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jaephoenix:
There's no need. Even the ones we've been telling you here have been ignored by you

Of course why would I not ignore you when you say that I should fetch water with a fork!

FRANCISTOWN:
If the moon and the stars don't do that, what does then? Maybe God hung a huge florescent in the sky. grin

See I said moonless night yet you still put the moon. Also, every sees that a dying torch light is still brighter than the light from the stars to bright up a village on a moonless night, not to talk of a night when the fluffy clouds cover the sky and no star, yet we can still see the shapes of houses and trees in the village, so you have no thing.

FRANCISTOWN:
..Nopity Nope. We even had faith in the imaginary God more than you could imagine

We wanted him when we didn't know him.
We stopped wanting him when we knew the ideology behind him

Today's noisemakers were your yesterday you, You did exactly what they have always done for centuries, which is make noise with prayer, cram the Bible, preach to would be yous, make your pastor and church happy, and sit back and wait for God.

In the end all was vanity. No God, No Answered requests, nothing but your fruitless lives.

FRANCISTOWN:
I've said it before, I do not like to go twice.
Please study the above bible verses that I explained earlier in Exodus and Leviticus and Jeremiah... Thanks

At least you have now abandoned the Ephesians and Phil, you raised

So Exodus and Leviticus.
The whole world practiced slavery and so they had already taken slaves and used to having slaves before God came to meet them exactly as Africa was already used to having more than one wife before God was introduced to us and now having one wife is part of our living.

So this is God laying the first form of attack against slavery BY RELEASING ALL SLAVES WHO HAVE BEEN TAKEN BEFORE HIS COMING, WHICH AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE TIME OF THE JUDGES, YOU DO NOT SEE ANY SLAVE AROUND, ONLY CONTRACTS OF SERVICE, HENCE SERVANTS LIKE PUBLIC SERVANTS.

On Jeremiah i stand corrected, Isreal like the world never always obey God, but you still prove that God loves the release of slaves in that it is always "To the Hebrew first"

Romans 1:16; Luke 24:47; Romans 2:9.

Everything whether good or bad first starts with the Hebrews first..

All extensively dealt with in my thread

https://www.nairaland.com/7593172/eternal-synagogue-civilized-atheist-movement#121400778

FRANCISTOWN:
... In philosophy (I do not claim an authority in this body of diverse knowledge) philosophy has it that natural law is a system of right or justice held to be common to all humans and derived from nature rather than from the rules of society, or positive law.

When, You go to philosophy to look for Laws? if you see a person going to plank market to look for a novel, would you not call him mad?

FRANCISTOWN:
I was alive during Ex-President Umar Musa Yar'adua (of blessed memory) government and still alive.
Nonetheless , I still can't give a report about his government in present perfect tenses

That would be your fault because last Saturday's election report was given in present tense by those present.

"Peter Obi Wins Lagos State by bobobenz: 10:39am On Feb 27
Peter Obi, the presidential candidate of the Labour Party (LP), has won the presidential election in Lagos state.

He defeated Bola Tinubu, the All Progressives Congress (APC) standard bearer, after the votes were calculated from all the 20 LGAs in the state.

Tinubu is a former Lagos governor and the state is historically his stronghold.APC: 572, 606"

NO PAST TENSE AT ALL IN THE REPORT!

FRANCISTOWN:
Nothing about God has ever been true, show me any real life thing that can prove me otherwise.

You did not create yourself nor this House called world yet you call God a Liar.

jaephoenix:
Maybe I need my eyes checked, but I was under the impression Jesus said 'go ye into the world'. He didn't say 'some of ye'
I even read all the Bible versions. Same shit

Don't bother, you are already useless, There is nothing redeemable not repairable in you or on you, for you are already blind and deaf.

jaephoenix:
I bothered to look up that verse for you. Here are the versions. Choose any one you like

Here comes a devil who says thathouseboys/girls, cleaners, personal assistants should not obey their bosses and employers.

tctrills:
When you ask which sexual attraction it makes no sense. There is only one standard definition of sexual attraction. But if you have another definition please teach

You have already agreed that there is uncleanness, therefore, there is a clean sexual attraction and there is an unclean one. hence, which one!

