₦airaland Forum

Ola4lead:
How will God put devil to oversee hell when devil himself is a sinner

How will one sinner be punishing another sinner ? Please explain cos the story never clear

Cos that is all we call injustice

That is how to catch liars for the no where did the Bible say, that Satan is in hell waiting to torment other sinners like him.

Wagwanbrethren:
No hell fire, no heaven, no God (s)!🤷‍♂️

The wishes of a fool.

paxonel:
Why do people will rather choose not to be sinful, is it because of the fear of hell fire or because of the fear of the immediate or later consequences?

I know that everyone make mistakes in life, but what kind of mistake do attract hellfire punishment?

Is hellfire enough deterrent for any sin all?
Has anyone had the misfortune to go to hellfire and was back to life, what was your experience?

Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Is the devil and his angels tormenting people in hellfire enough deterrent for sin?

That is what makes people very foolish.

No Thing deters a fool. A fool must always throw himself into destruction.

Ade3000yrs:
12 Questions for every Christian

Regardless of our...

In all that you said, the truth is that you are only complaining because of the hardship of living in Nigeria, hence your many useless questions.

And secondly, you take church going to mean Christianity. Christianity means lovers of God and God takes care of those who love Him, thus, we do not care about such foolish questions because God has already set everything in their places.

Lifestone:
I can't be foolish and disrespectful like Seun, I have alway been fair and considerate to people including my tenants.
When you bring ants infested wood home, how can you blame your neighbor for inability to sleep.
He didn't show respect or fairness to the Policeman, he doesn't deserve one. Only mercy of God can help him out

Therefore, if a man hits you with his bike, you say it is right to run him down with your bus. Do me, I do you. That is why courts can not give just is. You people's law is the law of injustice.

Anyway, I am looking for just is, for I am tired of looking at "not just is".

Lifestone:
Let's focus on OP plenty grammar, I thought he had an idea about what he's writing about, but nope he knew next to nothing.
1st, it's Criminal to assault any person moreso a Nigeria Police man in Uniform.

So a Nigerian policeman in uniform is more superhuman over a Nigerian child in uniform?

That is why you people truly deserve the injustices you get for you all are unjust all together.

Lifestone:
2ndly, Nigeria police is currently investigating and have not started prosecuting, the court has directed that they should forward the outcome of their investigation to the Lagos State director of public prosecution to continue.

3rdly when investigation or searches are, conducted, anywhere in the world it will inconvenience the immediate environment.
So it's Seun Kuti that brought ants infested wood home, he has himself to blame

Obviously you lack any form of justice and did not hear that fair hearing dictates that you can not be a party in your own case.

I pray that one day your landlord will still be the judge who hears your tenancy case in which he sues you.

Therefore, I bless you abundantly with just is that was meted out on Seun and family. Amen.

Rostikol:
I'm just tired of these imported religions.

My ancestors did not worship any white man as their god or ''saviour''.

SO WHY THE HELL should I be doing it JUST BECAUSE some people overpowered my ancestors with guns and bombs to seize their land, and then forced their foreign gods on us?

There is NO REASON I should be worshiping the god of the people who killed and raped my ancestors, and seized/looted their land for a century.

I beg the ancestors for forgiveness for this terrible error on my part.

No wonder we have so many problems in this land. We're worshiping the gods of the people who slaughtered our ancestors.

Speaking their language too.

Dressing like them!

Bleaching our skins to look like them!

Straightening our hair to look like theirs!

Forming accent to sound like them!

Somebody wake me up from this dystopian nightmare!

NONSENSE.

Please, anyone that can suggest a good benevolent deity from ANY ethnicity, whom one can use as his conduit to Divinity, let me know.

I'm DONE with this shit.

Thanks all.

What a mad ravings of a lunatic. Was it nairaland that imposed Him on you? Why did you not go and shout on your direct ancestors who are in your front with you?

Yet, you timidly went behind their backs to stab them.

Blake755:
No mind them people that looted Egypt dry and other Africa countries and left them with religion after killing them

And Egypt didn't loot others dry and did those same things abi? You really do not have anything to say.

AntiChristian:
Correct your typo!

Corrected.

kkins25:
4) If God created Good and Evil, then God himself didn't know Good and evil until it was created . It's either He didn't create it or he did. I[b]f he did then we can deduce that God is subject to his own creation which is good.[/b] Since he cannot do Evil, then he set a limit on himself and is subject to that limit. Did God create Good and Evil, or did they Create God?

