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immortalcrown:
Quote the bible chapter, let us read it together to see if you are right. I mean, the chapter, not just one verse.

Meanwhile, your response is not inline with my comment.

Did The Commandment prohibiting the making and worshiping of an image span a whole chapter? No. Only Verses which Lawyers would call "Section 2 of The Laws of God of the Federal Republic of the Earth'

And you know them e.g.
Exodus 20:4
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

Leviticus 26:1
Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up [any] image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I [am] the LORD your Go

And you people have plenty of standing images made of stones in likeness of things under the earth which you bow down to and kiss and worship.

Deuteronomy 4:16
Lest ye corrupt [yourselves], and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female, (una Mary and St. this and St. that don put you for God's hot oil here)

KnownUnknown:
When did it promulgate this law? Which legislative body assisted or was it by decree? Where is this law written?

Is it not His House (earth), His Laws?

Even before men made their legislative bodies God's Law aka Natural Law whether Criminal Law or Marriage and Family Law or Law of Contracts or Law of Succession were in full Force as already seen in the bible where Abraham had servants and his servants children stood a chance of inheriting (law of succession) his properties if he had not had any children.

And no national or state Iegidlature existed at that time, yet The Laws of Contracts and Family Law and Succession was in Force.

Image123:
Lol, you must have a lot of time.

I did a thread in this, remember?

https://www.nairaland.com/7554359/god-condemned-slavery-7-bible#120625553

tctrills:
Oga if you had any sense you would have read and understand that I was never talking about man adding to God's words but God revealing himself to man even after the bible.
Again, where is it written that revelations is the end of God's word.
Is it written that God would stop revealing his words after the book of revelations.
Please explain and stop acting like a 15 years old heart broken girlfriend.
You are too old for this childishness.

And I am saying that if you are able to appreciate that the way Revelation ended, it is clear for any reasonable person to see that God has Said His all and would definitely not be speaking again as He has already stated everything we need.

KnownUnknown:
5 “But if the slave declares: ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children; I do not want to leave as a free man,’ 6 his master is to bring him to the judges[c] and then bring him to the door or doorpost. His master must pierce his ear with an awl, and he will serve his master for life.


Why does your Bible say “servant”? Servants are free people and are not enslaved so it’s disingenuous that your Bible says servant instead of slave.

Is there something inherently wrong with slavery that the people who wrote your particular Bible had to change the word to servant thereby making the passage meaningless?

Because God made The Law of Contracts and Services aka Contract of Services/Contract for services and servants are bound by their contracts exactly as a company worker or civil servant cannot walk out of his employment without consequences simply because he wants to.

God never approved slavery which is why He was the first to free slaves eg if a slave escapes do not return him. Deuteronomy 23:15. And abolish it by making Laws which strangle slavery
e.g.
2) Leviticus 25:17 "Ye shall not therefore oppress one another; but thou shalt fear thy God:"

3) Exodus 23:9 "Thou shalt not oppress a stranger:

4) Exodus 20:21 "Thou shalt neither vex a stranger nor oppress him:

5) Exodus 20:22 "ye shall not afflict ...a fatherless child".

6) Exodus 23:2 "Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil:"

7) Exodus 23:6 "Thou shalt not wrest the judgement of thy poor in his cause"

Which is why you do not see any jew keeping a slave by the time David became king.

Omo many are mad and browsing So a person can be crucifiecd on 2 crosses at the same time.

Your weed guy is evil.

crystalmoon:
Apathiesm is simply indifference to the gods
You don't consider discussions about gods relevant
It is more of an attitude than ideology

Thus, apathheists will not and should not be here.

Felimax:
How you craftily avoid avoid the image of the Cherubims!
How you craftily ignored the fact that the Ark of the Covenant is only an item yet possess such great powers that could leave a man dead when he is unholy.
You quickly forgot that it was the same God who instructed and gave the template on how the Ark should be designed.

Like it or not the Ark of the Covenant represent the power of God and it's highly venerated.

Oga oya, dismantle the Bronze Serpent?

Is the cherubims not part of the Ark? And you even said "What are the items in the Ark of the Covenant?" NOT ON TOP OF THE ARK.

So, no point here.

Secondly, none of these shows were the jews were worshiping and bowing to the ark or the cherubims. They could not even see it nor come near the tabernacle where it stays.

Neither did they make any images of it in their tents and houses

So, you people are just looking for God's wrath to fall on you just like those who made the golden calf and worshipped it. Like the golden calf worshippers you people are headed for destruction.

safarifarms:
John 3:18
KJ21
“He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God....

You are Wrong!

