the Badger and Innoson and that's done, with thanks. I'll keep my satisfaction while you can enjoy the monologue.

iterator24:
you don't have an answer..its now a monologue? you're a failure...

What i don't have is interest on the G7. Seeing as you have given up on the Badger and Innoson, I am happy.

So, you can have your monologue on the G7 and I will have my satisfaction on the Badger and Innoson.

iterator24:
again, we both agree Denel's G7 Howitzer is produced under license? he pay royalties right?

Only you mentioned the G7, so it's a monologue on your part.

Given that you have nothing further to add on the Bagder, or Innoson, I am happy.

You can happily enjoy your monologue on the G7.

iterator24:
say yes..anwser my question

Is that a yes from you?

iterator24:
in other words, and in the same vein.. Denel's G7 Howitzer is produced under license ?

First, are you DROPPING the badger argument because it's not like you are coming up with anything new or improved on that?

Simple question.

Are you also accepting that Innoson STEALS intellectual property?

Simple question.

iterator24:
relax, my argument is, Finland gets her cut from every unit of badger produced. fact!

Oh the argument that has been shown to be irrelevant because almost every technology company pays royalties to someone?

iterator24:
you G5 howitzer is a knock-off of the canadian GC-45_howitzer..

show us your car brand, stop wasting our time

You argument is that the Badger is LICENSED.

Have you DROPPED that particular argument or not?

I have posted the Inyathi multiple times.

How does that change the issue on the Badger.

Why is the Badger not South African if the Innoson bus posted is Nigerian?

Answer, please.

iterator24:
denel is an intellectual property thief...

Your argument is that Denel has a license. You are not stealing if you have a licence.

iterator24:
lol..its not unique to Nigeria, you model after other products to create a unique piece, thats the definition of creativity. Has car design changed it's shape since it's invention?
i could say Denel modeled G series howitzer from GC - 45 howitzer He is an intellectual property thief!

anyways, we have an indigenious design now.. stop hating

Stealing intellectual property is not unique to Nigeria. That is why we have licences.

And has the Patria changed shape since invention? See how ridiculous you sound?

But you admit that Innoson is an intellectual property thief because the bus below is a knock-off of the Chinese OEM.

iterator24:
yes, he copied a 'bus' design for a car..

He is an intellectual property thief, your Innoson? No license. Nothing. Just free reign on another's design...?

Is this what you are saying?

iterator24:
this is innoson first debut, not prototypes that didn't end up on the road
tell us, which chinese designs are these..
www.nairaland.com/attachments/1804795_ivm202_jpeg23339c368a6267d221fa7880d355ee63
https://www.ventures-africa.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/IVM-Fox.jpg

www.ventures-africa.com/2014/12/innoson-unveils-first-made-in-nigeria-cars/

South Africa can only dream of an indigenous car brand.. fact!

Slow down.

In short, my man. Innoson STOLE the design below..?

Is this what you are telling us? That WITHOUT a license or permission, Innoson freely COPIED another's design and you wanna call that Nigerian?

So, Innoson steals intellectual property? Is this how Nigerians operate?

iterator24:
yes, its Nigerian,

Clearly it's Nigerian? Based on which evidence, when it is ripped off a Chinese design? So, Innoson freely COPIED a Chinese product?

He stole another's design and you call that Nigerian?

So, Nigerian manufacturers STEAL designs?

Again, apple products are not Samsung products, regardless of the screens nor is the Mac OS Microsoft's regardless of the MS for Mac.

iterator24:
again, there's no licence or traces of licence anywhere in the books and similar designs are allowed without licence.
e.g F35 and Shenyang J-31

i've given you nigerian cars, give us south african cars

Again why is Innoson's bus below Nigerian if Badger is not South African?

Answer, please.

Also, why is the Inyathi in the Picture NOT South African if Innoson is Nigerian?

Answer please.

iterator24:
you're blind the two cars have distinctive features visible enough... besides why I'm i arguing over a car that has not been commercialised..
does inyathi also has licences for these too?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1565545_G25_jpg4b3cd3ab696220257b9ff47e4fa11dec
https://www.ventures-africa.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/IVM-UMU.jpg

The two mini-buses posted are the same.

No, you are blind

China's bus below - Dongfeng Special Vehicle Bus Co., Ltd. China

Innoson .

Why is Innoson "nigerian", if Badger is not South African?

Answer the question.

iterator24:
look at the structure of the car from the driver side and the one you posted plus the lower bumper vents of the two cars you posted.. they are replica huh? dummy... toyota and Mitsubishi has something similar...

stop whining.. post licences

Why are the differences in structure between the two cars different from what South Africa has done on the Badger? It is clear the Inyathi and Innoson are on the same frame and basic design? The parts are the same, of the same material, of the same design. It is obvious.

And you said South Africa does not have its "own" car. How is the Inyathi different from Innoson? And Badger from Patria?

If Innoson is Nigerian, why is Badger not South African?

Further down - Dongfeng Special Vehicle Bus Co., Ltd. China

And Innoson.

agaugust:
The 600 innocent Cameroonian civilians wounded/killed while under Chadian army protection, and the 30 innocent civilian mourners at a funeral in Niger Republique DO NOT SEE ANY Chadian army victory because there is none in reality
.

Thousands of civilians continue to be killed and millions displaced while under Nigerian protection.

Hell, you continue to be mentally and emotionally traumatised by Boko Haram while under Nigerian protection. No peace of mind.

iterator24:
we're talking about badger here...

We are talking about technology and licensing, which world the Badger is part of.

You suddenly don't want to talk about race and other "irrelevant" things, do you?

iterator24:
and where in the world did you see or hear they have similar design? your dreams?

It's a fact.

iterator24:
now you're talking... then finland will get their cuts from the number of units manufactured within that period

That's like saying Samsung gets their cut from Apple iPad sales.

Or Volvo gets their cut from Ford Focus ST Sales.

Or that Saab gets their cut from the sale of ships out of South Korean shipyards.

Which of course, would be rubbish.

Royalties are a mere input towards cost of production.

iterator24:
i see you keep laying emphasis on design and not license anymore.. whats up man?

No two cars can share exactly the same design under different trademarks, without patent infringement, unless there's a license.

Common sense.

iterator24:
I'm pretty sure you noted your license time expiry too

All licenses have expiry and renewal dates, as per your own post up the page. That's how licenses work the world over.

iterator24:
you've failed to post a source... i'd advice you stop commenting as you're wasting our time.. guests are leaving man

2x pictures and a link are source enough, especially as you can see there that the design is something Innoson also has and that the name says Inyathi.

Effectively, everything you are shouting about regarding the Badger would apply and more to Innoson, that you are ignorantly proud of.