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Pre-wall women and when they hit the wall.
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Women before they hit the wall and when they have hit the wall.
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The Wall revisited The wall is the point in a woman 's life when she is no longer highly desired (sexually) by men. It is when she is no longer "hot", indicated by the decrease in her physical attractiveness, evidenced by a dramatic fall-off in approaches by men, lower expressed sexual interest by men, and fewer compliments from men - offline and online. When a woman "hit the wall" or reaches the age when her physical attractiveness decreases, her SMV drops significantly, usually in her late twenties and early 30s. It is called The Wall because of the effect felt by women is like having their face being hit by a wall. Alternatively, the wall is a point in a woman's life where her ego and self-assessed view of her SMV exceed her actual sexual marketplace value. When she hits The Wall , she still feels entitled to the attention she received pre-Wall (when she was on her sexual peak). It is often a startling and frightening experience for women when they realize they can no longer automatically win interest from men. This usually occurs as a wake-up shock to women when they realize that their power over men was temporary and that their looks are fading. This usually results with first denial and then a sudden change in priority towards looking for a husband. Even after hitting the wall, many women will squander a few more precious years testing her SMV with alphas to double-check, hoping her perceived decline was a fluke, this will make her even more bitter when she finally has to settle for a worse- beta than she could have gotten before because of squandering her youth. |
More on epiphany phase The reason it’s called the epiphany phase, is because this is the time in a woman’s life when she realizes that her sexual market value has been in steady decline . She suddenly comes to the realization that she is struggling to compete with “younger, hotter, tighter”, and the men she could have easily had only a few years ago are not showing the same level of interest. Thus, she changes her market strategy to appeal to “ The Good Men “, those men of whom she said “You will make a great husband” , “ Why are you single ” and “ You are such a great friend“. Those men, who while she was busy doing body shots, partying and enjoying her sexual self-discovery, got a degree, a professional job and built a capacity to provide. This is how the transition starts. Her desire for men who are exiting, confident, aloof, impulsive, aggressive, dominant, direct and disagreeable, remain her preference for short trysts however for the first time in her life the men who are stable, relaxed, a bit more neurotic, attentive, predictable, laid back, cooperative, indirect and agreeable become visible to her. Men who can provide for her long term well-being through stable incomes, personalities and preferences. Those men, whom to her younger self would have scarcely made a blip on her radar suddenly send up warning lights and sirens, she finds herself drawn to them. |
Age 40 Post-wall woman The milk is curdled. Nobody wants it. Women’s smv crashes at age 40 as their youth is gone, their looks without applying a cake of makeup are fading, and even with makeup it becomes increasingly difficult to hide all the lines, growing clearer with each passing year. This is referred to as a post wall woman. The female window of fertility is gone at age 40 without the manipulation of a medical professional, and even then reproduction is very risky(menopause). Beyond emotional manipulation and financial demands, the female has nothing much to offer a man by age 40. Man The wine still tastes great and lots of young women want a sip. Just as simple grapes can mature into the most incredible wines, so can men undergo incredible transformations. Men’s SMV continues at its peak for as much as another decade, assuming he has taken care of himself and his life. The man with options will be able to get women at least 10 to 20 years younger than himself. He should also not allow himself to be “shamed” for maximizing the utility he has worked hard for when selecting a mate. |
Age 35 Woman The milk is sour. Her hopes for having a family, the fancy wedding and the princess palace are either driving her mad or she has quietly resigned to the fact she will never live the Disney fantasy. She has likely accrued a lot of baggage (possibly a few Alpha bad boy kids) that she wants Beta provider money to cover. Man Meanwhile , the wine has never tasted better. It is rich and complex with its many flavors. Predatory Females increasingly want to take advantage of him, as he is a very promising meal ticket, hoping to exchange their worn out, and increasingly infertile anatomy to take his wealth, status, and power away from him. It worked in the past, but doesn’t work so well now that the milk has soured. No, only younger, thinner, firmer women are appealing to him. She wants to use his wealth, status, and power for herself. But, he’s too smart to fall for that and is not the desperate for sex young man he once was. His power is peaking now, and if he has paid any attention to the lessons life has taught him or been a student of Game, the 35-year old man who looks 25 because he has taken care of himself is dating chicks that are at least 10 years younger than him. |
