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Tinubu certificates of 1979 said board of trustees but in 1979, it was board of governors, not board of trustees.

Hope you know Tinubu presented 1979 certificate to INEC?

LegendHero:
How does this relate to Tinubu?

Atiku lawyer we’re just asking a generic question which does not relate to Tinubu. It is a well known laywer tactics.

—If you are under trial for murder for killing a person with knife, they can ask you that “Are you aware people murder people by knife”

That did not in any way say they are talking about Tinubu because to accept any statement, it has to be from the school registrar with him saying “Tinubu certificate was forged”. He NEVER SAID THAT!!!

See him saying Tinubu certificate matched the format they have.

Read!

MeineMutter:
That’s why I said, to Americans and the university that Tinubu attended, such document is not deemed to be forged.

To we Nigerians, we may think otherwise.

So let’s wait and see how Atiku proves his case and see how the court interprets such situation and gives judgement.

Why can't you read?

femisplash:
How could a registered third party produced fake?. Try dey use this brain na.

Hope you saw that 3rd parties do forged certificates?

LegendHero:
—Where is the full copy of the transcript and why did Hyundai cut it off?

—Where in the transcript is the word “forge” mentioned?

—What in the transcript says anything about Tinubu submitting forged certificate to INEC?

He filled wrong information and certify that all information provided was correct. What a fraud!

seunmsg:
Go to South West College and ask them what he used to gain admission to the college. You can institute a discovery case against the school just like Atiku did against CSU. Tinubu never presented any document from Lagos government college anywhere so what's the case?

No replacement or reordered copy was collected

seunmsg:
Olodo, read the OP and stop asking unintelligent question. The school said he submitted a replacement copy issued by the school in 1997. The school never said they did not issue the copy submitted to INEC.

What makes you think someone who claimed he finished from a school thats wasn't in existence at the time did not continue his forgeries?

seunmsg:
Did he present any document from the school to CSU? You guys are so unintelligent sha. He did not gain admission to CSU with any document from Lagos state government college. He gained admission by transferring his academic point at South West College to CSU. If CSU find him worthy of admission, how is that your problem?

Onanuga newspaper. Read the deposition!

seunmsg:
After getting absolutely nothing from the discovery case instituted by Atiku Abubakar against President Bola Ahmed Tinubu in Chicago, the fake news merchant have been trying to spin the outcome of yesterday's deposition to mean that Mr President forged the certificate he presented to INEC. This is far from the truth as representatives of the school never said of infer anything close to that. In fact, they authenticated the certificate submitted by Mr. President and affirmed that he was an exceptional student who graduated with distinction. Below are relevant extracts from the deposition. Caleb Westberg, the registrar of Chicago State University gave testimony on behalf of the school.










5. “Right after the entry ‘F’, the SSN entered indicated in the Southwest transcript is the same as the one that was indicated in CSU records. That is one of the indications that we use to identify students. A Social Security is a unique identifier. “I recognize Southwest College as a feeder school for CSU. Bola Tinubu graduated with Honours. It’s a GPA distinction. It is awarded to high performing students. Accounting is a rigorous Major. He graduated with Honours. Yes, certain students are more motivated than others. “The students who are more motivated go on to accomplish greater things in life. I’ve seen that. As far as I know, he’s the president of Nigeria".



Everyone should pay attention to the part in bols in number 2. The Diploma submitted to Tinubu was a replacement certificate issued to him in 1997. The one he recently applied for was the one the one he did not pick up and a copy was made and given to Enahoro-Eba last year. These certificates were not produced by the university but by outside vendors as stated by the registrar in number 3. So, that explains the difference in fonts, signature and style of the Diplomas issued by the school over the years. David Hundeyin mischievously tried to compare the Diploma submitted by Tinubu to INEC with similar copies of Diplomas issued by the school in 1979. That a very fraudulent thing to do when it has been stated clearly that what Tinubu submitted was a replacement issued in 1997.

This clarification is for sensible folks and not for haters who will never be satisfied with any explanation. Information sourced from the link before. https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2023/10/03/chicago-state-university-registrar-we-get-30-enquiries-a-day-on-tinubu-confirms-graduation/

You're looking at only fake Cable news. Read the deposition!

