₦airaland Forum

Credibleman:
This man is a philanthropist. A very kind politician.

givedemwotowoto:
Peter Obi will eventually make politicians to become philanthropists against their will

Lol! Political philanthropy. We all know the gist

He can spend his money the way he wants. I don't care.

Calling Lagos a "no man's land " should be considered a hate-speech in Nigeria. Statement like this are meant to bait and annoy some people.

Nobody asked for Lagos to be made capital. In fact, it is not everyone that like chaotic cities like Lagos. Lagos stopped being the capital of Nigeria 34 years ago. Yet, some people are still saying crap like Lagos is a no man's land.

As far as I know, there is no habitable land in the world that does not have its own people.

I genuinely believe in inclusivity where everyone in Lagos live peacefully regardless of their tribe or nationality, but calling the place a "no man's land" is annoying, disrespectful and ungrateful to the indigenous people. It will not serve those saying that any good.

okpouman:
The foundation laid by Lagos being the capital of Nigeria for over 70years cannot be wished away by the Yorubas ,every Nigerian as a special stake in LAGOS like they do in Abuja .unless Nigeria is divided, Lagos is an entitlement for every Nigerian .if the capital is moved from Abuja tomorrow ,Abuja will still and must remain as an entitlement of every NIGERIAN.

I repeat once again Yorubas cannot ,and do not have exclusive ownership of LAGOS. LAGOS is an entitlement of every single NIGERIAN. Maybe apart from the Fulani who aren't NIGERIANS.

Lagos has been a commercial hub before Nigeria (before any relationship between East and West) was founded in 1914. As far back as 1800's, Lagos was a thriving hub for slavery. Lagos would have been at moderately great city, even if it was not a capital.

Keep repeating whatever you like to yourself. It is not going to help you in any way. All I see is arrogance.

aribisala0:
some correction
The term FCT was not used with Lagos city when it was capital in Lagos state
Lagos was always part of Lagos state
In the second Republic states had 5 senators and Lagos division was represented by Senator Shitta-Bey
The Oba of Lagos has always chaired the council of Obas in Lagos state
These are things that are known to indigenes
Lagos City Hall on Lagos Island was the seat of local government activities in. THE OLDEST LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN NIGERIA and the most important local council office in Nigeria in terms of revenue


ONCE LAGOS STATE WAS CREATED LAGOS NEVER HAD A MINISTER as FCT MINISTER



all local government activities were run by the state government e,g. Island Maternity hospital, Massey street children's hospital and schools on the island

Thank you for the correction. I will update my post.

okpouman:
What it means is that the claim That Yorubas built LAGOS is false,LAGOS was built by the FG of Nigeria

Nobody would say the Yoruba built Lagos alone. I personally acknowledge the contribution of Igbos, Hausa and other Nigerians in Lagos. It can be a home for all as long as people are respectful and understand their boundaries.

okpouman:
Yorubas do not have exclusive rights to LAGOS. It's a creation of Nigeria like Abuja is

The pride in this post is a problem. The Yorubas did not call the British, the Nigerian State or anyone to develop the place. Besides, it is not everyone that fancy a mega city like Lagos. Some people are just okay having their peace and quiet in smaller towns.

Secondly, Lagos stopped being the capital of Nigeria since 1991. I don't know why people like you have this sense of entitlement to another person's land.

Lastly, if not for posts like yours and the thousands of people like you, we would not be having this conversation. Everyone would be minding their businesses. As far as I know, nobody would chase you out of the house or businesses you built in Lagos. However, arrogantly saying Lagos is not owned by the Yoruba might make you lose it all.

okpouman:
Native Western region rule lasted only six years

What do you mean by this? If it lasted only for six years, what would that mean? Eastern Region, Western Region and Northern Region are just some colonial administrative areas that has nothing to do with the ownership, indigeneship or ethnic composition of any geographical area.

