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morpheus24:
Let me demonstrate your logic here. Th word "CHi" in an Nigerian Language (igbo) means spirit or that force that drives you from within. The same word "chi" in Chinese means the exact same thing. Both cultures use this word to form names in their distinct langauges. I could as well draw a correlation and claim that ancient Chinese ancestors are of Igbo extract as their language retained this particular word that transcended time.

Look my friend, you're making a mistake if you think I am just some regular Biafran or Hebrew Israelite somewhere. You should be grateful for the things I'm sharing with you ...this is no joke.

Language began in Africa. Even the so-called land of Israel is actually in Africa. It was all one continent before the artificial Suez canal was built. Those who built the tower of Babel were dark skinned. Latin, Spanish, English etc all have their origins in the Bantu languages...not the other way around. Hong Kong has its root in KONGO. King Kong was used to mock KONGO who is known as the Arch angel or MESSIAH by the Bantus. Zombie was used to mock the name of the Most High creator, NZAMBI. Many English words were derived from the Bantu language. Slaves in America even named places in the U.S. Names of food, clothing, musical instruments etc.

Blacks from Africa civilized Europe, taught them to read and write, how to dress and even the concept of bathing. So don't play with this man here ...I know my history.

I am not seeking any NONSENSE association with white people posing as Jews like your Igbo brothers. Who are the people in the so-called levant that you regard as the standard or pure Hebrew blood to which every Jew's DNA must be compared? Cant you see the foolishness in that?

These people whose blood you believe should be the standard are actually Europeans from Germany, Russia, Ukraine and Polland and they have similar DNA haplogroup as other Europeans. They were put there by the league of nations in 1948 and schools were built to teach them Judaism (which is just another Babylonian religion like Christianity) and the language they call Hebrew but which is actually YIDDISH.

Even the DNA science we refer to is just a pointer. It should not be regarded as absolute truth. Results can easily be manipulated. These so-called "Jews" are very intelligent and will not allow their position to be threatened by anyone talkless of Igbos. They control the major DNA / ancestry companies. They figured that if they agree Igbos were Jews they'd also have to accept the many other Israelites in sub-saharan Africa bacause they share similar DNA.

Or didn't you notice that it's mostly people with gold and diamonds buried beneath them like the Lemba that they are happy to bring along claiming similar DNA? Maybe if Igbos had sufficient oil or diamonds, they would stand a better chance at being Jews. Mtchew.

Even the Ethiopians who were taken there are suffering severe persecution from these children of Satan because of their color.

morpheus24:
Many Hausa-Fulani people carry the r1b male haplogroup mutation which is predominant in European males. Does this mean that all Hausa men are dscendend from European males. No my friend.

The Fulanis, like other North Africans have some European genes in them due to mixing of the Turks (so-called white Arabs), Romans etc. with their ancestors. Our ancestors hardly mixed with other nations. It's against the TORAH. So you've said nothing new.

morpheus24:
https://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/news/lemba-tribe-in-southern-africa-has-jewish-roots-genetic-tests-reveal

This is my problem with you people... You quote 20th and 21st century sources from fake Jews against someone using sources dating as far back as 16th century. And you want me to take you seriously? Don't you know this world has changed? Truth is hidden and lies are made readily available. These devils you call Jews control the internet, media, governments, Hollywood, the curriculum of schools and even seminaries. Some of my sources are from books that cost thousands of dollars. Why do they make them so expensive?

morpheus24:
PS I don't care what the so called modern Jews of today speak. What is left of the hebrew language is contained in the Torah and talmud.

The Most High gave us His TORAH which is actually a Bantu word meaning SPEECH or counsel. Those white Jews, which you and your Igbo brothers love, invented and follow the Talmud with it's Babylonian (pagan) customs and traditions. That's why they call themselves JEW-ISH. What does "ish" mean? All they have is a religion they created using our ancient Hebrew customs and traditions mixed with paganism. Many of those Hebrew customs we still practice today unknowingly.

