₦airaland Forum

Aemmyjah:
According to Revelation 20:14
The lake of fire means or represent what?

It looks like what we call a prison (a world of great sorrow, pain, suffering, torment and anguish)

Kingsnairaland:
no
. Read your Bible.

That why Satan gift has not been taken

God don't go back taking gift it forever yours as long as the earth remains.

Romans 11:29

29 God does not take back his gifts. He does not change his mind about those he has chosen.

Has not been taken does not mean cannot be taken. E.g. he gave to Saul kingship and He took it from him and gave it to David. Same for this world which He is coming to take back from man.

Whatsoever is given can always be taken back.

LordReed:
You didn't read very well. They were in the same area for 40 years. They would kill animals, eat and discard bones, poop, discard waste, bury the dead and all the other associated debris hundreds of thousands of people would normally generate just by living and you want to compare that to 1 person taking a trip.

See, you did not read well. Here is a brief list of places where they stopped.

From Exodus 13 upwards we see Etham, Pi-ha-hiroth, Marah, Elim, Kadesh, Midian,
Nu. 20:1,22, 33:36–37
Located in the Wilderness of Zin; Miriam's burial place

Mount Hor Nu. 20:22, 21:4, 33:37–41
On the border of Edom; Aaron's burial place according to Numbers
Zalmonah
Nu. 33:41–42
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Punon
Nu. 33:42–43...

Aemmyjah:
What is 'perish'
What does it mean for someone to perish?

According to God, The Owner and Judge of What perish shall be, it is a casting in hell/lake of fire to live forever in eternal damnation

Maynman:
Anything that was given can be taken back.

True!

Kingsnairaland:
What did you you do to inherit the sin of Adam because Bible says all men in this world are sinners once they come into this earth infact the world is sinful

So tell me why a new born child is called a sinner when they did not do any thing.

Do we not sin our own versions of sins as Adam had done?

That is what we inherited from Adam to wit, the ability to sin!

Thus, a new born baby is not a sinner.

Sinning requires a person "TO DO" that which is wrong and not lawful.

jamuta:
Nice twist!

Good catch!
That is how atheist argue. The fools think twisting an argument is part of reasonable arguement.

They do not even see that The Laws of Fallacy and logic is meant to catch twisters, yet they say they argue logically. what a joke they are!

jamuta:
Nice 👍🏾

Can you believe that that the guy still became an atheist?

He was converted by that resident evil here who calls himself Lordreed.

paxonel:
you have not quoted any scripture to prove your point.
Me, I have quoted John 3:6 to prove my point

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit...

And your quotes are out of course and no enter at all!

paxonel:
absolutely right!
It is share ignorance for a Christian to fear that he can lose his salvation by any means order than him rejecting Christ. ...

And what things constitute a rejection of Christ?

Answer: 1 Corinthians 6:9-11,R Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? · Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor ...

Kingsnairaland:
John 10:28-29 says: “And I give to them eternal life, and they shall by no means perish forever, and no one shall snatch them out of My hand. My Father…is greater than all, and no one can snatch them out of My Father's hand.

God is not a confused God

He knows the end from the start

You can't be saved in Jesus then become unsaved.

There is nothing your child can do that will make him not to be your child...

You are just deceiving yourself. When you do as children of Satan do, you shall surely perish like the sons of God who fell.

So, if you want external life you must live like a child of God forever.

Aemmyjah:
...that whosoever believe in him should not perish but have everlasting life...

The correct word is "should not"! Not "never perish"

LordReed:
66 books that were selected by men, who excluded other books simply because they did not fit into their theology but were recognised by others.

You can put tiger generator in your Reedager car and use keke marwa alternator in it however, every reasonable person knows that the VVT-1 engine and alternator is perfect for in the Camry just like the bible.

LordReed:
There is no comparison between traveling and living within an area for 40 years with traveling between 2 distant point for 13 hrs. For one they are living and conducting all the activities associated with hundreds of thousands of people living in an area which generates way more debris than a single person traveling for 13hrs.

You did not read well. They did not live in an area for 40 years. They were moving (travelling) and stopping at different spots over the course of 40 years exactly like Young Shall grow night buses used to stop well well when they were travelling from Lagos to Calabar or ehen like Ethiopian airlines stop over flights where Delta Airlines take 12 hours from Atlanta to Lagos, Ethiopian stop overs take tactically almost 48hours and there is no debris to found be found of either of them.

LordReed:
...BTW 3 of the gospels have unknown authors nor does Paul who some of his books were likely written before the gospels barely quotes anything from Jesus' words. If indeed these were all stuff that was being transmitted orally how come Paul's books barely has any touchstones by way of verbatim quotes?

