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Christianity Etc › Re: All World Religions Are Accepted By God/Allah/Chineke/Olodumare by Dtruthspeaker: 4:08am On Nov 04, 2023
Tayorshd87:
Good but do u know most religions I stated.too don't tolerate that according to their teachings??

According to Islam too killing lies stealing etc too are not.accepted by Allah ...t
Don't know Hindu but I know Allah and Muhammad do support the doing of evil.
Christianity Etc › Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Dtruthspeaker: 7:56am On Nov 03, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
Point one how can you mix things up
Yes they stand Bible shows the seed planted on the rock stands for a while ...
These are not the issues. We know what you said and what you had in mind when you said it. So all these are out of point. You have no reasonable justification for this false doctrine.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Jesus' Character, A Failed Attempt To Reconcile Stories by Dtruthspeaker: 7:42am On Nov 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
You can never find the word LIVING in any verse having to do with Lake of fire? smiley
Matthew 13:42
and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth

It is the living who weep end eat their teeth.
Christianity Etc › Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Dtruthspeaker:
Kingsnairaland:
Look at the billions that end up making heaven because they believe in Jesus ...
Departure from post! Do you see how that your belief is unfounded and God does not back it up?

Secondly these are those who He found no ought against them for surely none of these are fornicators, drunkards, liars, thieves etc 1 Corinthians 6:9
Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Jesus' Character, A Failed Attempt To Reconcile Stories by Dtruthspeaker: 7:30am On Nov 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Lake of Fire: Extinction things no longer to be found on planet earth.
But shall be eternally living in the damnation of the heavenly planet. What a bad japa
Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Jesus' Character, A Failed Attempt To Reconcile Stories by Dtruthspeaker: 7:22am On Nov 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
HELL simply means GRAVE!

No man has seen God at any point in time! John 1:18 compare to Exodus 33:20

But i have no business with you.
And the grave is not a good thing that is why hell is thrown into lake of fire along with liars and Satan.

Secondly, Abraham met with The King Righteousness, A Person Who had no beginning or ending. This cannot be ignored.
Christianity Etc › Re: All World Religions Are Accepted By God/Allah/Chineke/Olodumare by Dtruthspeaker: 11:48pm On Nov 02, 2023
Tayorshd87:
Conclusion
I have took time to write this as a writer to enlighten our christains or Muslim brothers to stop the intimidation of one religion over the other because the yaweh/Allah or God of the universe too was aware of this during the creation of the world

just call it a day and drop your comments ✍️

Thanks
The difference is that The God that hates stealing, lying, fornication, adultery, murder of the innocent can not be the Same One Who approves murders of the innocent, adultery, whorrdom etc.

As God Said He does not tolerate those who are neither hot nor cold.

And the bible shows that He is a very consistent God and One Who hates all evils and wickednesses calling on men to do the good and the right and the just.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Jesus' Character, A Failed Attempt To Reconcile Stories by Dtruthspeaker: 11:41pm On Nov 02, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ Melchizedek is one of Adam's descendants so he has died just like all other humans! wink
Kai! Jw lies and fabrications plenty o.

When clearly the bible does not give His lineage. And the designation "King of Peace" should reasonably show every one WHO that is, Most especially as THAT KING'S SON, IS THE PRINCE OF PEACE in addition to lack of lineage.

No eye had seen the hell wey dey wait you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:19pm On Nov 02, 2023
jaephoenix:
1. We don't know their specific names.
2. Since the phones come from Apple factories, and Jobs owns Apples, then automatically he bears any praise(or accusations) for Apple
Savvy?
Do you not see that you contradicting yourself with your bad reasoning when you said "the person that put the maize in the oven or microwave created the popcorn"?

That is the trap you entered and can't get out of becsuse of that bad reasoning.
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:14pm On Nov 02, 2023
jaephoenix:
I used instances where farmers, traders, architects etc, everyday people utilize square roots. And you're here telling me some illiterate farmers in Oturkpo don't use square roots. Lol.
Its like ignorant farmers using hands to uproot weeds in large hectares of lands for weeks, not knowing that there are machineries that can do that in hours. Who do you blame?
Look, l[b]earning science and tech aint by force.[/b] You can decide to do your thing your way without involving science and tech, no biggie. But don't come online and expose your ignorance that science and technology dont work, when they are already available
If you had not hastily jumped on budaatum's shit, you would have seen that the bold is what I was complaining of in my thread which budaatum raised for children have no farms or businesses so why force them to learn square roots and compound interest?