So if you're looking for who to drag, pursue your Igbo brothers who are seeking validation from white man. As for me, you nor reach, and I have met many of your type. Nonsense

Discover 40+ Bantu names in the Bible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_EjmnN0GSs

morpheus24:
You call these back migrationists "bantu" and then Israelite at the same time yet Bantu is a made up word derived from a common prefix for the word "people" in several central-east-Southern indigenous languages within Africa.

Which is it?

So these wandering "Bantu's" were previous called israelites with their own spoken language which is pretty much a phonecian language variant but lost both the linguistic and genetic trace that follow them back to their original habitat in the levant when they arrived in west central Africa.

Look my friend this theory you are spewing is not new many hebrew israelite groups have been spewing this nonense since the 60's.

Again blood cannot lie.

Ba-ntu is Bantu language and correctly rendered Aba-ntu meaning "The people of the house".
In Bantu you use Aba as a prefix to describe or qualify a group of people.
Ntu- like Bantus will say Mu-ntu in referring to a brother from your house, family, tribe or race.

You could say Aba-kal when referring to a group of women in the third-person. Aba is that prefix referring to a group (not singular) and Nenkal means women.

Aba-yudaya means: the people of Yuda/Judah (they are a tribe in Uganda that have a history and tradition of their decent from the kingdom of YAHUNDE/ JUDAH in Israel).

Even the word ISRAEL is a European corruption of the Bantu word YISOLELE (ISOLELE) which means SEPERATED and from where the English word ISOLATE was derived.

So the word Aba-ntu was used in the third-person in describing these people who migrated through the continent. We don't need Europeans or those who have been bewitched by them to teach us our language or who we are.

And what those fake Jews speak is YIDDISH. That is not the ancient Hebrew of the scriptures. Ancient Hebrew is in the Bantu languages. Our Bantu names are in the bible. We even have the ancient Hebrew names for God in Bantu languages. Humble yourself and learn my friend... You have been fooled

morpheus24:
Here comes crazy number 2 with your own warped history.

The desertification of Africa's Sahara pressured movements in Africa of the original humans that lived within that region These groups would have migrated north-east toward the nile and West central as well.

The tribes/ethnic groups tha inhabit what is known as Nigeria today did not inhabit that area one million years ago. There were not enough people in Africa that long ago to do so.

Several waves of humans with tAfrican phenotypes left the continent postulated at about 300,000 to 200,000 years ago. These humans became non African as their DNA mutated and re-wrote different signatures in their bodies causing genetic and phenotypical changes causing them to become other so called "RACES".

Africans within the continent also experienced the same mutations as their counterparts outside of the continent causing changes to their genetic and phenotype which is why you also find Africans with the most vast genetic differences than any other group of people outside of the continent.

Please stop peddlling your own nonsense.

The proof is in your blood.

DNA cannot LIE!

I was agreeing with your writeup until I approached the last few paragraphs, especially the bolded nonsense.

I don't argue that humans first migrated out of Africa. Many have shown maps and scientific evidence to back their claims. Some even argue that human beings have existed on earth for millions of years. I will not argue.

But that doesn't negate the fact that there were later migrations of blacks back into the continent. These latter migrations include the BANTU/West African/Isrealite migration. And there is historical proof of these migrations back into the continent.

morpheus24:
I never mentioned any early migrations out of Africa please.

You said there was an earlier movement of human civilization prior to the bantu expansion within Africa I asked you what and when?




I don't know what you are talking about here. Clarify.




How do you know they were shorter?
What fossil findings corroborates this finding?
What time period was this movement?




Again you day initial migration from Africa. I did not refer to this. You showed a map of migratory patterns staring from what is known as the levant today proceeding to West Africa and then on the ships out of Africa to the AMericas.

When was this movment?
WHo were this people?
What race were they, describe them physically please.
Are they related to Africans.Are they Africans genetically.