Narratives like this is one of the main reasons why certain people from the SW are getting hostile to Non-Yorubas in Lagos.

Wellprotected:
Yes there's a difference between LAGOS and LAGOS STATE .. lagos was actually the capital of Lagos state 1967 before ikeja became the capital 1976.

You are very wrong. There was nothing like Lagos State before 1967.

okpouman:
There was nothing in the so called lands outside the LAGOS island so called capita,it was just jungle,it was the FG that opened up all of the LAGOS land area not the so called Western region which rule lasted only about 6 years

Who told you there was nothing? Even if there was nothing, it does not mean that those places where "no man's land" like some of you like to claim.

While this current seeming disharmony in Lagos is unfortunate, it is the hateful narrative of calling Lagos "no man's land" or disrespectful and vile narrative like calling Lagos State Benin land that is causing recent problem.

What is the big deal in everyone minding his business and living peacefully?

FaAbData:
I agree with your last paragraph, politically that's where this argument is headed. And you're not doing Reno any good with that submission

But that aside.
I want to understand, agreed Lagos Island was capital before and 1967. But at1967 when the Lagos State was created where other parts not added to it to form Lagos State? So that Lagos Island which is capital now had other parts added to it to form Lagos State to continue being capital?

I understand the politics around this. However, Reno is mostly correct.

Like I posted earlier, Lagos State benefited a lot from all Nigerians. It is a center of excellence to many. We should all try to live peacefully with one another: Yoruba, Ijaw, Igbo, Hausa. I personally consider it home to all Nigerians, although the past few years have been crazy.

FaAbData:
Ojo, Ikeja and Badagiri were under which state between 1967 and 1991?

I don't understand the rationale behind this question. However, Ojo, Ikeja and Badagry are under Lagos State, since Lagos State was created in 1967. Your question should have been to ask the jurisdiction under which they were before 1967. The answer is Western Region together with present Ogun, Oyo, Ondo, Osun and Ekiti.

esnbrutality:
Just to support fallacy and outright lies by a known and failed propagandist. See the people above my post that support a failure.


So if ILORIN was the administrative capital of NIGERIA, the capital of NIGERIA is ILORIN? ..not Kwara State abi?

Na wa ooooooo!!?

In the case of Lagos State, it was carved out of Western Region. More importantly, Lagos was the capital almost 60 years before Lagos State was created.

Therefore, your analogy of Ilorin and Kwara is invalid in this context.

FaAbData:
What was the capital of Nigerian between 1967 and 1991.

The other part (outside the island) that wasn't part of the capital (according to u) was under which atate?

Lagos Island, which was the capital before 1967, remained the capital until 1991. Lagos State was not. In fact, the former capital only started being governed by Lagos State after 1991 when the capital was moved to Abuja.

Lagos Island had its own minister like we have in FCT now until 1991.

Many people confused the two because of the word "Lagos". Lagos State (minus Lagos Island, VI, Ikoyi and Apapa) was never the capital of Nigeria.

That being said, the entire Lagos State benefitted from the proximity to then FCT and people all over Nigeria contributed to the development.

supreme2014:
I swear that man is mad. Just read the rubbish

What he typed is correct. The problem is that many of you are misinformed and arrogant in your misinformation. Lagos Island had been the capital of Nigeria for almost 60 years before Lagos State was created in 1967 from the then Western Region. Lagos Island had its own ministers like Abuja has until 1991.

The confusion stems mostly from the word "Lagos" in Lagos Island and Lagos State.

Borrow2222:
I don't usually reply to people here, but for you I will make an exception.

What you just said is like saying that Asokoro, which is the seat of power, is not in Abuja.

All in a bid to support APC and the failed Pastor Reno, you guys want to rewrite history, and I wonder which mod allowed such wrong information to reach the front page.

Lagos Island in Lagos state was the seat of government from 1914 to 1991. In 1991 it was moved to Abuja, and Asokoro is now the seat of power.