This is you speaking foolishly and presumptuously.

God is The Greatest and He is The Only Creator Who is beyond the power of His creation.

Acid will burn the maker of acid a but The Creator of water can not be drowned by water.

Your stupidity is making you reason like a lunatic, just go your own way and attend to your business. Understanding God is like a 4 year old trying to understand 4 figure table. It is beyond your capability, so buzz off.

Aemmyjah:
U mind am
So many children have invaded NL with their childish thinking

Actually, it is so many stupid children.

GoodIsGod:
It is obvious you didn't bother to read the post. You only responded to the headline.
The "forget" in the statement does not mean you should not remember because it is not possible not to remember. Even kids remember the wrongs people do to them.
Forget means to pretend it never happened. Because the more you remember the offence the more tendency for you to renew the hatred or quarrel.

Stay blessed

The "forget" was the part I was interested in, so I focused on it.

Secondly, forget does not mean an act to pretend that something evil or bad did not happen. rather it means a refusal to act and take cognisance of a certain bad conduct.

But it does not mean that you can not remember such a bad conduct so as to guide your way and prevent future harm.

No where did God Say you should put yourself in harms way.

delkuf:
how do you forgive without forgetting

Easy! By the very meaning of forgive, you do not require a forgetting.

To forgive practically means to not act/respond based on an offence. Thus, you can give a non response to an offence without having to forget the fact and lessons learnt from the offence.

Following the Kuti case, it can be seen that Seun has suffered more than one week "punishment" for his offence of assault.

Whereas, the "just is" for assault under Law (also proclaimed by legal), is damages.

However, it is seen that he is caught up in a vengeance, vendetta mission and the police have been 'taking the Law into their hands" (as they always say) which they call self help.

Thus, right now, the police have been self helping themselves and giving themselves just is, because of Seun's assault. And no one has stopped them. Not even the court of legal, if anything, the court shows that it is not a court of Law.

For, if it was a court of Law, it would immediately know that now the police is the one committing several occasions of assault upon Seen and even now has extended it to Seun's family.

Seun only assaulted one man, but now the police have assaulted Seun, his wife, his house etc.

And of course all this is not permitted under Law, for the first Law is that the police can no longer prosecute this matter since it is a party itself, under their so called self help.

It is exactly as how they say that because a person attacks you with a bottle, you can not be the one to kill the assailant. They say you should come to them for justice. Of which this stands because they are not a party to the dispute and it is The Law that judges and prosecutors should not be a party to a suit under the Law of fair hearing. "Nemo judex in causa sua"/Audi alterem partem.

The police violate this rule for they are both party and prosecutor of this case, which is a very very wrong and a fundamental breach of Seun's rights and the rights of Seun's family.

This is a gross violation of Rights and miscarriage of just is and assault as committed by the police upon Seun and his family leading to Seun being punished for an offence even before the court punishes him, if at all the court would have punished him.

Thus, the police has seized jurisdiction from the courts and have been "taking law into their own hands" by punishing him through torture via handcuffs, public embarrassment and ridicule through parading him alongside other criminals, still moving forward to "in prison" him even before the court hears the matter ... and the violation is endless.

Thus, Seun has already suffered more than double jeopardy and Is now entitled to be released immediately without further prosecution or persecution and it is his turn now to sue the police for the gross violation of his natural rights.

If his advocates had known that Law is not the same as legal and that legal is a fake weak law which is why it is always doing injustice, maybe since Monday, the case would have been transferred to another independent and impartial body for due prosecution, if they think fit.

Just my opinion of Law and why there is injustice in the judiciary.

Legal is not the same as Law.

https://www.nairaland.com/6989896/lawyers-not-deceit#110283265

Nickisindigo:
Their is difference between next of kin and the heir to your wealth

Your next of kin might not necessarily inherited your wealth

Nok is supposed to inherit whatever is there but legal just used it deceive people that they are respecting people's natural right, whereas, they have used it bring people into unlawful submission and control (Rule).

Probates/letters of administration are just frauds used for exercising control over a people and to place the unlawful rulers in a position to steal people's properties just as Polaris bank has done to the man who they claimed that they got a report that he was dead even though he is alive and has even physically reported to the bank. Yet they have not given him back his money.

Do you see the daylight robbery?

It has no value since legal does not act on it.

