Staphylococcus:


Not only Democrats. Everybody downplayed it. Republicans did. CNN did, Fox news did. It wasn't a Democrat thing. Almost all played it down.

I agree, but one group undermined and downplayed it thinking the population would follow early recommendations. The other downplayed it and actively told the population to ignore early recommendations.

Staphylococcus:


You are not current.

Sir, I no get day data now but I still day do night browsing na. How much current do you want me to be?

Above all, how does being current change if what is said is true or not?

Staphylococcus:


Union or no union, their jobs Americans can never do.

It's one glaring fact statesike California and Texas Know. Each of this states have economies bigger than that of Canada and they know the importance of immigrants.

If you find an American picking potatoes, he is a junky trying to raise funds for meth. Or he is damn broke and needs money urgently.

He won't do that job for a month once he fixes the urgent problem. They can't just do some jobs.

Well, I can't say a thing about this as I have not found adequate materials to form an opinion.

I do believe however that given the choice particularly at the moment of gross unemployment, many more Americans would be willing to do those jobs.

gypsey:
Trump is definitely winning, there are no strong oppositions.




Union is the best thing for any worker or workers trust me, i know, without the union this big money grabbing co operations and companies like Amazons, warl marts and Mcdees. will just treat their workers like shiit.

I disagree. The thing with Union is that it is as bad for small businesses as corporationism.

The problem is that while they are a few big corporations they are good for, they are detrimental to small businesses. And more important, what is the use of Union when the companies would take the jobs to other countries without unions and you lose all the jobs?

How useful has Union been in making jobs stay in the country?

Are they not causing more job losses and unemployment than creating jobs?

Staphylococcus:


Who else will take the blame? Pelosi

Pelosi that downplayed it is even attacking Trump. All Fox news host that downplayed it have all changed tongues. So the president is to blame for listening to his Republican and Democrat fellows.

It's politics, elections are close. Do you expect them to pay him on the back. It's normal for them to open his flaws.

You need see the Joe Biden advert. He nailed Trump.

Let me search it out for you. Realistic fact and statement


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmieUrXwKCc

Than God for once someone is understanding that the Democrats downplayed it as well.

As for Joe's ad, while it is good, you should have seen the comeback Trump released. It was fatality. They started it with his interview saying Trump was racist in banning flights from China. They finish Joe with that advert oh.

Also, they stated realistic facts too.

1) The Democrats said they did not need to ban flights from China
2) They told people to ignore early CDC recommendations of quarantine and social distancing
3) They blocked the stimulus bill and added unnecessary things
4) Focused more on closing churches than mosques
5) Lied about their need for ventilators. At the moment New York is sending excess ventilators to other states
6) Currently blocking more funding for small businesses

Everyone has facts, the question is is the fact true and relevant?

frankson1:





I may agree with you on this, which naturally it should be lower because people are indoors. No random shootings of people in clubs and on the streets. No accidents from speeding drivers etc. But believe me, if there was never a lockdown or it's been lifted, they should be ready to start counting hundreds of thousands of dead bodies.

Reports from Italy few weeks ago was scary.

While I understand this, do you not also think it plausible that Italy blew up the rate so as to get more money after the pandemic is over?

Just think for a moment the aid Italy will receive after this all. Can you not for a moment believe a politician thought about it too?

Do you not think it plausible that a struggling nation fast losing relevance would see the pandemic as a means to ramp up aid. Remember the Italians are as corrupt as we are.

And more importantly, even with all the death rates from the virus, their death rate was just a little above the average before their lockdown.

Staphylococcus:


Good question.

As a politician, As at when I got intelligence report in November, I would have made sure report was validated by another intelligence report with a matter of urgency not exceeding 14days.
If reports are coherent, I will meet with experts, stakeholders, members of my cabinet and governor's, reps and senators to discuss what's at hand.

Such meeting would be key to arrive at prevention and mitigating methodologies which I will activate temporarily for a month while our economy is still running.

By January, world trend will determine if am to stay put on measures like banning flights, or relaxing measures. Which indefinitely won't be doing as awareness has already exploded then.

A month won't hurt as bad as what's happening now. The earlier measures would have exposed us to the true reality.

Of what use is a leader when he can follow the recommendations of the experts in his cabinet.

