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EducationResponse by donciccio(op): 7:35pm On Sep 16, 2009
dayo1401:
Fellow nairalander this just came up on my mind, as there as been so much debate about discrimination against Hnd holders unlike their B.sc counter part, but i want to put this to the house, should HND really be equivalent to HND,
I am of the view that HND should never be equivalent to B.sc, for the following reason,
The way the institutions awarding this degrees are strcuted,
as we know the universities awards B.sc degrees and we all know the the rigour you go through, before you get awarded this degree, talking about,  the lectures, many of them phd holders and professor, of years and years of experience,
unlike the hnd holders, where b.sc graduates and hnd graduate head the institution
secondly, you get tutored by quality lectures including professors and phd holders, while unlike the HND counterpart, mere b.sc degree holders are thier lectures, some are even hnd holders,
b.sc is really in depth into the theoretical aspect and well into practical, thats why we have the industrial training, siwes, practical for science,
this enable the b.sc graduate to know why things are done, and not just doing them, since he has a better understanding of the principles and strong foundation to build upon any practical work, this gives him and edge and make him better in acquiring further higher degree to improve his qualification
unlike the Hnd holder, he dwells basically more on practical, and does not knwo why things are done, example, enginering, an hnd graduate know the how to do the engineering work better maybe, in the practical side, but the b.sc graduate know the principles that governs engineer, which is what you need to know, before you talk about practical, even though the practical is very essential you cannot underestimate the fact that this principles and fundamental which the b.sc graduate is more deep into, make him better in carrying out more research, that can greatly improve the engineering field,  solve the world problems and bring in new innovation,

with these little tips, i believe that the hnd graduate should really be expecting the same pay, in the organization, as the b.sc conterpart cos they honestly didnt go through the same learning process,


please share your views, what do you think, dont criticise lets hear your own view, i might be wrong, it will be nice to know what you all think,
by the way i happen to be a b.sc biochem graduate from oou, dont say i am bias, lets hear what you think
candid opinion only
An university graduate? I'm seriously ashamed of u & ur grammar, I weep for ur guardian or who ever fend for u @ the university. Ur grammar is not better than that of a meat & pepper hawker.
EducationRe: Nigerians Scammed By Asians In Ukraine. by donciccio: 1:01am On Sep 10, 2009
Guys/consultants i need ur directive and advice. I wish to apply for a masters course in oil and gas in a university in ukraine. Tho i've HND (upper credit) Chemical Engr'ng. and presently running a masters prgm in project mgt in a nigerian university hoping to round up by April 2010.
With my HND can i be considered for Ukrainian MSc pgm in oil and gas? Also, what is required of me?
Foreign AffairsRe: Nigerian-Yoruba Criminal Gangs In America Busted Yet Again by donciccio: 11:58pm On Sep 09, 2009
Crimes happen evry day and evry where. Nigerians are not the best and they are not the worst we just don't have to blow up issues like this ourselves cos it'll do us more harm by tarnishing our reputations.
Uphold the faith we're REBRANDING Nigeria.
RomanceRe: How To Make A Man Fall In Love by donciccio: 10:39pm On Sep 09, 2009
@sweetmum why announce it when i'm already in LOVE.
EducationRe: Universities Shut Till January 2010 by donciccio: 9:07pm On Sep 09, 2009
@Seeker, 9ce msg from ya. I concur with u. For our undergradu8 students i feel 4 y'all tho i'm not exempted cos i'm also a student of Pg.
Lets pray God help us out,
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Chelsea Banned From Buying New Players Till January 2011 by donciccio: 7:51am On Sep 04, 2009
To all u haters, the ban says two transfer windows which is not up to 2yrs. News, from Aljazeera.
Anyway within the ban period we ain't gonna need any player support.
PENSIONEERS, are still floating, BLUES, are still glowing.
For Mikels case, he  wud have been a CALAMITY if he has chosen manu "oil" not under d@ effing faggy "racist"

We knw they're always against d BLUES but they ma neva get us.
BLUES shall walk and neva stumble,
BLUES shall con2nu to confuse them bada bada,
Any attempt attempted on the BLUES shall be like that on a naked wire,

ALL HAIL BLUES,
NYSCRe: A Married Woman Is Dying 2 Date Me At Nysc Camp! by donciccio: 10:53pm On Aug 24, 2009
mobuch:
kunmibola,

ol boy, why you dey slack now?

why u dey fall my hand now?

you no dey represent well o.