As far as the migratory patterns of Bantu, that is correct but that has nothing to do with any point you are making so is irrelevant.



I have also interacted with many bantu groups along the borders with the nilotics, mostly congolese, rwanda's and the likes and they do have somewhat of an aggression between the two, however they are not two seperate races in any sense and only understand that their histories are different.

Again this has nothing to do with your initial point. You are digressing and are all over the place. What has this point got to do with your initial first civilization of movement of people and the map you depicted?



So the BAKONGO are israelites eh that migrated from the Egypt in 500AD. That is fascinating seeing that their DNA is heavily connected to West Africans more so than the East Africans who descend from much older Africans.

point 1.It is quite odd that they originate from this region yet 99% of them share no autosomal Mtdna or Y Dna from any group emanation from the Levant.

Point 2. The So called NIlotic, cushitic and the Aksumites( your modern day Ethiopians ) actually carry a far older YDNA mutation than do the later bantu groups indicating that they have been in that region far longer than Bantu yet Bantu show no carry over DNA of this group of people and instead carry a latter mutation from their West AFrican ancestors.

You my friend are making up hogwash stories.



Hogwash stories.

Cannot be substantiated apart from pointing us to folktale stories by old men.



You are just writing for the sake of writing and don't really have a point.

Igbo's, Ashantis and Ibibios would have the same paternal lineages because they emanate from the same proto-bantu groups that the bantu come from as well.

All Bantu that moved east central south would carry the same YDNA markers which is inherited from the male going all the way to southern Africa. This still remains unchanged which is why you are able to map the migratory movements from the different E1B1A sub clades that exist.

Nilotics or Cushitics have an older YDNA haplogroup E1b1b and A0 which are far more older haplogroups than that of the bantu indicating that they have lived in that part of Africa longer than any bantu and also share autosomal DNA with neighbouring groups around the area including North Africans, people from the levant and West Asia.

You my friend need to re-s tudy

If you do not understand, humbly ask questions and stop pretending to interrogate or challenge the things I'm saying.

I have studied the DNA of the Bantus compared with the NILOTICS/ KUSHITES and they are not the same. And of course the KUSHITE DNA is much older since KUSH was a son to HAM, the brother of SHEM the ancestor of the Israelites. The BANTUS and West Africans only came to occupy the land of KUSH.

Zephaniah 3:10
From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, even the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering.

Bantus and West Africans have more similarity in DNA because they have one father YAKUBI (Jacob). Both have a history of settling in and migrating through Egypt/Nubia.

YES, they are ISRAELITES and from Levant. I see you are already comfortable with the lies of a so-called white middle-east. All of that region with Arabia was populated by coloured people... Don't be fooled.

Read Arthur Koestler's book THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE and come out of your blindness. The so-called white Jews are not decendants of Jacob. The conquering of indigenous populations in that whole region and North Africa by the Khazzars/ Turks of the OTOMAN empire and ROME plus their mixing with indigenous populations including Black Arabs/Moors and Berbers resulted in the whitening out of these populations. And the Bantus don't have to share any genetic similarities with those currently living in the Levant because those who occupy those lands are not the indigenous people. Those white "Jews" are converts to Judaism. WAKE UP.

Amujale:
There are no tribes in Africa, there are ethnicities. The tribes are elsewhere.

Ibo, Hausa and Yoruba are indegenous to the African continent.

Furthermore, the African is first to inhabit and populate all the other continents.

You're only decieving yourself with that false narrative. Africans are one but they are capturing you and enslaving you. They hate you and want to wipe you out. But una eye never clear yet. You're dealing with people who know you and understand history but you prefer to remain dumb and complacent.

Even the DNA is different but you like the false narrative as it keeps you and your fellows happy in your false reality.

Even Yoruba and Hausa traditions state clearly their migration from the collapsing Assyrian empire...

Amujale:
The Christian bible is void of history.

You wont find anyones history in the bible but some derranged writters personal scruples.

