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Re: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by Hati13(m): 3:09am On Jan 12, 2018
AlderFadington:


Good point. But at what cost? Sometimes a fresh beginning is preferable than living with past scars or glories ingrained in you.

BTW Ethiopia is my favorite african country apart from nigeria and niger of course. Your history and your stance against colonization is impressive and i think ethiopians are the most beautiful amongst all horners. I just want to let you know that so you understand my statement isnt rude, im not trying to ignore a handshake but a true representation of my inner beliefs.
No, I don't think you statement was rude and you have the right to express your opinion. What is very important is the present like you said, but I also believe that knowing the past is also important.

And thanks for your positive feelings towards Ethiopia. I like Nigerians and this great forum is the main reason that helped me to understand the true things Nigeria and some other African countries.
Re: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by MetaPhysical: 4:46am On Jan 12, 2018
grin @AlderFadington & Imperial Yoruba. You guys are funny. grin

Imperial, is there something you know that connects Hausa elsewhere beside Hausaland? Beside, are you Imperial Hausa or Imperial Yoruba? grin grin grin Leave people alone to their own beliefs.


Hati, I agree, culture is dynamic and the present owes its glory to the past. In the trinity of past, present and future we can reflect upon the divinity of The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. In Yoruba, in symbolism only, it should be the spirit of Egungun, Ogboni and Oro.


To the OP, and in direct input to the topic...
I believe Yoruba can be sub-divided into two. The native and the settler. There were indigenous people on everyland in Nigeria, and there are settlers on everyland in Nigeria.

In the South there is a people called Ugbo in Yoruba (Igbo in East), they covered the whole Forest area from West to East. When settlers arrived in their midst they grew apart.

Those who settled West into the Ugboland are foreigners called Yorubas. Those who settled East into Igboland are also from a foreign land. It is not my position to talk about their origin. The mid-region between West and East were also settled by the Edos, Urhobos, Idomas, Ijaws and so on. I cannot talk for these people origin either. I can only share knowledge about mine - Yoruba.


To the North of the Ugbo aborigines you have the Noks. Noks cover the River Basins and the Plateau.


To be continued....
Re: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by JikanBaura(m): 3:47pm On Jan 12, 2018
AlderFadington:


LMAO grin Jikanbaura It seems you have the man riled up.

FYI only hausas who dont know their history get riled up by what you said.

Brush him aside cheesy ni dariya ma yake ban wallahi grin
Re: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by NubaVertigo(m): 8:50pm On Mar 07, 2018
Hey just curious, why are you hausas white people? Genetically speaking. I'm Yoruba and that sh*t is weird. R1b1, Afro-asiatic. Who the hell are you people?! *cries*
Re: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by NubaVertigo(m): 8:55pm On Mar 07, 2018
Okay, on a serious note. I've been looking online and realized Yorubas have 93.x% E-V38(e1b1a) frequency and 4.x% R1b frequency. Our neighbors, the Ewe, who I've always considered to be extremely close to the Yorubas have like 98% E-V38(e1b1a) haplogroup. Anyway, I wonder if R1b1 is the Oduduwa contribution in our history. Nobody really knows where he was from but who knows, that little genetic grouping might prove the oral history... As far as the actual topic here, yeah I agree with Nobody and JikanBaura... people be trippin
Re: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by Nobody: 8:13am On Mar 09, 2018
Olu317

I think you will benefit from this thread. Read carefully through it and if you have questions ask the many posters here respectfully and they will educate you. If there's any of the major points here you don't agree with you can provide a counter argument.

Try to tame that inner ape.
Re: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by Weedfree: 10:57am On Jan 11
ijebu was once in east Africa known as owodaiye empire you can tell by the similar tribe marks on there chick and how their is a tribe in Sudan that as a dialect similar to the ijebu race
Re: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by thinkafricanet: 12:22pm On Jan 11
Theydontcare:
With all the chest beating and quest to dominate one another, they are actually not indigenous people of Africa. The Bantus are more indigenous than all theses tribes. Why fighting. Let these tribes combine their effort and rewrite their history as a people. Consolidate and grow from there.

no, we are all imaginary people in your mind, and you are experiencing schizophrenia.
Re: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by labani06(m): 7:20pm On Jan 11
cooljude:
Lies! Bantu originated from a region between West Africa and Cameroon.

We are indigenous Africans forget those useless stories that we came from the middle East.
cameroun is also part of west africa Bantu are originated from some where around the middle belt to northern nigeria
Re: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by cooljude(m): 10:15pm On Jan 11
[quote author=labani06 post=74670626]
cameroun is also part of west africa Bantu are originated from some where around the middle belt to northern nigeria [/quote


Cameroon is a central African country like CAR, Congo etc.
Re: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by Spazolas: 1:09am On Jan 13
Lol. Okay you angry troll. Im just saying, we should be excluded because we're not supposed to be in here in the first place. We never claimed we are not african, our history certainly has never claimed we are not Africans? Igbos are from Israel, Yorubas from Mecca, we never claimed non African origin, nothing suggest we are non African so why are we included in this again? When you lot are trying to solve your confusion I just don't understand why you also have to include us in your madness.[/quote]

Yorubas are not from Mecca, we migrated to Nigeria from Canaan. Hausas are from Bhagdaad.
Re: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by Spazolas: 1:12am On Jan 13


grin grin

Lol alright man do as you please.
You lot can be from Scotland for all we care, that's your business. We know our history, we don't need outsiders changing it for us.