Abeg make you chop the woman clean mouth,

Abi you be firewood?

you no one taste another soup?
@mobuch i belive u die.
@kunmibola u dey eff up.
wire d bitch front & back all join the parade.
corpers WEE, WAA, oooo!!!
AutosRe: Kawasaki Power Bike For Sale For The Pb Lovers by donciccio: 11:58am On Aug 21, 2009
dis bikey i like am die but i fit wear agbada ride am, ?
EducationRe: UNIJOS To Resume Amid ASUU Strike. by donciccio: 10:42pm On Aug 20, 2009
skis_don:
wat do you think our universities are going to look like when ASUU's demand is kept aside and univerities start running that means there is no other body that can advocate for the right of students, and you know what that means our universities are going to turn into glorified primary schools,have you been to universities outside nigeria,i have been to universities in ghana and malaysia the difference is clear what we have hear are no university education. the ASUU may not be right,but at the same time is the govt right,the govt has the capacity to pay 1000% but there are offering 40% and now ASUU has said no,there are indirectly telling nigerian students to go to hell,the future of the nations to go to hell,the power house of the nation to go to hell,the reservior of human resources to goto hell,the truth is there dont care they want us to patronise their private universities that are increasing school fees every year,this is all round extortion,there are waiting for their children to graduate from europe and america to come and run the country as if it is their personal property,in anticipation that we did not get quality education.
Very correct ski_don. this govt fools wants to paralyse the system so that by the time their folks gradu8 abroad they can com and take over positions w/out tough challenge. its really a pity situation.
PoliticsRe: Akingbola Defies Efcc; How He Escaped To London by donciccio: 9:37pm On Aug 20, 2009
I told my broz pal sumx past dat this Akingbola is 1 of dem top thief. He said NO! the man is sincere he's a redeemer. I said 4get i don't trust him /dem and broz pal said if i can't trust him i can't trust myself,
B4 soap form lather, Lather form bubble and now bubble don burst,
TravelRe: 80% Of Visa Documents Are Fake - Ambassador by donciccio: 6:18am On Aug 18, 2009
Kunle-A:
Which is true. White ppl have their own sh*t!. But how many of them do you see thronging to Nigeria Embassy to go to Nigeria by all means necessary? More often than not, when our ppl get overseas, some are not good ambassador of the country. What do you want oyibo to do. Rather than take advantage of opportunity, we abuse it. When there are too many false documents, then its only right for them to deny good documents cos the % of fakes are more than real hence the system is overtaken by suspicion.

