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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 9:33pm On Mar 20
The Ozoro boys have undone all the gains men made in February just yesterday.

Since then all the misandrists masquerading as femiñists have been back online campaigning, including accounts which were exposed for fãlse ràpe accusation.

Now how does an innocent boy from that part of Delta defend himself if he gets called out by a ràndom girl for ràping her? How do you defend yourself when the false accuser two years from now says it happened on a certain date in March 2026 by her coursemate?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 6:13pm On Mar 20
joseph1832:
Like I sad before, I have watched that cypher more times than I can count. Heck, I even watched it again, and Mode 9 killed it. He is way better than all of them combine.

Respect to the greatest Nigerian rapper/lyricist of all time: Mode 9 🙌
Before I came on here, I happened on this beat: https://www.facebook.com/share/r/17Lidch44B/
Which Nigerian rapper do you think can spit on this beat to make it go platinum then drop a music video which is just as classic?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 5:39pm On Mar 20
Ellexy:
You're on nairaland beating chest on the same thing the cowards in Iran have been busy denying responsibility of carrying out. You're a comedian.

cheesy grin grin
Nihilist did say after the initial bombings, communication lines will be broken so each formation leader will be running his own thing.

IRGC running its own.

Cardboardtollah running his own from Russia on his hospital bed.

Sheiks running theirs.

NRGC running its wing.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 5:34pm On Mar 20
Emaprince:
Another one joins their leader
Head of PR = Head of Propaganda.

Sean or the Epistletollah will get a promotion.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 1:49pm On Mar 20
pkasso:
Nooo! You don't rate Ejay? You fall my hand small, bro. I get the Ajebutter22 comparison but BM makes better music. Blackmagic was the first big Alté artiste on Nigerian radio. His lyricism is good enough for someone who isn't a flat-out rapper. He has that laid-back style as Naeto C but I don't think he makes himself out to be cool. He is just chill.
Asa. It was Asa.

I can name alté artistes at the time in the 2000s who were more household names than Black Magic:

- Rooftop MCs.
- GT da Guitarman (of Storm Records).

- Bez Idakula came next. "Zuci daya" was a radio hit for lovelórn night listeners. His "Super Sun" album cemented that in 2011.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 11:37am On Mar 20
There's still no Nigeria song which will have you standing in front of a mirror using your right hand finger tips to dust off imaginary dust from your left shoulder blade while yelling "hey!", "hey!" like Naeto C's catalogue.

"Ako Mi Ti Poju", for example.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwPXV8V5pcs?si=vRIfTBBEk3EBw9SI

Like :

Ako Ako Ako Ako mi ti poju (hey!)
Ako mi ti poju (hey!)
Ako mi ti poju (yes, boss!)
Ako mi ti poju (serious music!).

Naeto was phenomenal.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 11:28am On Mar 20
semid4lyfe:
Make I cause small chaos.

If rap finesse is being defined as ease/effortlessness, suavity, swag, smoothness of flow, then the Nigerian rapoer with the most finesse is not even a rapper but an R & B artiste. Yeah. you heard me right.

That Person is Bankole Wellington aka Bank W.

It was his feature in DJ Jimmy Jatt's E to beh that also had Phyno.

Take a listen. especially, his second verse from the 3.00 minute mark.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcwOar3nuWI&pp=ygUfRGogTmVwdHVuZSBmdCBQaHlubyBhbmQgQmFua3kgV9IHCQnFCgGHKiGM7w%3D%3D

Banky's verses were very braggadocios But no Nigerian rapper has ever been able to surpass the finesse - smooth flow, suavity, poshness that Banky exhibited in that song.
But you're not wrong. Banky W was Drake's prototype – he sings and raps, and was doing so even in 2006.

