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KnownUnknown:
Yes, and i wouldn’t be accused of stealing if stealing if I don’t understand the concept of stealing. A toddler sees candy on the table and reaches for it. The father says don’t eat it and leaves the room. The mother shows up and tells the toddler to eat the candy.

And the toddler says it's mummy who said I should eat it. Which is a great defence for mummy is equal to daddy. And of which a correct mumm comes to stand in her authority and rights in front of the child against daddy should daddy seek to prosecute the child.

So the case moves from the child to mummy's rights vs daddy's rights.

This is where the child needs mummy's rights to upheld so as to be a quited, as if she loses and is found to have no such rights (like a housegirl), then he is still liable, but he now stands "guilty with reason" which means mitigated punishment because mummy's rights is supposed to be protective unless she does not have it (maybe she's a wore/side chick - which means her rights are as full as that, if at all she has any)

And here, you see, the serpent had no such rights. Neither did you see him stand to defend and protect them, exactly how your classmates who told you to disobey daddy's orders of not touching his car cannot and will not protect you.

So, you see, as I told before no body can defend them.

Akinpedia:
You are 100% correct—the poor always pay the highest price in any conflict. We see it in Gaza, we see it in Northern Nigeria, and we see it everywhere.

But here is the bitter truth we are avoiding: The poor are ALREADY dying. > They are dying in hospitals that have no oxygen. They are dying on bad roads. They are dying of hunger because the economy has collapsed. The only difference is that religion makes this 'slow death' feel peaceful.

When you say the rich have their kids abroad, you’ve proven my point. The rich use Logic, Planning, and Money to secure their future, but they tell the poor to use Fasting, Prayer, and Endurance to survive theirs.

Why is it that the solution for the rich man is 'Migration' (Japa), but the solution for the poor man is 'Miracle'?

We don't necessarily need a bloody revolution, but we need a Mental Revolution. If the poor stop believing that their poverty is 'God's will,' they will start making better demands—even if it's just at the ballot box. Dying for a cause is scary, but dying slowly for nothing while 'giving thanks' is a tragedy.

I think play by play the poor are actually getting fine for funny the people I call poor, his children are finishing school, he now has a bike, one can see that something good has happened to them.

So, they already have the revolution they need for themselves

One beer truck was half sunk side ways day before yesterday in Ahor bypass and a fuel tanker went belly up yesterday on Benin Sagamu

KnownUnknown:
They also understood the concept of “eat the fruit”.

Sure.

Wheen you are told don't steal, you have also learnt that there is something called stealing. (Deepsight wanted to deny this at first only for him to confess it)

triplechoice:
Your statement is a direct contradiction and demonstrates a basic misunderstanding of literary terms.

A "figure of speech" is by definition not literal. That's what makes it a "figure of speech". If it were literal, it would be a straightforward description, not a figure.

It is you who fails to understand that all figures of speech are all based on the real natural and literal conducts and behaviour of humans. That is why we understand them very well and why they kick and jolt us in certain not explainable ways

KnownUnknown:
But I understood the concept of stealing and lying.

Just like they understood the concept of "do not eat the fruit"

Arda1000:
yawning

Ehen. Na, you are supposed to go and sleep. That is what happens to people they do not have any reasonable thing to say

KnownUnknown:
How can it be a law when they didn’t understand the concept of law? I mean, they weren’t even aware of their own unclothedness talk less of the concept of law.

They basically obeyed whoever spoke to them last.

Concept of law? Who cares about concept of law?

When your parents told you don't steal or lie, did you ask "concept of law" to understand it? No

Was it relevant? No.

When your parents first told you not to steal and lie, were you aware before that you would become a kleptomaniac and a patological liar? No

Was it relevant! No.

So, you don't have any reasonable thing to say on this issue

And this is of course you have moved past from "they had no understanding and judge necessity" to "understanding of concept of law".

Your changing the post means that you have moved from the case in view and that you are trying to testify, which you cannot do.

And your holding their post humourous brief is vain no one in the world can defend it

Akinpedia:
I completely understand the fear. When people are struggling to survive, they don't have the energy to fight Goliaths or risk being thrown into prison.