The only difference with their system is that the % of fakes are minimal compared to the real ones. Their system can still survive. Its still their country and they can do whatever they want. Issue visa or deny it, they have the right!
Are the embassies worried, Y? When they are supposed to go thru applications and verify they were concerned abt application fee to chop, them don chop and 9jas don take off na 1 - 1. shikina!!!
9jas wey they abroad sidon tight wherevea u dey any oyibo wey do anyhow show am anyhow,
fake ko fake ni!!!
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Police Told To Help Recover Bad Bank Loans by donciccio: 5:38am On Aug 18, 2009
[color=#000099][/color] [b][/b]When the wise speak the fool tend to listen as the words enter thru 1 ear and escapes thru the other ear. Mrs Clinton lashes them some strokes they have tend 2 be on their toes, just watch it's only 4 a while and the acting will just vapourize.
Debt recovery indeed!!!
QUESTION: All the debt OBJ recovered 4rm SANI where is it?
AutosRe: Does Any Car Dealer Offer Intallmental Payments For A Car? by donciccio: 4:46am On Aug 13, 2009
@middleman, I'm also interested but in need of Volvo S80. tho will call also.
AutosRe: Nice And Cheap Toyota Avalon by donciccio: 5:55pm On Aug 10, 2009
@Niyi, i'll offer 500k. i've called u nd u didn't pick. u can call me on 014619513
AutosRe: SOLD! SOLD!! SOLD!!! 9JA used Honda Accord VTec. GREAT DEAL! by donciccio: 7:39pm On Aug 05, 2009
show more interior pix. Also, what's the milage and will 650K fly dat gal?
PoliticsRe: FG Reverses On Warri PTI Upgrade by donciccio: 1:30am On Jul 24, 2009
2 days ago ad was flying on the dailies for positions in the university of petroleum resources just yes'day it was rebaptised & degraded. So wat's going to happen thereafter to the ads&positions, ?
The greatest attrocity of all time is imposing the so called "m*m*oru yar'dull" on us. OBJ u're "ekwensu"!!!
Does this movin cadavre thinks dat evrybody is dull dat lukumon after decades spent with opec comes back to be min of petroleum? y not give fresh brains chance.
This time i hope militants will not shooting radioactives,
Jobs/VacanciesRe: Huawei Is Harrassing Staff To Sign Oath! by donciccio: 1:08am On Jul 21, 2009
@unclebros ur post is not explicit & coincise. Y re they asking 9jas 2 sign an oath? moreover, 9jas in the coy should com2geda & frustrate this effort if not 4 good. U guys can also reach the presido of NLC 4 help.
PhonesRe: Sony Ericsson Users, Let Share Opinnios by donciccio: 11:29pm On Jul 20, 2009
@same on phone mode the laptop does not read ur phone/card but on transfer mode it reads every on ur cards thats correct, i use P1i also.
guys i'm gettin bored wit my P1i thinkin of buyin anoda phone wat do ya think abt samsung omnia and BB storm? i'm considerin 1 of these phones, advice me.
AutosRe: Full Options Honda Halla Ex For Sale - Nigerian Used by donciccio: 7:51pm On Jul 16, 2009
viper abi na wiper dis ur moto u go take am go do kabu kabu very soon,
may be to dey carry yam 4 ondo.
y u no fit slash am down for your NL's? by d way d owner 1 sell am 4 250K,
AutosRe: 6 Months Used Ford Windstar SLE @ 1.1Million by donciccio: 6:15pm On Jul 16, 2009
bros i'll offer 600k. if interested call me on 014619513 from 5pm - 7am wk days
PoliticsRe: Delta Students Condemn Fg’s Planned N15bn Pti For Kaduna by donciccio: 5:40pm On Jul 16, 2009
oil money spent in kd? d skoolz in 9ja-delta how much has been spent there? check out NDU!
Dis malu & zuos keep upsetting us. Dis is calling 4 2nd missionary journey 4 militants,
TV/MoviesRe: What Movie Do You Never Get Tired Of Watching by donciccio: 6:01pm On Jun 25, 2009
god father, hoodlum & blood in blood out
Fashion/Clothing MarketRe: Nigeria's Best Fashion Designers & Tailors by donciccio: 11:47pm On Apr 29, 2009
ajiri avae na name of fried fish?
I knw of teni's cut @ 1 kiosk in oshodi. Also Baba @ 1 cubicle @ cms.
Deola Sagoe i dwey trip 4 her stuffs men, chck her out @ Ajose Adeogun adjacent 2 PHB

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: UCL Semi-final: Man United(1) Vs Arsenal(0) On Wednesday 29th April by donciccio: 11:18pm On Apr 29, 2009
[color=#990000][/color] Its un4tuna8, does wenger think its under 17 games?we're separating d' bois 4rm d men. Afta all their fans blah X2, Assna wandered like d lost ship.