Later, another charlatan like Reno will come out in the future and say that the capital of Nigeria is Asokoro and not Abuja, and clowns like you will start jubilating.

You are very wrong. If you show me anything contrary to what I wrong from any book, I will send you 20k right away.

Does Asokoro have Asokoro Minister? Lagos Island was governed by the FG until 1991, and ministers were appointed to administer it then, like we have Wike administering Abuja now.

Secondly, Lagos was the capital of Nigeria for almost 60 years before Lagos state was created from the Western Region. None of the extant Lagos land in the then FCT was part of Lagos State until the capital was moved to Abuja in 1991.

Like I posted earlier, there would have been less confusion if the name Lagos Island remained, but Lagos State had a different name like Yaba or Ikorodu State.

Wutinky:
Which part of Abuja is the capital? keep deceiving yourself, no Nigerian will listen to this your misinformation

Like I said in a previous post, do your research. I will give you 20,000 today if I am wrong. I understand that some of you honestly don't understand the dynamics of Lagos State and Lagos Island. Those who are honestly misinformed, can do independent research on the topic.

Wutinky:
You are being too emotional and please stop feeding your people with lies by rewriting history, like I said before, the entire Lagos was capital of Nigeria until it was moved to Abuja, I don’t know why those from other SW states is trying so hard rewrite history, as if entire Lagos was developed by them? why is Ibadan and Ondo still underdeveloped? My advice is to stop deceiving yourself and your people, it’s disgusting, ire oo

You are ignorant and arrogant. There is no history book in Nigeria that will validate what you wrote. I don't deal with lies. Lagos Island until 1991 had FCT minister like we have Wike in Abuja. It was in 1991 that Lagos Island really became part of Lagos State.

Like I pointed out severally, many of you honestly (I believe) misunderstood Lagos Island and Lagos because of the word "Lagos". Lagos Island was the capital of Nigeria over 50 years before Lagos State was created from the Western Region. If Lagos State had adopted a different name like Yaba State, many of you would not be confused. FYI, states like Enugu and Kaduna are named after Enugu and Kaduna, which are also towns in those states. A similar dynamic exists between Lagos Island and Lagos State.

I challenge you to do your research from history books, both local and foreign. If you find anything contrary to what I wrote, I will send you 20,000 today.

I wrote what I wrote mainly to educate and not to exclude anyone. Lagos and Nigeria belongs to us all. However, there is a need to point out the fact.

As for Ibadan not being as developed as Lagos, I slightly touched on that in a previous post. We can all agree that Lagos State benefit from its proximity to the former capital. It is expected. Maryland and Virginia in the US both benefit from their closeness to Washington DC. Similarly, Nasarawa will be one of the most developed states in Nigeria in the future because of its closeness to Abuja.

WriterX:
Reno Omokri's argument that Lagos State was never Nigeria’s capital relies on semantic deflection rather than historical accuracy he need to go back to the books, as Lagos served as the federal capital until 1991, and its development as the center of governance affected far more than just Lagos Island.

Claiming that Lagos State was not the capital because only certain districts were officially designated ignores the broader reality that the entire Lagos metropolis functioned as the administrative and political hub of Nigeria, let him go confirm this and fact check it.

His assertion that naming roads after non-Yoruba figures proves inclusivity is a weak appeal to tokenism, since naming infrastructure after prominent Nigerians does not address more systemic issues of ethnic bias, political exclusion, or discrimination, never has it, never will it!

Drawing a comparison between Lagos and the City of London is misleading, as Lagos operates under a unified government structure, unlike the complex governance split in London.

Suggesting that states exist solely to preserve the culture of their indigenous population distorts the purpose of Nigerian federalism, which was meant to encourage administrative balance, not ethnic homelands. By advpcating that anyone dissatisfied with Lagos should leave, he undermines constitutional guarantees of freedom of movement and residence, and flirts with a dangerous logic of excluision that has historically fueled ethnic conflict across Nigeria. While It's good that Lagos offers social services and pays salaries, but these are constitutional obligations, not favors, and do not absolve the state of its responsibility to be inclusive.