'Is condemned already" does mean "impossible to be forgiven"

And the bible has clearly shown that blasphemy and great disobedience to God (Re king saul) and whatever Esau did and attempts to deceive God (Re Ananiais and Saphy) are examples impossible to be forgiven.

immortalcrown:
The way some people believe that the power of God is in Church stickers is how the Catholics believe that God is present around statue....

In direct disobedience of God Who Clearly Commanded that "No Image/statue/photograph of Him or any of His Things under heaven should be made or even bowed to"

It is even crazy that this clearly shows that He knew the ways of people and He clearly prohibited it, yet Catholics disobey.

And they thiink that they shall escape hellfire!

Anyway it's their death!

Felimax:
What are the items in the Ark of the Covenant?
Who instructed that images be calved?
Was the Ark of the Covenant an Item for worship?
Do Jews see God through the Ark of the Covenant?
Why so?

Now you are using the Ark of Covenant.

The golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tablets of the covenant are the items in the ark. No point here.

Felimax:
Was the Ark of the Covenant an Item for worship?

No it was not.

The people could not even see it as it was kept in the tarbanacle.

The tarbanacle they could not even enter, they got only to the door and gathered round it's perimeters

So they did not have the opportunity of worshiping the ark not the tabernacle.

Felimax:
Do Jews see God through the Ark of the Covenant?
Why so?

They already knew they had God with them via the pillar of fire/cloud even before the tabernacle so no point here.

And in all these we do not see the jews worshipping and having any images of these things in their tents and houses not bowing down to them , so you have nothing here.

tctrills:
You are right, you should go and leave the space for intelligent people who don't insult to cover up their ignorance and stupidity.
I showed you a verse in Deuteronomy which I am certain you have never come across because you pastor has not shown it to you.
Proud ignoramus.

Common sense would have told you that the Deuteronomy and Revelations Commandments refer to man not adding or removing God's Word.

But that does not block God from adding/removing His Word.

Which is why the prophets added to Deuteronomy by saying God Said it aka "Thus Said The Lord' until Johns own version of Thus Said The Lord, where God tells us everything about the end of this world as earlier prophecied by other prophets.

And common sense would have told you that no one speaks after the end has been given.

Beretta03:
see how you gyrating in the OP'S thread like a headless chicken Typing off point.choke on it homosexuality will be legalized in nigeria soonest....now fvck off..I hope you die single without getting married and carry on with your evangelism if truly you want to inherit your imaginery heaven...if not just know you are living in a fool's paradise

Hahahahahaha! I have already beaten you in everything already sweetly marriedly living in paradise even if dollar enters N2000 to the naira.

And the anti yansh men police in the north will never allow it., so nothing for you rotten joysticks eaters and maggot infested vagina lickers

You shall live and die painfully abomination. hahahahaha.

Thorrn:
Sounds like a non-sequitur to me. How does something not having the capacity to create itself provide conclusive proof that God exists?

It's not because it is seen and proven beyond every reasonable doubt that no thing in this world created itself.

Thorrn:
Going by your logic, God must have been created by something then?

This is goal post shifting for the topic is on proof of God and not on proof that God was created.

world123:
So because they have chosen their path so you think it's okay for them to perish? I thought Christianity is about love / charity
(1 Corinthians 13)?

Have you considered the story of Saul who became Apostle Paul? (Act 9). He chose his path, yet God saved him by the multitude of his tender mercy (Psalm51:1)..

That is what it means to make a choice. Do you beg a babe to still follow you after she has chosen another guy over you and has even declared to the whole world that she shall never ever be with you?

No.

So, as you can see, many have by their own will and force chosen death and hell, so why should anyone pray for dead horses?

Aemmyjah:
Jaephoenix is an ignorant, arrogant clown

And quiite very stupid

slickbak:
Exactly! It’s about power and relevance.

And control

capnies:
WHY DIDN'T GOD TELL ADAM ABOUT HELL. STOP INSULTING GOD HELL MEANS GRAVE

o jw, Lake of fire/hell fire which is what we are talking about when we say hell does not mean grave.

Revelations/Daniel and other scriptures clearly show that men rise up from the grave, so this does not apply.

Michael547:
Thank you baba.....but Mr Dtruthspeaker agenda must agend without any biblical backup.

Revelations and Isaiah and have already told you that man rises up from his death to live again and die no more. Everyone knows this.

Snitch24:
Alot of other pastors would have route for him and probably join his ministry

Ha! Nigerians support another? Almost impossible

BOSSkesh:
You have a very shallow mind
I won’t reply you anymore...

We all know that you cannot counter this for there is no reasonable way you can answer.