As in, scrupulosity.

In short, that book is fake, false and counterintuitive.

The moment you provide such fake literature as a source, the moment the information you present becomes invalid.

The scriptures are not "Christian". And they are a veritable source of history. In short, I have no words for you... Oya face front.

A spy went to church.

morpheus24:
What is the first civilization you are refering to above and what is the second?

Did you not speak of early human migrations out of Africa?

morpheus24:
What time frame are these two migratory events?

It is wrong and misleading to refer to "intitial human migration" and the Bantu migration (often depicted with that map showing movement from Nigeria/Cameroon) as one and the same.

morpheus24:
What different race is this? can you elaborate further on this

They existed thousands of years before the Israelites (Bantus). They were much shorter human beings.

morpheus24:
This particular group you refer to actually fled the "mfecane"_The scattering in Bantu. They made their way upwards into Zambia and Congolese borders with Southern Africa. This has nothing to do with the first initial migratory pattern. DNA supports this.

The Arab slave trade is about 1400 years old which is far less of the time frame that migratory patterns occured in Africa after the Sahara desertification. I don't trust this analysis plus oral tradition is very suspect.

Again, I am not referring to initial human migration from Africa. The Bantus met indigenous populations like the pygmies and Nilotics as they migrated along to Central and southern Africa which they had to subdue or assimilate.

Now, they may speak a Bantu language, doesn't mean they are Bantus, many are Nilotics and the people know the difference. In fact in many cases there is hostility between the races. They hate the Bantus. Most of what I am telling you is firsthand knowledge, not from books. I have interacted with the people and I speak a Bantu language. The real Bantus have a common history of migration, religion, etc. They know themselves and they know the Nilotics among them.

Those Bantus that formed the great kingdom of KONGO with 12 clans/tribes (representing the 12 tribes of Israel) have a clear history of migration from Egypt to Nubia to Sheba/Aksum (300AD). Then leaving Aksum due to pressures put on them by Sunday Christian King Kaleb, these Isrealites (Bantus) migrated to Zimbabwe (500AD). With more migration of Bantu Isrealites to Great Zimbabwe and with rapid urbanization and population growth, the migration continued to the Kalahari desert and then to their present location, having been led by Prophets and seers. These are the truths European books will not carry. And since they will not tell the truth or show in their books where the Bantus actually came from, they purposely confuse early human migration with the Bantu migration.

Who do you think captured the Bantus and sold during the Arab and sub-saharan slave trades? Who entered the forests kidnapping Bantus that were later put on slaveships and taken to the Americas? It is the Arabs (blacks), Berbers, Fulanis.. all of whom were indigenous black Africans! The Bantus even had a name for those who rode on horses and with swords, raiding their communities for slaves- IGENYI. But European books hide these facts which they know, saying Africans sold Africans. Well, in a sense they're correct, because Israelites are Africans. Or because Africa is a continent housing several nations/ races. Africa is not a race.

And speaking of DNA, Cross River is usually a perculiar case for DNA and linguistic studies because of the various streams of migration to the region and from different directions. A DNA study was conducted taking samples from The Igbos, Ashanti of Ghana, and Cross River tribes (Ibibios, Ejagham, Efiks). It revealed that despite the different languages and migratory patterns, they had similar paternal DNA haplogroup (E1B1A). So there was no difference in DNA between the Igbos, the Ashanti and the Cross River ethnic groups (who were part of the Bantu migration).

But you will begin to notice the mixture in DNA haplogroups as you move towards East, Central to Southern Africa. This is due to the mixture of the Nilotics (indigenous Africans) among the Bantu. However the E1B1A paternal DNA haplogroup is still prevalent.

morpheus24:
People did migrate from east to west in a first wave, however these blacks were proto-Bantus as are groups like wolof, mende, etc who are not considered Bantu. The direction of Bantu groups is from west-central to east then to south.

