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Protocol duly observed...
Good afternoon NLanders, I'm here to counter Candygosh's argument.


Without wasting time, my opponent said "It is right for a man to assert his superiority in a relationship
because he was created to be stronger, decisive, wise and firm by God" am not a religious type but if God created man to be stronger and decisive then why was the woman created??

Do I start by telling you that God that is omnipresent, omnipotent and all the adjectives you can use to qualify him, do have angels as helper that he delegate duties unto, talkless a mere mortal.

I want to say that the woman was created so she could be his helper
-she was created so he would have a companion.

And a companion is someone you can share your everything with.

You're so on point, a man will definitely share his EVERYTHING with a submissive wife anyday, anytime and anywhere.

A companion is not someone you should assert your authority on.

A companion is someone that you both mutually agree on decisions together in a relationship.


To assert authority is simply to bring control, sanity and orderliness in the home, nevertheless, I strongly believe the woman should have a say/opinion, but it's left to the man to evaluate her suggestion(s).
It seems my opponent doesn't understand the meaning of the word "assert" and what it means to be assertive.

To assert means to to declare positive and often forcefully or aggresively.
Now tell me mr B ; why should a man want to forcefully and agressively pronounce his authority on a woman.

You said to ASSERT means forceful, that is not true in the context of a relationship, but can be true depending on the context to which you're using the definition i.e in dictatorial and military setup and the likes.

Check out the synonyms of Assert from the Merrian Webster dictionary you quoted from-Affirm, Avow, Guarantee and Profess. Do you also know that a child can assert his/her right?

Even biblically, it was written that for this reason shall a man leave his mother and father and be united to his wife and they will become one flesh. It didn't say he will leave his mother and father and begin to assert authority on his wife and make her his slave.


I will not even quote from the Bible because it's anti-feminism, but I believe it's a common sense to have a leader in a union who'll sail the ship.

Again my opponent said that
"why do Real men show their superiority
in a relationship?
But excuse me mr B, how do one define a real man in a relationship??
Does enforcing superiority show being a real man??
What man calls himself real by not valuing his partners opinion, by ignoring her emotions, by making her his pet??
As also said by my opponent "The truth is, a
man will only assert or show is superiority in a relationship when the woman in question is
not cooperative, stubborn, and disobedient.
Everyman as what he believes in, therefore it is highly important for a woman to share in
the hopes and aspiration of a man in order to have a successful relationship. Behind every
successful man, there's a supportive, Obedient, cooperative woman"

Yes, a man will assert his authority over the bolded, but a man will likely not enforce or assert authority over a submissive woman dat knows her duty as wife/partner.

I want to say that my opponent is just viewing this arguement from one angle and its wrong for him to have said a man will only assert his authority when the woman is not coperative, stubborn and disobedient. No woman will ever be happy with an abusive and assertive relationship where a man tells her dat she must not do this and must not do dat!
So also every man is to share in what his woman believes.

Why wont a woman be submissive to her man, even the Bible you quoted from admonished you to!

Behind every sucessful relationship is a listening man who doesn't jettison the counsel of his woman

Reading between the lines of my opponents post Has also made me come to a only a self centered man that exerts his authority in a relationship and also disrespect her opinions.


A wise man will assert his God's given authority over a woman, A wise man
will not jettison the opinion of his woman, A wise man will not disrespect his woman.

PS: A wise woman at the bolded!

“Real magic in relationships means an absence of judgment of others.” - Wayne Dyer

Asserting an authority does not literally translate to being judgemental of others, but bring sanity.

Thank you.

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Mine is in blue as usual, while that of my opponent will be in red below.

Thanks.

Wasn't around since yesterday to counter your arguments, unfortunately again, I wont be around till evening time. [quote author=Mrs.Chima]It was so good that my opponent couldn't even counter respond!

I copied and pasted my counter argument on Facebook and the men mad as hell. Of course I got men AND few women calling me feminist even after I illustrated the real definition of feminism. SMH.

I had to put my best toe forward for this best otherwise I would have continue to let you all believe all of Americans are trailer park dweller, preschool dropouts, government cheese snacking, and welfare beggars.

However, thanks! [/quote]

Good afternoon once more, all protocol duly observed...

Mrs. Chima


What relationship? Marriage? Courtship? Some debaters will say that it is a God’s given right and in religious doctrines that a man should hold authority over his household albeit confusing “head” with superiority.

I'll tell you this, God is not human that will contradict himself, so you see, there is nothing confusing here, when you're the head, you're superior in status.

I'm not religious person but I have read the bible and other religious books. According to the Bible, a man that leaves his mother and father cleaved to his wife and become “one”. How can a man hold superiority over his wife if he is “one” with his wife? Does that sound logical to you?

Yes, it does! You quoted from the bible, but the same bible appoint the man as the head (superior) of the family, come to think of it, what will happen to a ship without a captain, its better imagined.


According to the synonyms of superiority, it means better, excellence, top, dominance, supremacy, and perfection. With these examples, why would a loving and spiritual imperfect man claims such adjectives that solidify his belittling attitude toward his wife?

I beg to disagree, being superior in a relationship means responsibility on the part of the man, I'll reiterate what I said in my earlier post, being assertive is not same as bullying, harrassing, intimidating or belittling of women, but rather, it's to bring decorum in the home.

