₦airaland Forum

you neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeddd to see this! https://www.nairaland.com/1792309/how-successfully-negotiate-lower-prices

you neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeddd to see this! https://www.nairaland.com/1792309/how-successfully-negotiate-lower-prices

you neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeddd to see this! https://www.nairaland.com/1792309/how-successfully-negotiate-lower-prices

1k001: generally good advise however regarding offers,

you need to make the first offer.

If you do your homework right, you'll know exactly to pitch it below where would be acceptable.

Whoever makes the first offer usually gets a better deal

This is however not true in salary negotiations where the employer should always be made to make an initial offer

abt d salary part do u mean..when the employee is abt to b employed?

The idea of negotiating can be intimidating. As consumers, we have been
trained to pay the price marked on goods or services without question. If we
feel the price is too high, we abandon the sale and look for cheaper options.
It’s an option that seems to work for us. But it could work better. We don’t
always realize we have the option to negotiate a lower price. To get the lowest
price out of a transaction, you need to follow some rules that aren’t always
easy.
Rules of Successful Negotiation
1. Do Your Homework
You need to know some important things about the service or product you
want to buy before you begin negotiations:
How Much Do Competitors Charge? If you can tell the seller you know the
item is available for a lower price, it puts a lot of pressure on them to lower
their offer. Furthermore, it lets you know that you don’t have to accept
the seller’s offer. You can walk away from negotiations and still get what
you want.
What Is the Cost to Your Seller? It’s useful to know the margin between the
seller’s costs and asking price, especially when buying a new car . Research
the invoice price that new car dealers pay the manufacturer – then you
know the absolute lowest that they can go and still turn a profit.
Is the Seller Facing a Deadline? If a seller has to get rid of a product
before a deadline, they are more motivated to sell at a lower price. Making
money on the deal may not be the most important goal when a deadline is
involved, as the consequences of waiting too long could be costly. Home sellers
often have a deadline, as they may need to sell their property by a deadline
so they can purchase another for which they are under contract.
Why Is Your Seller Selling? You don’t always buy from a business –
sometimes you negotiate with sellers who aren’t even most concerned about
making money. For example, someone who is moving may be willing to accept
a very low offer for a large piece of furniture, just to be rid of it. Knowing
why an item is for sale can give you an idea of how much money you need to
pay.
2. Make the Other Side Name a Price First
By allowing the other side to name its price first, you may get a chance to
counter with a number that is lower than what you would have offered
initially – even if you do relinquish the opportunity to set the “price anchor,”
which is the starting price point from which it can be hard to move. Of
course, the initial price named by the seller may anchor you at a higher price,
and this is where doing your homework can help. By knowing the competing
prices, you may be able to significantly lower your anchor before negotiations
start.
Michael Soon Lee, president of EthnoConnect and author of “Black Belt
Negotiating,” is adamant about this point. He says naming a price first limits
how low you can go in negotiations – even if you’re trying to establish a low
anchor. After that, every counteroffer will be higher.
Lee states that you shouldn’t ever name a price. Once you do, the seller could
agree to it and end negotiations – and it’s possible that the seller would have
been willing to go lower.
3. Don’t Be Reasonable
The classic model of negotiation is that two parties offer different prices,
eventually settling somewhere in the middle. Lee rejects that because the
middle is too high of a price.
If you are going to make the first offer or name a price in a counteroffer,
make it ridiculously low. Not only does it set the price anchor very low, but it
puts the seller on the defensive. If they have a negotiating plan, it’s unlikely
they will follow it after a ridiculous offer. They instead focus on getting a
price higher than what you offer, and not what they want. The end result is
a much lower price than what is considered reasonable.
This can be difficult advice to follow, as you may be afraid of being
considered a jerk. Many sellers know that ridiculous offers are part of the
negotiating process and are very unlikely to refuse to make the sale. Instead,
they’re going to counter.
Furthermore, studies show that when faced with a ridiculous offer or
counteroffer, a negotiator gains satisfaction from getting concessions from
the other party. Therefore, if you offer $1,000 for that high-mileage used
car in need of a brake job, the seller will feel like they won something by
convincing you to buy it for $1,200 – even if it was worth more money than
that.
It’s up to you to decide what is more important. Do you want to be liked, or do
you want to save a lot of money? Remember, the two options aren’t
necessarily mutually exclusive. You may not be judged as harshly as you think,
and paying a reasonable price doesn’t really make you more likeable.
4. Know the Limit
You need to gauge what is important to the seller. If they need to make a
certain amount of money, they’re not going to budge. While you’re not trying
to be reasonable, you need to let the seller walk away feeling they got
something out of the deal.
As mentioned before, knowing a car dealer’s invoice price is powerful
information. You know the truth when a dealer counters your offer with “I
can’t go any lower.” Of course, while offering an extremely low price may
work as an anchoring tactic, be prepared to settle for a price that allows the
seller to make money.
5. Be Quiet
Silence between two people can be uncomfortable, and you can use that to
your advantage after someone names a price. Instead of responding, look
thoughtful without saying anything. This makes the seller fill the silence, and
often, he or she will try to justify the offer. Let them keep talking and feel
insecure. If you need to fill the silence, express hesitation about paying their
price.
6. Ask for Extras
This is an important tactic to employ when you feel like you’re not getting
anywhere. Maybe you can get accessories included with the purchase, or
perhaps the seller will be willing to include some other low-cost items to make
a sale on a large-margin item. For instance, cell phone providers make their
money on long-term contracts. To motivate you, they may be willing to supply
extras, such as phone cases or car chargers.
When the seller agrees to your target price, as it may be the lowest they can
go, it’s time for you to see what else you can get for that price.
7. Walk Away
This is perhaps the most powerful tactic you have. In this economy, very few
businesses can afford to lose a sale, and are afraid to let someone walk away
without making a purchase. Above all, this gives you the upper hand in the
negotiations.
Sometimes, just heading for the door or verbally ending negotiations is enough
to motivate a lower offer. Even if you walk out the door, the seller may bring
you back in or call you if you leave contact information. It’s an extreme
tactic, but it can work.
However, the problem is that once you walk away, it is very difficult to go
back. If the seller has a unique product and you have no other options, you
can’t go to someone else. If you return after walking away, the power shifts
to the seller. They will know you’re motivated to buy from them, and they
don’t need to make any major concessions. Therefore, only utilize this tactic if
you are willing to simply not make the purchase.
Final Word
Remember, it’s important to avoid trying to negotiate when you are faced
with a deadline, as deadlines can motivate you to make concessions on price. So
don’t wait until the last minute to start searching for a new car, a house, or
any other negotiable item you need in the foreseeable future. A tight
deadline can eliminate your opportunity to negotiate the lowest price, so give
yourself plenty of time to shop around and play hardball with the seller.
Are you comfortable making aggressive offers when negotiating? http://www.moneycrashers.com/successfully-negotiate-lower-prices/