LegendHero:
The registrar only said he cannot talk about INEC because he hasn’t seen it and that they don’t keep copy of certificate they issue to students.

Are you an illiterate that can’t comprehend?

Read the deposition. They said third parties produce fake certificates!

Supreme Court must disqualify Tinubu, but Nigerians will not wait for Supreme Court

MeineMutter:
This is not what APC said. It is what’s in the documents released and the depositions made by the university’s representative.

It could look forged, since I guess it’s from a third part vendor but the university where he graduated, and the American education system do not have any objection to Tinubu getting the certificate elsewhere. So far the transcript was not tampered with, I feel the university was/is fine with it.

What is now left is to wait to see whether our Appeal court will accept it.

Fake news by Cable

LegendHero:
Lol where is the identity fraud and forgery in The transcript he uploaded?

It seems the guy just bring out words and then open the brain of the headless mob and throw it in their brain to regurgitate.

If he had posted that transcript without any keyword, the headless mobs won’t even know what to do with it or say.

This is the registrar statement Cable themselves:



Source: https://www.thecable.ng/csu-vendors-produce-replacement-certificates-we-dont-have-copy-of-what-tinubu-submitted-to-inec/amp

I cannot spoonfeed you. Check X for the transcript of the deposition.

Elnora signed it which is impossible whether in 1997 or 1979. The CSU clearly states in the deposition that the dont know where the INEC certificate emanated from. They also said third parties produce fake certificates

LegendHero:
Where did they mention the word “Fake”.

Please point me to it. I am waiting.

Go and read the deposition

femisplash:
Did you know the certificate was also certified by Mr.Orr?. Whoever signed, whoever certified, the fact is, CSU did not disown the certificate neither did they call it fake, instead the registrar, under an oath said it MATCH.

You guys are gullible. Tinubu presented forged certificate to inec, confirmed

femisplash:
Exactly, the SSN on both Southwest College and CSU transcripts belongs to Tinubu- Male. Athief'ku lost once again.

They said the only thing received from Tinubu lawyer is the application form for the documents requested. They never received any other documents so how do you mean they collected documents to certify?

femisplash:
Tinubu's replacement diploma was certified by Mr.Orr, an associate general counsel to CSU. The Registrar, however stated that certifying a replacement diploma is not the practice of the institution. In his words, "it is probably a Nigerian thing.

Read the deposition, they said third parties produce fake replacement certificates

femisplash:
According to CSU, a diploma is not an official document but ceremonial. Therefore, once a (certificate )diploma is issued, they no longer have the copy in their records because it is issued only once.

On replacement diploma, the school says "when there is a replacement diploma, it is done by outside vendors" says Caleb Westberg, the registrar of CSU. In response to Atiku Abubakar's third request which was to release a copy of the diploma issued in 1997- the University said the certificates MATCH the format of the Tinubu's replacement dated June 27,1997.

In conclusion, once a student/graduate needs a replacement certificate, a third party vendor-lincensed/registered with the school is responsible to such affected students/graduates after due verifications.

CSU therefore could not under an oath swear to a replacement diploma but was able to confirm/authenticate Tinubu's diploma as it MATCH with the replacement diploma of other students whose names were redacted for privacy reasons.

Read the deposition. They said third party do fake replacement certificates! FAKE!

LegendHero:
The school have mentioned time without number that third party vendor can always reproduce their school replacement certificate. It is not uncommon in USA like they mentioned.

This is the wording from Cableng.

You're in denial but you know the truth. No replacement was picked up

LegendHero:
Lol 😂

Where in the transcript did it mention the nonsense the headless mobs have been saying.

This people don kolomental finally.

No replacement or reordered certificate was picked. The certificate Tinubu submitted to INEC is forged. The dates of birth are forged.
Everything is forged

seunmsg:
You are a complete olodo just like David Odesnsin. The 1979 Diploma will normally be different from the one issued as a replacement in 1997. The one submitted by Tinubu was a replacement copy issued in 1997 and not the copy issued in 1979. Stop trying to mix the issue together. David is simply playing with your infantile brain. Read the testimony of the University registrar and stop confusing yourself. He explained everything.