Is it not adults who own farms and businesses and if they had problems with their engagements they definitely would seek out a solution to it?

That is one of the points I was making in my thread which you have just restated.

So don't leap before you look!
Christianity Etc › Re: What Changed After I Started Paying My Tithe by Dtruthspeaker: 11:02pm On Nov 02, 2023
jaephoenix:
Reread the OP's post. It's clearly about Yahweh rewarding tithers
See another shift of post. Now you are running to hide under the op after I have answered your response

Clearly, you don't have any intelligent thing to say.
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:57pm On Nov 02, 2023
jaephoenix:
Steve Jobs owns Apple(or majority shares), so any product made by it is attributed to him...
That is why I asked you the question
'How then do you praise Steve jobs as the creator of the iPhone instead of the unnamed workers who actually created it by your reasoning?"

So do you see how flawed and contradictory and unstable your reasoning is?
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:52pm On Nov 02, 2023
jaephoenix:
Where is it written on Apple devices that Steve Jobs made them?
See fraudulent answer. (Fallacy)

No one said it was written on Apple devices that Steve jobs made them.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Changed After I Started Paying My Tithe by Dtruthspeaker: 10:48pm On Nov 02, 2023
jaephoenix:
Stop shifting the goal post. We are talking about your god rewarding tithers with wealth, and nothing else
You shifted the post saying "Matter of fact I loaned my tithing bro money last week.
Who does Elon Musk pay tithes to? Or Gates? Or Buffett?" Are these about God rewarding tiithers? No.

Thus, let us all reap whatsoever we sow. No one asked you to tithe.
Christianity Etc › Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Dtruthspeaker: 10:42pm On Nov 02, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
Over one billion people practice what I say many believe in Jesus and believe Jesus is God

Tell me how many practice your words that you can only be saved by the law and that Jesus is not God.
A wrong does not cease to be a wrong even if 10billion people say it is not.
Christianity Etc › Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Dtruthspeaker: 10:39pm On Nov 02, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
The question you asked here...

This is where I would have asked questions for precise clarity which is "went out from you how?"

Is what you could have asked instead saying this below

So rather than assuming that they were standing on a fertile soil before.
Clearly, you are not able to reasonably respond here for you asked the question "Dtruthspeaker
So let me ask you a hypothetical question...." which I have given you my own response to.

Thus, it makes no sense why you are repeating what I said in response .

And you have already admitted that they "standing before" having been drawn to God and have received The Holy Spirit. You can't change your speech.

So clearly you ought to see that you can not reasonably justify your erroneous stance. You are just turning around yourself as you struggle to find justification.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Jesus' Character, A Failed Attempt To Reconcile Stories by Dtruthspeaker: 10:22pm On Nov 02, 2023
Broveens42:
When you say Jesus came from the Melchizedek concept, it's fine, but when the writer mirrors Melchizedek's character by saying ...He(Jesus) is ALSO able to save, the priesthood has been changed (nature, not transiet) because Melchizedek did not die according to Heb7:23 , Melchizedek was already declared king of righteousness and peace. His nature did not change (did not die), hence CONTINUES FOREVER as a priest.
You are not taking cognisance of the different times in reference to salvation.

In Melchizedek's time God was very close to man such that people did directly encounter Him as proven by King Abimelech and Abraham and therefore salvation was handled directly by God upon those who related with Him.

And there was no Commandment of going to the High Priest for cleansing and salvation.

But by Jesus" time God was very very far from man and was even speaking to man through other men.

And The Commandment of cleansing and salvation was in force. Thus, Christ had to comply and raise up The Law of Priest and salvation hence the connection yet again.
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:56pm On Nov 02, 2023
kkins25:
The truth speaker, up till now..

okay.. How come you and i both know that steve jobs is the creator of the iPhone, and every being on earth know this? Millions of people have interacted with steve jobs directly or indirectly, including you and I. Even my children will have enough evidence that a man like steve jobs existed because, millions of people have seen him with their koro koro eyes.