Because his focus was in the area where he was an expert, which is Law (The Commandments) and his knowledge of Law which was the same reason why he hated Christ's movement in the first place and made him think that they were evil anti-God like you.

Until God opened his eyes to see that Christ was still talking about The Law, the very thing which he supported and upheld.

Thst is why we see him making the connections of Law to us and to Christ as he applauded and uppraised Christs works.

Thus his writings focused on re-raising up The Law and giving us The Law opinion (if i say legal opinion now you people will get it but legal means man made while Law is God Made) for us to see and know the workings and implications of The Law (The Commandments).

Which is why God chose him so that the world would have a glimpse from The Eye of The Law how God, The Law would judge them!

It's as simple as that. The lay men like the fishermen can say and repeat what Christ had Said and taught them but God raised Paul, to be the lawyer who gives The Judgments of The Law!

OCompatriot:
Maybe...
But, whatever the cause, I think it is an unacceptable limitation to human rights. What do you think?

No human has absolute unfettered freedom for a man has to live alone to achieve that. And since man does not live a lone, there will always be a clash of freedoms (rights) which is where God Law'd The Law of Reasonable limitation and exercise of Rights.

Which is why sometimes one person's rights maybe raised higher than yours at one-time and at another because of reasonable grounds and at another time your own right will be raised higher.

That is why we say life is turn by turn.

MiddleDimension:
So, answer this question: if polygyny is an abomination or an anathema to your God, why then did he describe himself as the husband of two women, Judah and Israel...

SIRTee15 has already answered you that Isreal was ONE not two before the one got the torso carrying her 2 legs amputated off, the rest of her body.

As i have told you, you have nothing.

LordReed:
I have never spent 40 years traveling to my village so there is no chance I would leave the kind of evidence people who have lived in the same place for 40 years would have.

Even in the 1 to 13hours when you travel the evidence of your travel is not there not to talk of 40 years travel.

SIRTee15:
When God made his covenant with the Israelites, were they one nation or two nations.
When did they become 2 nations, before the covenant or after the covenant.
Your answer lies in your honest answer of above.

Exactly!

cedricksly:
... some he even gave their masters wives in addition to the one they have already, some he gave their brother's wife to add to theirs, yet it wasn't in its initial plan for man. .

Where did God give a person his brother's wife to add to theirs,?

Otunbaloyeloye:
Huuum!! Then why was it that the people in the Bible that God used married more than one wife and God never condemned them. These are what the so call "Oyinbo" brought for us including church marriage as Marriage instead of our traditional marriage. God does not condemn polygamy. Do as your power and pocket reach period.

Go check it. It was when they were alone or had one wife that God used them. NEVER WHEN THEY HAD 2 WIVES.

LordReed:
They stayed in 1 place for forty years and left no evidence.

When you travel to your village are the evidence of your travel still on the highway?

ejimatic:
God allowed them at that time. By the time Jesus came one man one wife was mainted. Math i9 4-6 and it is non negotiable!

You people should fear God o! Where did you see God allow it?

Does the fact that you are not arrested for cheating in exams mean that cheating is allowed?

Fear God! His words are always eternal and herein is how God saved us by sending down Christ to come and Re-tell to us what things God hath Said before which men hath cast away wherewith the people of today and tomorrow would not know what things God has already Spoken, so that they perish not

Bluezy13:
Nor did he frown upon it.

O He definitely did for that is the position the world always puts themselves in. So, He does not need to frown on each individual.

But His approval and the light (delight) is seen when a man lifts himself out of that multitude in doing those things which pleased Him which is clearly seen that David at the first did not walk in those ways as he himself had warned Solomon, who also did it until they both fell.

Same for the young rich man who kept The Commandments.

God's approval is seen in His happiness and excitement of the few people who walked rightly .

And having seen His approval and joy, therefore we know His more popular Silence means that men are not doing well at all.

dalitigator:
The Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) is a Nigerian anti-graft agency established with a goal to curb the spread of economic and financial crimes in the country. One of the EFCC's tools to prevent suspects from withdrawing funds from their bank accounts is the Post No Debit (PND) directive. This directive is placed on an account alleged to have been involved in financial crimes, and it prevents the account holder from making any debit transactions, including withdrawals. In this topic, we will discuss the timeframe within which the EFCC can place a PND on an alleged crime-involved account and the implications of non-compliance.

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According to Section 34 of the EFCC Act of 2004, the EFCC can instruct a bank to place a PND on an account allegedly involved in criminal activity for 72 hours. During this time, the EFCC can conduct investigations without interference from the account holder. After the 72-hour period elapses, the EFCC can apply to a court to extend the PND duration.