Simple genetic studies destroys confirms this as If you backward engineer genetics you will see that the trail follows this pattern with groups from East Africa more genetically similar to Southern Bantus who also encountered Khoi populations on their journer and assimilated their genes and their language as well.

White man is not the god of knowledge.

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Just to show you i know what you are talking about. But they are mixing two different civilizations and migrations together. Now, I am not referring to the rest of West Africa here.

I have been to the region where the Bantu migration is said to have begun along the Nigeria Cameroon border and this is one of the reasons for their conclusion.

IKOM MONOLITHS
https://originalpeople.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/RAAI_475-1-scaled.jpg
https://www.ngrguardiannews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Emangabe-Monolith-kk-24-5-15-Copy.jpg

These monoliths which date back to thousands of years predate the Bantu migration by several centuries. These stones have writings on them that are similar to Sumerian writing which are much older than Egyptian hieroglyphics. Those who careved these stones were of a different race, much shorter human beings. But they used these monilths to conclude that that's where Bantu migration began. Whereas some Bantus migrated to that region in the 1700s after they were evicted from South Africa during the Boa wars, migrating through Congo and Cameroon.

I have spoken to the elders and stakeholders from this region who have a clear oral history of where the came from and when. I have been there physically and have seen the ancient artifacts and monoliths. Many who live there even regard these stones as sacred, gods and pray to them.

The EKOI (EJAGHAM), IBIBIOS, EFIKS, TIVs etc of Nigeria were part of this Bantu migration. Bantus also migrated fleeing persecution and slavery from Arabs/Islamists.

NOW This is what they hide from you regarding the Bantu migrations either ignorantly or deliberately...

macof:
Lmao. Acted like a thorough rabid dog and made zero sense in the process

Learn to at least tolerate the truth cos it ain't going nowhere. Oloriburuku.

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If nor be panadol, e no fit be like panadol.

...Washing of feet...
Shabbat Shalom fam!

If nor be panadol, e no fit be like panadol.

Original Berber/ Arab

macof:
You deluded semitic wannabes often like to credit "white people" for too much. Any historical information that puts Black Africans as native Africans you declare "lies of the white man"

Look at this is idiot. So you don't know Africa is a continent housing many nations? My being Semetic is a fact and of true history. It's you who is too brianwashed and afraid to even imagine the truth.

macof:
If I say my history as passed orally in my culture, fools like you will still say "so says white man".
History is a science not a game of someome says nor a race war

You lot need psychiatric treatments

Of course idiots like you will believe the tales that your first ancestor fell from heaven and landed in your village. As with Yorubas, same with Igbos etc they all dropped from the sky. Perhaps that's the "science" you were taught. Òde.

Only Hausas seem to have some accurate history because the Arabs gave it to them. Christian missionaries came and destroyed the remaining sense your ancestors had using gin and mirrors.

RedboneSmith:
Bantus are what?

LOL.

We West Africans had already settled the lands we occupy today (much of it anyway) before the Bantus branched off from us to settle the lands they occupy today.

I know the region where whites say the Bantus originated from (between Cross River and Cameroon) very well. That's a lie and meant to mislead. The Bantu migration was actually in the opposite direction, through Nubia/Ethiopia to Central and Southern Africa. There were however much earlier migrations to the region between Nigeria and Cameroon thousands of years before the Bantu migration.

Even those of West Africa also migrated through Egypt/ Nubia but also through the Sudan, Chad etc. Many from Morocco. And others were shipped down to the West African coast from Spain and Portugal.

These are all Ancient biblical ISRAELITES.

Hausas of Kanem and Kebbi are ancient Assyrians. Yorubas and Igbos are ancient Israelites.

cooljude:
Lies! Bantu originated from a region between West Africa and Cameroon.

We are indigenous Africans forget those useless stories that we came from the middle East.

Yes, so says your lord, white man

byinks:
Prophecy fulfilled


https://www.nairaland.com/6036452/al-qaeda-penetrating-north-west-nigeria-us

Seen. Shalom

Righteousness89:
As long as we are still Here on Earth, it Cannot and will not Happen!