But this is exactly my point: Religion has become the 'safety valve' that prevents a revolution. > Instead of the poor organizing to demand better leadership, the 'merchants' tell them: 'Leave it for God,' 'Vengeance is the Lord’s,' or 'Pray for your enemies.' > If the poor are too afraid to challenge Wike or Gumi, it’s because religion has taught them that their only weapon is prayer. But while the poor are praying, these leaders are 'preying.'

We have spiritualized our oppression so much that we now see 'endurance' as a fruit of the spirit, when it is actually just a result of systemic trauma. If we keep saying 'it is well' while things are falling apart, the 'ruling bandits' will never stop, because they know the people have been sedated by their faith.

If there is a revolution, who is the first to die? The poor
Can the poor escape? No.
In the end of the revolution who is going to suffer after surviving? It is still the poor.

See Gaza, and Afghanistan now, who are those wailing? The poor.

It is now you appreciate why the rich have their kids abroad. It is for escape purposes. They know what must happen

judewrites:
Pastoral work has been abused by many in this country. So many false pastors.

A lot of fake pastors take advantage of their congregation spiritually, financially and sexually.

Even as a genuine pastor, you will be tempted to act likewise.

Genuine and fake pastor is different from temptation.

Temptation pertains to every soul whether genuine or fake.

But a genuine pastor is one who understands that he has no right to fall especially for sexual temptations.

Especially as he even is supposed to know that as soon as you declare in Truth that you are following God, that is when you would know that women are truly say tans kids as all of them would start opening their pantless legs and braless breas as they sex induce and silently invite you into falling into their deep pit.

sagenaija:
After the Applause: What the Church Should Have Done Instead
Applause is never neutral. It teaches. It signals approval. It shapes conscience. When a church applauds the public exposure of grave sin, it catechizes itself—silently but powerfully—into moral confusion.
What should have followed such a confession was not noise, but stillness.
Silence would have acknowledged the weight of sin. Prayer would have acknowledged the holiness of God. Tears would have acknowledged the damage done—to families, to consciences, to the witness of the church. Discipline would have acknowledged that leadership carries consequences, not privileges.
Instead, applause declared that honesty is more important than holiness, that emotion outweighs obedience, and that reputation matters more than righteousness.
Sobriety is not cruelty. It is clarity. A sober church knows that forgiveness does not erase responsibility, and grace does not cancel consequences. Restoration is a process, not a moment, and leadership is not restored by confession alone.
When applause fills the room, it leaves no space for repentance to do its deeper work.
The church must relearn how to respond to sin biblically. Not with outrage, not with entertainment, but with fear of God, humility, and truth. Until then, applause will continue to drown out the very seriousness that repentance requires.
Heaven does not clap at exposed sin. It calls for repentance. The church must decide whose response it will imitate.

Ah! The church must be in rage.

They all do the same, and in fact that is why he is their pastor.

If he was a pastor truly serving God his church would be empty.

This one was even avoidable. The driver just wanted to torment other road users with my car Sabi speed. And this time, it did not work

KnownUnknown:
What do you mean by “the need to not eat the fruit”?

Also, if they had no understanding, how would they know or judge necessity?

Is the Law "do not eat the fruit"? Yes

Did, they understand it? Yes, they did..

In their defence, did they say that they ate it because they did not know? No

Or did they say that they ate it out of necessity? No.

Rather they admitted their wrong doing but placed the blame on someone else . In law this is called "confession and avoidance"

(And this is where in American movies you hear the lawyer object that it is you who is testifying for the defendant meanwhile you cannot as you are not a party or witness in the suit)

As, I said read mens rea

jaephoenix:
Lol 😆
All this gaslighting and lies won't make my questions go away. Please if you cannot answer,shift make Ogascomax try.
Or better still, get your antipsychotics

Your question has been answered already and people here saw them. And I did not talk to you, it is you who spoke to me.

And in your mind because ogasco, is giving the answers you know, you think you can vampire him into your deat. Well, he may surprise you that you won't be able to bite him

jaephoenix:
Which former atheist?
And when did we attack this 'former atheist'?

Be there asking silly questions. You think we do not remember the thread earlier this year where you came hollering at the atheists who openly said that you people are stewp...? ou think I will forget your pain of that day?

Every year, every stewp follow follow who became an atheist, will leave you people and they would even declare that you people are the most fuuull.icsh on earth.

jaephoenix:
When did ask me that question? And wtf is natural living?