And that his claim that Lagos is the 19th best city to live in, according to TimeOut Magazine, is factually inaccurate and unsupported by credible global rankings, which consistently rate Lagos low due to infrastructural challenges and quality-of-life issues.

Reno’s argument may sound correct, but it ultimately rests on selective history, deflections, and a narrow view of what it means to belong in a diverse and democratic Nigeria.

I pity the gullible who fall prey to his intelligent nonsense.

The hallmark of literacy is being able to learn, unlearn and re-learn. From what you wrote, you know little about history, but you are still arrogant in your ignorance..

If you didn't know. Lagos Island was the capital of Nigeria 50 years before Lagos State was created from the Western Region in 1967. Lagos Island had FCT ministers until 1991 when the capital was moved, and it was not under Lagos State government. The control of Lagos Island came under Lagos State in 1991 when the capital was moved, since it was too tiny to be a state on its own.

The main reason many people misunderstand the dynamic between Lagos/Lagos Island and Lagos State is because of the word "Lagos". The misunderstanding would have been minimized if Lagos State had adopted another name entirely.

Enugu and Kaduna States are both named after Enugu and Kaduna, which are also towns in those states. It is a similar dynamic between Lagos Island and Lagos State.

Borrow2222:
Listen to the nonsense you're spewing!

So, Lagos Island is in your house?

Isn't Lagos Island part of Lagos State?

It's like people will say anything to support APC - even educated folks start talking like illiterates

Illiterate calling other people illiterates. The hallmark of literacy is being able to learn, unlearn and re-learn. From what you wrote, you know little about history, but you are still arrogant in your ignorance to the point of calling someone better informed than you illiterate.

If you didn't know. Lagos Island was the capital of Nigeria 50 years before Lagos State was created from the Western Region in 1967. Lagos Island has FCT minister until 1991 when the capital was moved, and it was not under Lagos State government. The control of Lagos Island came under Lagos State in 1991 when the capital was moved, since it was too tiny to be a state on its own.

The main reason many people misunderstand the dynamic between Lagos/Lagos Island and Lagos State is because of the word "Lagos". The misunderstanding would have been minimized if Lagos State had adopted another name entirely.

Enugu and Kaduna States are both named after Enugu and Kaduna, which are also towns in those states. It is a similar dynamic between Lagos Island and Lagos State.

Wutinky:
You don’t know what you are saying, entire Lagos was build with Niger delta oil, you can’t just wake up to rewrite history, it will never work, and please stop listening to lies, ire oo

The problem with some of you is that you are not capable of critical reasoning and dissection of information. What has Niger Delta oil has to do with Lagos State not being Nigeria's capital? I would expect that you verify or counter my point with superior information. Rather, you are going all emotional. Lagos (a tiny part of Lagos State) was the capital of Nigeria 50 years before Lagos state was created in 1967 from the Western region. The former capital only fully became part of Lagos State when the capital was moved to Abuja in 1991.

As per Lagos being developed by Niger Delta oil, we could make the same argument for every other part of Nigeria. All the states in the country benefit from Niger Delta oil. Shikena!!!

Ofunaofu:
Mynd44, you're a moderator. I expected you to rise above board, be neutral and apolitical, which is the standard for someone in your position but your bias here calls your purpose on this platform into question.

You're confusing administrative boundaries with political narratives. The capital was Lagos not Lagos Island, not Lagos State just Lagos, as recognized both constitutionally and internationally. This revisionist spin to make Reno Omokri sound informed only shows how far some of you are willing to go to defend clear misinformation.

