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SpencerForbes:
It seems you overlooked the part where I explicitly stated he needs to take action. No single rule covers the complexities of marriage; he also needs to master the art of setting boundaries and communicating effectively. I shouldn’t have to list every single relationship fundamental to make a point.

There is a clear line between what should be tolerated and what requires a firm response. A wife having a different personality or perspective isn't 'disrespect'—it’s just human nature. Even a simple roommate situation requires a level of tolerance. You don't discard a marriage or belittle your spouse simply because they see life differently. Correcting bad habits and addictions requires love and leadership, not just a demand for dominance.

No dispute here. I was only just saying that tolerance has numbered days.

Evangelisttj:
Yes she is much.

I thought as much. You just have to stick to what you are already doing. If you change, you will have problems in your marriage oo. So, just endure. Sorry

Roycemadeit:
The example given remains confined to a Western Christian framework. Cultures that developed outside Christianity, such as traditional African societies, Hindu cultures, or classical East Asian systems, did not frame wrongdoing around the Christian devil.

While many of these cultures acknowledged spiritual forces, moral failure was largely treated as a matter of personal and communal responsibility, often addressed through restitution, punishment, or moral duty rather than external blame.

The Christian concept of Satan, later spread globally through colonisation and missionary activity, introduced a model in which moral failure could be attributed to an external supernatural agent.

Your example exists within that belief system; outside it are long-standing cultures that maintained accountability without the need for the devil as explanation.

I just picked those ones that I could immediately lay my hands on. I cannot be going round the world to pick the news showing where the criminals said so. I have a job. And this is just a mere social interaction of which I know, you know, that truly that statement is said in every nook and corner of the world but you just want to unnecessarily lay the burden of proving it, as if it would make you stop being an atheist.

So, I am not trying to convert, I am only here to show you, you are wrong. That's all.

Those ones you mentioned that is Africa, Hindu,Asia are even the easiest as you have heard the declaration in our local languages and Indian and Asian movies. And that declaration was already there before Christianity came.

And I don't understand where it seems you are saying that in Christianity when a criminal blames the devil, he is exculpated, discharged and a quited from his crimes, is that what you are saying?

KingDashx:
Which class
How many times has he deliver for club and country?

His presence on the field was a delivery

spyder880:
Pious Ikedia

Dude was balling in 1999 under 21, fast dribbler.

That was the person I was also going to say

richmond500:
nothing wrong in destroying bandits camp.

Great.

richmond500:
Secondly an innocent child cannot suffer the sins of her mother, if the child has no parent or anywhere to go to, I'll accept it, but if father or mother is alive, she should go back to either of them.
Even if the child doesn't belong to my wife but a random child who has no where to go, I'll accept it.

You have forgotten that you are talking about the pregnancy and child brought about by your wife's cheating.

SpencerForbes:
Where did I make mention of everlasting tolerance

You said "Tolerance is really the number one rule every man needs to learn before getting married" but I am just saying tolerance, ends.

Ibkay32:
Drive your own the way u sabi drive am, make I drive my own as I sabi drive am too

I don already dey drive my own dey go, so no problem

SisterAnn:
Don't blame me for your weakness. Be a vigilant watchman.

Still putting me down mummy?

No problem. I will try and be more more vigilant. Thank you

triplechoice:
However, the OP's point, and mine, is slightly different. If the ultimate source is truly formless, unknowable, and beyond human relation , then the word, "creator" cannot accurately describe it, because " creator" is a human term for a knowable agent who perform a knowable act (creation)

And this is where I pointed out the first fall of the ops statement for

1). If" means that he is talking about conjectures, fabrications, delushuns and fake and not real things

Whereas, we eat real food to live and not fake, unreal food.

2) his statement presupposes that he has seen and met the "ultimate source", to the point that he could describe the so called "ultimate source" whereas, he has not.

Thus, everything he has said on this basis, is not True. And as lawyers say, if you place something on nothing, it cannot stand

triplechoice:
But more importantly, your question assumes that "creator" is the primary or highest category. Many major traditions don't use that category at all. They use different foundational concepts like Brahman in Hinduism, the impersonal infinite ground of being, Tao in Taoism, The nameless,uncarved block, the way of nature, and Olodumare in Ifa, The unknowable source from which everything flows

These aren't " greater" words , they are words from different maps. "Creator" belongs to a map of personhood and action. These belong to maps of impersonal essence or non-dual reality.