Go check his catalogue on YouTube and when he first came on HipTV in 2007. Amongst other songs, his claim to fame was "Ebute Metta" where he did his own singing and rapping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qtdbfVf7xs?si=cmT8HnZCTCGnUnSn

Then on his 2010 "Lagos Party" which is the best city tribute song (greater than "New York" in my books and the most star-studded Nigerian music video till date), he did his singing and rapping himself in style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiSX5pagz8s?si=VVmVuiox2tBFnDgZ

Banky was a rapper too who later focused on R&B and Soul fully.
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But Naeto C was the blueprint. As at 2007/2008 when all our favourite rappers were rapping about "taking your girl and running your hood" with trousers with enough material for Ayra Starr's entire wardrobe, Naeto C came on the scene decked in a 3-piece suit and a Cuban cigar leaning on the wall asking "Ki ni Big Deal?" .

Nigeria had never seen anything like that. Revolutionary.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 9:55am On Mar 20
I remember during the Lockdown in 2020 when artistes were doing versus. I think D Banj went against PSquare, but the most trending was M.I and Naeto C versus.

M.I. admitted something which is still true 6 years after he said it:

"The Nigerian music industry still doesn't have a response for Naeto C's "Kini Big Deal".

True. The real cool kid before the Knighthouse cool kids era from 2008, and they still couldn't out-cool-kid him.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 9:43am On Mar 20
KingTom:
I like as he kuku go join US Navy forget naija wahala grin Sip Easy sef which was the most popular video of him Essien killed it
You guys are mixing it up. I never stated Naeto was the best lyricist or even in the conversation for top lyricist or rapper. Many Nairaland textcees back then would best Naeto. Blaqbonez isn't top 20 for lyricism but he will better Naeto for lyricism.

But when it comes to finesse/being suave, Naeto was in a class of own.

Just the same way Banky isn't Nigeria's top 3 male vocalist ever but no Nigerian artiste does R&B with so much finesse like W.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 9:28am On Mar 20
joseph1832:
Believe me you, I don't know who Bred is. I don't even listen to Davido. The only song, I've ever liked from Davido is Kante, and it's because Fave killed that song, not Davido. I mean, Fave literally committed double murder in that song. Not that I'm toning down Davido's accomplishment, nope, I'm not. I'm just saying I don't like his music and don't appreciate his kind of music, especially with the fact that it's coming from his mouth.
I don't listen to Davido too. Or Wizkid. I can tolerate Burna Boy but he's not on my playlist. I've always been clear about artistes and genres I listen to (alternative music being chief amongst them).


I've watched that BET cypher more times than I can imagine. Mode 9 dropped a hydrogen bomb in that cypher. He bested them all. While Naeto C was just being Naeto C, swag, nothing more.
Naeto was just being his suave self.


Kay, ma main man. What makes a rapper/lyricist, are his lyrics, not his finesse or how much he has in his pockets. It's the same with KRS 1. Dude never won a Grammy, yet he's number 1,2 ,3,4 and 5. Can't even compare him with Eminem.

Take this from me, I love Eminem with every fibre of sense in me, but when it comes between Eminem and KRS 1, bro KRS 1 got me.

A rapper is a rapper because of his lyrics, not his looks. Naeto is using fine boy, finesse or swag, with plenty money to do music. Atleast you can agree his lyrics are wack.
Carriage/finesse/style are almost the same thing and Naeto's is better.

Did you watch the BET cyber I mentioned where all of them were on?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmIt2HK9pfQ?si=TLtRBDL4y8hynwLz

Notice all of them jumping all over the place and when Naeto came on, he just slowed down and did his easygoing, soft life thingy? That's the carriage Jay Z had in the later stages of his career. All those collaborations with Beyonce before he married her and Pharrell.
Hov was oozing finesse Lil Wayne, 50, Ricky, and Jada and many others can never replicate. But Wayne will hit Jay for lyricism.

Even 3 Stacks who I consider a more introspective lyricist than Hov can't match Hov for sauvity/finesse.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 12:35am On Mar 20
raumdeuter:
The DNC will come down heavily on him
The last time the Democrats had a competitive presidential primary was in 2008, the rest have been coronation of who the Dem establishment want
Unlike in the republican party where dissenting opinions are common, the democrats seek uniformity of opinions
At this point he should just do an RFK Jnr and move to the Right or just officially align. Dems are wishing him déath on X everyday, hoping he has a cancer remission every time he says something sensible like supporting the SAVE Act (something we should insist on in Nigeria too) or defunding woke programmes.