AutosCar Loan by donciccio(op): 8:05am On Apr 28, 2009
Nairalanders, is there any organisation (banks / leasing coys) still offering car loan or lease presently? Pls i'm interested. Kindly send me updates and requirements here or to my email: dearestchika@yahoo.com
If u know any NL's do post it here and their contact.
Music/RadioRe: Lagbaja Back With New Album by donciccio: 7:59am On Apr 17, 2009
Moonstone:
Toyin, who is that? shocked shocked shocked shocked
Fine boy, i agree. It can't be Lagbaja.
All dis babes sef una like 2 live in fantasy, u c fake pix of invisible lagbaja u'd prefer 2 date him. Y not me u're seeing in real.
Gal dat bobo on dat pix is R.I.P!!!

TravelRe: I Think The Most Beautiful Places In Africa Are: by donciccio: 2:01am On Apr 07, 2009
Siena:
Why are people mentioning Paris, The netherlands?

I thought this thread was about Africa, not Europe?
undecided
@siena I think those guys went to a nite school with lamp. how u expect them to understand the language of NL.
kofi nti:
and which part of Ghana do you know.You can laugh about your dirty town called Lagos.think,it is only Abuja which canc compete with accra in terms of roads and nice buildings.
@ koffi nti, that ur 1st pix is a road to a zoo and that painted with yellow H2O color is an entrance to a museum.
show us another more of ur pix,

Science/TechnologyRe: I Need A Toshiba Satellite Laptop by donciccio: 9:37pm On Apr 01, 2009
pls i need help! all the pc gurus help me. my new Toshiba satellite webcam does not c pix. it does lite when i put it on but the screen remans black

PhonesRe: What Brand And Model Is Your Mobile? by donciccio: 9:25pm On Apr 01, 2009
@hlyswt
that pix is the babe for sale or is it u? u fine o, lets hook up na,

RomanceRe: Pop-corn Begging Ladies At The Silverbird Cinemas by donciccio: 8:44pm On Apr 01, 2009
bros nxt time u go there try arranging 2 pack, 1 with popcorn and the other with raw corn, if they request again dash them the raw corn pack and fade,

RomanceRe: Torn Between A Major Decision by donciccio: 6:36pm On Mar 20, 2009
@ poster i think u and the 1st gal are just fooling each self, If for 2yrs the gal u claim to love, u could not make out time to go and c her and she too could not make out time to come and c u (No matter the kind of job / involvement). This is just a tom & jerry play. NB: "if mohammed does not go to mountain, mountain will come to mohammed". marriage is more than 24hrs talk on fone.
For the 2nd gal, i dislike gals who are too policing and over jealous. So if u feel u can cope wit her then marry her but if u can't then burst it.

BusinessRe: Intercontinental Bank Has Become Useless by donciccio: 8:55am On Mar 20, 2009
@ poster of this thread u must have been inspired by my spirit of discern. Intercontinental? I deserted for a long time even though I have stocks with them which i have been begging friends to come and take @ a give away price. I opened the account when i was working in warri some yrs back. could u imagine at evry wwithdrawal then made on their ATM they charge #65 plus monthly charge on the acct (savings). U c when a bank is getting frustrated they begin to bcome a liability to acct holders. collecting different charges, The case of standart trust bank then, on my student savings acct they were charging me as if i was a biz man. at a time they retrenched most of their graduates (BSc/HND) and begin to mass recruit OND holders for peanuts. imagine that!!! For zenith, if care is not taken i envisage their own calamity. Imagine their initiated move into purchase of stocks for short term yield, i think they are all caught up by "BUBBLE BURST". I wonder y most of my guys on MPNU projects have withdrawn their accts from zenith to other banks. They claimed zenith isn't giving them facilities rather they refer them to microfinance banks. So, i asked if this big boys collect facilities from microfinance banks. what will be the fate of the poor / vulnerable households?
To Intercontinenetal again i got the sms of 10K balance from them but wasn't moved cos i'd already abandoned my acct. few days later i got another that it has been reversed to 1k, it didn't move me still. I'd advise our banks look for credible biz to invest other than exploit their individual acct holders.

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