See it, now you have resorted to pretence and Lies when you see you cannot answer. Yet, you were making stewpi noises.

KnownUnknown:
If they didn’t have understanding or moral awareness before eating the fruit, how can they be faulted for eating the fruit?..

This is where you see that they were aware and understood the need to not eat the fruit. See mens rea

Which is why I recreated the kind of charges that they would have gotten in court

KnownUnknown:
If they didn’t have understanding or moral awareness before eating the fruit, how can they be faulted for eating the fruit?..

This is where you see that they were aware and understood the need to not eat the fruit. See mens rea

Arda1000:
well the good thing is anyone can interpret your Bible to suit his or her own ideas,whenever you guys are caught with logics.

Just say you no longer have any reasonable thing to say after this his response a all interpretations that are not correct, are shredded and will be shredded.

triplechoice:
The Genesis story is an allegory not meant to be interpreted literally.

The " eyes open" is a metaphor for gaining moral awareness and the knowledge of good and evil, not physical sight.

Figures of speech are always based on the real natural conducts and behaviour of humans therefore, it is always literal

coolheaven:
To me, the story of Adam nd Eve is only written as a provibe to depict how humanity distance themself from God.

Correct.

Only the diligent find its messages

judewrites:
No sin that will go unpunished.

God may delay the punishment for a while, but it will surely come.

Perhaps this is his punishment for his sexual immorality.

But for the fact that he publicly asked for forgiveness, he should be given some respite.

As for all those women speaking lies against doctor Chris, their punishment from God is coming.

Don't join them in their divine punishment.

This is always the beginning of the punishments when a husband defiles his marriage bed, how much more when he is one purported to work for God.

This was the same type of disgrace and humiliation David got but people never listen.

When you work for God, things are better and worser. If God best regular people 3times your own is 9times and more exactly how if he blesses people 3 times your own is 9times and more.

So, I pity people when they claim that they want to work for God and have become pastors. They don't know what they are doing to themselves given the type of mind that they carry into that employment.

judewrites:
Matthew 7
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³ And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

⁴ Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

⁵ Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Before you judge me or pastor Chris, have you judged yourself? Or are you a hypocrite??

We all judge ourselves and we know what judgement is due.

And no, this is no err, this is grievous closet sin and we all know that as a first step in dealing with him as you said, God has first exposed him that, that which he did in the "secret of his closet, is being shouted from the rooftops".

We all know that he only apologize to try to stop his bleed, but rather God has caused it to haemorrhage more.

roverbs 6:26: "For by means of a whorish woman a man is brought to a piece of bread: and the adulteress will hunt for the precious life"

Everyday for the crook, one day for God.

Akinpedia:
I hear you clearly, and you’ve made some valid points about government oppression and the destruction of local economies like the palm wine farmers.

But here is the part we must face: Religion has become the shield for these same 'thieves' you are mentioning.

When the government destroys houses or steals collective wealth, what do the religious leaders tell the victims? Do they lead a protest? No. They tell the poor to 'Pray for those in authority' and 'Give thanks in all situations.'

You mentioned that only God is helping the poor from being annihilated—but isn't it ironic that the more we pray, the more the 'thieves' multiply?

My point isn't about attacking one faith; it's about how organized religion has become a sedative. It makes the poor wait for a 'divine miracle' instead of demanding the justice and building permits that actually work for them. If prayer alone fixed 'rubbish papers' and bad governance, Nigeria would be the most advanced country on earth by now.

Do you not see that those who fight against the ruling bandits suffer a lot and are thrown into prisons? On top of their miseries the poor cannot take any more affliction. Of which.

Imagine, trying to challenge or take power from Wike or Gumu, you can already see what must happen.

immortalcrown:
You are also a hater. The difference between you and me is that I hate dishonesty and irresponsibleness while you hate truth. Why are you twisting things here to make it seem like Ned was the gold digger in the case? Even if you don't want to admit the girl's irresponsibleness, you should at least admit that of her mother.

When she was posting goodies online to oppress some people and create an impression that she made the best choice by marrying the man, you never praised the 16-year-old girl for being that wise. Now that she is receiving the consequence of her decision, you have suddenly realised that she was 16-year-old when she made the decision.