Yes, over 70% of what is now Lagos State was once part of the old Western Region but that doesn’t change the fact that Lagos, as the Federal Capital Territory, was carved out and administered separately from the Western Region. This was from 1963 until Abuja officially became the capital in 1991.

If we’re going to rewrite history, let’s at least not embarrass ourselves in the process.

@bolded, are you talking about Lagos Island or Lagos State. I believe most confusion stems from the word "Lagos".

If Lagos State had adopted a different name, the confusion would have been minimized. Lagos and Lagos State are not the same, just as Enugu/Kaduna/Ondo State are different from Enugu/Kaduna/Ondo town.

You are confusing yourself with the write-up.

Ofunaofu:
Reno Omokri, the rábble-rousér, is now rewriting history by claiming that the former capital of Nigeria was Lagos Island and not Lagos.

Truly, Reno Omokri is now a mádmán, róaming aimléssly

There is no history rewriting. The problem is that some of you don't even know history at all.

Lagos was capital before Lagos State was created. Lagos Island became the capital in 1914; Lagos State was created in 1967 from the Western Region. None of the extant area of Lagos was part of the Lagos State created in 1967. In fact, the total control of the former capital fell under Lagos State after the capital was moved to Abuja in 1991.

He is correct. Lagos State was never the capital of Nigeria. The capital of Nigeria was Lagos Island.

The main reason people mistaken Lagos State as a former capital is because of the confusion caused by the word "Lagos" in Lagos Island and Lagos State. If Lagos State had adopted a different name, the confusion wouldn't have been there.

Lagos Island and its environs became the capital of Nigeria in 1914. Whereas Lagos State was created in 1967 from the Western Region. Most of what is currently known as Lagos State today was part of the Western region. The administration of Lagos Island fully came under Lagos State after the capital was moved to Abuja in 1991.

To be fair to all, Lagos State benefit immensely from its proximity to the former capital. That is not unexpected. Even Virginia and Maryland benefit from their proximity to Washington DC. Nasarrawa State is benefitting and will continue to benefit from its proximity to Abuja.


When I hear people say, "Lagos is no man's land", I wonder which Lagos they are referring to.

1nigeriamyfoot:
Unity of North & South East in the coming presidential election is a must if we are ready to unseat the APC monster

I am from south west but the fact still remains that our governors are selling out & will manipulate result to a great extent in favour of their brother since they are getting fat pay from him not minding the fact that Nigerians are becoming poorer each day due to harsh policies and excessive tax burdens

South Easterner deserves to mount the seat of power in this country too, it's not meant for north & South West alone

South West & Rivers state is not enough to win election infact Lagos is not in the pocket of APC whereas it's SW state

Unity of North, & South East with huge votes in some SW state except Ekiti, Ogun, Osun, will help remove this APC monster from the seat of power

There's nothing like 8yrs for South West, 2 terms is not mandatory in our constitution

Enough of wicked administration

You mean the North you and your likes have insulted and called all manner of names since 2015?

By the way, good luck with your alliance with the North. The SW will wait for you by the time the SE is done with the VP position and they will realign with the North against a presidential candidate from the SE. Don't forget: the SW is the second largest voting bloc in Nigeria after the NW. The SW also has a large Muslim and Christian population that makes their interaction with the NW, NE and NC easier. I don't see any Southerner becoming the president without a reasonable support from SW. GEJ would educate you better.

Chidibe212:
But Obi has declared himself that whe he becomes the President in 2027 that he will leave on May 28, not 29 2031. So why are you crying like this?

If you ever thought that the coalition is to make Obi president, then you don't understand Nigeria. The coalition is mainly for Atiku to be president. By the time they conduct their primaries, you would see how Atiku would get almost all the votes.

kingbee90:
But southerners are not short sighted when Osinbajo became vice to Buhari in 2019 abi?

Gerarahia joor. Una go cry taya..,

I have addressed this in an earlier post on another thread.

