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Havesense:
We have to continue our struggles for this freedom because if we don’t do that now, it might never happen again.. because if we listen to them now and go back, more strict measures and law will be put to force e.g hate speech bill, not having the right to protests e.t.c...Everyone has woken up but some people are still scared of death.. we’re all gonna die.. it’s just the ways that are different.. ok you that did not go to protest today for your basic rights for example, what assurance do you have that you will wake up tomorrow... And it’s not everyone that’s on the protest ground that’s killed.. I’m currently still at Lekki Toll Gate since the day 1 of this protest and I haven’t die... So let’s wake up and fight for our freedom once and for all

You keep saying fighting for freedom, but how exactly is vandalism, murders and wanton destruction of properties both private and public owned, "fight for freedom".
People have this fear that if the protests end now, we will go back to being silent but I seriously doubt that.
I think that these events in the country of the last few days has created a sense of awakening for the citizens of this country.

I think that a break for restrategy is required at this point. Every protests has an objective request. The protests in its current form lacks this. No one even knows exactly what we're protesting for again. The message has been drowned out by the violence and vandalism.

I do think we need to calm down now, restrategize, get a set of clear objectives and begin again. With the way it's going currently, more unnecessary lives are bound to be lost.

thorrvik55:
Only someone with psychopathic tendencies like u would be videoing ppl as they struggle for their life..

The f00l literally said "not just pictures", he wants videos of how they were killed.
Mentally deranged psychopath.. Ur ilks should be locked up in a mental institution

You are mentally retarded_.
Because i don't understand how you will have seen the evidence of exactly what i was talking about and still type this rubbish.
It is very possible that pictures of violence totally unconnected to the current issue will be concocted to appear as though it is connected to the current chaos in order to evoke anger and resentment hence my insistence on further proof of issues surrounding it not just the pictures which can be misleading.
I certainly hope your brain is good enough to comprehend my post you fool.

thorrvik55:
Skepticism?


Does the bolded seem like skepticism to u? He wasn't being skeptical, far from it. He stated it as fact.

I'm not surprised though, birds of a feather flock together.

Clearly you are mentally retarded if your response is how your brain could interpret the post you highlighted. fuck_off with your single digit IQ.

airmark:
I hope you know their is a difference between one and many/singular and plural.

Sodik went personal with me and i returned it to him. Post those oppressed victims i mocked that were not related to Sodik, you bastard.

Only in your moronic brain will sodick and his innocent brother be one and the same.

Cower in shame, you bloody hypocrite. You have indeed shown yourself to be melancholic in nature. You are the one here who has severally rejoiced at other people's misfortune.
My own is, stop pretending to be outraged by the violence when you have savoured it in the past. Very stupid air-headed slowpoke.

airmark:
If you don't show where the said person mocked oppressed victims, all the 201 gods in ile ife must curse you bastard.

Receipts abound, you brainless moron_.

airmark:
The idiotic Sodick, was treated like a charlatan by those boys.

They should have pulled the trigger on the mofo and his brother.

airmark:
See this Sodiki that Sars should have fed to their dogs.

EarlRagnar2:
You mocked those that died yesterday

If you don't want thunder to wipe you and your generation out from this earth, Show me where i did this.

izzou:
[color=royalblue] Bringing Don j's tragedy into this is so low abeg

I understand everyone is emotional, and his comment sounds insensitive, but abeg.....

Ahn Ahn[/color]

Ibime:
It is uncalled for.
People are taking out their anger at those killers on normal citizens on this thread. Boys eye dey red.

Leave the idiots to continue to misunderstand me and let rancid emotions rule them.

I have objectively stated that I unilaterally condemn violence and murder. I am only adding that people try to be sure of what they believe but leave it to ill-tempered folks to be unreasonable.

The worst is that very foolish airhead who not so long ago was relentlessly mocking the oppressed victims here, now he's suddenly found his outrage. Hypocrites all abound.

nitrogen:
Hmmmmmm

Ohhhooo.
I saw this in the early afternoon but did not want to post it here.

I'm telling people to calm down and sieve the information they get and the airheaded bastard is abusing his father.

People need to try to scrutinize every information they get before they absorb them, that's my simple message.

EarlRagnar2:
Unfortunate person tell us about him aunty and pikin people no ask for evidence dem sympathise with you.... Just woke up and I'm still pissed like how can someone be so heartless and wicked.