Don't forget to clap for me of you impressed

Good analysis, and would have been perfect had all things been equal.

Now that is almost exactly what he did. However guess what Democrats did with the early recommendations of CDC

They ignored it. The CDC recommended social distancing as early as January. It was with that recommendations Trump said the virus will be over soon.

Can you guess what the Democrats did? They ignored it. They publicly came out and told their states to disregard the early recommendations from CDC and Trump, hence New York.

While your analysis is flawless, you are forgetting the Democrats would still have and did undermine any recommendations from his administration.

Bro, if Trump had acted earlier, they would have disregarded it. Remember when he blocked Chinese people from coming in but his people, remember he recommended quarantine for returnees, remember the governors told their people it was not necessary.

Imagine Trump trying to lockdown the country in January, just imagine the field day they would have had.

Staphylococcus:


You think it's easy to hire immigrant? Except you want to wash plates and work in warehouses at rates close to slavery. Americans will never do this jobs in the first place.

I support his immigration moves. I have no single problem with it. Told someone on this thread it's the best and only thing he did.

Excluding the fact that Americans have to pay for the wall after boasting that Mexico was going to pay.

He needs time to strategize. A flawed economy with an election coming. He needs that time to know the next point of action that will give him grounds.

With present status quo. If elections was to be today. Trump is going back to Trump Towers

If election was to hold today, Trump is winning with a greater margin.

As for low paying jobs, I think it is time they did away with Unions. Those unions increase the cost of labor like mad.

Staphylococcus:



Was it you I was telling Its only immigration rule he got right. I have no problem with his immigration rules, they top notch. That the only thing he got right.

But response to pandemic. 15/100

Sir, please can you do one thing for me, can you list out how Trump would have gone about it from the time of his impeachment that would not have resulted in a battle of veto or Democrats telling their people to disregard him?

Blindersoff:


You keep saying do your research when you have not done any kind of positive research but only to twist facts.

The speed of the spread and high death toll plus the fact that this is a totally new terrain medically necessitated the need for government to take responsibility of disposing of corpses this way.

This may not be the first time cold trucks at being used, but this is the first time they are being used on such a large scale especially when it all was preventable if Trump had done his job as he should but rather chose to politicize it and thus endangered the lives of thousands of not millions of Americans .

Ever wonder why Newyork is the hotbed of this virus?

Bros, how am I twisting facts that is available online. The problem is your type do not have the ability to sit down and sieve through information on their own. They just take what they hear off the news.

What I am asking you to do is not rocket science, just go to US statistics of death to confirm. It is public and free.

As for why new York is the hotbed the answer is simple. They publicly disregarded the early warning of Trump and CDC that told them to maintain social distance. Nancy Pelosi, The Mayor, governor and head of health came out to tell people to go about their normal lives despite recommendations from CDC to start practicing social distancing.

Na people like una day make them talk say the best way to hide information from the black man is in writing.

Staphylococcus:


You are not following trend.

"People with underlying ailments are the most vulnerable"

This is a fact and why the elderly are mostly victims because certainly, they do will have one.

Of one is 35 years and has Asthma, he is more vulnerable than a 60 year old without any ailment.

That's why it's ravaging the blacks who don't take health serious and don't even know they have unfavorable medical ailments.

Trust me, Am a die hard follower of Trump. He is just shifting attention. I know him well. He is buying time with this new immigration

Sir, I am not saying what you are saying is not true, what I am saying is that it is not as plain as you are saying it. The question to bear in mind is what does he need to buy time for?

He has already given a guideline for opening the economy, and he is wise enough to know that a lot of companies would want to hire immigrants over citizens despite the coming US unemployment rate.

Should he not lookout for his citizens?

Blindersoff:


You are not making any sense whatsoever.

Democrats were shouting from high heavens that Trump should act fast while he was the one downplaying the whole thing himself.

He even went as far as cutting medical funds of the country and disbanding the quick response team in the White house who oversea medical emergencies of this nature.

That had nothing to do with Democrats.

This is not like flu..this is a new virus with zero immunity against it and the only thing we can do is trying to lessen the associated symptoms it comes with which can kill you when you have a compromised immune system which is why the high death toll is mostly among the elderly and those with underlying medical conditions.