DoTheNeedful:
Why wouldn't they give him standing a ovation? He is the key to power going back to the North. Northerners are very good at using and dumping Southerners. They nearly dumped Tinubu himself in 2023, if not for the fact that Tinubu was street smart.

The playbook is familiar. Every time a Southerner is in power, the Northerners have a way of wanting to get power through the backdoor, using some willing Southerners. Obasanjo prostrated for his Northern VP to do a second term. The North used Tinubu, Amaechi and some Southerners to get Jonathan out in 2015. Now is the time to use Obi, Ameachi, Aregbe and co, to get power back to the North.

If the alliance win in 2027, come 2031 Obi will not be president. A politician from the North will also team up a Yoruba man or someone from SS to keep power in the North. Then, it might be the alliance of SW and NW, a replay of 2015.


It is nothing new. The North always bait a few Southerners with VP slots, which is a useless position. Northerners, being more politically savvy than Southerners, know that a VP position is useless. They don't value it, and are always very restless when they are not number one.

kingbee90:
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Yen yen yen
Cry us a river. Yoruba teamed up with the north and power from the south, now it's the turn of the Igbos and south south to snatch power from yoruba.
Don't mention the "South" here. There is nothing like a united south.
Life na turn by turn.

No problem. That cycle will continue. Another alliance will form between the North and the SW that would prevent maybe Obi from presidency. We will keep playing the game until the SW, SE and SS all sit down and realize how the North has been using them.

Mind you, the SW and the NW are the largest voting blocs in Nigeria. Any candidate would need to win at least one of those two to be president. By implication, such alliance would mostly benefit the SW the most.

Any alliance that would not make Obi the presidential candidate is a fraud by the North.

The North has a way of hoodwinking the South whenever they don't have the power. If Obi accepts the VP position, this evil cycle will not end. By 2031 or 2035, another Northerner will form an alliance with the SW against Obi to keep power in the North.

If the alliance is genuinely about the supposed Tinubu's bad governance, then they should make Obi their presidential candidate.

Southerners are very short-sighted!

Why wouldn't they give him standing a ovation? He is the key to power going back to the North. Northerners are very good at using and dumping Southerners. They nearly dumped Tinubu himself in 2023, if not for the fact that Tinubu was street smart.

The playbook is familiar. Every time a Southerner is in power, the Northerners have a way of wanting to get power through the backdoor, using some willing Southerners. Obasanjo prostrated for his Northern VP to do a second term. The North used Tinubu, Amaechi and some Southerners to get Jonathan out in 2015. Now is the time to use Obi, Ameachi, Aregbe and co, to get power back to the North.

If the alliance win in 2027, come 2031 Obi will not be president. A politician from the North will also team up a Yoruba man or someone from SS to keep power in the North. Then, it might be the alliance of SW and NW, a replay of 2015.


It is nothing new. The North always bait a few Southerners with VP slots, which is a useless position. Northerners, being more politically savvy than Southerners, know that a VP position is useless. They don't value it, and are always very restless when they are not number one.

Imagine going from "I won the election" to wanting to deputize the person that came second in the last election.


Accepting to run with Atiku as a running mate is going to be a mistake for Obi. There is no way it would not diminish his political standing in the public view. It is not worth it. Besides, a VP has no real power. I prefer to be a governor than a VP. The only time a VP is anything is if the president dies in office.

Moreover, executive power is very intoxicating. In the event that Obi became the VP, there is no guarantee that Atiku would honor any promise. Their relationship might even go bad within the first few months. There is usually a distrust between the president/governor and the vice. Even Buhari did not support Osinbajo's presidential run. Most governors don't support their vices' ambitions either.

Lastly, Atiku would not be a one term president. I have been following politics closely since 1999, and no incumbent has ever done a singular term without seeking re-election. In the unlikely event that Atiku decide not to run, the North would kick. They still feel cheated by Yar'Adua's death. Another Northerner would contest and pick a vice from SS or SW.