So the limitation isn't just that human language is weak. The limitation is that assuming the "creator-creation" model is the only valid map confines the infinite to a single, culturally specific understanding

You said you had a slightly different view but you did not present it.

Yes, I indeed imply that creator" is the primary or highest category according to the limitation of our human language. And the other examples you give are still lesser than the word creator.

For a Creator is infinite, we don't His Name unless He tells us hence it is understandable by some may say "nameless". And just like the Name, we cannot know His Source.

So, you see, all these are still lesser than the the word 'creator'.

Ibkay32:
Make una dey deceived una self

As u drive una vehicle na so e go take travel or una go crash am. Wetin be my own.

It's the same for women, they only know that bad things follow if they answer it, so it helps them suppress it, meanwhile, they also real eyes that pressing the sexual thing on a man ( the man pullinations of sex inducement aka seduction) gives them benefits.

That is why we are always been harassed and abused sexually to the point of wondering whether something is wrong with us

Whereas, the evil thing is the one pushing our buttons like this one here.

SisterAnn:
My own was with FRSC that year. I have driven for many years without a valid drivers license.
But because I was a woman, they hardly stopped me to check my partyKola.

But on this fateful day, they stopped me.

As I parked and the guy started approaching, I started forming to be in a haste.

I told them I was a nursing mother and had to quickly dash out to buy groceries and my neighbor whom I left my baby in her care has been calling me that my baby has not stopped crying since I stepped out.

I told them I picked up a purse not containing my license in my hurry.

As I told my sob story I was also rubbing my two breasts and cupping them while swinging them from side to side and feigning that my breast milk was so full and leaking which I told them was a sign that my baby needed me asap.

I came down from my car and was cupping and pressing my two breasts while begging them to let me go.

The young man just had no choice than to me go with my Wahala.

It worked.

nnamdi640:
You are right the most wicked of all are those too religious people and add it up, they will use the holy book to defend their actions, check out the terrorists leaders, they are too religious

You who were so wicked that you pursued your secondary school teacher to arrest him just because he gbenshd the girl you liked.

It is you atheists who are wickeder. You people just hide it and keep it down until day you launch it.

While the rest of the world openly do their own while claiming religion.

Kobojunkie:
You will give it to your husband because you hope you get what in return? Hope nothing is ok? Unless he is also giving you his virginity and his skin as well, you had better give those to yourself instead.

See as she laugh you as you know get am.

Goldrosewine:
My purity
My soft side (I am rude with everyone else except my dad and my favorite aunt🥰😋😋)
My mumu button


My first kiss. I kiss my dad everytime oh but I am sure you know the type of kiss I am talking about🤕
Gold Rose 🍷

See confession of In sex things. Re Daddy bleeper.

Guys, do you see why she cannot tell you who took her virginity?

Op don spoil person marriage.

kiddaz:
But to answer your question na woman like am pass. Just how I know say you go like am very well

Bros, she dey scam you.
Na d scam dem dey always do wen market dry.

See scam!

Them dey disturb you, yet you kon raise thread on sex.

Men, una dey see as dey take dey catch market?

Myrrhis:
Any woman who can do those for a man on the first day she meets him has no self-worth.

Hypocrite!

It is you who has no worth as she made the mistake of giving you things you don't deserve which you joyfully took.

If you are a virgin, Fear God and obey Him.See that thing called fornication, Run from am.

For virgin girls, know that non virgins are your worstest enemies. They must set you up to throw away your virginity including having you raped.

Now for virgin boys, if they can do this to virgin girls, why would they not throw themselves even freely to have you bleep them? Whether aunty, mama or married women, both too beautiful and ugly. All of them are coming for you. So don't think yourself lucky that women are pursuing. It is wolves that are pursuing you sheep.

So note this one in addition to the other ones people will tell you

Evangelisttj:
Yes its important to me. I would wish we give out things, declutter spaces, buy new things, stay clean and maybe stick with one or two water bottles or coolers and change them promptly when required. Thats my belief but I have managed this for a long time and still doing. So its not like its causing a huge rift. Just wanted to hear views and I thank you.