What you are saying about the Democrats is completely false because Republicans were the ones who claimed the virus was not all that and a huge hoax and this reflected in the republican run cable news Network called FOX

Hey, bro, please and please, at the moment I am not getting data because I am not generating money with it. My last month consumption of data was over 30 gig.

I watched all the news clips from beginning online. To say the Democrats were the ones shouting for Trump to act fast is a balant lie.

Another lie is to say he cut funding of the country. It means you did not even check to see if that was true.

While he presented a bill to do that, the Democrats in Congress refused it. How can he cut funding to something that did not pass.

The final lie is your claim they said the virus was a hoax. I watched the clip over 4 times. They did not say the virus was a hoax, they said the Democrats will make another hoax out of it.

Please fact check what you say. Democrats that were telling people to go to Chinatown, use the subway, hug a Chinese man. Democrats that were saying nose mask were not necessary, that tore up his speech addressing corona virus. Is that the Democrats you say were shouting high heavens from the beginning? The same Democrats that stalled a relief bill that were shouting high heavens?

Please, you need to watch the videos again.

Staphylococcus:


You are not following trend.

"People with underlying ailments are the most vulnerable"

This is a fact and why the elderly are mostly victims because certainly, they do will have one.

Of one is 35 years and has Asthma, he is more vulnerable than a 60 year old without any ailment.

That's why it's ravaging the blacks who don't take health serious and don't even know they have unfavorable medical ailments.

Trust me, Am a die hard follower of Trump. He is just shifting attention. I know him well. He is buying time with this new immigration

Sir, I am not saying what you are saying is not true, what I am saying is that it is not as plain as you are saying it. The question to bear in mind is what does he need to buy time for?

He has already given a guideline for opening the economy, and he is wise enough to know that a lot of companies would want to hire immigrants over citizens despite the coming US unemployment rate.

Should he not lookout for his citizens?

Blindersoff:



At the bolded. Yet mortuaries are over filled with dead bodies to the extent they had to start using cold trucks to store dead bodies and for speed of doing away with the large numbers of dead bodies had to bury hundreds on an island?

There is no data that can pinpoint exactly who would die or live from being infected by the virus.

Human life is not a game of Bingo

Once again, do your research. Do you know for a fact this is not the first time they used cold trucks to store bodies or the first time Mortuaries have been filled?

And the only reason the government is the one doing the burial is because victims of the virus not cremated can't be claimed.

Please and please, do not take my word for it, do your research, just ask on your own if they don't do it on their own on occasion.

Staphylococcus:


Downplayed the virus

Saying it does not exist.

It's a normal flu

Don't panic

It's an exergeration

Bit nobody cares about what anybody said. The president is the one on the hot seat. So blaming Democrats, press, Republicans or China is childish.

I could have said I had the cure then, would he believe me and maintain boarded opened. Anybody can say anything, what makes you a leader is to work with your experts and cabinet to bring about cutting edge prevention and mitigation plans.

But it's too late now. Fighting-on is all that can be done now.

OK, I believe I have watched most of them then. First of all, they did not say the virus was not real, they said the reactions of Democrats is what is a hoax.

Right now, antegen testing is showing that the rate of infection might be at least 3 times the recorded infected rate. That means 2 times as more people than recorded caught it an did not know. Is that not the same pattern as the flu.

Right now, do you think the Democrats do not know the president will be the one to blame?

As stupid as they are, do you not believe the increased possibility of them involving in sabotage so the president will take the blame?

Staphylococcus:



You are the only one contesting figures. No one is contesting figures presently cos they now know it's real.

Trump you said bam Muslim countries . You don't know Trump. He banned poor Muslim countries we have little or no affiliation to terrorism.

Did you see him list Saudi Arabia? No, Saudi is in hot romance with USA like never before.

Kuwait, Qatar, Oman... ? It was not transparent. Saudi has more links to terrorism than Nigeria and we almost fell on the list.

You are talking from a far different perspective. Even Trump is not using it as an excuse. That because they wanted to strip him, that's why he held back. He dare not say such.

Is it not same Democrats that are exposing him that he got Intel in November? After placing ban on flights, 40k passengers landed on US soil from China, was it Democrats?