But, you and I don't know who created the universe. In fact, no single person does.
This is a fallacy of switching the burden of proof but I will answer you this one.

And the answer is ADVERTISEMENT.

For all we know Steve may not be the one who truly created the iphone but his P.R and Publicists says he is the one.

As proven by the fact that people do not know the name of the person who created the pot we all use for party jollof rice and stew or the guy here who says he can convert our soakaway to power our house (bye bye nepa)

All because those who control advertisement and popularity are not interested in making such people known.

So it is with God.
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:13pm On Nov 02, 2023
jaephoenix:
grin
Its like you just discovered what fallacy is? Ogbeni, define fallacy
Can you not read? And do you not have internet? Do both!
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:07pm On Nov 02, 2023
jaephoenix:
Actually the person that put the maize in the oven or microwave created the popcorn. He didn't create the maize but he created the popcorn along with the oven.
Logical reasoning is really a problem for theists
How then do you praise Steve jobs as the creator of the iPhone instead of the unnamed workers who actually created it by your reasoning? Or abuse Gtbank instead of the guy who created the ATM when it refused to dispense your money?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Changed After I Started Paying My Tithe by Dtruthspeaker: 4:36pm On Nov 02, 2023
jaephoenix:
Jealousy? Really? Jealous of who? The guy wasting his money via tithes?
I’m in my mid forties and haven't tithed a dime but I'm way better than my tithing colleagues and siblings. Matter of fact I loaned my tithing bro money last week.
Who does Elon Musk pay tithes to? Or Gates? Or Buffett? In fact, in the top 10 richest Nigerians, how many of them are Christians, never mind tithe payers.
These guys are just too dumb for me
It is known that riches is nothing. Even animals have been given riches as experts have lived and died in want.

But the bottomline is we all reap what we sow so live your life as you deem fit.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Jesus' Character, A Failed Attempt To Reconcile Stories by Dtruthspeaker: 4:18pm On Nov 02, 2023
Broveens42:
*Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron? 12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law*
The language structure here is simply saying ...
" What further need was there that a priest should come (from a perfect order in Melchizedek) and not Aaron. So it's simply saying there was need to change(transient) from Aaron(law) to Some concept and what's that concept?
Simply a mirror image of a Melchizedek with an UNCHANGED priesthood (,Nature)
This is a simple case of imitation by the writer..
That's the point I was trying to make
The simple logic is that Aaron is Man and earthly while Melchizedeck is Spirit and heavenly. Exactly where Jesus came from.

That is the connection
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:08pm On Nov 02, 2023
jaephoenix:
https://numberdyslexia.com/squares-and-square-roots-real-ife-examples/

https://unacademy.com/content/ssc/study-material/mathematics/how-square-roots-can-be-applied-in-real-life-situations/

https://unacademy.com/content/ssc/study-material/mathematics/how-square-roots-can-be-applied-in-real-life-situations/#:~:text=Square%20roots%20are%20applied%20in,probability%2C%20architecture%2C%20and%20physics.&text=The%20rate%20of%20return%20on,found%20by%20using%20square%20roots.

https://byjus.com/question-answer/where-can-we-use-squares-and-square-roots-in-our-daily-life/

Instead of just keeping quiet and keeping us to guess about your dumbness, you had to open your mouth and make the doubts go away.
Guys, watch him talk more rubbish now
See Fool! Is everyone an architect? Or if you have built your house you would know that you already know the space you required without any square root.

Same for the farmers in Otorkpo, Owo and Nsukka who already know the area of their farms and the amount of produce they have without any square root so you gave nothing fool.
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:59pm On Nov 02, 2023
jaephoenix:
Lol. What is off point about my reply, dullard?
See Fool pretending not to know that off point means arguing outside the area of argument. Fool
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by Dtruthspeaker:
jaephoenix:
Why must the universe be created?
Fallacy upon fallacy. The question is on you and clearly you can no longer argue.

Secondly. Fallacy deviation from the argument. The universe is not the argument.
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:14pm On Nov 02, 2023
budaatum:
Was maths not a requirement for admission to the lawyer you claim to be?
Departure from argument.

