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In my view, yes if they are not in a position of authority within the church. The Bible is clear on requirements for such roles.

Sending them away is akin to divorce which is also a sin.

Then state the bloody price!!

This is what I was trying to explain to someone on another thread. It is embarrassing to the government that such a thing could happen. The people involved should be ashamed.

ablejesus26:
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Seun
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Mukina 
Dominique

You allow this guy, Throwback, Seunmsg1, Helinus, Golan007 and other shameless tribalist freely spread their hate here unchecked but ban people who call them out.

Shame on you all 😁.

Use the reporting feature rather than insinuating the above. Every post I have reported has been dealt with.

Image123:
Here they are below. i don't understand how to justify these. The police can't just give them candies. These are the same types of people used as mob in the North. They would kill you without batting an eyelid when told to. They are not children for God's sake.

A leader would seek to understand what has made them behave this way? What you do is find a way to push back on the brainwashing. Punishing them reinforces that brainwashing.

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Okay, have they been sentenced mercilessly? Their case is still in court with the judiciary not the executive. They are simply victims, with every other person in police custody, of Nigeria's slow and cumbersome legal system. There are many innocent people in police detention for years waiting for sentencing. It has little or nothing to do with the present government or age of the criminal.

My posts have been focused on the judiciary and the police force. It is not a good look for Nigeria that kids are being arraigned or even accused. If this should get out there - it will be difficult for Nigeria to justify arresting minors in this particular case especially knowing that life is a lot tougher for people.

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You are right about optics and politics. Our law enforcement is messed up from decades. Minors can't just go Scot free for being minors. We have many minors as foot soldiers in the North especially, committing all kinds of crimes from bandits to herdsmen to boko haram to religious murderers and jungle justice. Are you saying all these crimes should be overlooked once they are minors involved or what? What part of the universe allows people go Scot free because they are minors? If you are asking for juvenile protection in their judgment and punishment, i understand. But scot free, mbah no capital NO.

Read my posts carefully. Mercy can mean giving other forms of punishments. Asking a minor to pay 10m as bail meanwhile a senior member of the legislative who committed a crime in public was charged 500k as bail makes our judiciary look silly. And yes in some countries, children are treated with love and understanding that it is better to educate and rehabilitate them. I will summarise, for those who are minors - I would advise for them to be treated differently. If what I have read is true, Tinubu is on the same page as above. You shouldn't be punishing a kid the same way you punish an adult.

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Mercy comes at a cost, a high cost of Jesus paying the ransom, or mercy for the merciful. You probably have not seen a mob before, maybe you will have a different opinion apart from seeing pictures of hungry people. Everyone in police custody is malnourished and hungry, perhaps we should have mercy on them all and release our prisons to show some godliness. Life doesn't work that way brother.

That is why it is mercy and why wise people know how to use. There is always a cost to mercy as a parent, as a leader, as someone who has been wronged. No one is arguing the kids haven't done something wrong. What is been said is temper justice with mercy. For there to be mercy, there has to have been something done wrong. Life does work that way. As a parent, I know when to show mercy to my kids. As a leader within my space, I know when to show mercy to those who if justice was applied would be punished.

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How many minors do you know there, because they are all being lumped together in the pity narrative. i didn't see where or who accused them of treason, maybe the people pouring their frustrations on Tinubu accused them of treason in their WhatsApp groups. The news reports i read was about attacking and injuring police officers, accused of burning police stations, the High Court Complex, and the Nigerian Communications Commission (NCC) Complex during the End Bad Governance protests.

I will repeat my foundational statement. My comment has nothing to do with the protesters but the minors. As long as there is one minor in there, the comment stands. It is ridiculous to arrest a minor and charge them for the crimes mentioned. You can deal with them via other means. A wise leader would manage this differently. It is not good optics which is why Tinubu has requested the AGF to look into this. Do you think anyone here is going to care about the Nigerian Police Force after this silly show of dealing with minors? I for one have resolved that I will not go out of my way to help any police officer.

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They are hungry stricken because everyone in police detention is hungry stricken regardless of age. Should every criminal in Nigeria be released already because they are hungry stricken? What crime is exactly a crime in this country, because everything somehow gets a defense from the people.

A mark of a good leader is one that knows how to show mercy. The best example is our father in heaven, we deserve deaths by the law due to our sins. However his son died for our sins and as such gave a route for him to show mercy to those who ask for it by accepting this price and acknowledging that Jesus is the way to heaven. There are examples of how wise leaders or people in authority use mercy. These are kids. Not all crime is the same. Kids carrying placards and protesting should not be jailed. Protests are not crimes. On the charge of treason, is the Nigerian Police force ok? They are charging kids with treason.

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They are not all minors, are they? Can a minor be arrested for banditry, kidnapping or boko haram terrorism?

I am specific on the minors. I am not specific on the protesters. Not all the protesters are minors.

What I do know is charging any protester for treason is wrong. Protests are not riots. It is a right in democracy to protest.

The below is specific to the new PAYE tax.

Typically I would yab Taiwo and co but on the tax reform, after looking at the details. It is a better tax rate for people earning less than 50m per year. It is very rich people earning over 50m naira per month that will see their tax go up.

I advise people to check the numbers. The information is out there. The pushback is driven by those who will pay more. They are trying to lobby the govt.

There is no excuse for any minor to be accused of treason because of protests. That is a move that will make one lose points socially. It shows the lack of empathy and understanding but then again it is the Nigerian Police Force. They are not helping their reputation. Everyone involved in this should stop and think. From jailing them to asking them to post bail of 10m naira, that is just ridiculous. These were people under the age of 15. 15 years old!!