This not a time to shift blames but take responsibility. If the economy finally opens and all goes well, it's fine for all. If a spike happens, he will be held responsible. That's what he fails to note.

Now he has banned immigration, did anybody query him? He is the president. He will be held accountable for his actions

Sir, once again, do the research yourself. I am not the only one contesting the figures. Just go to US death rate website and compare the total death rate for a month in last year and now.

And it is public news that New York added over 3500 deaths to their numbers without testing.

It is also evident that the cause of death of the virus is clogged lungs. However if you die of kidney disease, provided you have the virus it will be recorded that the virus killed you.

Once again, no body will question a ban with evidence. And here is the evidence supporting ban on immigration

1) Millions of America lost their jobs and will need all the jobs they can get
2) Left alone, companies will try to hire cheaper labour from outside while neglecting the unemployed citizens.
3) The ban will favour employment of US citizens over immigrants. If Trump have tried this without these evidence, he would have been tackled.

frankson1:
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Really! The US have over 700k cases and over 42k deaths and counting and you call it 'blowing out of proportion?

The' blowing out of proportion' is it just in the US or around the world?

Please sir, do your research, what is the normal death rates of the affected regions?

Do you know with all the racking up of death rate the current death rate is still lower than the average death rate before corona virus?

Don't take my word for it, research it yourself.

And people like mentioning 700k cases. Do you guys seem to forget that over half of those cases are at home and do not need medical help to beat the virus?

Staphylococcus:


One question will always be asked in any scenario where their is a leaders. Did he act or was just thinking of consequences?

At this stage, who takes sole responsibility? The leader.

Do you follow Fox news, They also downplayed it. Republicans downplayed it on TV saying it's just a normal flu.

Anybody could have said anything. They not the president. When the heat comes down, it comes to the president. Who is addressing the people now, the president. Who is facing the press, the president. No one will blame Democrats or Republicans that down played it.

Nobody is even taking about those that downplayed it now. The whole attack is on Trump. That he failed to note.

Let me see if I can get videos of people downplaying the virus before it got to the US.

Sir, granted they told people not to worry about it, but they also told people in the same statement that all what they said will be possible if they follow CDC guidelines. Guess who told everybody to ignore CDC guidelines, Nancy Pelosi, the mayor of new York, the governor of new York, their head of environment.

When the CDC was telling people to avoid crowded places, when the Republicans were telling the country that everything will be alright if they adhered to CDC recommendations, Democrats were telling their constituency to ignore CDC recommendations, to keep going to Chinatown, to take the subway, to keep hugging Chinese people. And guess where the hotspots are, Democrat states mostly.

Tell me, how should Trump have handled Democrats undermining his recommendations? If Democrats have told their people to adhere to CDC recommendations encouraged by Trump, would it have been this bad?

Staphylococcus:

Everybody did, Fox, Democrat, Republicans. Check on YouTube. Loads of them

If I showed you CNN, you will say it's fake. This is fox news


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifKbwDf51bA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAh4uS4f78o

Sorry, please my data is low and I don't watch videos for now.

What did everybody do?

Staphylococcus:


And of death rate spikes? What will be your conclusion. You didn't address that.

When did Democrats tell people to disregard Trump? Trump himself downplayed Corona before arrival. Toyed with it.

It's democracy. He has veto powers. Excluding bail out packages he got approval for, what other move has he made that he got approval? He uses same power.

So why the delay? He joked with it.

Sir please do your research, have you noticed they stopped giving information on deaths outside corona virus since it came. In fact one can argue they are deliberately hiding the figures.

Anyhow, here is a fun fact, despite the corona virus deaths, despite the fact they are racking up all deaths to corona virus if they find you have the virus in your system after death (even though you have cancer) the current death rate is still lower than the normal average before corona virus. Do not take my word for it, do your own research.

The fun thing with Veto power is that without evidence supporting the Veto power, Congress and Senate can vote against it. Does a president just battling impeachment really want to enter a battle of veto's?

Then outside veto, you have the law, should he have banned flights earlier without evidence a lot of people would have sued the government and won. Remember they sued him when he banned flights from Muslim countries and forced him to reverse it.

And even with the evidence, do you know Democrats were bringing a bill that would have stripped him of his power to ban flights?