In case of non-compliance with the EFCC directive, the bank risks facing severe sanctions and fines. Not only may the bank's reputation be damaged, but it may also suffer a loss of its operational license. It is, therefore, essential for banks to comply immediately with any EFCC directives for PND placements.

It's worth noting that the PND directive is limited to the specific account specified by the EFCC. The directive does not affect any other accounts, subsidiaries, or branches of the account holder. However, if the EFCC finds that multiple accounts are involved, it may issue a directive for each account separately.

If you find yourself in a situation where a PND has been placed on your account, it is advisable to consult with a legal representative as soon as possible. The law provides you with the right to challenge the PND placement and provide evidence to refute the allegations. However, it's important to work with a legal representative who is knowledgeable in banking and finance laws to ensure the best possible outcome.

The PND directive is a powerful tool in combating financial crimes, and as such, it's crucial that banks comply with any EFCC directives. Banks should always be diligent in their monitoring of clients' activities and report any suspicious activities to the EFCC as required. On the other hand, account holders should be aware of their legal rights and seek legal counsel to challenge wrongful PND placements. With everyone playing their role, we can help ensure a safer and more just financial system in Nigeria.


But what are the rights of the bank customer in the event that the PND restriction exceeds 72 hours without a court order extending it?


In the recent case of NPG FARMS (NIG) LTD v. ZENITH BANK PLC (2022) LPELR-57548(CA), the Court of Appeal was of the decision that a post no debit restriction that exceeds the legally allowed 72hrs without a court order extending same is illegal, ultra vires the provision of the law and more importantly, a fundamental breach of the customer's right.

But before you begin ask why the court go talk something like this, let's explore the facts that culminated in this case.

In this case, the Appellant, who was the Plaintiff/Applicant at the trial court, instituted an action against the Respondent at the trial Court via an originating motion alleging the violation of his right to enjoyment of its property as entrenched in Section 44 of the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (as amended).

The Appellant sought a declaration that the posting of the Post No Debit (PND) on the Applicant's account with the Respondent bank without any valid or subsisting Order of Court to that effect amounts to a violation of the Applicant's right to enjoyment of its property as entrenched in Section 44 of the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (as amended) and Article 14 of the African Charter on Human and Peoples Rights (Ratification and Enforcement) Act LFN 2004 amongst other declaratory reliefs and orders as well as general damages.

The Appellant lost the case at the trial court. But he won at the court of Appeal, which vacated the judgment of the trial court, entered judgment in his favour, and awarded the sum of 5 million naira as general damages and 250k as cost of action against the bank for illegally placing a continuing post no debit restriction on the Appellant's bank account without due process of law.


BluntCrazeMan,IconicR, Fergie001, lhordspy, Lotanna2, Racoon, LegendHero, Helinues,Dtruthspeaker.

Rubbish! Another attempt of bandits pretending to have respect for the natural rights of the people they used force and harm and imprisonment and death to subject the conqered to obey them.

Rights under legal are whatever your bandit rulers choose to give you.

Whereas under Law, PND would have been restricted only to the amount under investigation requiring the bank to immediately apologetically notifying the affected customer that that amount in his account is under dispute and investigation and that he should come contest it.

Bluezy13:
Last time I checked, your Bible has it that David had more than 1 wife, Elkanah had 2 wives, Solomon had 700 wives.

Is your Bible confused or you are

And God did not praise any of them nor extol us to walk as they have walked.

PythonTutorials:
But why did God not condemn David for marrying so many wives 🤔

Because He did things worse than cheating on his wife and marrying wuhores.

MiddleDimension:
...So, you were right when you said Paul gave that advice so that they can concentrate on their work in the vineyard. He does not want them to be pulled in two directions, like he said in the bolded. But those, like @Dtruthspeaker and @Vdestro, who want to remain ignorant, will ignore this and instead keep believing the lies he was told by those who know nothing about the authentic christian teachings, or the mind of God concerning the matter...

You are just deceiving yourself. Clearly, Paul's statement shows that a man with one wife is preferable and more acceptable to God. Thus, anyone who wants to be close to God and and yet desires marriage, has seen a way.

sexyteeola:
You can live your life without sin. Embrace Holiness

Yet your name is sintee. Any way, we get your message

LordReed:
That's you.

Says the lying evil

Ken4Christ:
You are ignorant of God's word. The Holy Spirit was sent down since the day of Pentecost and he is still with us. Asking the Holy Spirit to come is unbelief. He is with you and in you if you are born again.

You are the one being ignorantt. When The Holy Spirit came down was it upon everyone in the whole world? No. it came upon only those who were worthy to receive it after they were truly changed.