By the way, I agree with you about talking less.

I perceive she is much younger than you, if so, then sorry is all I should say and I wish you more tolerance to your chest

SpencerForbes:
Tolerance is really the number one rule every man needs to learn before getting married. You have to remember you’re bringing someone in who has a completely different background and upbringing from yours. As they say, habits are easy to form but hard to break. Since this hoarding thing is already a habit for her, you just have to learn to manage it.

The best approach is communication first—no shouting or fighting. Just sit her down and explain calmly why the clutter bothers you. If she’s struggling to stop, you can step in to help—but be smart about it. Maybe when she’s out, you can quietly clear out 5 or 10 of the most useless items (like old bottles or bags) and organize the rest neatly. If you just keep nagging her about it without offering a solution, a small issue like this could escalate into a major crisis. Peace matters more. Just my 2 cents.

There is nothing like everlasting tolerance.

Ibkay32:
If what you wrote up there is truly what called the issue between you and your wife, bro, I won’t lie to you — you have a problem. Some men, honestly, just like to dominate in every way. So because a woman refused to discard what you see as waste, that’s now an issue in your home?

That’s not leadership, that’s control. Marriage isn’t a dictatorship; it’s partnership. You don’t always have to have your way, and not every disagreement needs to turn into a power struggle.

Marriage is a vehicle so it needs control. And 2 drivers cannot drive 1 vehicle. And from the tone he is not a dictator.

He just has a serious problem that has to be handled delicately

Roycemadeit:
I would want to know this "whole world" that confesses this experiences and influences.

You already know that is why I said "Is there anyplace in the world where that statement "the devil made me do it” has never been made?

No, there is no place or culture or race where it has never been made."

And you did not oppose it, for you yourself have heard it in the news from around the world when they reporting the criminals statement as to why he committed the crime.

Bbc
Crossbow killer said 'devil' made him do it
5 Mar 2025 — Crossbow

FOX 2
https://fox2now.com
“The devil made me do it” – Man admits to murder on the witness ...

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣ok.....my destroyed is actually the same with your destroyed.

So answer the question.

Would the people in the lake of fire too be destroyed like death and hell fire?

Truth is it is only God that knows .

If it is will that they destroy is the common destroy that we know, that is the one that burns and turns black, then it is, what it is.

But if it is His will that they destroy, the destroy of boiling diamond in a pot of hot water forever, ah, I pity the diamond, for it is, what it is.

And then, if it is a destroy that my mind cannot conceive, as He said, then I cannot talk, for it will be, according to how God has willed it.

And herein lies the problem for those going there, God has not shown us His Will for that area, so, they have not better problem and too bad for them, they cannot even plan on it.

Hmmm. That is better gbese dem go see.

vdestro:
That one? you never see anything. E be like say dem swear for am with Allegory. Just wait e never start yet ooo, e still dey warm up.

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.. Mark Twain

Denial is a temporary shield against unwanted reality, a way to avoid pain, or a self-deceptive coping mechanism. Anonymous

vdestro:
Straight sef go see dem do tufiakwa, I can never be associated with this one.

😁😁😁😁 you don off me with laugh abeg make I go sleep. 😂😂😂

richmond500:
I have answered u, it's not wrong to drop bombs on bandits as long as the bomb didn't kill many innocent people.

The word is bandits camp! Do I take it that your answer is the same?

richmond500:
I
I will drive my wife away, I have no reason to keep the child if the father is alive

Are you saying that if the father is dead, you would keep the child of your cheating wife whom you have driven away?

vdestro:
That is what he does. I don leave am for his going backwards and running up and down.

Make em turn to Bob Marley wailers.

What a character!

Hmm people dey oo. And in their minds they say they are straight forward. 😁😁😁

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣I don't know what destroyed means. Tell me.

How did you get here if you did not know? 😁😁😁

Roycemadeit:
Right? Given that the devil doesn't only exist in Abrahamic religions...

Now you have moved post to doesn't exist, whereas the whole world confess their experiencing his touch and influence.

thinkmoney:
Why are you this way? I just told you things weren’t literally cast into fire in Revelation.
Revelation is metaphorical, allegorical like a proverb.

You have now shifted Post from burning to metaphors and allegory whereas Revelations is talking about events yet to come?