And the mere fact that you keep dodging it, has clearly settled it.

TheSourcerer:
Lol like you will really deactivate and stop talking about God or praying 1

I am not a liar, I said I will deactivate. I did not say that I would stop loving God.

But to show that God Wins all the time, I will up the stakes and say "I will become an atheists if there is anyone who can validly, reasonably and Truthfully counter my position."

So fire away it is all in record here.

TheSourcerer:
Me I'm not even trying to convince you or your folks lol mention someone who actually cares freeing you
#SipsWhiteWine

You already know that I have defeated you severally in the past so you are tired of being beaten, so it is understandable why you sit in the audience.

So call your bests. Let's see if they shall not lose.

LordReed:
So they can kill atheists and you'll be comfortable with that because according to you they are exercising their right to hate atheists....

We already have a right to kill atheists and other devils.

The Law says evil must be killed. That is why we have the death penalty.

Evil people are just lucky and unlucky that God allowed men to rule themselves and create their own laws called legal with which they use to do anything they like, so therefore this Law cannot be peacefullly enforced.

Atheists are liars!

Trollronaldo:
I think homosexuality is a cultural thing and criminalizing it is relative

Man is not the maker of criminal law, God is.

But because men fought God to let them rule themselves, they started making their own laws which is where they created the laws known as legal.

And yet legal is so weak that it cannot stand at all except it is connected to God's Laws.

Law comes from God and even though man created their own legal and can determine that he would punish you for anything, in the end you are still going to answer to God, The Law!

That is where every homosexual, and adulterer and fornicator is in trouble.

Kalatium:
I am not going off point instead you are...

The thread says and shows you did.

You by yourself defined atheism as "refusal to acknowledge the evidence of God" meaning "denial of God.

Thus I said
"Refusing to recognise attributes of God is denial of God

Refusal to acknowledge any evidence of God is still denial of God!

So you see, it is still the same thing"

Then you said
quote author=Kalatium post=121352424]

[People who are unsure about the existence of a God but keep an open mind and recognize the limits of human knowledge and experience according to your definition are also atheist.[/quote]Where your change of post began!

So, as I said, the thread shows you went off point!

KnownUnknown:
Religion is not complex!!!! It’s only “complex” when you attempt to make nonsense make sense and it turns into a Gordian knot. Once you get the blade of reason and shirk the cloak of gullibility, you can cut the Gordian knot to pieces.

If you cut the knot to pieces does it not mean that you hated the knot in the first place and never wanted it?

If you did not want the knot then why did you go to it to cut it?

When someone comes to cut your knots are you not going to attack that person for trespassing and being a devil?

Since you do not like nor understand the knot game then you should have stayed off and continued minding your business. That is what good people do.

TheSourcerer:
There's one here still defending the Religion like a blind deaf mouse lol

And yet none give any reasonable and valid counter in opposition.

I am willing to deactivate and let you people have your way and go silent if any of you give a reasonable, valid and true answer in opposition, within the laws of decent debate.

So you all can take your shots.

tctrills:
We both agree that uncleanness is against God but that was not my question. My question was about sexual attraction. Or is it a sin to be sexually attracted to someone?

Hence my question which sexual attraction? Is it the clean and proper one or the unclean and improper one?

And I addressed the unclean and improper one.

Dliquidmetal:
I'm not a theist lol,I think you misunderstood me.
I was meant to quote "Dliespeaker"

LottiOk:
...I'm not much of a writer but his know I'm following u & dis thread & am loving how u r disgracing that fanatic dliespeaks. as I can already see, he has lost d argument & imploying insults & imaginary victory to himself. He's not worth anyone's time but if I feel I can put him permanently in his place den, throw down d gauntlet & show him no mercy just like his evil imaginary sky daddy does.

