Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 2:53pm On Mar 23, 2017 |
4kings: The bible mentions the Egyptians 100s of times in different places(showing the effect Egypt had on them), but this powerful tribe of israelites(as depicted in the bible), was mentioned i think ONLY ONCE in Egyptian history, and ironically during the reign of King Merneptah son of Rameses and it states on a stone inscription that the tribe israelites(I.si.ri.ar) were one of the tribes conquered then. Of course, Egypt had much impact on Israel. The Hebrews were slaves in Egypt for centuries. Moreover, after the Exodus, they related with the Egyptians. So, it is not out of place that Egypt is mentioned many times in the Bible. Your argument is biased in that it starts from a point which rules out the possibility of the fact that the events recorded in the Bible about Egypt could be true, and that the Egyptians could have tried to forge tales to cover up the embarrassing events recorded about them in the Bible. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 2:47pm On Mar 23, 2017 |
4kings: Wowwww , you mean the ancient israelites that were recorded in eyptian history as just nomads who wondered from city to city and were plagiarised by the Sumerians that nations like Egyptians and ancient babylonians got some of their roots from. Na wa oo
Can you give me a reason why you could possibly think the sumerians(a very great nation then btw) plagiarised the ancient israelites. This is strawman argument. Don't tell me you cannot comprehend. Adam and all the patriarchs until Abraham were not Israelites. Also noting that the story of existence of these Israelite is not as what is told today. You mean the record of Israelite history in the Bible is not true? Prove it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 2:21pm On Mar 23, 2017 |
CatfishBilly: Do you even have proof for all these stuff you're spewing? There is about as much proof of all that I've said as there is for the claim that the book of Genesis may have plagiarized ancient Sumerian texts. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Vatican Makes History: Pope Allows Islamic Prayers, Koran Readings by DoctorAlien(m): 1:14pm On Mar 23, 2017 |
It was in the plan all along. You will get to see more hugs and kisses between the Vatican and Islam, and between the Vatican and other religions. Apostate Christianity and all the other religions of the world would finally morph into one world religion, which is the image to the beast in Revelation 13. This one world religion will pay homage to the beast(papacy), with Sunday as the day of worship. They will get the world governments to sanction their teachings, and to persecute, and finally kill those who would not keep Sunday holy. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 12:57pm On Mar 23, 2017*. Modified: 2:19pm On Mar 23, 2017 |
4kings: Ok, let's start from the beginning. What do you have to say about the similarities of the book of genesis and the ancient sumerian texts Those sumerian texts definitely plagiarized the teachings of the Patriarchs, starting from Adam, which was handed down orally from generation to generation, until Moses put them down in the book of Genesis. Adam taught his son Seth about the living GOD, and how He created all that exists, and the mighty works which He has done. Seth taught his children, until Enoch, who taught Methuselah, until Noah, Abraham, and then until Moses, who wrote them down. During the time the Patriarchs walked this earth, the pagans came in contact with them, and with their teachings. But they distorted them, and enshrouded them in fables. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 12:45pm On Mar 23, 2017 |
4kings, follow the link below for answers to your question about the Pharoah that drowned.
[url]amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception_archaeology_Egypt_Moses[/url] |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 12:09pm On Mar 23, 2017 |
4kings: I asked you a simple question!!! I have read them. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 11:42am On Mar 23, 2017 |
dalaman: The same Richard Elliot Friedman admits that the exodus never happened as the bible says it did that's if it happened at all. His interview that was put up by KingEbukasBlog showed that the exodus is a myth because the exodus story alone was written in over a period of 500 years. He clearly admist in his interview that the story about 6 hundered thousand men(0ver 2 Million including women and kids) leaving Egypt as the bible puts it is non historical. It never happened, his theory is that a much less number of the Israelites left Egyptian during the Exodus and the one written inside the bible is a mythological embellishment. The exodus definitely happened. It has been proven many times. You can look up "The Bible and Egypt" on the site "amazingdiscoveries.org" |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 11:41am On Mar 23, 2017 |
dalaman: Wow, such blatant lies and spin. This is the reason why people never take apologist seriously. The bible clearly says that the sun stood still and did not go down for a whole day. Even in churches people are taught that the sun stood still so that the Jews can see their enemies and kill them, but this deluded apologist of yours is saying that the sun standing still isn't what the bible means, standing still to him means silence which also means darkness. You are an unserious clown. Where did the Bible say that the sun stood still "so that the Jews can see their enemies and kill them"? Can you prove that the Hebrew word translated "stand still" does not literally mean "be silent"? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 6:36am On Mar 23, 2017 |
AgentOfAllah: On what authority is this fantastical claim made? Even more correct than the original Greek and Hebrew manuscripts upon which it is based? Because you won't think before you talk, you did not see the word "translation" in my post. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 6:33am On Mar 23, 2017 |
4kings: benzics has served you already, and you are still requesting for more. 
Have you read on how the various scriptures of the bible and apocrypha came about? Can you prove that the Bible is not always true? What do you know about the Bible and how it came to be? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 9:39pm On Mar 20, 2017 |
Does any "freethinker" or, indeed, anybody have any meaningful objection(that is not strawman argument) to the argument contained in the OP? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 9:17pm On Mar 20, 2017 |
benzics: Actually, you are the one suffering from mental myopia.
I've read different versions and arrived at the intended conclusion, but you only read a certain version and ignore all others, isn't that myopic?
Well even your KJV says I see no difference DoctorAlien: Below is an exposition by Dr. Claude Mariottini.