Beretta03:
yours is the worst....isis, bokoharam and your own kind butcher you fake preachers like chickens...and the worst part is that you guys are actually being burnt alive to death by muslims...you think typing trash behind phone keyboard means bravery...you are a joke...why not go to the north with your preaching and see whether you will ever see the light of day...mangled rotten brain

Muslims are yansh people like you so you are saying the same thing.

So, rotten joysticks and yansh and vagina rottenings and final destination type deaths still dey follow una smelly yansh and vagina and mouth. Like your sister here.

https://www.nairaland.com/7908406/toto-dey-scratch-me-slay#126922011

Or dis one when your fellow partner abominations don go foq yahoo boy.

https://www.nairaland.com/7903915/girl-mistakenly-kills-friend-fight

AbuTwins:
I don't wish to kill you. But you'll always look for who to call murderer!

Just like murders are litered around the old testament!...

So that is why you all are murderers.

Wow! God is to be greatly feared o. Murdering is in your blood and that is why you are complaining about murderings.

And God Said it that "Your hands shall be against us before any one stsrts being against you".

Wow. So I can truly say that Muslims are murderers thsts why you peopleare murder filled terrorists.

Michael547:
Where does the Bible indicate that it was only the soul of man that was made without his physical body? Just show me a verse where the soul was first made and later put into the physical man. Genesis 2:7 is the first mention of the word soul in relation to man? In that verse was the soul put into man?

Genesis 1:27 is clear enough. No physical body was made then.

tctrills:
God never said that he finished all he wanted to say, that's just your opinion. ...

Please now let it me go for the more I keep talking the more you keep thinking I am insulting you whereas you lack the common sense to know that when a person stops talking, it clearly means that he has said all he wished to say even if he does not say "I have finished talking".

It's simple ordinary common sense but your generation obviously lack it. Damn many parents should answer for this evil.

Michael547:
So where in Genesis 1:26 in the pics below show that God made a soul first and later covered it with humus.
Where is the mention of the word soul in that verse.

Common sense na! Hey your parents are really wicked o.

Genesisis 1, God made heaven and earth yet it is the earth we see and have the details of how He did it

Do you not see that is the same pattern with man in that you are and know only how the man on earth was made but the details of the heavenly man have been kept away justt like the making of the heaven?

See the words .

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

"Created" means already done, so what did God create here?

Answer: The Soul of man.

tctrills:
Oga stop exhibiting your stupidity. Just because you don't have the right answers doesn't mean you should start throwing tantrums and insults. You are not a kid so stop embarrassing yourself. There have been many people giving intelligent answers to the question so I advisce that you humble yourself and quietly learn from more useful human beings.

If you had common sense then you would have known that this question was foolish and D.O.A because anyone with good training would have immediately seen that God finished all He wanted Say in Revelations hence why He warned that nothing should be added to it or taken away from it.

Yet, you still went ahead to ask about adding to the bible, ain't you Satan?

illicit:
Alright

So in essence

Catholics are idol worshippers just like the Babalawo?

Yes. I verily say so.

Michael547:
Show me where God made soul first in the bible. What verse did God made soul first since you are discrediting Genesis 2:7?

I did not discredit Genesis 2. I said Genesis 2 took place second.

Genesis 1:26 shows that is the place where man (the soul) is first made via Mathew 6:10 ""thy will be done on earth AS IT IS IN HEAVEN".

And Genesis 2:7 shows when man is made in earth in line with Mathew 6:10 and other Similar Pronouncements of God.

world123:
What happens to preaching about the mercy of God.

Why make it look like God isn't merciful if we confess with our mouth unto salvation; that is, if we acknowledge our sins (Roman 10:10)...

Are people asking for mercy? Do they acknowledge their sins? And do they want to be saved?

Many have already declared their love for hell so this is not an issue.

So you just make your own choice and move on. These are the days of the rapture and people have made their preferences

Michael547:
Please according to Genesis 2:7 in the pics below....explain how the soul was created first and later covered with humous.

Why are you restricting me to Genesis 2 whereas God's Mind and Acts are een in more places other more than Genesis 2?

Genesis 1 shows that God made man (soul) first, in heaven, before humous man was created on earth "thy will be done on earth AS IT IS IN HEAVEN".

That is why God created the heaven first then earth followed next. And that is God's pattern throughout the bible.

And that is why heaven is greater than the earth.

AbuTwins:

...And father, son and spirit are one!

Clearly proving that your understanding is wrong but anyway is it not that like Pharaoh and co, you do not fear God?

Thus, like pharaoh He will answer you.

And clearly all muslims are the same haviing the same evil spirits of blood hungry murder and blasphemy.