You're a shameless obtuse bastard.
Well guess what, when I shared the news of my tragedy, I did not share the news here to incite violence and outrage. Or to play with people's emotions, I did not expect any action whatsoever to be taken concerning the tragedy. It was devoid of intent and I even later decided to wipe it all off.

We are in an era where information is weaponized and misinformation is amplified rapidly with the rise of social media.
All the news we are seeing is eliciting intense emotions of anger, confusion, fear and violence.
It takes a sensible voice to try to appeal for people to carefully scrutinize all the conflating information they are receiving. Propaganda is currently in full swing.
You are free to disagree with me but you certainly don't need to mock my tragedy.

airmark:
Useless being, i only mocked Sodik for allowing himself to be bullied cheaply into paying hugely for his freedom that day.

Just look at this stupid moron_, still parading this very foolish narrative. How much of an imbecile_ can you be??

At least now everyone can see your hypocrisy and your fake outrage. You kept insulting him for bailing his way out and coming out alive despite knowing that some of them were cold blooded murderers.
For years you were insulting him and his brother for surviving. Now you are coming here to fake outrage.
You are a brainless moron_ who is air-headed.

izzou:
[color=royalblue] Everybody is obviously against you

I just felt it was easier for me to beg you to stop, than beg them

I didn't have anything in mind. No vex[/color]

no wahala my man. it's just a bit frustrating seeing us all confused and apprehensive.
Suddenly everyone has theory as to who is behind what. Numerous conspiracy theories being bandied about. Everyone trying to make sense of the chaos.

I think it's okay to call for people to evaluate the information they receive seeing as there is a lot of confusion and misinformation out there in their dozens.

izzou:
[color=royalblue] Nwanne, make this matter rest

Please[/color]

HERE WE GO AGAIN.
You did not quote the people who started to abuse their father, it is when i am dishing it back to them, you are now cautioning me. Bro, fear God.

airmark:
Don't mind the idiot.

As if people asked for hardcore evidence of his family members that he claimed died last time, before believing him.

You are a very stupid fool. Oh, suddenly you've become strange bedfellow with sodick after your same stupid self relentlessly mocked the oppression he faced in the hands of rogue officers.
Nobody is buying your fake outrage here after you have spent years denigrating the victims of oppression here. You are an e-mbecile.
That you are the biggest idiot here is not news to anyone.

SyIvalord:
So apparently the army is going to hospitals to kill survivors of the massacre and taking their bodies away. Is there anyone that still doubts that this is a premeditated massacre?

This is part of the problem I'm talking about.
please stop dropping blanket statements and unverified news like this to stir up sensationalism. Drop a reliable source to this information so that people would be justifiably infuriated for a just cause, not hearsays. Let's combat the spread of misinformation please.

iamoyindamola:
The kind of lowlifes thugs that was brought on to disrupt the protest are the ones you will see stealing

This is my problem with you yet you will go on senselessly abusing with your rotten mouth.

Can you say with certainty that the mobs who are now vandalizing properties are paid actors??
Can you state boldly that there are no protesters who have decided to take it up a notch and misdirect their anger and frustrations??

A lot of reasonable people are now cautioning that the protests has lost their aim and direction. It is now being misdirected into several meaningless avenues that is only leading to chaos, vandalism, destruction and ruin.
You're eager to defend what you have absolutely no idea about. That's gullibility and folly.

All of you mentioning me to chat rubbish and throw bile are very stupid.

I am not denying the killing of citizens. I am saying we should vet the news we receive carefully before accepting them and becoming sensational.

I have also fallen victim to it here on this very thread hence my apprehension.

Was it not on this very thread yesterday that blueraydick shared false information about the violence before he was corrected?
There is no harm in being conscious in absorbing information out there because the internet is a treasure trove of misinformation.
Right now we don't know if it was even the army or the navy that caused the chaos yesterday.
It's okay to be outraged at an injustice but we simply have to be absolutely sure of it. Surely that's common sense advice.
I really don't know why anyone would start laying abuses, going personal and invoking my dead relatives. It's simply not okay. At this point, a lot of different things are happening in the country and no one can claim to be absolutely sure of understanding or making sense of it all or the various actors. How do we sieve out the misinformation from the facts?

Let's be guided in our outrage, please.

Jodera:
Are you serious right now?? Geez!!!

So with all the outrage and deaths shown everywhere, you still feel(even at the heat of the moment) is propaganda?
Like are you fvcking kidding me??


Mehn!!!