This is not what they said. Read the deposition

Nuheights:
How can you say it was forged when CSU has said a third party can give such a certificate? In any case, as far as CSU is concerned, what's important to them is the transcript. Tinubu was male; was their student, and graduated with honours. Period.

Read to understand. He must leave the presidency because he forged a certificate and rigged the election. Nobody is talking about dying

MrAgbako:
perhaps you might just go before tinubu. Many that say such about buhari where are they now? They lost their breath of life while bubu is still chopping life and hoping into za oza room😂

This is the bunkum APC is sharing to you guys. Go and read the deposition, Tinubu presented a forged certificate to INEC and the CSU confirmed it

MeineMutter:
May be I should help you explain in a way you would understand better.

You see in the US, once you graduate from their university, they print just only ONE copy of your certificate. They do not make copies or copy and put in your records (file).

When you go and collect the certificate, they give you the only one they have and you don’t write anything like ORIGINAL COPY OF THIS DOCUMENT COLLECTED BY ME, the way we right here.

So anytime you lost or misplace your certificate and go back to your university to request for a copy of the OLD one you lost, the university can’t give you the exact copy because they don’t keep duplicate copy.

It is either you get the latest design of the certificate which the school is using currently, which may be different from the type of design you got years ago when you collected your first and only certificate OR YOU APPROACH A THIRD PARTY COMPANY IN AMERICA WHICH WILL GENERATE ANOTHER CERTIFICATE FOR YOU. This one from a third party company or vendor may not be 100% similar to the first one you got from your university.

The practice of approaching a third party vendor to get this type of certificate IS ALLOWED BY AMERICAN EDUCATION SYSTEM. It is only your academic transcript that you can’t get from 3rd party and that’s the only record your university recognizes and can print and reprint for you anytime you go.

Your university sees or gives credence to ACADEMIC TRANSCRIPTS than CERTIFICATE or DIPLOMA (as it is being called in the US).

I guess what TINUBU did was that: he approached a third party vendor to get another certificate so that he can submit it to our own INEC since that’s what we prefer to see here as Tinubu cannot go back to the university and get another copy.

You're talking out of ignorance. CSU says third party vendors produce FAKE certificates. Have you read the deposition transcript?

akpumping7720:
Alaye calm down and read and stop this hatred before you die of hypertension.
Tinubu presented a certificate from a third party vendor which the university is aware of. The original certificate given cannot be found and it's not possible to get an affidavit from Nigeria court since he didn't study in Nigeria.
Now the university is now telling you that truly Tinubu graduated from the school but they can't authenticate the certificate he presented to INEC but he must have gotten it from third party vendors which they directed students to if they need a replacement.
And that what is most important to them is the students'transcript and not the certificate cos certificates are ceremonial to them but we Nigerians love and cherish certificates so much.

In that transcript, age was 1954 while INEC got 1952. Application form is 1955. Govt college is 1970, South west college transcript says female. CSU said they cannot authenticate Tinubu certificate because it wasn't from them but Tinubu said the certificate is from CSU

Nuheights:
How can you say it was forged when CSU has said a third party can give such a certificate? In any case, as far as CSU is concerned, what's important to them is the transcripts. Tinubu was male; was their student, and graduated with honours. Period.

In the deposition. The transcript will be out soon

ayokellany:
Where did they say it is not from them ?

You go explain tire

famology:
Lol.....they didn't know they were explaining to a block head like you.

Bottom line is the certificate is not from CSU.

Yoighaman:
The current certificate he tendered is a replacement certificate that can easily be acquired from third-party vendors.[b][/b]

This is deep; but let's wait for Atiku's lawyers.

I cannot spoondfees you

Penisdoctor:
please show me were tinubu said that, please.

A certificate has to go...thats what yhe constitution says

Sharpsharp00123:
that Tinubu must go is what u should have said since instead of beating around d bush trying to present it as if u know what u are doing

The registrar said the certificate Tinubu presented to INEC is not from them. How clear can that be?

femisplash:
A school registrar is talking under oath in a court but an illiterate ipob is spewing dogshit behind his phone from abakaliki.