[quote author=colo$$u$]It's flavour not favor [/quote]lol drink responsibly

3rd to comment sha

space booked

justwise: [/b]

I don't get other aspect of my life involved with nairaland outside here. I like to keep everything open here to avoid all sorts of false allegations.

oo why wud i do that...i actually need help not to make trouble..its okay though

@Bnbarbie what is the age for getting a child custody order in nigeria

justwise: You messed up your application with some false info, i think they let you out 10yrs ban because of your age.

The letter from your school saying that your uncle started taking care of you from 2006 but that contradict your own statement.

Death certificate 3yrs after the death?

It gives the impression that the 'uncle' story is made-up one.

Please if you are 17 as you said then continue with your education in Nigeria for now, because of the way your recent application went, getting a UK visa in the nearest future will be hard only if there is significant change in your situation..e.g you graduated and got a good job, got married etc. Don't try another trick to get UK visa for now else you are likely to land 10yrs ban.

the part of my uncle being my guardian from 2006-2013 meant he was responsible for everything concerning schooling..then when my parents died, they read d will and my dad wrote that my uncle should be my guardian. speaking about the mails, i only use mail to talk to them about school fees and some other matters...but if they need phone records im sure i have a lot of them which cove every month of the year. justwise, are you on any another social platform so i can get my responses quick so that i dont get refused again...just message the name or pin or whatsapp number please...thank u

Vicjustice: You are ineligible to apply for a Dependant Visa or for a Family Union Visa under an "uncle" who does not have the legal rights of custody over you: your "uncle" should have processed the formal documents in Nigeria and then legalised it with the UK authority (while you were under 16), and that will give him the legal rights to be your official guardian.

i made d application when i was 16

worry 359: Tell us your REAL age, then we may advise.

im 17.. and i jst checked the countries dat their custody order is valid in the uk and nigeria is not in the list...i need help please

Dramadiddy: what if im over 16 and is that d only wrong to correct?

what if im over 16 and is that he only wrong to corect pls vic reply before my uncle gets to submit d appeal form so i can tell him

sunnychic: Thanks dramadiddy.