Yet no matter how many times we have crossed words you could not point out where I lied, nor could you ever give a reasonable and valid counter.

As I always tell you people, you people were already atheists even before you went to church and became a churchgoer.

You never knew God nor ever wanted Him. You all treated God exactly how you treat people especially bitches. You al want the pussy but you don't want the girl.

And in God's case, you can not get anything from Him, if you do not have a relationship with Him.

But exactly how you bad mouth a girl who rejects you, is how you sons of devils bad mouth God only to teal eyes that unlike a girl, God can always always deal with you, whenever He is ready to.

So you are all just here making noise and talking thrash because God has not yet turned to face you as He did to Pharoah after 400 years of runny mouth.

And here is your man employing insults even before we came, but as usual with you unjust and unfair devils, you did not talk about it.

FRANCISTOWN:
Before our religious simpletons will start running their mouth...

tctrills:
So you really think that the biology of sexual attraction is evil. Humm I see.

As I said 'all uncleanness and lust and things against nature"

FRANCISTOWN:
God never told them that, you are helping God again by saying what he didn't say.

God did not tell Abraham that If you pass my tests I will bless you. "No be everything dem dey tell pesin"'.

FRANCISTOWN:
.They still had slaves after the freedom, even Paul supported slavery in Eph 6:5-8, even Paul returned a runaway slave to the master in Phil 1:12

Yet you do not show the slave.

Ephesians 6:5-8 said servants and it is talking about normal employment and service. Of course you must be a devil to say that houseboys/girls, cleaners and personal assistants should disobey their bosses and employers.

Philemon 1:10-12 shows us that that was "Paul's own son "Onesimus" he said, not a slave. Philipians 1:12 did not say anything about slave.

So you see, you do not show anyone keeping a slave after God's commandments released them all.

https://www.nairaland.com/7554359/god-condemned-slavery-7-bible

FRANCISTOWN:
No1. Let's not get personal, trust me, you don't wanna travel this lane with me...

"Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh"

"People seem not see that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character" Ralph Waldo Emerson.

FRANCISTOWN:
First of all, state the natural law that supports your argument.

See, you are full of you don't knows yet, you make so much noise as the empty vessels proverb said.

I said it "only a Person who was present at a particular time in view who gives a report in a present continuous tense".

You Francis can not give the report of Buhari's first rule in 1985 in present tense because you were not there. But Jerry Gana and Useni can.

That is The Law!

FRANCISTOWN:
You can be at the field of event, you can have a one on one interview, from publications , audio tape , information passed from one person to another e.t.c. for instance I can write so many things about my grandfather, but I didn't even meet the man. He died before I was born.

Now you show you do not know "demsay" (hearsay) evidence and that hearsay evidence is not evidence of Truth unless and until it meats certain conditions.

Yet you come here to make so much racket against God.

FRANCISTOWN:
Have you seen the back of the cover page for that book?

This is what is called CHANGE OF POST, therefore invalid argument. I bet you also did not know this.

FRANCISTOWN:
That's the moon. And your God created that in verse 16 of Gen 1

Have you not seen that it is not every night that the moon comes out? and that it does not come out for at least 15 nights?

You don't have any valid thing to say on this.

FRANCISTOWN:
When did I ever say "I hate God".

Have you not heard actions speak better than words?

FRANCISTOWN:
I'm not covering up for nobody, they are more than intelligent to cover up for themselves

Then you should have let them speak for themselves and cover themselves and not you trying to cover for them.

FRANCISTOWN:
On which issue again please

Just touch the name of the reply poster and it would always take you back to the place where statements made and issues raised regarding the cause of that response came from. That is why it is called a thread. We leave trails as we post, so we can see all the issues presented and the responses to them.