Okoroawusa:
All I have to say to you is that you keep your dollars outside the bank after those 9 months to find out the consequences.... please do that, okay?

We no dey make noise. This is not a joke.

And what exactly will be done? Raid people's homes? Your above post is not worth the calories used to type it.

Exceed15:
If they can't provide evidence and it's just based on gossip and rumors they should sue the church for defamation of character.

And they would lose in court ...

McLizbae:
So, on what basis were they suspended if there are no evidences yet?

That is in line with proper practices. I know we don't normally do such in Nigeria but this behaviour is correct to avoid use of authority to dissuade witnesses.

Eteka1:
I read somewhere that Fubara has launched a multi-billion Naira smear campaign that is targeted at the Judiciary and specific judges. The aim is to blackmail and intimidate the Judiciary to do his bidding.

Did you also read on that same site that the US wants to turn over Area 51 to Nigeria?

Illusioneffect:
Yes 👍 sex is healthier than masturbation also masturbation is not bad for your body in any way - you were just doing too much and watching porn and you got addicted to it instead of doing something more productive with your time. We're talking about a married woman who has been sex starved by her husband - she has two options - masturbation or disloyalty. Masturbation is better.

I think it is best I stop discussing this with you. Your statements are not based on experience. They are based on your projections. Have a good day.

BABANGBALI:
The lady is going to end up cheating with a pastor or a brother in her church or an ex. Let's stop deceiving ourselves. It's written all over her.

I pray she doesn't and that GOD grants her the strength and will power to overcome temptation. She is not in an enviable position with regards to sex life. She and her husband need to have a discussion on their sex life.

Illusioneffect:
💀💀💀💀 hold on - how does masturbation damage your body and 'hurt your future partner'? If masturbation damages your body - sex does the same thing, brother.
In hindsight, you're saying a woman's body doesn't belong to her but her husband - that's sexist and not true.
You could claim masturbation is a sin when you're not married but it is definitely not when you are.

You are projecting from a position of ignorance and lack of experience. You have also attempted in your ignorance to interpret my words in a wrong manner. Who said anything about a woman's body being her man or her own? I have spoken based on my own experience. I leave it to her to make her choice.

Have you masturbated in your life? Do you have experience of the effects? The answer is clearly no. I will wait for those who are willing to speak more of their experience to come and share.

Sex is far healthier for your body than masturbation. I would advise myself if I could go back in time to run away from masturbating.

Illusioneffect:
I have never even masturbated before and I'll never classify it as a sin because it isn't. Engaging in sexual activities when you're not married is wrong but when you're it's not- that's according to the Bible

In hindsight it is a sin as you are damaging your body and also hurting your future partner. It is not explicitly stated in the Bible as in 'Do not masturbate'. Take it from me - you are right to not do it. With experience I can tell you to treat it as sin. It affects your body mentally and physically.

Illusioneffect:
Have you used it on yourself before 👀👀👀 are you Gaybriel?

No I have not used tools but I have masturbated in the past. It took me some years to get over it especially once I started noticing the side effects but with GOD's grace I did.

As I mentioned the key question she is asking is about masturbation. Adult toys are tools to do such.

Also I hope you know that sex dolls are adult toys and that there are other types. Adult toys doesn't automatically mean Love Machine.

The question is should you masturbate? Adult toys is a tool.

Personal advice - I would not encourage it as it can affect you mentally and also your sensory organs.

egojeny1:
Go online and read about Mutual funds especially Money Market Fund or visit any Stanbic IBTC branch for enquiries.
It involves opening and funding an account and thereafter receiving interest(20% plus) on daily basis.
There are other investment houses that are into it too;
First Bank
Norrenberger
AIICO Insurance, etc but mine is with Stanbic IBTC

Good steer. One thing people need to understand is Risk. MMF is low risk. It doesn't mean you can't lose your Principal but the chance is very minimal hence the 'lower rate of return'.

Running a business in Nigeria is high risk. There is a high chance of losing your Principal but the return on your invested Principal can be very high if the business is successful.

Onyiridike:
If you don't have a skill in any business, invest the money in money market fund. Go for Stanbic IBTC or FBNQUEST. The return is about 20% per annum. Therefore, you stand to make ₦200,000 annually or ₦16,600 monthly.
This is better than risking your money in the hand of of today's get-rich-quick youths. They will run your money aground. Please, avoid the story that touches.

Good points.

riczy:
Can u explain further pls, this looks catchy

MMF is not consistent but it is not a scam. Returns often lag inflation. It is meant to be a wealth preserver for those who can't identify where to invest money safely at a period of time.

Advise improving your financial and estate management literacy. It is a topic not taught in school.

If I had a million naira now, I would consider MMF. If I am in a risky mood, I would invest in SEPLAT or some other company that is important for Nigeria to make money. Tinubu is really driving for Nigeria to improve its trade deficit.

NB I am not a financial advisor and neither is this advice compulsory. Key thing is to read and learn.

Jangbajantis:
Why?

Ancelotti is being forced to play him. Typically from either contract clause or Fiorentino's desire.

Madrid should never have bought Mbappe

Ermm tell her no

Can we stop giving Reno audience and clicks? Mods send this page away from here.

helinues:
Again, refuse the urge to shalaye, suggest how government can raise funds if they are not going to be borrowing unnecessarily

Government can aggressively drive down costs of governance. That was an expectation of the Tinubu government.

The heart of children contains foolishness at times and this is a good way to remove it.