Again, where is the video of such happening?? Not just pictures of the supposed deceased without accurate confirmation??

I concede that perhaps my skepticm is ill-timed in the face of such raw emotions but nothing is wrong in advocating for accurate reports and not believing fake news.

For all those replying me with emotional diatribes, I am not saying that people weren't killed neither am i justifying the murder of anyone.
I'm simply saying that there hasn't actually been sufficient evidence to show that people were killed last night at toll gate. We are in an era of misinformation, where fake news and propaganda holds sway.
It's okay to be a bit skeptical till you see hard proof and evidence of said events and not just anectodes.

Nobody here too has provided solid evidence to counteract my point, just emotional diatribes. I definitely condemn any act of violence but i advice everyone to let the head rule and not the heart.

johnstar:
U are a big fool

Smh

I can understand that you feel outraged based on what you think you know but ask yourself, are you really sure you know what happened??
These pictures you are posting and sharing, how sure are you that those are victims or that they died last night?
There is nothing wrong in being skeptical and objective and not letting your emotions rule you.

I choose to only believe these with hard facts not anectodal evidence.

obainojazz:
Hope you saw reports of soldiers carrying the dead bodies in their vans

That's the problem. Reports. Did you actually see this?? I feel some people are taking advantage of people's raw emotions right now. All "evidence" right now is anecdotal.

iamJ:
if I talk they will say I talked

I haven't seen a single video showing dead people, I have searched everywhere, the only thing I kept seeing are soliders shooting into the air to chase people away, maybe stray bullets landed on some people but 1 dead person, I haven't seen, some people are just taking advantage of the chaos to steal and loot.

I thought i was the only one who was thinking this way. I've been seeing the pure outrage of everyone over soldiers killing people, but so far it's all been anecdotes. No hardcore evidence. Just randomly spread pictures which is how propaganda is run.

The video i have been seeing so far shows soldiers shooting into the sky to disperse the crowds.
Anyway, if indeed, soldiers have killed innocent protesters, surely they need to be brought to book.
Buhari at this point needs to address the nation ASAP to assuage the masses outrage.

Lampard is fast losing his appeal with the Chelsea fan base because of this his blatant favoritism.

Is mount really a golden goose who you build your entire team around??
What does he see in Mount that we aren't seeing?

The boy obviously has good potential but that's just it for now, POTENTIAL.
Lampard really has to read the handwriting on the wall and see that Chelsea fans are getting frustrated seeing mount displacing players from their natural positions and playing mount out of position hence diminishing his output.
Hmm, mount better performs oo.

izzou:
[color=royalblue] Brotherly, I just no understand

I could remember in the past, the Presidency usually holds this press briefings abi na conference on NTA from time to time. I have never seen Buhari on any since 2015

I am not even mad that he's the President. But how people wey go school, go dey defend this man as the best thing after orgasm baffles me

It's really shocking[/color]

Everything we want to blame the federal government for.
Do you know the name of your local government chairman?? Or the name of the representative of your constituency or the your councillor?
Do you even know the government officials much closer to you?
Do you know how much was released to your local government or your constituency and the level of execution?

It's not everything you blame the federal government for. Interact more with your local government executives much closer to you first and not just the federal executives.

nihilistjnr:
What's necessary about killing animals for food?

Meat diet is not even good for the body, and meat production is terrible on the environment.

We don't need meat to survive. We don't need to eat it.
So why is it necessary to kill animals?

But we don't just kill animals for meat, do we??
We used some of their body parts in advanced pharmacy and medical practices.
we use them to also better understand our body and the natural interactions of our biochemistry.
We use their skins for essential products.
The trade of these animals for other purposes are very vital to man's economic development and by extension, survival.

As I said earlier, we are evolving in our thoughts and beginning to recognize animal rights which results have brought about in conservation efforts, better regulations in killing of animals.
By genetically modifying animals, we're essentially creating our own animal's. We basically created non reproductive breeds of some animals like broilers and layers to artificially sustain our meat and egg cravings. All these are parts of efforts to control how we kill animals because we realize it is bad doing so unnecessarily.

Although, all these have no correlation with the question of the illegalization of homosexuality.

swiz123:
Like I told the guy above, the law decides what constitutes cruelty against animals.

For example, slicing the throat of a ram is not unlawful but pushing your luck by stabbing the ram multiple times in a bid to kill it might be considered cruel, and as such an offence.

Listen, it's inherently disingenuous to equate homosexuality with bestiality. This is false equivalence and whataboutism at it's finest.