What I mean is after they have returned the spouse's documents to him in UK, how long does the passport take to get to Nigeria for collection?

well shouldnt take up to 3weeks...mine took like two weeks and its settlement too...just pray its successful..goodluck

Vicjustice: Even if you have every documentary evidence that you are related to this "uncle" and even if his responsibilities and providences for your welfare are documented, the visa officer still has a hundred and one reasons to refuse your application.
You "uncle" needs to have the guardian clearance which is (state approved) legal custody rights over you who must not be older than 16

what if im over 16 and is that d only wrong to correct?

sunnychic: Good evening all,


Pls what is the time frame between the spouse getting their document back and VFS calling for passport collection @ settlement visa

10am-3pm

Vicjustice: Even if you have every documentary evidence that you are related to this "uncle" and even if his responsibilities and providences for your welfare are documented, the visa officer still has a hundred and one reasons to refuse your application.
You "uncle" needs to have the guardian clearance which is (state approved) legal custody rights over you who must not be older than 16

okay so what if im older than 16 and is that the only thing i need??

Please guys, I need ur advice on what to do on this... you have applied to join Mr. A, whom you state is your uncle in the uk in support of your application. You have provided birth certificates, death certificates, photographs, school records and copies of emails. You state that your parents died in 2010 and since then you have been living with Mr. A's cousin. There is nothing to show that Mr. A has had day to day responsibility for you. You need to demonstrate that he provides you with all the emotional, financial and other needs which you may and do have that he can and does exercise full control over the major aspects of your life, such as schooling, religion, medical care, etc. Although you have provided school documents that your fees have been paid and letters from you to Mr. A thanking him for paying your fees, there is no evidence that he actually paid them. The letter from your school states that Mr. A has been your guardian all through 2006-2013, however you state that your parents died in June 2010 and that Mr. A became your guardian after that date. You have stated in your form that you keep in touch with Mr. A and his wife through via phone calls and emails. You have provided copies of emails from you to his wife but these are few in number and only cover the periods nov-dec 2012 and june-august 2013. You have provided a birth certificate for yourself dated October 23, 2013 and death certificates for your parents dated 02 October 2013. Your birth certificate has been produced over 16 years since the date of your birth and death certificates have been produced over 3 years since the date of your parent's death. As such, I consider these to be self serving documents and am not satisfied that you are related to Mr. A as claimed. Having considered all of this, i am not satisfied that Mr. A has had sole responsibilty for your upbringing. I therefore refuse your application under paragrph 297(i)(e) of the immigration rules.



You have provided no detail or evidence or your current care arangements in Nigeria. You state that you have been living with Mr. A's cousin since the death of your parents in 2010. You state that this cousin is married and you can no longer stay with them. Due to the lack of evidence of this arrangement, and the above stated concerns about your relationship with Mr. A, I am not satisfied that there are serious and compelling family or other considerations which make your exclusion undesirable and that suitable arrangements have been made for your care. I therefore refuse your application under paragraph 297(i)(f) of the immigration rules.


Please can you help point out the reasons they refused the application because there are many things written and I don't which is correct or wrong. Please thanks

morning guys....pls if u made ur application in lagos nd ups tried deliverin ur package nd failed..where do dey return d package back to..is it lagos or abuja?

pls guys who can give me directions to vfs ikeja if im goin from oshodi..pls anyone...thanks a bunch

Vicjustice: I did understand you, and the question still is:
What sort of prayer that would change an already made decision?
Or hasn't the visa officer made the decision yet?

anythn is possible

Vicjustice: I did understand you, and the question still is:
What sort of prayer that would change an already made decision?
Or hasn't the visa officer made the decision yet?

anythn is possible ooo

Vicjustice: What sort of prayer that would change an already made decision?

i mean pray its successful u didnt get me

wow...jst tracked my application now and they said processed application delivered on ups..guys pray for me ooo pls...i ll let u guys know when i go to d vac...omg!!!!

zabrinma: @justwise... thanx bro but please just to clear my curiosity, why did they wrote me a decision has been made when they know its not yet by vfs they really confuse me with their first line in the mail.thanx

maybe they mean deyve made their decision but its nt ready for pickup...if thats d case u can wait jst a week more u will eceive ur package

unix, linux nd oracle

[quote author=Dis Guy][/quote]tourist visa applications r plenty in nigeria theyre in their thousands...i fink its still nrmal for u to wait

zabrinma: @Dramadiddy....thanx bro will check on google and will update the house,but one last question its been a month and a week since I submitted my application, is that normal to take that long even dough its peak month as its Christmas.

what kind of application did u make?

zabrinma: bro please where and who is sheffield cause am writing from ghana and here its
Vfs and the British high commission only I know of. Thanx

ohh...i thought u were nigerian..sheffield onli attends to applications frm nigeria canada nd u.s...u can check gooogle or check ur courier receipt dere shd b a mail address for enquiries