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jaephoenix:
Do you know Job is mortal, and can fail?

My son is mortal and can fail ICAN. But my son is mortal and he is my champion and I tell ICAN, bring your worst, my son will still crush all your levels.

jaephoenix:
So if he fails those tests and goes to hell, who do we blame?

Before the journey to hell there is always an enquiry and judgement as to why you failed/why he did not pass.

And you always go to hell because the after exam assessment shows you could have passed it if you truly wanted to.

Your parents punished you for failing an exam you could pass.

And they praise and honour you greatly, with great many gifts for passing an exam they thought you could not pass.

That is the way it is.

So, you are talking rubbish because you do not have any reasonable thing to say.

Aemmyjah:
You're the first to mention that Jesus made reference to the ten commandments?

You're the first to mention that the law was the constitution of Israel?

You are the first to mention that God was pleased with Job?

You're the first to mention that God does not support slavery?

All these FACTS are as old as history back to Jesus' time

So go and rest

You de read back of Bible

They are facts yet you nor anyone else never knew them to say them, so you are talking rubbish just because you have nothing reasonable to say anymore .
So go and die.
You dey read Bible as Satan take dey read am after all you be hin pikin.

MaxInDHouse:
Devil is the advocate of self-belief where you can't associate with ..

What do Prostitutēs, Naijabet, atheism, jw have in common?
Answer: evil products always scouring for gullible consumers.

Kobojunkie:
What he said does since Jesus Christ no even send anyone to dey preach marriage using His name. Also, Scripture does not say a man and woman ought to obtain permission from either father or mother before marriage.

Scripture did not say you need to consent of the woman to marry her.

Kalatium:
People who are unsure about the existence of a God but keep an open mind and recognize the limits of human knowledge and experience according to your definition are also atheist.

People are not unsure they just hate God and don't want Him ruling over them.

Even the children of Israel who God used to resound His Name did not also want Him.

Kalatium:
You have a point , however what you are saying seems to be assumptions or what you grew up knowing not based on facts.

The fact is we have seen that in this world no thing can build itself. It is always built by another. And this House we call the earth cannot build itself. Therefore, it must be built by a Person. It is that Person Whom we acknowledge and respect that we call God in whatever dialect we have.

Therefore, as Abdul, said, there isn't any nation which does not have a Name in respect and reverence of He Who created this House, which we popularly call "God".

Kalatium:
Here is a difference between the two terms.

Refusing to recognise attributes of God is denial of God

Refusal to acknowledge any evidence of God is still denial of God!

So you see, it is still the same thing.

Doveheart:
What the pastor said doesn't translate him to a false prophets. Don't let us be too ash in our judgement. Everyone has a point on their own believe and opinion

I agree. He is not trying to make a false statements only a wrong one. Paying bride price presumes that proper and due process has been followed.

Kalatium:
... Religion is evolving, hope you know that scientology is a religion . We have people who call themselves spiritual but do not practice religion.

Yeah! That is what I tell all those thinking that they can escape religion or kill religion. They just make a fool of themselves.

Kalatium:
Then you didn't initially understand my point.

From my article, what is more rampant these days is more of antitheism than atheism.
They are not exactly the same thing.

And I disagree. Misappropriation is stealing as antitheism is still atheism.

Kalatium:
Religion has reached a point where if it didn't reform it will have to be discarded.

Religion can never be discarded because you people do not real eyes that religion means "a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion"

The serious Love and Respect for God is just one of the several pursuits that a person can undertake. And pursuit of interest has always been personal, thus, even a person who is very much devoted to technology is still a religionist.

Kalatium:
So what is your point

My point is antitheism is still atheism described for short.

Doveheart:
... All these court marriage is boundage

I agree.

All this court marriage shit is just a control and bondage placed by criminals and bandits when they overun and conquer a territory, so as to get the people to submit to their unlawful rule and control.

That is why constitution and all these manmade laws are unlawful and God does not support any man ruling over other men in the deception of democracy or any crazy thing.

And the funny thing is that these criminals still used God's Law of respecting the family of the intending couple (consent) banning kin marriages (prohibited marriages) to protect their unlawfulness, that is why most people do not notice that this rulers are wrong and unlawful.

Doveheart:
How do you know he's notified them. You can't be sure.

Is it possible for a man to live in his father's house with a wife? No.

They would have paid their respects to her parents before taking her in. And of course this was in those days when women had respect and dignity and therefore could not be taken out of her father's house without recourse to due process.

MaxInDHouse:
Of course Jesus is the way but do you care to know the one and only organization of Jesus' disciples today?
Satan infused his agents among them after the death, resurrection and ascension of Jesus back to heaven {Matthew 13:25} so in the first century the apostles confirmed that apostacy spearheaded by the AntiChrist has begun {1John 2:18-19} and these false Christians led many into paganism that's why Jesus called out his sheep from their midst! Revelations 18:4 compare to Matthew 13:30

So will you like to know the organization of true disciples of Christ in our time?