The president is not as powerful as you think in US, and for good reason.

Come on, so you did not see the video of Pelosi, New York Mayor, governor and head of disease control telling people to go about their normal lives and use the subway and go to Chinatown even when CDC advised against it?

rottennaija:


We know how to deal with malaria, typhoid, syphilis etc, even someone with chronic underlying situation can manage these you have mentioned.

But do you know how to manage this with Covid-19? Covid-19 is that dangerous because we have not known way of dealing with it.

Now get this. Even with our knowledge of the management of the above mentioned diseases, their death rate is higher than 5%.

Now we have a sickness whose death rate is lower than 5% without management.

After 2 months, people are beginning to see there is no solution in sight. Do you truly expect people to stay at home till then?

Who will feed them, pay their rent, their utility bills. Who will resurrect their businesses. Even in war people come out after the raid is over.

Is there any sense in staying on lockdown for a year when the sickness will most likely fade away on its own way before then without lockdown?

Staphylococcus:


You are sounding like Trump. Does impeachment hold him back from reading reports and taking decisive actions. Okay, Democrats attacked, didn't he finally ban and still allowed 40k travellers from China to the USA after ban was in place. It all came late.

He did what he should have done earlier without consultation. He will stop immigration to the USA today, did he get approval to do that or used his veto power? That's a cheap political excuse that impeachment held him back or people were complaining. Are people not complaining now.

It takes great skills to become a leader and scenarios like this only opens the weak and fragile. He is feared by his subordinates and why revelations won't come out now cos no one wants to be sacked. The fragility of his cabinet is exposed to all. Every one of them is extra ordinarily careful with his words.

Sir, imagine me telling you to drop your phone at home because someone might steal it later in the day. Will you listen to me? I don't think so, because while my concern is valid, I lack evidence.

Now imagine me telling you same thing after you have heard a gunshots in the area, would you listen to me? I think you would, because now, even though you have not been robbed, you have seen evidence that you could be robbed.

Sir, the only reason Trump could act on a later day without backlash from Congress was because at a later date there was evidence the disease was a threat. And even at that, Democrats brought a bill to the house wanting to remove that power from him.

There was nothing Trump could have done without sufficient evidence to support it, and as of November/December, the evidence was not just there. Without evidence. Veto power can be voted against. Did you really expect Trump not to lose a battle of Veto during an impeachment trial?

Come on now.

Staphylococcus:


Are you saying 42k in seven weeks is healthy, with 13k + coming from one state. No... That's outrageous. It's not war.

Sir, once again I ask that you do your research, do not take my word for it, check the average monthly death rates of the affected states.

Staphylococcus:


You talking about the President of the US here. He does not require the Senate to do that. When he did, did he get approval. The political and media foolishness got America to where it stands today. That I can never dispute several Republicans, Democrats and Media outlets downplayed it. Trump ignored, downplayed and boasted about it to no avail. From 1 to 15, and now 42k in less than 6weeks.

Pelosi can blame the president, Coumo can, or anybody else. Who is Trump going to blame as the president? That's what he failed to realise and that Democrats are capitalising on. His failures. Economy grounded, stocks in a mess up, deficit piling up.

And Trump need open economy at the expense of human life's to clean up. It's not all about the economy. It's for political gains

Sir, if not for the news from Italy, Congress would have heard a bill limiting Trump's power from banning flights.

There is not much Trump can do outside Congress and Senate.

And would you guys stop this at the expense of human lives nonsense.

It is not the economy vs lives it is lives vs lives.
It is people committing suicides from loosing their homes and businesses as a result of the lockdown.

It is people divorcing and breaking homes as a result of the strain from the lockdown.

It is people unable to pay their medical bills and dying from a result of the lockdown.

It is people robbing from loosing their livelihood as a result of the lockdown.

As for Trump downplaying it, granted he knew by November, but here he was battling an impeachment, do you expect him to have closed the border during the impeachment battle and given the Democrats more arsenal to battle him with?

Please, can you give a solution he would have taken that the Democrats would not have blocked before now.

Here he was asking Americans to stay at home and follow CDC guidelines, but Pelosi went to Chinatown and told people, openly told people to disregard him. All the Democrats governors did the same thing. Did you notice that all the hotspots are in Democrat states and cities? The same Democrats that told their people to disregard Trump. Tell me, how should he have handled that?