When you need the nok, it is then legal will tell you to go and pay and get the permission of a Judge, in the name of another legal paper called probate or letter of administration for you to take what is already yours under Law.

GoodIsGod:
*FORGIVE AND FORGET IS IMPOSSIBLE* 😮...

No where did God say "forgive and forget," only "forgive".

And it is evil people who always say "forgive and forget" and only a fool will listen to this counsel which definitely cometh from the world.

Maynmaynmayn:
Your indoctrinated and brainwashed life will make you live a life of regrets and dis shamefully like a dog.

Stupid Fool, I found the promises of God and have been living a very sweet and prosperous life since I was young and now I am on my way to old. But fools like you are already destroyed even before you are 30.

LordReed:
You are not reasonable. LoLz.

You are the one who is unreasonable and even right now you are proving it.

Cybertroll:


You're insane! Lmao.

You mean you do not know you are insane? Up to the point that you do not know that you are God's property just like your phone is your property?

Boy, your foolishness is burying you while you are still living..

Cybertroll:
Did she know she would be the mother?

So it's still unfair. And did God ask for her permission? Or she was just a body to be used? Did he have to impregnate a girl?

How you people just destroy your own selves with your foolishness.

Do you take permission from your phone to impregnate it with apps?

Or if your my phone says you have impregnated your phone would you be happy?

TenQ:
SMH!

1. Allah: who has two Right Hands on his right shoulder
...

Allah has 2 right hands? That is clearly a birth defect.

AntiChristian:
[b][color=#770077]Christians should know that Islam is against any idea of God being anthropomorphic. It is something we cannot imagine to believe and even if we were to agree, we would agree to disagree.
The doctrine of God becoming man is what Christians claim non - Christians wouldn't be able to fathom unless we possess a spirit, a spirit best know to them.

As a theist, I find it preposterous, insulting and blasphemous to imagine, think and then believe that God who created the whole universe, the complex humans, the fishes, animals etc. will come down to eat, be circumcised, suffer in the hands of men and then crucified even though the Bible isn't specific about the time their God turned man was executed....

No Christian compels you to agree but the most important thing is that A King has a right to determine how He shall visit His domain and how He shall relate with His Subjects.

It is God's Right whether you like it or not!

LordReed:
LoLz. Not interested in hashing out anything with you, you are incapable of being reasonable.

First, my response was towards the op and not you. Secondly, it is known you are an evil thing and that when you see that all your evil arguments are batted aside, the next thing you will do is to insult God (blaspheme) like the true Satan indwelled you are.

Thus, you already know that all your falls and lying arguments and twistings will not work with me hence your inability to reasonably argue with me, unlike others who do not catch your evil doublespeak and word play.

kkins25:
... but, allow me to ask, Is it possible for God to be good and evil? ...

Are you yourself not good and evil?

Or for more accuracy, are you yourself not capable of doing both good and evil?

LordReed:
Excellent.

You praise a mad and twisted and jumbled analysis of a child who has confessed that he doesn't know what he says?

Your fall towards insanity is a wonder and sight to behold.

kkins25:
If God has all the power, then answer the following:

Can God be unjust?
is God capable of Hate? to sum them up...
Is God capable of Evil?

Your word is "capable" meaning ability even if that action in view has not been done exactly as you are capable of stealing even though you have never stolen.

Therefore the answer is yes. He has the ability!

But just no one can call you a thief, unless and until you steal so also you can not call God unjust and evil unless and until He has done an act which we justifiably call unjust and evil.

And since He has never done anything unjust or evil, then it is therefore right to say that God is just and good exactly as you are entitled to be called a honest citizen since we have not seen you steal.

So, your opinion and analysis is completely wrong and off target!

Maynmann:
What will they throw, My human body?

Your ignorance will make you a Yahweh worshipper till you D I E!

Your lack of wisdom will make you live and die miserably!

jaephoenix:
So where did Yahweh get the materials he used to create the earth?

Who cares? Even you never asked where Rolls Royce gets their materials used in creating their cars.

jaephoenix:
So where did Yahweh get the materials he used to create the earth?

Who cares?

jaephoenix:
People that are dense like DTruthSpeaker make up the bulk of Africans. Reason why scientific discoveries are far from us

You haven't either so you must be denser to not remember that you haven't either!

Maynmann:
You don’t need music to stay alive, ...

When you are thrown into prison, you would know that music is life!