PHASE 3: EPIPHANY PHASE Age 30 Woman The milk has an odor, but it hasn’t completely soured. Just the psychological impact alone of reaching the big 3-0 is enough to make women immediately start lowering their expectations. Suddenly, that guy she went to high school with who was invisible to her back then doesn’t look so bad anymore, especially since he has a job and resources she can consume to power her materialistic lifestyle. And the bad boys, well, they were a lot of fun but they have left her worn physically and psychologically through waves of pumps and dumps. The ravages of spreading her legs for so many guys are rapidly decreasing her SMV and burning her out psychologically as she is discarded after each trip around the carousel, as is the aging process. The biological clock starts ticking, and she goes into a panic mode if her family is asking: When are you going to give us a grandchild? She starts thinking this career isn’t everything it was cracked up to be. She is now mature and still unable to get a lifetime commitment as such will try to stay away from playboys. She then starts giving nice beta males attention and when in r/ship she will tell him no sex before marriage that although she is not a virgin but she has repented. She now realises that the playboys are not Husband material and not ready for marriage now she starts going for responsible guys, the guys she doesn’t love but who are capable of taking care of her and give her life time commitment. Man Meantime, the wine is just starting to develop a rich taste as it ages.. By age 30, he has laid the foundation for a lucrative career and is starting to feel his own power. This power was not given to him by nature, as was the case with the female. This famous quote applies: A woman simply is, but a man must become . He has to earn every bit of it. So with his newfound power comes a humility that the female did not have when she was given her powers by merely reaching the age of sexual maturity. |
Age 25-30: Young woman The milk, while still creamy and fresh, starts to show the first signs that it might not always taste so sweet as women pass the age of 25. The Wall starts to come into view at this time. She can no longer go around without her face being emboldened with make up. Her breasts, while still firm and high are showing some signs they might someday begin to droop. Her butt is also threatening a similar betrayal. Depending on the amount of drinking, smoking, drug use, and carousel riding she has indulged in. She gets into panic mode at the realization that her power is not going to last forever sets because these indulgences speed up the aging process. Young Man Meanwhile, the wine is just beginning to age. The young man, still learning through life experience about women’s dual mating strategy and the pain of being either ignored or used and abused by women, as well as being tormented by nearly a decade of frustration, is starting to realize the Disney fantasies sold to him about women is a total hogwash. While she has peaked her SMV and it's gradually declining, the man’s SMV is just beginning to ascend assuming he exercises , eats right, and invests in himself and his own personal development. |
PHASE 2: EXPERIENTIAL/ENTITLEMENT PHASE Age 16-24: A lady Experiential phase is that phase she sees a meteoric rise in the attention she receives from young men. The constant release of endorphins from the attention she receives clouds her judgment and puffs her ego. The milk is delicious and fresh, so naturally everyone wants a taste. She often uses her newfound power to torment Betas and lower young men , playing with their emotions as she dangles her sexuality over them. This is the phase you see her rolling with sugar daddies, big boys or men their 30s. She can make Beta males do anything, and indeed a number of them orbit around her. These are not the men who are rewarded with sex. She saves that for men who treat her poorly or other men she sees as dominant. The well-documented female preference for Dark Triad traits: Machiavellianism, narcissism, and psychopathy is in full effect at this age. This is the stage of hedonism (pleasure) where she goes clubbing, parties, and try to experiment. She will jump from one dick to another assuming she is not from a strict home or being monitored. A guy On the male side, the grapes are just being harvested and crushed. At age 16-24 he is far from being the refined wine he will be someday. While legally a man, the male undergoes another decade of psychological maturation according to philosophers like the great Schopenhauer. There are lots of bumps and bruises ahead if the young man is not guided by a wise older man who knows the merciless mating game, or taken it upon himself to learn about women. He is subject to all sorts of manipulation, and indeed many young men become walking wallets and doormats for women at this age. By following the path less taken and learning the harsh reality about women, he can save himself a lot of hard knocks in the ruthless mating game. |
LIFE OF A MAN AND A WOMAN PHASE 1: Enlightened phase Girlhood The moment a girl enters puberty, she begins to discover changes in her body. The presence of estrogen fuels her feminine Characteristics such as development of breast, growth of pubic hair, her voice becomes softer. She experiences her first menses(menarche). All this looks strange to her. However, with her mom by her side she is guided on what to do and if possible teachers and pears. Her mom then tells her the inner workings of a woman. She is special and men should treat her right, that she will marry one day and her Husband provides for her. She also observes her parents life. How her father hustle for money for the family. If she needs money, her mom sends her to her dad. Gradually she starts seeing the advantage of being a woman. As little as she is, she will start demanding money from boys to buy sachet water or buns and she is given. If she is very pretty, boys treat her preferentially(even small boys know what beauty and attraction is). As she proceeds in her adolescent age her breast becomes bigger and she gradually starts developing hips and curves. She starts getting compliment from her classmate, older guys, men etc. It usually get worst when she is in SS1 she is now a big girl. This is where some ladies lose their virginity. Some ladies are lucky enough to escape this since they are still under their parents. Boy hood Just as a girls body changes in puberty same happens to a man but differently due to presence of testosterone. In this case his voice becomes deeper, pubic and axillary hair begins to grow, in general he becomes boisterous. However, i noticed that men fill shy to tell boys anything during puberty as such the boy is left to discover to discover it himself. Due to the nature of jobs, the influence of his mother while growing up is more pronounced. However, most men are simp fathers so no better influence on the child. He only talks to him about books, hardwork, etc nothing about women for he himself is clueless. Even if he gives advice it still won't be much of help. As such the child starts simping, his female classmate will collect his money. |