In Hebrew, the word translated “stand still” literally means “be silent.” In this context, Joshua was commanding the sun “to be silent,” that is, to keep from shining. Since the sun was rising in the east, his command to the sun was that it refrains from shining. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 8:54pm On Mar 20, 2017 |
benzics: I thought you believe Jesus is God?
So you mean a common man like James or even John will tell you more about how God behaves than God himself?? But James wrote his letter under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. So, all the contents of his letter are in accordance with GOD's will. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 8:52pm On Mar 20, 2017 |
First of all, I use only the KJV, because it is the most correct translation of the Bible. Take note. benzics: How will the sun go down if it is not shining? So the sun would Have to stop shining IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SKY so as to create darkness? DoctorAlien: Below is an exposition by Dr. Claude Mariottini.
In Hebrew, the word translated “stand still” literally means “be silent.” In this context, Joshua was commanding the sun “to be silent,” that is, to keep from shining. Be free from mental myopia. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 8:39pm On Mar 20, 2017 |
benzics: You are basically saying God doesn't exist, since you seem to know how he behaves.
I might as well create a God who provides rain, and then I tell people to pray for rain, if they eventually see rain, "all glory be to the God of rain", if they don't, "the God of rain answers when he deems fit"... And there you go, I've completely deceived people to believe in the imaginary God I created!
Jesus didn't say "ask, and if I like it, I'll give", he rather said "ask and you will receive"... Stop modifying your" infallible" book Read 1 Jn. 5:14; James 4:3. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian God by DoctorAlien(m): 8:29pm On Mar 20, 2017 |
|
Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian God by DoctorAlien(m): 5:32pm On Mar 20, 2017 |
hahn: So Cain married one of his sisters via incest? Who do you expect him to marry? Did we all today not descend from Adam? Should we, because we want to avoid incest, desist from marrying? And what do you think would have happened if the grandchildren of Noah after the flood refused to marry, simply because they would like to avoid incest? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian God by DoctorAlien(m): 5:26pm On Mar 20, 2017 |
hahn: What is the name of Cain's wife and who are her parents? While the Bible does not mention the name of Cain's wife, you can be very sure she's one of Adam's daughters(Gen. 5:4). |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 5:23pm On Mar 20, 2017 |
benzics: Damn! Another remodification of the biblical context by some Apologist.
Do you know what will happen if the sun should stop shining? What baffles me most is you believe that shit happened! What will happen? I believe you can read and I believe you have a functional brain. Reread that exposition; this time slowly. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 5:13pm On Mar 20, 2017 |
benzics: So asking for your loving mother to be cured of cancer is satisfying your lust? You never stop surprising us.. GOD answers prayers only when the conditions are met by the one praying. And then, He answers only as He dims fit. He might decide to let cancer take His child out of this wicked, sin-cursed world for the best reasons best known to Him, knowing that such a person would rise in his/her immortal body on that glorious resurrection morning to suffer diseases no more. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 4:15pm On Mar 20, 2017 |
obinna58: What made u think bible wasn't human made The Bible is yet to be equaled by any human work. The glorious light of its divine Wisdom continues to confound even men of understanding. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian God by DoctorAlien(m): 4:11pm On Mar 20, 2017 |
The sons of GOD which took to themselves wives of the daughters of men(Gen. 6:2) were the descendants of Seth, the custodians of the knowledge and oracles of the true GOD. The daughters of men referred to were the daughters of the descendants of Cain, who were steeped in rebellion against GOD, after the footsteps of their father, Cain. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 4:05pm On Mar 20, 2017 |
benzics: Why is it that Christians ask for things and they don't get it? "Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts." James 4:3 |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 4:01pm On Mar 20, 2017 |
|
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 3:58pm On Mar 20, 2017 |
The view that Joshua prayed for more darkness is in agreement with the biblical text because the sun stood still (was silent, did not shine) for a whole day. This view also allows for a better understanding of the text without forcing upon it an interpretation that would require the reversal of the laws of physics. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 3:56pm On Mar 20, 2017 |
benzics, below is an exposition by Dr. Claude Mariottini.
In Hebrew, the word translated “stand still” literally means “be silent.” In this context, Joshua was commanding the sun “to be silent,” that is, to keep from shining. Since the sun was rising in the east, his command to the sun was that it refrains from shining.
When Joshua came to fight against the Amorites, he came at night and caught them by surprise. Joshua was aided by the darkness caused by a huge storm that produced hail so big that it killed many people. In fact, the biblical text says that more people died from the hailstones than the people of Israel killed with the sword.
Since the hailstorm did not affect the army of Israel, Joshua needed the storm to last so that the hail could continue decimating the army of the Amorites. Consequently, Joshua’s prayer was for more darkness (the continuation of the storm) and not for more light. The reason Joshua’s army did not kill many soldiers was because the storm prevailed most of that day. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 11:18am On Mar 20, 2017 |
Have the atheists no proof of their claim that the Bible is not always true? |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Case For Agnosticism by DoctorAlien(m): 11:13am On Mar 20, 2017 |
|
Christianity Etc › Re: Tomorrow Is Sunday by DoctorAlien(m): 11:46pm On Mar 18, 2017 |
Sunday is not the LORD's day. The Sabbath day is the LORD's day. See Isa. 58:13. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 1:07pm On Mar 18, 2017 |
MrMontella: I cannot redo what you know I've done a thousand times bro When and where did you prove the Bible false? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Best Argument For The Existence Of GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 12:06am On Mar 18, 2017 |
MrMontella: exactly. best reply You can actually try to disprove my argument. Prove the Bible false. Don't produce red herrings. But I know that you hate anything that puts the burden of proof upon you. |