PA has moved Red (at least in 2024) so he can return as a Repub to Senate if he doesn't gun for the top job. Elon did serious work there in 2024 to flip it Red.

He has to move. The Dems would come hard on him.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 12:28am On Mar 20
joseph1832:
I call lyrical mastery finesse. It takes a great amount of finesse for one to master and manipulate words, like Mode 9 does.

If you're talking about style, meaning finesse, yeah, Naeto's got it, I mean, with Mama's heavy bucks supporting him here and there, why won't he have finesse.

Even after many years, that video kini big deal still has style written all over it. Aside that, bleh. So, Style = swag, swag = finesse.
You guys have started. That's how you people try to diminish Davido's accomplishment, tagging it to generational wealth like BRed who is just as silver-spooned isn't on an alternate musical trajectory.
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By the way, go watch their BET cypher 14 years ago. Naeto bested all of them with finesse and that composed ease while Mode 9 had the best lyricism but was all over the place like M.I.

As for mummy's money, Mo'hits were shooting videos just as expensive as Naeto C's in 2008 too, but if you don't have that finesse, no number of "Directed by Sesan" can give it to you.

Theflint1:
DaGrin cry

These were good times. MI made rap relatable without diluting his substance, the forced comparisons will never not be funny...sha makes for conversation.
I'm giving everyone their credit. M.I.'s 2008 "Talk About It" album was the first Nigerian rap album I bought.
Everyone knows Mode 9 is the lyricist king.


The comparison was essentially about suavity/finesse. The same characteristics which set apart a CAPital F.E.M.I. from a Wande Coal, even though Wande is the better vocalist.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 11:26pm On Mar 19
Joe, I already posted Kini Big Deal.

Show me any Nigeria rapper who has the finesse for Ako Mi To Poju?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwPXV8V5pcs?si=HB-wVYBqUfcfHBTZ
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Even on Neptune's 2010 collaboration with M.I. (when M.I. was the hottest rapper in Nigeria), Naeto C bested him in finesse. Feel Naeto C's composed delivery?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF4cYUxAUso?si=wKRi2g1PlNIwHz-F
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 11:16pm On Mar 19
joseph1832:
Now your definition of finesse relates to his videos alone? Not his style, his lyrics, his poise, his use of literary devices, his message etc?

Need to know, because I know when it comes to all what I wrote, no Nigerian rapper comes as close to Mode 9. I honestly don't think there ever will be any rapper close to him.
Even his music style.

Point me to any Nigerian rapper who has/had as much finesse as Naeto.

Finesse isn't lyricism, you know? Drake has more finesse than Lil Wayne but Wayne is the better lyricist.

Show my any rapper with more finesse than Naeto C. Don't mention M.I. or Mode 9 because you'll be wrong.

Mode 9 role-played and still role-plays a thüg with lyrical mastery. Lyrical mastery isn't finesse.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 10:56pm On Mar 19
18 years after, nobody is touching the class and finesse Naeto C's "Kini Big Deal" music video oozes. Nobody.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HJbCOvCRfI?si=R52mcuS5Yx2draQH

Reminds me of that Jay Z - Pharrell Williams combination for music videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnDh0JhmaFw?si=UEuXKMkZdam_Ff8y
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 10:53pm On Mar 19
joseph1832:
Less finesse, Naeto C got finesse? 🤔
Take it back, Joe.

Naeto C has no finesse?

No Nigerian rapper since Naeto has half as much finesse as Naeto C.

Others were and are role-playing gångsters, Naeto was and is being the Don.

Point me to one Nigerian music video with as much finesse as Naeto C's 2007 "Kini Big Deal?"
The closest is Banky W's 2010 "Lagos Party" but it had some tacky parts. Rewatch both on YouTube now.


"Kini Big Deal?" Is even too much. Let's start with his "Ako Mi To Po Ju" music video. Who comes close?
Nobody touches Naeto.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 8:04pm On Mar 19
semid4lyfe:
Throwback Thursday.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23MsneAXhAc&pp=ygUSYmxhY2sgbWFnaWMgcmVwZXRl0gcJCcUKAYcqIYzv

Black Magic - Repete

An Afrobeats masterpiece.