The jw devil has come. Satan is desperate.

oz4real83:
The hunger created by Buhari is getting serious oo, some are even getting mad . Garri is good to quench hunger if you don't have access to other good food, op please beg your neighbor for some garri to stop that your hunger

God is already punishing the devils even while they are still alive, as prophecied so they get madder and madder everyday speaking blasphemies because of their punishments.

Another set of blasphemies today. Ah, that means God is moving again.

Thank you Lord that the devils we see today shall soon be carried away into their everlasting punishment.

cosiocan:
The Jews don't believe He's the Son of יהוה‎ yet they claim He ...

The Jews are mad devils and if not for the power of God through Moses, they would have casted him aside and reject him.

So you are talking rubbish devil.

Kalatium:
What most people refer today as atheism is what I appropriately termed as Anti-theism.

You are talking rubbish like saying appropriation and misappropriation is not stealing.

Atheism and anti theism means Hatred and refusal to acknowledge The Person of God and other connected purposes.

Which of course is an old phenomenon since men saw that they had the power to disregard, disrespect and disobey God.

AbdulMagaji:
I was born in a community were I observed the traditions closely as a kid.

Having grown up with my family I came to the realization that the old testament serves as the basis on which my traditions were built.

Now when translated into English, we refer to God in my tradition as follows

Mighty God or God almighty

God the creator

God that never changes = I am that I am

So we do not relate with any white Jewish assumptions as we already knew who God is before the British brought in the new testament.

It is a waste of your time arguing with that mad devil. He is both mad and a devil.

BRATISLAVA:
Not very convincing.

The more excuses you make for God, the more WICKED I know he is.

If he could punish the most faithful man on Earth to prove a point to the devil, a man you said was his friend, then the OP is righteous and loyal.

Cut him some slack.

The mere fact that you could not give a reasonable counter just proves that you have no reasonable case against God and seeing that you have nothing reasonable to say, you are just showing that you are unreasonably biased and you love being unreasonably biased.

For I have just shown you that it was a challenge in which Job was God's Heavy weight Champion of the world against Satan and every champion must prove his championess by very hot competition.

So you are just talking rubbish because you are a devil and have nothing reasonable to say.

Aemmyjah:
Apart from you, who else have said that Jesus and Joseph were not close? ...

I was first here to point out that Jesus was talking and teaching us about The Commandment

I was the first here to say that The Commandment was the constitution of Israel.

I was the first here to say and show that God was very much happy with Job that He used him to boast and challenge Satan.

And even recently, I was the first to point out that God was the First to free slaves and never supported slavery. (And on this one no one anywhere has ever said it)

So, it is not unusual that I am the first, for I love observing things and I have seen and observed that every year something new jumps at me from the Bible, so i study more and more, and argue more and more, to see what new thing may come out.

BRATISLAVA:
You sound like God right now, don't you?

Assuming you all went through it, why have none of you given him any reasonable solution except accusations?

There is no solution once you miss the opportunity in Proverbs 1:24/25

"Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;"

BRATISLAVA:
Wouldn't it be amusing if you were to end up in hell too?...

Not really!

I know I am qualified to be burned. And God i have seen that God is A Lawyer, as i am too, so I know guilt exactly how God sees it and I am guilty, if charged.

But God in His Goodness again, Made A Way of Escape. It got covered up the first time that people no longer knew it but God again brought it back through His Son Jesus Christ.

And so recognising that I am guilty, I am at least trying by all skill and diligence to find The Way.

And I have indeed found The Way, which is where I am taking from.

BRATISLAVA:
We are all sons of devils...

True!

But we have a right to change fathers. And I choose God to be my Father and I choose to listen and obey God and be punished by Him rather than to listen to Devil and be blessed by him.

I choose to suffer under God or for pursuing God rather than stay peacefully with Devil.

Those are the decisions i made every day till one day, I got out and The Sweet Lord blessed me and blessed me and blessed me, and even in this end time plagues and suffering, it is still very well with me and my house, as also prophecied.

My soul bless The Lord for He is very very Good and His Mercy endureth forever!

BRATISLAVA:
Wait. Because he was a good guy, a friend of God, God answered the prayers of the devil to punish Job?

Make it make sense, please. Is that the work of a merciful God?

Is that how your own friendships work?

Yes, I am pained and aggrieved. Yes, I am spiritually blind. Now, answer me.

When you are sure and happy that your son is intelligent you grant the prayers of your wicked uncles, neighbour and WAEC to test him.

When you are sure that your wife is loyal, you grant the prayers of your wicked mother/friends and relations to test her.

When you are sure your employee is faithful, you grant the prayers of your wicked friend to test him.

And when these all pass, how greatly happy are ye that ye love them even more.

Aemmyjah:
According to truthspeaker
A man and his attendant has a very close relationship than that of a righteous man who was the foster father to the son of God
Ask him for proof
He has none

We have all seen when a man and his attendant is close and when they are not close.

We have all seen when a father and son is close and when they are not close.