Women have enormous power over men in their nubile prime, roughly from age 18-25. In the past, this would have been put to use creating the next generation of men and women and forming a strong family. Today, this window of beauty and fertility is typically wasted away on carousel riding. Many young men are totally invisible when women are in their prime. However, nature is not without a sense of justice and a sense of irony. For the situation reverses as men and women age. One timeless pieces of wisdom from the manosphere summarizes this process well, in all its politically incorrect glory: Men age like wine, women age like milk. Think of women having an expiration date, just like milk. They become wrinklier, saggier, and often fatter as time goes on, especially if she is into the recreational eating phenomenon of the west(chocolates, hamburger) . This phenomenon is known as The Wall. Once a woman has hit The Wall, men will privately say to each other: Back then, I used to go to school with her and she was hot. But now I see her and I just feel sorry for her. Like a milk gets sour. Women try to hold on to their beauty and youth, from which springs all their power, only to watch all three fade as the aging process set in. Below, i will go indept into typical(prototype) life of a man and a woman in the 21st century : |
52.) WINE AND MILK Women’s power in the sexual market lasts about 10-15 years when not supported by makeup, and prosthetics. — Dpsychologist Damn! The firm breasts, luscious thighs, thick and plump ass of a 20 year old. The female body is simply a wonder of nature and a work of art to behold. A woman at her sexual peak is like a ripe piece of fruit just waiting to be tasted. Few can resist the temptation, even though tasting the fruit comes at an enormous price for a man. However, this isn’t a station in life or a position of power that lasts forever. women realize this power early in life only to see it completely disappear by the time they’re middle-aged. Their body betrays them, and male attention shifts elsewhere. |
Lets roll |
How sure can he even be |
Joskiro50:Thats abundance mentality at Work bro. You did well just know when to bring it down. |
It is not your purview as a man to respect women. Respect has to do with submission and adoration. If you respect women, you are being submissive and adoring women. Thus it is only a woman’s duty to respect men. Dpsychologist: |
Newman20:Lol i was just being sarcastic ![]() Simping is a Blue Pill Conditioning. If you check my posts on blue pill/red pill dichotomy. You will see that our society encourages simping. When men simp around it is not just beneficial to women but also to the society. |
Pstarogood0100:Nice inputs bro Cheers! |
Pstarogood0100:What you said is a great prognosis. However, Lets see how the future unfolds. |
Newman20:Thanks bro. You are highly welcome here. |
flyingpig:Yea the truth will always set you free. |
Newman20:The cartoon has explained it all. Thanks for that |
badaoyeyemi:Glad this is coming from a lady. |
CosmicPhoenix:Of course masculinity /femininity in women goes beyond beyond looks. There are women with masculine behaviors For example, angelina jolie. |
This is the feminine advantage. Her fame is enough to get her anything she wants. |
Wizpa:Women are always shouting upandan that men see them as sex object. However, they also see us as "money objects".
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ogbonti:Amen o |
EdCure:She is eating her cake and the same time having it |
Summary It is man’s responsibility to lead, and woman’s to follow, for man is drawn to feminine submission in much the way woman is drawn to masculine dominance. This basic premise is itself the very basic building block on which attraction is formed, and whether knowingly or unknowingly to those involved, all healthy, happy relationships operate upon this very foundation. To associate masculine dominance with oppression is being ignorant of the functional order between man and woman. However, it is with the great sadnesses we see such an idea adopted worldwide . |
Moulding a woman A woman is to be moulded, a man is to mould. If a man is to find a woman when she is young, he can craft her into the woman he wants her to be( young women are pliable). The man must act upon and mould a woman more than she does him, for if the woman is to act upon and mould the man, she will create something she finds abhorrent. Simply put, a woman will mould a man into someone she despises, but a man will mould a woman into someone he loves. Women of quality are made A good woman is the handiwork of great men, ideally well-raised by a strong father, but at the very least young and receptive to dominant, masculine governance. A woman cannot, try as she may, become the embodiment of what a man wants without her chosen partner having a hand. In the absence of a strong male figure in her life, she will in all likelihood fall prey to predacious dogma and destroy herself. |
Women are like fluid By now you should be privy to the fact that women are more easily influenced by their nation’s culture, religion, family, and immediate surroundings than are men. Yes, men are likewise influenced by these things, however, women are on the whole more easily influenced. What is the reasoning behind this? It comes down to women’s greater need for approval, a ability to be more fluid in character(section 1) as a form of adaptation and also a diminished capacity / desire to employ logic. |
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