But Once the Trumpet Sounds, and We are off! I cannot guarantee anyone on what will be Here on Earth!

You're deceiving yourself because of wrong bible teaching.

FullBlastLight:
They all hv tried!

I really salute their mettle, courage & audacity 2 launch out despite d possibility of arrest!

They're doing what all d youths & young men in Nig shld come out en mass & doggedly perform regardless of anything!

They certainly wil come out of it & every innocent Nig wil outlast dis evil govt!

Everyone is complacent because the Pastors and preachers whom y'all look up to for direction are complacent. The voice of YAH is scarce and it'll be from one slavemaster to the next.

MistadeRegal:
Did GOD order His houses of prayer be shutdown before?

Good question...

Even though I know these men neither represent YAH nor his kingdom.

JAMO84:
I don't get it; Igbo are trying to blackmail APC to give them the presidency, after voting for PDP since 1999! Can you work for UBA and receive salary from Zenith bank?



I AM DONE TALKING

Those I'm APC, aren't they the same people in PDP?

oscarsam:
I try as much as possible to treat whoever comes my way as nicest as i can irrespective of his/her race and religion

Good for you. If you're looking for a nice religion, it's not me you should follow.
I'm naturally a gentle fellow but the truth in my mouth is like a sword.
And also, black folks naturally like to treat people of other races nicely, but they hate themselves. FUNNY, but its true.
Thanks to Religion...especailly Christianity.

oscarsam:
I have gone through many of Donnie's articles, I don't quite believe in some of the doctrines he prescribed.
Donnie himself also certain times, uses abusive words while replying people which shouldn't be found from someone who has been exposed to the truth.

Believe what you want, leave my manner of speech for me. You can follow the Christians, they speak very nicely. And I understand you are also very sympathetic towards dem white devils. It's all good...

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Shalom.

EliteBiz:
I will be honest, I don't know much about Ekanckar but I did a quick research just now, I don't think that's His doctrine, will research more.

Donnie is teaching the ways of our Father(His laws) and also striving to make people flee the Harlot, the mother of all religions because her judgement is near.

Spot on!

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And only those who are chosen will awake.

OLAADEGBU:
Since you hate the nation of physical Israel you will equally hate the spiritual Israel. Whoever is not with Christ is against Him.

You hate the idea of a black MESSIAH or black Israel. It's the reason why after you Christians discover the truth, you open your smelling mouth to say "color doesn't matter". Really? But it did matter when you thought they were white hmm?

"Bless Israel so you can be blessed"... You forget that scripture whenever the thought of their being black arises. Coons.

OLAADEGBU:
Since you hate the nation of physical Israel you will equally hate the spiritual Israel. Whoever is not with Christ is against Him.

That is not ISRAEL, whether physical of spiritual. They don't even call it "nation" but "state of Israel"... a fake one though.

And there is nothing like spiritual Israelite. You dumb Christians only fool yourselves.

They are not Christ they are devils and together make up the Synagogue of Satan. -Rev 2:9

OLAADEGBU:
"O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?" (Galatians 3:1).

You have been bewitched if you think that the 'White man' is your enemy and that the 'Black man' is the true Israel of today.

Our enemies come in white and black. Are you okay now? But ESAU (white man) is number one.

The judgement of Babylon is already written. It will not fail. All the signs are there and Bantu prophets have been warning of these things.

They will be judged not just because of abortions but primarily for what they did and are still doing to His chosen people.

True ancient black Jews were responsible for bringing major kingdoms to greatness and prominence. From Egypt to Assyria to Babylon to Rome and now to the last kingdom U.S.A. When this destruction happens, we can all call it a day. Then we will ask Trump worshipping Christians how far?

YAHUAH will always destroy those who destroy his people.

This thing is those wey dey see road versus those wey no dey see.