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 Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 10:38pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
¶ The End-State is a Monogamous Relationship with Children and a Job This is one of the shared views between the blue pill and the purple pill. From my perspective, this is a flawed view, however, I also think that the end-state a man desires for himself, is his choice and his decision as long as he has educated himself on alternative options. The trouble with blue pill men is that they cannot see beyond their social programming and thus fail to see alternate avenues of accomplishment, a purple pill man so far as he has explored his options is perfectly qualified to make such a decision. 3 Likes 3 Shares |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 10:37pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
¶ Men and Women are Different and Once You Know, You Can Handle That This mirrors the red pill to quite a large degree. However, the assumption that this gives control is flawed. The fact that one knows which variables exist, does not mean that one can control or predict their effects or their inter-dependencies. A lack of control is not the most dangerous, an illusion of control is. If one is aware that one has no control, it is likely that risk management is employed to reduce probability of threats and lessen their impact. If one thinks that the threats are under control, then it is likely that risk management will be neglected. Being red pill aware, and thus knowing of hypergamy, solipsism and so on, does not translate into control over their effects. Perhaps it may serve to reduce the risk of failure somewhat, but that it does not reduce the impact of the risk, merely the probability. In fact, the perception of control and risk management may in and of itself lead to higher risk exposure as a result of underestimating the risk of the event in question. You have little control over what happens the day your submissive, traditional, red pill wife gets a new alpha boss, or gets influenced negatively by her girlfriends. Picking a woman with a good history, young, with the right personality and character traits is a good risk-reduction strategy, but does not totally eliminate risk. I’ve been very entertained by the men who go off to a young girl from the village for marriage, who is then rapidly corrupted the second she spends time with City women. 10 Likes 3 Shares |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 10:22pm On Sep 29, 2020*. Modified: 11:04pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
michaelandre:Mehn this is deep. As you can see women love a dominant man. I will leave you with this quote. If you let yourself to be a push over, its game over —Dpsychologist 12 Likes 1 Share |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 10:19pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
¶ Be Your Best Self So You Can Just Be Yourself The Red Pill position is that all men should strive to be their best selves and the blue pill position that men should just be themselves. However, the purple pill positions itself somewhere between these two points, usually with the position that a man should strive to make himself as alpha as possible, in order to facilitate an aspect of being able to be himself. This is reminiscent of the old school pick up artists, who rather than seek to become high value men, would become really good at appearing as high value men. With somewhat disastrous results. It will also create issues as your frame will be non-congruent, as it requires a degree of self-control and conscious presence that is non-sustainable over a long period of time. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 10:16pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
¶ Perfect one for you Central to the blue pill fantasy is the idea of there being a “ one “, a perfect partner who fulfills your every need. However, Purple Pill is also of the notion that through being Redpill one can find the perfect partner. Leaving out the part where perfection is a human conception that has no place in reality, and if it did would at best exist in a moment by moment basis, there is no such thing as a perfect partner. Someone may be a better fit for you than another, in transient moments it may feel as they are perfect but this is an illusion. A man cannot at the same time accept AWALT and view his partner in the manner required for the blue pill. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
| Romance › Re: Am I Been Deceived? by Dpsychologist: 10:06pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
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| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 10:01pm On Sep 29, 2020*. Modified: 3:56pm On Oct 02, 2020 |
[color=#800080] THE PURPLE PILL The purple pill is a position that seeks to enable a man to have the blue pill fantasy, while remaining red pill. In essence leveraging his red pill knowledge in order to experience the blue pill fantasy. The Purple Pill is a euphemism for men who’ve become Red Pill aware, but for a variety of insecurities have decided to temper the uncomfortable truths of that awareness with their previous Blue Pill hopes. The harsh, ugly truths that the nature of women, the nature of Hypergamy and the natural selection process of intersexual dynamics presents to these guys becomes too much to bear. There’s a want for some sort of Red Pill solution in achieving Blue Pill fantasized goals. Learn this now, you will never achieve contentment or emotional fulfillment in a blue pill context with red pill awareness. —Rollo Tomassi Just like the Blue Pill-Red Pill dichotomy, here are views of Purple Pill:[/color] 3 Likes 2 Shares
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| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 9:51pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
Skepticus:Since i got my first ban, i have started backing up everything. 4 Likes 1 Share |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 9:37pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
hahn:I think that will be the solution. 2 Likes |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 9:36pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
Vecto:Exactly. Treat her like a celebrity and she treats you like a fan. BTW I like the rhymes 5 Likes |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 9:30pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