Besides, as long as no Hausa person is subscribing to this rubbish as im sure none will you headless chickens can go about doing what you please. Continue "reviewing" hausas who don't give a damn about what you think or say. cheesy


Hausas are from Bhagdad, read up your history. Yorubas are not from Mecca, we migrated from Canaan.
Re: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by Spazolas: 1:24am On Jan 13
NubaVertigo:
Okay, on a serious note. I've been looking online and realized Yorubas have 93.x% E-V38(e1b1a) frequency and 4.x% R1b frequency. Our neighbors, the Ewe, who I've always considered to be extremely close to the Yorubas have like 98% E-V38(e1b1a) haplogroup. Anyway, I wonder if R1b1 is the Oduduwa contribution in our history. Nobody really knows where he was from but who knows, that little genetic grouping might prove the oral history... As far as the actual topic here, yeah I agree with Nobody and JikanBaura... people be trippin


I’m even surprised how Igbos carry the E1b1a haplogroup DNA Marker, we aren’t related and we look nothing alike. I was puzzled when I discovered Hausas carried the R1b1b which was found in the Asians and Ashkenazis, whites to be precise.
Re: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by morpheus24: 4:51pm On Jan 14
Spazolas:



I’m even surprised how Igbos carry the E1b1a haplogroup DNA Marker, we aren’t related and we look nothing alike. I was puzzled when I discovered Hausas carried the R1b1b which was found in the Asians and Ashkenazis, whites to be precise.

You are surprised because you misunderstand phenotype versus Genotype. Someone doesn't have to look exactly like you to be very closely related to you.
The E1b1a marker links Most West Africans and Bantu expansionists into one lineage, it doesn't mean they all look alike, it just means their origins are more connected than say a Sudanese Nilotic who would have a higher frequency of the more ancient paternal Ytdna of A at 50% or less.

The Hausa R1b1b is most likely from back migrations from the levant. The paternal inclusion in their DNA simply means a lot of males intermarried with sub Saharan African females a long time ago introducing this particular genetic component into their gene pool. It is not the total autosomal composition of their DNA which would be more West African due to introgression and more closely related to their surrounding groups.

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Re: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by morpheus24: 5:00pm On Jan 14
NubaVertigo:
Okay, on a serious note. I've been looking online and realized Yorubas have 93.x% E-V38(e1b1a) frequency and 4.x% R1b frequency. Our neighbors, the Ewe, who I've always considered to be extremely close to the Yorubas have like 98% E-V38(e1b1a) haplogroup. Anyway, I wonder if R1b1 is the Oduduwa contribution in our history. Nobody really knows where he was from but who knows, that little genetic grouping might prove the oral history... As far as the actual topic here, yeah I agree with Nobody and JikanBaura... people be trippin

1.The Oduduwa story and the Yoruba pantheons are a mix of myth and real events that took place in Yoruba history.
2. The R1b frequency could have been intrusions from neighbouring groups such the Nupe, Igala, Igbirra or Hausa who were in closer contact with the Yorubas more so than the Ewe who undoubtedly share a genetic, cultural and linguistic history with the Yoruba to the East of them.

3. The low frequency in the Yoruba and in even lower frequency in the Ewe indicates it is most likely as a result of some mixing with groups carrying the R1B1

4. A way to test this theory would be to collect DNA sampling for all royal families in Yoruba land as they are the supposed descendants of the Oduduwa and his kin, if the R1b1 frequency occurs greater in their genotype than commoners then that would be a definite explanation for where the genetic marker came from since it is Paternal.

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Re: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by Amujale(m): 4:58am On Jan 23
The global world is broken and needs fixing. The only thing on our planet that can come close enough to finding a cure for the entire global world’s problems is the spirituality according to an African.

That is to say, the narative has changed. There’s need for us to stop looking outwards for nothingingness. All the answers of the world’s problems are in our dormain one way or another.

You and I are the answer, collectively, it is our kind and territory that holds all the answers to the worlds problems.

There is no people(s) outside of Africa (Diaspora) that really wishes Africans any good, all they are really after are our minerals.

The best thing about our Great continent is widely considered her trickiest among her many great qualities; natural resources.

Our Great continent is the oldest and as a result, the richest on the planet.

Let’s re-write history for the sake of the coming generation. The ones we keep passing-the-buck to, they are going to need a good start, or a concept to develop.

Here’s is what’s proposed:

The African Dream.

What is the African dream?

The African dream is the narrative that stands on the assumption that the rest of the world is crazed with lust for materialistic things and has neglected what really matters, our relationship with (the African) God(s).

Furthermore, it’s us Africans that will eventually have to come to the rescue of the rest of the world.

A pan - African progressive narrate that anywhere in the world Africans can relate to, work towards and rally around.


The African Dream

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Re: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by Amujale(m): 5:00am On Jan 23
Hausa, Ibo and Yoruba should replace English as the official written languages of Nigeria.

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Re: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by TheKongoEmpire(m): 7:38am On Apr 05
Epsilon5:
I didn't know Africans claimed to be from other places than Africa. Apparently that's where some of those African America s get thwir shame of being Afeican from and why they claim to be Israelites and Native Americans. Fruit don't fall far from the tree. Lol
I had to comment on that. Some of these AAs aren't worth the paper their printed on.

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