Martinola:

And you think you made sense?
Did you ask yourself why the state governors including the ones from his party are not with him on this one?
Over 700k got infected with over 40k dead and you think it's overhyped?
The reason those people are staging those protest is because Mr. Trump lifted the lockdown which the governors did not agree to.

Sir, there is only one Republican governor not siding with Trump, all the others are with him on this.

And right now, antegen test is showing that the infection rate might be at least 3 times the tested number. Meaning three times as much people caught the virus without knowing they did.

As for the death, have you noticed death rate for non covid sickness has been hidden? Do you know why? Because even with the Covid death, the current death rate is lower than the average death rate of those region before Covid-19.

Let that sink in with over 42k deaths in 7 weeks, the death rate is still lower than the normal average before Covid-19. Do not take my word for it, you do your own research to see if I am right.

Staphylococcus:


Let's imagine states are racking up counts, does it warrant 42k death in 7 weeks?


Less than 5million tested in 350 million and you gunning for opening the economy.

The most dying are people with underlying ailment which is common to old people. Reasons why you can see blacks of all age groups falling victims the most.

The model was a projection which has failed, but as it stands with reality, the graph just flattened and their must be a considerable drop to assure people.

It's easier to say let them open the economy. I can say it too of I won't be in the fore-front. Of am allowed to work from home, it's okay by me. But that will be selfish of me. Do you know how many police, fire fighters, doctors, nurses, public transportation drivers and grocery shop attendant that have most their life's. Now you want to flood the places again when you not even having figures that warrant you to do such.

All this people protesting are the most cautious people. They just have self believe they can't be infected and trying to push others.

Sir, have you noticed something is missing in all these, the death rate outside Covid-19. Do you know even now currently with the corona virus deaths, the overall death rate now is lower than the average in all the places,

People die, and 42,000 death rate in 7 weeks was actually 857 deaths per day. Please do not take my word for it, google the normal death rates of those places before corona virus, tell me if it is lower or higher.

Susu888:



You obviously haven't been updated that masks nd gloves are almost useless so what you nd the idiots protesting are suggesting is not the way to go, lockdown is the only way to stop the infection from spreading.


Do you think china never tried the mask nd gloves sh*t all in the bid not to make it obvious to the world that it was loosing its grip on the situation? Guess wht finally happened?? Lockdown! Because it can't be stopped by masks ,gloves nd distancing.


And lets say they manage to make it work in the U.S.A how in the world can you make naija people where mask and gloves?? Nd in cities as crowded as lagos nd kano.

I thought you were only dumb but it turns out you're also pure stupidity....You lack a functioning brain.


Bleep off my mentions i dislike stupid folks that argue blindly.

The fact you accuse others of lacking a functioning brain when from the post you are as guilty of this is something to behold.

The lockdown is not and was never the best option. The problem China faced was not that the masks were ineffective but that there were insufficient.

Also and more importantly, China did not actively push the usage of masks. Infact they were denying the sickness could be transmitted from human to human as at late January.

Guy reason now, God no give you number 6 for fancy.

Staphylococcus:


Trump was given a detailed intelligence report with recommendation to shut down boarders. The economic impact was gruesome and why he neglected it.

When in read on Israeli times that USA gave them Intel in November last year, I was weak. This was a well planned out if ignorance.

If he had done earlier, The economy would be opened by now and the count can never be close to what's on ground now. Same economy you trying to protect has been grounded. So whats the gain of the delay. Now you have a crashed economy and high death and infected toll.

Let this pandemic pass over, I believe alot of revelations still in stock. America got Intel about this pandemic early enough. It was downplayed.

So let me get this straight, he was fighting an impeachment, and you expect him to have ordered the border closure when battling the impeachment, something the Democrats would have countered immediately and used as more asernal in pursuing the impeachment.

Hmm, one simple question, do you recall when he stopped flights from China Democrats presented a bill to remove that power from his hand?

nextstep:


That's the hard part... half the population would have been unhappy either way. People are protesting now in spite of the strong medical evidence for lockdown. They certainly would have howled louder if the lockdown was imposed earlier.