The omenous silence and absence of Joseph around Jesus can not be missed. Mary was specifically mentioned and identified periodically being around and near Jesus BUT NOT JOSEPH.

As you jws are devils it is not beyond you people to add to the Bible after all you have even removed from it.

BRATISLAVA:
Out of all the different, evil people on Earth, it is only his sins that God sees?...

What happened to him happened to everyone, but some us listened and got out. But obviously he didn't listen his fault.

BRATISLAVA:
I realized that people who have this problem are those who try to live their lives right, then God decides to be most evil and merciless to them. Makes sure to make them suffer more than anyone else...

Is this not obviously the Job scenario which we have all noticed?

Every normal person has noticed that once they decide to do the right thing, life and living gets worse and when we agree that we are not doing again, it returns to normal.

It was this observation that made me know that Satan was real. So, anyone who wanted to get out of Satan's kingdom of sin, would have gotten out, if they wanted to for it is a very obvious sign as you yourself has noticed.

So just say you are here to blaspheme God because these are the days that He had foretold that He would begin punishing you devils and sons of devils since you chose not to get out and stop being devils.

For God has already been too good but you devils love being devils and now it's your time to burn. You people ain't seen nothing yet, you are going to scream to the point that you would be unable to blaspheme no more before you continue in lava. You kukuma have lava in your name, so you know your destination.

BRATISLAVA:
Why doesn't God want to show him mercy?...

See how you guys prove you are blind. I said it up here that God has already shown him and all of us mercy in Talking. It is now up to him.

BRATISLAVA:
Same Job was told he's a sinner and terrible person that his life was not as good as that of his friends, yet God was behind his predicament. I'm sure he prayed and still suffered for many years without any answers. So why act like the OP did something wrong?

You people are really blind. The Bible clearly shows that job was already a friend of God which is what made God so happy that He use him to boast and taunt and challenge Satan.

And you and this guy are not job.

BRATISLAVA:
Why are you guys afraid to admit that God is also the torturer? What if this guy is just another victim?

Just say that you are here to blaspheme God because of your frustrations and the great pains of living as prophecied in Revelation 16:9/11.

Even loved Esau, Saul, Solomon, Hezekiah were cut off forever so who are you.

Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;

25 But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:

26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;

27 When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.

28 Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:

God spoke to us in Proverbs 1:24-28 and obviously, like you, he did not listen until it was too late.

jaephoenix:
Answer this simple question…
Does yahweh answer the prayer of sinners?

It depends on what you are asking for and how far deep you are in sins and if He spoken to you in the past but you did not listen to Him.

Aemmyjah:
Shameless personl
Comparing the relationship of an old man and his attendant to that of a Father and son...

"When The Debate Is Lost, Slander Becomes The Tool Of The Loser".

BRATISLAVA:
What happened to mercy?

The Mercy is that God, Inspite of His great hatred for sinners, still pushed through our sins and reached out to us to talk to us, which He does not have to do for exactly as we treat out phones where we destroy and throw away our damaged phones. He could and can still always do that to us but He rather chose to endure the pain of our sins and talk to us, that we may get out of that place and not be destroyed.

So, God has been very very mercy giving to the full.

BRATISLAVA:
I'm sure if the devil said it wants to repent it would be forgiven,

It is because of mercy you could say this for if God was like us, Satan would have been in tormentous punishment since and every new Satan would be going the same way, no matter how many they are.

BRATISLAVA:
but why can't this guys prayers be answered? Is he worse than the devil before God? Serial killers are forgiven but not this guy, or what?

As I said, God has already done a lot in talking to us, but if he does not listen to God nor do what God has Said, that is his fault.

BRATISLAVA:
Ask any atheist. Most of them were christians facing problems that prayers never solved.

We all know! But I always ask them did you do anything different from what others before you have done?

Since the missionaries landed here, people have always acknowledged that they have prayed so much and did not get answers, then one day when they were tired of praying, then their prayer got answered.

This should tell people something, but people never listen and never pay attention and most importantly they never learn what God teaches and that is the problem with church goers and those who think that church going means "Christianity".

BRATISLAVA:
The accusatory attitude of other christians doesn't help. Someone tells them his life is miserable and has been since kindergarten, and the best thing they can come up with us that he's not a real Christian, that he's a sinner, that he's not been praying to God. Excuses for God, as if any of them know why God doesn't answer him

Unfortunately, it is the Truth and the ground on which every man is born into. It is the clear proof of God and that He did curse the man.

He is not the first to have experienced this, we all have and therefore, we are all speaking from that knowledge.

BRATISLAVA:
I think the OP has tried all that is believed to be the silver bullet of Christianity, and it hasn't worked.

If people have been cooking Edikaikong Soup and yours did not turn out right, it means that you did not do it right.

So all he has done does not work because he has not done what he is supposed to do!

kingxsamz:
Not my fault I don't understand the language of mad people. Since you're a mad man, you can explain.

That is what mad people say when normal people speak.