Only a mad person like you thinks to use Pythagoras to prove Square root and desperately running all over the place trying to find an argument to make only to return with an more stupid responses worse than the last one
Christianity Etc › Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Dtruthspeaker: 2:02pm On Nov 02, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
Number 1
You said..... (If they shall fall away means that they were standing before.) but I explained it in the post too you did not read that post
Your explanation shows that they were "standing before". your words
."..If they shall fall away from what they heard initially that drew them to God"

So this is clear and there is no dispute here.

Kingsnairaland:
Dtruthspeaker
So let me ask you a hypothetical question..... When someone says to you..... I have four families with four wife's
But my last family They went out from us....

Can you explain what....(.but My last family They went out from us..) .... What do this statement means.... do this statement mean that they are not part of our family or they were but they no longer now.....
This is where I would have asked questions for precise clarity which is "went out from you how?"

1) Did you banish them like Satan, Adamand Eve, Sons of God who left their first estate? Therefore, they are cast out never to return again.

Or
2) Are they coming back?

3) Would you receive them again if they come back no matter how long they have been gone for?

These are the questions I will definitely ask you to know your precise mind towards those who have gone out whether they are now cast off and now your enemies or they got your permission to travel hence they would soon be returning.

Kingsnairaland:
Number 2
You said this.... (He is only a hearer the word but he did not get The Holy Spirit..) ..

I told you getting the holy spirit is different from sharing the holy spirit

And here Paul said they shared it with us

I explained this... (He is only a hearer the word but he did not get The Holy Spirit..) .
Deviation from Argument. The argument is not about The Holy Spirit. And the point is you admitted that the hearer did not get The Holy Spirit. So no issue here.

So, it's only question 1 which remains which I have responded to.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Changed After I Started Paying My Tithe by Dtruthspeaker: 1:33pm On Nov 02, 2023
world123:
Learn to be soft when passing a message. Are you trying to make the OP afraid or what?

There are better ways to pass understanding.🙏
Truthfully, yes.

People are not taught to fear God and neither do they real eyes that God is greatly greatly to be feared. And that even though He is very patient, He still expects us to do our part in the relationship with Him.

And, He has told us what He expects from us and of us and what will happen if we obey/disobey Him.

So I am just trying to warn him what things he should expect for He is not the first to pay tithes and have a blessing.

We are supposed to go through the eye of a needle so how can anyone expect it to be easy?

So, I am just trying to let him face the plain and hard Truth that he may decide whether he truly wants to follow God or that he is just following God because he wants to prosper where God will definitely dump him even faster than lightning leaving him shocked and pondering what happened just as others before him.

People think that God was joking when He Said "No one who puts his hand to the plow and looks back is fit for the kingdom of God.” Like 9:62
Christianity Etc › Re: What Changed After I Started Paying My Tithe by Dtruthspeaker: 7:16am On Nov 02, 2023
Righthussle:
This is just funny.
J.E.A.L.O.U.S.Y
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:07am On Nov 02, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Mumu
Cornelboy
Come and see Olodo
He says it's our parents that created us
This is the funniest joke ever
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They are a very Stupid and mad people who reason distortedly like censored songs. cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:02am On Nov 02, 2023
budaatum:
He also says God created him, when we all know he was created by his mummy and daddy. And Dliar says he's a lawyer, which is an obvious lie.
So when you put popcorn seeds in the oven both you and the oven are the creators of the popcorn?

Atheists dey stupid and mad at the same time.

budaatum:
But while we're at it, I am an astronaut who just returned from Pluto. And I'm off to Jupiter tomorrow for a long weekend.
See proof thst atheists are mad!
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:43am On Nov 02, 2023
budaatum:
Primary 4 maths

Dliar, I do not buy land from ọmọ onilẹ in Osogbo because I own my own land in my own town.
D' Mad Liar

We buy plots or a plot of land measuring 60 x 120 or 50 x 100 from whoever is appointed to sell it any where in this country.

NO ONE SAYS I WANT BUYS 5SQUARE OR 5SQUARE ROOT LAND WHETHER IN YOUR OSOGBO OR IN ETINAN! Only a madman like you thinks it so.

And In proof of your madness you are now using Pythagoras to prove square root. Surely you are the dirty tattered mad man with bushy hair we see playing at Ojota dumpsite.

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