Why would people immediately start talking about bestiality when people talk about homosexuality??

Secondly, on the issue of bestiality, it is wrong because of the issue of consent. having sex with an animal is essentially raping that animal.
We as a society are now evolving in our thoughts and becoming more conscious of animal rights. Yes, killing an animal is now being seeing as bad. Milking an animal is now being seen as bad.
But prominent thinkers classify it as necessary wrong, seeing as these are essential to our survival. The mechanics of the ecosystem is geared towards a pyramid with us at its peak and the same animals also eventually gaining from us.
Anyways, I digress.
Homosexuality has no correlation to bestiality. These are two entirely different phenomenas.
False equivalence and whataboutism are not needed. A human being has a very high distinction physically, morphologically, mentally, emotionally and intellectually from other animals. Comparing both is wrong.

Godx:
What the hell is live and let live? What a stupid thing to say. Any argument you bring up to support Homosexuality, I will use it the same way to support incest, bestiality and zoophilia. After all live and let live.

This is false equivalence. Homosexuality is not the same as zoophilia or bestiality. Although it can be incest. I'm sure you well know the question of consent is vital.

Moreso, homosexuality is not limited to only the act of sex. It is a broad spectrum that encompasses how one person feels towards another, not just which hole one wants to stick his deek into. Go and learn and stop being ignorant.

Godx:
You asked what crime they committed and I told you already, all these your Shalayes are not for me. Criminalization of Homosexuality does not infringe on any human right.

Now, this is hardcore bullsh*t.
First of all, what do you understand is homosexuality and why should homosexuals be imprisoned or legally killed?

raumdeuter:
Another thing I have to work with you on is your temper. Replying harshly will only get negative response. People will always oppose you but you have to be calm and not reply harshly else what you are trying to communicate

Let me handle this

You know, funny enough, I'm the one who should be pointing out that you've evolved and matured further in your thinking.
After all, you're the one who is now ashamed of having supported a moron_ like trump in the first place.

Also, isn't it funny that you are now the champion of gay rights after having mocked me for making pro gay statements previously?

Godx:
*Criminal law* Read up on it, understand it before replying. . I don't have time for ignorant argument this period

This is a weak line. I know it's currently a crime in Nigeria.
I am asking, is it right for it to be a crime??
What is the crime homosexuals commit??

Shouldn't a law that infringes on the fundamental basic human right of an individual to freely associate with another be repudiated and excoriated?

OJURONGBE1:
You people have ways of twisting a life long tradition to fit your narratives.
This is why many contemporary marriages are having issues and divorce is the new order.
Even the bible stated it clearly in 1Cor 11:3 & 1Peter 3:7 that husband is the head of the house and that, do not in anyway relegate any woman in the house.
I stayed with my Aunt's family (young couple, in their 4th year of marriage with a child) after school, waiting for youth service in 2015 and i could tell you that this woman is submissive, loving and respectful towards her husband despite her demanding Nursing job.
Her spouse played his part well by providing, praying, loving and helping out whenever his wife is busy .The marriage celebrated 9years on Saturday and it is waxing stronger by God's grace.

Here we go again, justifying your perspective from the shallow lens of your religion.
Well, guess what, there are billions of other people in the world who don't subscribe to your idea of what an ideal marriage should be and the role of each gender in the marriage.

In many parts of Tibet, Nepal, India and China. The ideal for a marriage is for one woman to marry two or more men and be their property. Polyandry is their recognized tradition.
I'm sure you're against having more than one man and woman in a marriage. Well, absolute shocker, many tribes and religions subscribe to the idea of numerous people in a marriage.

In some native tribes in Mexico, their society is matriarchal, not patriarchal and by definition believe that females have a much stronger role to play in society than the men. The women are regarded more highly than the men there.
Broaden your horizon and stop seeing things from the limited perspective of your surrounding society. Marriage practices are fluid and should not be static.

Godx:
You still haven't come up with any tangible reasons why criminalization of Homosexuality is human rights abuse.

First of all, what crimes have homosexuals commited?

raumdeuter:
Donjazet without being patronizing, I think your thinking and outlook to life has changed in the last 6 months or let me say you are articulating things better and in a more balanced way

All your posts on this thread today I fully support. It shows why one must not give up on people

You no well ooo.
I am very consistent in my arguments, I don't flip flop on issues. If you think i do, post evidence. You clearly didn't understand my stance on issues before now. I say it as it is.