Now let remove the religious books out the equation and focus on reality, how do humans respond to individuals that demonstrate arrogance, which means exaggerated self-opinion? We show contempt, resistance, objection, and resentment toward arrogant individuals.


How can you mistake arrogance with superioty, do you mean your boss at your place of work is arrogant, simply because he/she is superior to you?

Arrogance and superiority both have similar traits in attitude, mentality, behavior, and speech. How can men who demonstrate superiority over his wife expect his wife to respond like a loving wife? I believe highly in an eye for an eye. Treat me how you want to be treated. Simple.

I repeat, never confuse superioty to be arrogance, the little I've come to know about women and their
'world', so to speak, ask them the traits they look forward to in a man, a man in CONTROL of situations will most likely top their list, woe betide a man without assertive nature, he'll definitely expose himself to ridicule and mockery.

From a personal standpoint, my husband is the head of the house and head in our family means representative of the family.

He's the head, head (man) cannot be a representative, but the subordinate (woman).


I am the neck to my husband, which means supporter and second opinion

Note the bolded, 'second opinion', that is, after the superior.

My husband knows his role as the head and I know my role as the neck.
The head can’t move without the neck, and the neck can’t move without the head and without each other, the house in itself stand divided.


Very true, when you know your role and play your part.

We do not make any affecting decisions without each other and if we would to live in a house where the head has superiority and authority over the house, such marriage will not flourish. It can’t flourish if there is no support from one another. It is like a parent trying to coddle a rebellious child.

It wont flourish when the wife doesn't know what is expected of her, the holy books admonishes women to be submissive and obedient to their husbands.

Lastly, superior attitude does NOT translate to cruelty but conscientious.

Thank you.

Very fast, people are going crazy and cruel .

CrazyMan: This is unbelievable...lynched on a major road...

Nigeria needs God's intervention.

Says who? Shock is awaiting you.

cowgurl: Thank you all, it was fun hanging out with you all.
**blow a kiss to her team mates and takes a bow**

ps...'v gat some champagne chilling mates, waiting to be popped after this fight cos the
blue team gat nothing on us, absolutely nada.

Can you imagine yourself declaring your husband score low, just because I asserted my right over you

ijebabe: *Enters the Judges Lounge*

If this was just the introduction I wonder what tomorrows round will be like!!

*reclines on sofa with a cranberry vodka*

Thanks.

adubiay: Nice one dont8

ayobase: I have dropped the bomb o!
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I feel u jare my guy.....u r soooo representing!
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Dubem3...I dey see u o!

Waiting...

ayobase: Pls, be patient with me.
Was typing mine right on here, but cant explain what happened. E dey pain me o!
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Im using my phone, pls bear with me.

Sure bet, hope Tosin gives me female-child

dayokanu: Excellent points, I hope you extend these teachings to your daughters

Yeah, just like Obama

skydeep: save the best for last

You're bullying my network already

skydeep: oops! Sorry. My bad

Good, you know I've got lot of experience with the ladies over the years, especially with ... Fill the gap

ayobase: Im in then!
Supporting!

Hey antelope, long time

xynerise: More like you are pointless on the issue

No deal of whatsoever!

I got to assert my authority.

ayobase: Swthrt, pls can I use ur signature space to place advert(s).
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And free of course....u be my person!
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Deal?

Hi everyone, how is your LOs doing. I've got a question to ask, my question is, how safe is it to combine antenatal with traditional (herbal) care in pregnancy, thanks.

Thank you for this statement, everyone must condemn this gruesome and callous murder of this 'innocent' students, may their souls rest in peace.

Demdem: Good response from CPC. all sane minds are expected to condemn such a barbaric incident.

I think it's a lost battle, because it's too late for any action(s) to be taken.

Supporting.

Let's keep our fingers crossed.

ayobase: Yeah two more....one for the Vice Presidential candidates and the other for the presidential candidates.....Im holding on to c whats gonna happen!

Actually, it's two debate left to go and I agree with your analysis, Romney has got nothing to lose and the pressure is on Obama, maybe he (Obama) is saving the best for the last.

ayobase: Romney has nothing to lose, but Obama. And maybe he was lenient due to his marriage anniversary....he wants a memorable and romantic 20yrs wedding anniversary!
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There are points with which Obama can nail and bury Mitt with without resurrection, but he wouldnt.....they still have one more debate though!
Obama is not daft, he has succeeded with one thing, he set the bait for Mitt and he fell for it....politics is a game....Mitt should go for teeth wiring cos he is gonna be hit so hard on the jaw down to the jugular.
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Back to your question.....Romney won!

Yeah, I think it'll be a great movie going by the trailer, I don't want to judge a book by the cover.

ijebabe: Hmmm, from the trailer I think I can say this movie will be a very interesting watch.
Time they say...

Hi Speedy, long time, why don't you give the movie benefit of doubt.

Ije, nice work as usual, I reserved your kiss.

speedyboi: Abeg...is it my imagination that agbani darego has got implants in those boobs?
Meanwhile...God knows I won't watch this movie even for free! I guess its a repackaged version of black gold. I didn't watch that as well. And I thank God the movie didn't see the light of another day despite the hypes . I can only pray the samething happens to black November as well. *keeping my fingers crossed* lol

Debate has come and gone, in your opinion, who do you think won the debate?

ayobase: The debate is by 2am.....one hr time!