A timeless classic. Mad jam back in the days and even today, song is still a vibe.

The trumpet sound that runs through the song is orgasmic, and the way his silky smooth vocals was layered over the beat was heavenly.

SoundCity, Nigezie and Trace Naija no let the song rest that circa 2013, and played it like every hour.

Its sacrilegious that the song didn't make the Billboard 50 best afrobeats songs of all time list.

https://www.billboard.com/lists/best-afrobeats-songs/50-weird-mc-ijoya/

It'd easily displace some of the songs on that list imo.

BM dropped one good album and fell off.

The way artistes fall off after one or two hit songs will make you appreciate and respect peeps Olamide, Wizkid, Burna, Davido, Flavour, Phyno, Kizz Daniel and others who have been doing it consistently and remained relevant for over a decade cos many fell off and couldn't sustain their success.
Diss- Troy, you have a weird taste in music.
😅😅😅😅
Do you consider Black Magic's repete a good song?
He sounds like Ajebutter22 and a less finesse version of Naeto C.

I'm not convinced on his lyricism and artistic style.

Will I listen to him on YouTube shorts if it pops up? Yes.
Will he be on my playlist? No.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 7:58pm On Mar 19
raumdeuter:
Democrats will never vote Fetterman, I think he might even get primaried when he runs for re-eleciton

Vance na banger boy, Rubio seems to be the adult in the room. That said I will vote Vance over any Democrat
After we debated this, Fetterman came for Newsom this morning, angling from the Nick Shirley California fraud exposure.

I was wondering when he was going to start going after his potential rivals for the ticket before the 2028 Primaries.

The 2028 Elections are in full swing!



I wonder how the DNC will react to this. Fetterman will sure get primaried like you predicted.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 6:54pm On Mar 19
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 6:47pm On Mar 19
U.S. allies ( U.K., France, etc) team up to police Strait of Hormuz.

They saw the handwriting and knew the retaliation Trump was planning with Ukraine and the rest of Eastern Europe by giving them up to Putin.

To Okpa and the rest of the NRGC who were gloating about the supposed NATO mutiny against Trump, well, guess who still commands the ship - 47!

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 6:40pm On Mar 19
BlueRayDick:
According to Sean and Okpa Israel’s biggest refinery was hit by Iranian missiles 🤡🤡🤡
Sean is trying to out-propaganda Okpa. He's been doing too much but there can only be one Supreme Leader of the NRGC. I stand with the Okpatollah.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 11:38pm On Mar 18
raumdeuter:
Sometimes what Scott does to them is funny cos the way he drags them on the floor is funny to watch
At least you people got rid of that rãtchet, senséléss dëspicable Jasmine Crockett so congratulations to you people in that state.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 11:03pm On Mar 18
raumdeuter:
I only watch when I see Scott Jennings on there and sometimes Shermichael Singleton. When they are able to tag team together its usually fun cos they demolish the liberals on the set steadily
How do you get through the nønsensé they say? Sky News Australia always show clips of Scott Jennings belittling them but it's pointless at this point.

I like when these Woke people go on Joe Rogan Podcast or Brilliant Idióts Podcast or some other podcast which is unscripted and they don't cut to commercials when the hûmiliation reaches fever pitch.

The times when they brîng their nonsensé to X then get community-noted are top-tier.

But I'll rather an army ant repeatedly stãb my big toe than watch CNN – both are painful, but the former won't damàge my brain.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 9:21pm On Mar 18
Another reason I mock and infantilize the intelligence of anyone who depends on CNN to shape their world view.

I stop arguing once I find out and belittle their intelligence.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrdUa38DJLY?si=2WtbuXx1uWIC9vlw
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 12:11pm On Mar 18
Rarre:
The amount of mossad agents inside tehran ehen

Fear Israel
That TV series called "Tehran" is starting to look more like a documentary than fiction. If you've seen the Seasons 1 and 2, everything happening now would seem like déjà vu.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 9:56am On Mar 18
"Absolute fearlessness."

Then he uses civilian human shields and does press conferences from girls' schools.