Skepticus:Bro, i have been thinking about that for a while. This contents are esoteric. I got banned close to 10times on this thread. I had to complain before i was unbanned indefinitely. 4 Likes 1 Share |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 9:26pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
39.) BACKSLIDING ; THE PURPLE PILL In The Matrix: Cypher was willing to betray and kill his friends in the hope of returning to a cozy, simulated reality(Blue Pill world). When I wrote the blue and red pill dichotomy, the goal was to identify the mutual exclusivity of the two frameworks. I deliberately left out the purple pill, as it requires its own SECTION due to the fact that it appears to contradict the mutual exclusivity that was outlined earlier. In a sense, once a man learns red pill knowledge, it is impossible to return to the Matrix without significant dissonance, unlike Cypher, there is simply no way to have your mind wiped clean of all aspects of the red pill. It may be suppressed for a time, or channeled through a defense mechanism or two , but the idealism that is required for a true blue pill fantasy is gone and what remains is merely a hollow shell. The purple pill is somewhat of an amalgamate of The Blue Pill and the Red Pill. In a sense they are Cypher, aware of the truth but with a deep desire to return to the the dream.—Dpsychologist 5 Likes 4 Shares |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 9:23pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
drLammy:I talked about it extensively earlier, go to page 2 you will see it. |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 6:33pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
Lets roll shall we |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 6:11pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
drealcivilceno:E no balance abi 1 Like |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 2:34pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
drealcivilceno:Thats a very good point, i didn't even thought of that. 6 Likes 1 Share |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 2:05pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
I find it very telling, that among the challenges to the red pill theory, I am yet to see long form criticisms based on established facts when it comes to: ¶ Hypergamy ¶ Briffault’s law ¶ Bateman’s principle and the consequences thereof Or the many other biological principles that underline the red pill. The case made against the red pill tends to frequently be based on, ideology, values, morals, emotions, ideals or other intangibles. It is never as part of a search for truth 14 Likes 4 Shares |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 7:21am On Sep 29, 2020 |
TrollKiller:Thanks bro. Is good to have you here. 1 Like |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 9:53pm On Sep 28, 2020 |
We will continue tomorrow 2 Likes |
| Romance › Re: Everyday I Do This, And It's Awesome by Dpsychologist: 8:08pm On Sep 28, 2020 |
This is wisdom |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 8:01pm On Sep 28, 2020 |
Summary Perhaps the best illustration of the Blue Pill mindset is “ Just be yourself “, the Universe will grant you your dreams, your soul-mate, and all the riches of which you dream. The Red pill on the other hand, while often viewed as seeing reality for what it is, it is in fact viewing reality without blue pill idealism. The narrative structure of the red pill is best likened to the adventures of Conan The Barbarian , wherein every time the hero finds peacefulness, it is taken from him as he lets his guard down. 17 Likes 3 Shares |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 7:55pm On Sep 28, 2020 |
¶ Men and Women are Different This is perhaps one of the cardinal principles of The Red Pill, and as such the reason why books like “ Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus” are printed, why magazines are full of advice columns of the type “100 things men/women look for” keep selling, and why so few men and women understand what women want. Those who are adherents of “ constructivism ” will argue that this is due to the influence of society and culture. Those who are fans of biology, will advocate that differences are biological. However, It doesn’t matter whether biology or society creates these differences, what matters is that they are there. One has to live according to what is actually there, not what is ideally there. 6 Likes 3 Shares |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 7:52pm On Sep 28, 2020 |
¶ The End State Depends on Desire Society from the day you are born, starts programming you. From the day you are born into the world, the path of “ do well in school, get a good job, find a wife and have children ” is communicated to you both covertly and overtly for most of your life. The Blue Pill framework offers you every answer conveniently wrapped up with a little bow, and sets you “free”. The Red Pill framework on the other hand gives you few answers, in many ways it only prompts your mind to generate more questions. Whether you find the philosophy because you simply want to get laid more often and with more beautiful women, or because you are barely staying on your feet after a divorce massacre or painful heartbreak , eventually, you will have to generate your own answers. ¶ It Is About What You Can do For Self The Red pill takes the perspective that each man owes it to himself to strive for his own happiness and aspire to be the best version of himself. Be this as a father, a worker, a community member, the Red Pill makes no judgement as long as it is congruent with the man’s desire. 7 Likes 4 Shares |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 7:48pm On Sep 28, 2020 |
¶ The Right Partner Does Not Exist There is no soul-mate, just as there is no perfect person to hire for a job, or a perfect parent. The danger here is projection and what happens when the halo effect takes over. Men are very visual, and humans in general have a tendency to over-estimate the good qualities in a person who looks good. So, when a man is in lust, he enters a long term relationship that should have ended with the first orgasm. For many men, their “soul-mate” is the person right then and there he wants most to stick his d1ck into. 20 Likes 3 Shares |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 7:45pm On Sep 28, 2020 |