Based on information available in February, there was general consensus by America's health professionals that it would not get so bad, and could be contained. Partly because the numbers from Wuhan did not turn out so bad (which we're now realizing was... not the whole truth, to be nice about it). The business community insisted on running, people insisted on traveling, and economists warned that shutting down things prematurely might be worse for the country... if he ran counter to that, the American public would have had his head.

OK, so it happened and the bottom fell out: in response, unprecedented support to individuals, businesses, economic sectors. They tried.

Not a fan of Trump, but honestly, no leader can navigate this issue unscathed. He isn't helping matters by aggravating anybody and everyone who does not kowtow to him, but man... it's just tough.

Sir, right now the medical evidence for the lockdown is actually losing it's strength day by day.

All the doctors are coming out to say they greatly exaggerated the death rate, and it would never have gotten to that even without the lockdown.

Staphylococcus:


A leader needs to be proactive and have open ears to experts. He is not a man of all trade. That's the failures of Trump.

He downplayed, underated and still boasted about preparedness. At first hit, America caved in.

This same America warned Israel in November about this pandemic and ignored the reports for economic gains.

And price all Americans have to pay.

Chairman sir, you seem to forget that unlike here in Nigeria where the president can do as he likes without reprimand from the Congress, there are a lot of things Trump can't do without Senate approval.

Trump blocked flights from China and Europe on time. Do you know their Congress passed a bill wanting to remove his ability to do that?

Trump asked Americans to adhere to CDC guidelines on time, do you know Nancy Pelosi went to China town and told people to disregard every recommendations from Trump and celebrate in Chinatown?

Please en, can you can you categorically state out what other actions he could have taken earlier that the Democrats will not have blocked?

Staphylococcus:


Easier said than done. Trust me, you have no idea about reality. You need to stare at one and I can tell you, your mentality will change.

People are scared but everybody is acting strong. If work should resume today, many will give excuses they want to work from home. Parents won't take their kids to school. Less people will fly that it will be almost a loss for airlines. In all sectors, many will hold back. Forget all this media bragging. Oyinbo fear pass blacks. He can park his car in office premises and be working from inside. He won't enter office.

The fact that no known cure is the fear people have. Parents don't want to go to work and come home to infect their kids.

Varying perspectives though, but it's certain that no one wants to die

Bro, I have every idea of reality, people are not as scared as you think, particularly now they have had time to do nothing and think.


They are not dumb sir, they have actually thought the information on their own. They are not like Nigeria that believes everything people say because they use the title scientists. Now let me give you the facts they have seen.

This is the truth they have come to realize

1) The sickness is fatal to less than 5% of infected.

2) All scientists that screamed murder have admitted that all the model used in the beginning was exaggerated and the death rate will never have gotten to that point.

3) Antegen testing proves that much more people have already gotten it, meaning the infection rate is way higher and thus the death rate way lower.

4) That a lot of states are practically racking up all their deaths to covid-19. New York went as for as to add over 3500 deaths, without testing to that of Covid-19

5) Those most dying are a particular age group meaning specific solution can be tailored to protect those people.

With all these, you expect people to watch their source of livelihood drain, years of building disappear, probably lose their homes from being unable to pay mortgage, their relationships strained from being able to provide for their families,

bro, the lockdown was based on false models that they have realized is faulty, they have sense enough to challenge it.

rottennaija:


When if you see someone that has Covid-19, you will under than hunger pales in comparison. In fact, the fear alone of knowing kills faster, the comes all of the things you never expected. You can suddenly discover you cant breath, can be followed by squeezing throat, diarrhoea, basically anything you might never experience before.

Hunger kills... But Covid-19 kills faster with almost anything in its armament.

Bro, what part of the fact that over 60% of those with the virus won't feel/know they have it until their body kills it don't you get?

What part of the fact that only 10% of infected will show symptoms strong enough to warrant hospital visitation don't you get?

What part of the fact that the sickness is fatal to less than 5% of infected don't you get?

The disease is like any other one. I just recovered Malaria and I felt like dying, so feeling bad with any sickness is not new.

But to say everyone should be afraid because something is fatal to less than 5%.

Do you know more than 5% of people lose their lives as a result of alcohol, you don't see anybody moving to ban clubs as a result.