Mr. Steaze is already gone. Countdown to Mr. Fearlessness' demise.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m):
A40:
Rubio or Vance should be able to rinse them easily. Rubio might be the better option we shall see.
Nah... Vance is a loose canon. Do you follow that guy on Twitter? Vance will dig it out with Mama Wasila on the timeline if she insults him. Vance is somebody you appoint to fight for your adminstration and enforce, not become POTUS.

Most people also don't know this: Vance is Peter Thiel's boy – Thiel picked and funded his political ascent. That Godfather talk won't really work for him.

Rubio is more presidential but he talks like a real establishment guy.

But I think Centrists will prefer Vance more. You and I know Vance is more likely to tolerate DEI and a few Libertarian ideas than Rubio.


Newsom na dullard wey dey enjoy fine boy privilege. He has people running away from California, Pritzker has turned Chicago to Fallujah and Mosul. Abi shey na Michelle or Kamala wan run, hell maybe Hillary Clinton who knows

If the Democrats were a half decent party they would be pushing their base towards a moderate like Shapiro.
Why are you guys sleeping on Sen. Fetterman? That guy's stock has increased sharply since last year. A proper Centrist – the true Centrist for a polarized country. He's the only one not interested in the Dems and Repubs talk. For him, it's always about country, not partisan divides. Now will the Dems give him the ticket? I think not. He's too normal for them.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 6:48pm On Mar 17
A40:
That will be a shame. TDS aside what credible candidate do the Dems have? Maybe Shapiro if he runs but who else? Surely it can't be Gavin Newsom that somehow ran out of water for the fires despite being literally beside the Pacific Ocean
Newsom? LOL. 23-year-old Nick Shirley has been demolishing Newsom since last night https://x.com/i/trending/2033215524717400201. Same Nick Shirley who ended Gov.Tim Waltz's political career late last year.

Newsom only gained momentum mid last year when he began imitating Trump by tweeting like him and giving key RNC figures mocking nicknames, but that has paled too.

Same Newsom people like Musk and Peter Thiel have been crushing his reputation, and also highlighting almost $2 Trillion in HNI leaving California because of his policies. And if you know Thiel, you better take him serious – he's spot on with his analyses more than most people in Silicon Valley.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 6:28pm On Mar 17
raumdeuter:
I am not surprised at all, I have an idea of what goes on in Trumps mind which is why I do not buy into the mass psychosis

Trump is a troll, he is a jester but he is also serious too and transactional. He knows the people with money, and people with real power, Not EU gumbody Old takers

I suspect at some point, he will speak to Putin, to reach to Iran through a backdoor and install a ruler US through Russia can control, while US throws Europe and Ukraine under the bus to Russia's advantage
Trump was clear about NATO being ùsëless to the U.S. during his second presidential run. Anyone gloating now didn't follow his campaign trail. He was very clear about its redundancy.

What he's doing now is exposing they are paper tigers.
EducationRe: Rethinking Nigeria’s Broken, Dysfunctional Education System by DissTroy(m): 12:01pm On Mar 17
Regular formal education is just a tool. You're suppose to educate yourself further and invest in personal development. You can't learn everything in a classroom.

How many Nigerians still read? How many wake up in the middle of the night to read on global issues and the topical issues?

How many spend hours binge-watching new skills on YouTube?

How many take paid courses? I use to post discounted professional certificate programmes on Facebook and WhatsApp then stopped.

I stayed up till 3:20AM this morning taking an AI skill course programme from a U.S. university. Before that, I took a certified leadership programme.

How many young Nigerians can hold their own in intellectual debates?

How many are committed to improving their vocabulary stock and diction?

How many can debate with traveled professors and technocrats at the highest level?

All what most young Nigerians know is 'cruise', with less than the attention span of a cuttlefish.

Nigerians abhor self-driven intellectual pursuits beyond the show-off titles they can't defend.

That's why we have many dûmb Ph.D holders who seek the title without the intellectual acuity to back the title up.
FoodRe: Okpa Tastes Like Suffering — Risevest CEO, Eke Urum by DissTroy(m): 9:58am On Mar 17
That's why when it comes to cuisines, there's no competing with the Akwa-Cross sub-region. No competition.

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