If she is suffering because I am jealous of her and not because of her irresponsibleness that you try to deny, let your love and support for her change her condition.

I understand you are still in pains of when she was peppering everyone with her possessions, so you have not forgiven her.

Threads have taken care of blaming her mother so that has been dealt with.

But, remember, Ned excessively pursued her showering and bribing her with gifts before the marriage and we all saw that she was worried about the gifts. That clearly tells you that he desperately wanted her more than she wanted him.

Anyway, she said it was better to cry in a lambo, so let her cry

immortalcrown:
You cannot buy who doesn't want to be bought.

You hate the girl really bad oo
Ahan, try and be fair. How do you expect an 16/18yr old resist both her mother, family and a billionaire's pressure?

Even you at 30 would have given in.

Men, you are excessively jealous of her ooo

immortalcrown:
The fact that Ned's family is still united while Regina's family is in chaos suggests the side that caused the marital crisis. Gold diggers!

Meanwhile, if this news was brought by a neighbour to the family, the neighbour will be attacked for not minding his or her business.

Now that bloggers are the ones bringing the news, nobody will tell the bloggers to mind their business. No good-spirited adult will devote time to monitor who unfollows who on social media.

It was Ned who went purchasing her. If you remember, there was a point that she looked like she did not want to have anything to do with Ned and was not going to marry him.

She won enter collect 10k dolls.

Akinpedia:
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Nigeria is arguably one of the most religious countries on the entire planet. We boast the largest churches with congregations that fill stadiums, the most densely packed mosques where worshippers gather in massive numbers, and influential religious leaders often referred to as "[b]Daddies in the Lord" who have accumulated immense wealth, becoming billionaires.

Despite this overwhelming religious presence and seemingly abundant spiritual resources, Nigeria remains the poverty capital of the world, struggling with widespread economic hardship and deprivation among its population.

Is it a coincidence? Or is religion being used as a strategic tool to keep the poor in a state of "mental lock"?

Here are three distinct and significant ways in which I strongly believe the poor are being systematically manipulated and controlled:

The "Suffer Now, Enjoy Later" Narrative: While wealthy and powerful leaders live lives of luxury and extravagance, those who are poor and marginalized are often told that their hardships and suffering are merely a "test from God" or a necessary trial to prove their faith and patience. They are assured that their true reward awaits them in heaven, beyond this earthly existence. This belief system makes people more accepting and comfortable with bad governance, widespread poverty, and inequality, rather than inspiring them to challenge the status quo and demand meaningful change.

Why put in the effort to strive for a better life here on earth when you have been promised a glorious mansion and eternal happiness in the sky after death?

The Financial Drain (Tithes and Seeds): It is truly heartbreaking and deeply distressing to see individuals who can barely afford three square meals a day giving their very last "widow’s mite" to organizations that have already grown into multi-billion naira empires. We are constantly told to "give to the Lord" as a way to escape poverty and financial hardship. Yet ironically, the only people escaping poverty seem to be those collecting all the money....

When you say religion we know it is Christianity you are attacking forgetting that even before centuries before Christianity came people were poor.

And "the only people escaping poverty are those stealing the God given collective wealth".

I was in the village with my father and they brought Sapele water. And then he told me that the white bandits came with their gin and called our own healthy and arthritis preventing ogogoro, illicit.

Thus, how can our palm wine farmer prosper?

Do you not see how Tinubu is wiping out the poor from Lagos by destroying their houses because they could not pay the millions to collect the rubbish paper called building permits?

It is only God that has been helping man if not the poor would be completely annihilated. And the poor need to pray that God continues destroying the plans of the thieves.

ogascomax:
Your arguments are lame. God gave man free will to act in whatever capacity they wish but at the end of all things he would judge man. Even you that is a rebel today God gave you that freedom to believe whatsoever you chose but at the end he would judge you. Whatever thing you need to believe in the existence of God is available but you have chose to follow lies. ..

His arguments itself is fallty. It has not even reached the quality where it can be considered an argument. The argument is itself an argument. So he has not even started arguing.

jaephoenix:
No they haven't. If you think they were,point me to them. I have literally been on all the threads in christian section,and they were not tackled. Christians tend to run from atheist debates

If they were not, you won't have been complaining and attacking that former atheists who abused you atheists.