¶ A Relationship even with a Good Person is Difficult Any situation where you have to compromise, argue and agree, as opposed to make your decision yourself is inherently prone to conflict. There is no need for a sexual relationship to be involved, a business relationship, a friendship, or trying to get 4 of your friends to agree where to go can be a discussion that is fraught with frustration, anger, conflict, disagreements and resentment. Add sex to the mix and you just add another ingredient that can cause conflict. A relationship where feelings are involved as well as assets, sex, potentially children and a friendship, will by its very nature hold all the ingredients for a very volatile mix, and while both parties may want the same thing, it rarely plays out that way. 14 Likes 3 Shares |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 7:43pm On Sep 28, 2020 |
The Red Pill The Red Pill is in many ways focused on “seeing reality” as is. At the core it is about viewing people’s action and the functionality of society with rational cynicism rather than blind idealism. The Redpill is counterintuitive to the Blue Pill. Below are some counter Redpill truths: ¶ Be Your Best Self Michelangelo’s David started out as a chunk of marble, but through hard labor, vision and determination was made into perhaps one of the best known works of art in history. The idea behind being your best self, is to put work in to improve your self in life. The position being that we are all born as something, it is what we do with it that matters. Many men can be described as objects at rest in a vacuum, they remain inert until acted upon by an external force. The major difference in mindset between the blue pill and the red pill in this regard, is that while the blue pill judges you for lack of birth, the red pill judges you for lack of action. 11 Likes 3 Shares |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 7:26pm On Sep 28, 2020 |
Curvinus:Yea i noticed that too 1 Like |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 7:24pm On Sep 28, 2020 |
Curvinus:You are welcome bro. Your imput is succinct. |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 7:19pm On Sep 28, 2020 |
¶ It is What You Can Do For Others Blue Pill encourages that men put off their own life and pleasures in order to enable same pleasures for those around them, especially women. This is a contributing factor for Putting Women On Pedestal. ¶ Men and Women are the Same This is a fairly recent addition to the framework, having been added in less than 100 years or so. If one goes back to previous generation , one would find that the accepted cultural and social narrative was that the two sexes are different from each other in meaningful ways. The mantra that we are the same can take both soft forms and hard forms. The soft form being “ Men and women are equal but different” and the hard form “ Genders are social constructs “. In many ways this began when it became common to conflate equality of worth, meaning that all humans are of equal value in the form of their humanity, with “ all humans are identical in ability “. The extreme position being a case where the person accepts that humans are a species characterized by sexual dimorphism, yet that the very hormones and genetics that cause this dimorphism does not affect the brain. 5 Likes 3 Shares |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 7:10pm On Sep 28, 2020 |
¶ The End-State is a Monogamous Relationship with Children and a Job While reproduction is why we are on this earth as a species, our cardinal purpose so to speak. The conflation of long-term relationships with reproduction is a social and cultural one. One can reproduce outside of a relationship, and one can be in a relationship without children. The narrative is that you are not an adult unless you are married with children, other arrangements may not apply. A man who lives his life as a carefree bachelor is often referred to as “ prolonging adolescence “, "incomplete man" a “ man-boy ” or various other shaming statements to make him conform and “ man up and marry that slut “. I refer to this as the Bachelors Dilemma. This is promoted as the ideal arrangement for humans. 7 Likes 4 Shares |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 7:04pm On Sep 28, 2020 |
¶ The Right Partner Exists Perhaps the most outrageous fallacy of the blue pill mindset is the belief that there is exactly one “ soul-mate ” out there for every human. This promotes an unhealthy perspective that one should expect to find a perfect partner, but in collusion with the “ A relationship is easy with the right person ” it creates a problem. It promotes the idea that there is a single person out there that is perfect, and for men with a tendency to pedestalize and idealize women, especially in the initial stages of a relationship, creates situations that are easy to enter but difficult to leave. The belief that one has found the perfect woman, puts a man in a position wherein he may put up with increasing levels of poor behavior without consequence, after all she is his one, and therefore there is nobody else out there for him. 7 Likes 3 Shares |
| Romance › Re: The Red Truth by Dpsychologist(op): 7:01pm On Sep 28, 2020 |
¶ Just Be Yourself This is somewhat of the core promise within the Blue Pill framework, the Universe has done all the hard work to plan out how your life will go, you just need to show up for it. Just being yourself is somewhat of a weird idea, seeing as most of us change throughout our lives as a function of our experiences. It also brings up a string of questions related to, when, where and how. This is a thumbs up for complacency and lack of ambition. ¶ A Relationship is Easy with The Right Person What this assumption states is that if a relationship is successful then you did well in selecting your partner and you can commend yourself on a job well done. If however, your relationship fails, it means that you obviously did not pick the right partner and thus you should get back out there to actually find the right partner. It is a scenario wherein the person is to blame for picking the wrong partner, but also blamed if they fail to find their right partner. This puts a person in a limbo. In addition it also promote an unrealistic view of a relationship, which is always hard work. This is an insidious belief, because it tells both parties in the relationship that once you are with the “ right person ” you can stop being the person that originally attracted them and “ just be yourself “. 7 Likes 3 Shares |
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