FRANCISTOWN:
Have God apologized to me? (Oh! He doesn't exist) .By the way which God should I apologise to, YHWH, Allah, Krishna. I get it, when he shows up, I'll apologize.

At least this proves that you have not apologized to God. So till the Day the 2 of you meet!

FRANCISTOWN:
Till we die, we keep offending our parents though they are not Omnibenevolents yet they've not killed us.

And the relationship with our parents clearly shows us trying not to offend our parents. You even avoid doing the big big things and offences which you know that it would guarantee you being cut off from them.

But as you have proven here already, you have no regard for God so you do not care about having a relationship with Him or Him cutting you off.

And your blasphemies have already guaranteed your cut off from Him, so you can go on living your life without bothering about God things, after all you are "free".

FRANCISTOWN:
You are not getting it right. Atheists and apatheists don't complain about God because he doesn't exist.

see how you show you people are mad liars. Isn't this thread full of the stupid complaints you raise against God? eg

FRANCISTOWN:
"Merciful God" killed the Egyptian's first child of every household after he had hardened Pharoah's heart..
Someone dies of hunger every 4 seconds, earthquakes, famine e.t.c, innocent children are being molested....

You have no thing! Just go and live your outcast living.

FRANCISTOWN:
You don't read your Bible, but don't worry we got you. Mark 16:15-16
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. !

That is the "God made some people to go out to preach and tell everyone." I said. If not God lovers would not tell anybody anything, so that you people can continue walking and doing as you like till you enter the whole of complete destruction.

FRANCISTOWN:
Lemme school, because obviously you do not read that your Bible 1 John 4:20 says if anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen." You do not have love in your heart did Jesus not ask you to pray for your enemies? But because even you know that prayers don't do jack.

hehehe! Who is my brother? Mark 3:35 ''Only those who love God and keep His Commandments".

Therefore, it is right to hate all you "I hate God people" for you are not my brothers or my neighbour but my enemies and God's enemies

So this is my prayer for them

Remember this, that the enemy hath reproached, O Lord, and that the foolish people have blasphemed thy name.

22 Arise, O God, plead thine own cause: remember how the foolish man reproacheth thee daily.

23 Forget not the voice of thine enemies: the tumult of those that rise up against thee increaseth continually ;

Set them up in slippery places and cast them down in destruction.D

FRANCISTOWN:
Anyone who understands "The rules of concord" would know that God definitely didn't write that. A third person subjective, objective, possessive and demonstrative pronouns(He, him, his, that) were used for God himself.

Anyone who understands natural law would know that it is only a Person who was present at a particular time in view who gives a report in a present continuous tense.

FRANCISTOWN:
. It's just like how "biography" is written, you can't write your own biography (To the English liguists, I stand to be corrected).

And this is the correction. Biographies are written in 2 ways:

1) in present tense when it is written by the author himself eg "My Transition Hours by Goodluck Jonathan.

2) and in third party report speech in which the author always shows how he came about the information he gives, which shows that he was either present there or he was not there but was given the information by a person who was there eg see , "Goodluck Jonathan: The Making of a Statesman, written by Mr.Paul Nwankwo.

FRANCISTOWN:
Then we are bold to say God is a liar for creating light before the sun and the moon, and vegetations before the Sun which is common sensically impossible.

Then, we are bold to call you fool, for the nighttime in the village shows you how True that there is a light, even in the bush after the sun has departed.

But this is offpoint.

And you really think you are the first "i hate God" here. Error, all your brother's have raised all this arguments before and we destroyed them, that is why you do not see their rubbish threads again.

But again, all this is a departure from post!

FRANCISTOWN:
They didn't fall, they got busy and just decided to leave you. But I will not leave you alone, I will make you run out of this thread and all of my other threads in the future. People must be liberated

We all know what a fall is, so your attempt to cover for them is useless.

And right now, you have proven you have nothing on this issue, so you have joined them in the fall and have lost.

LordReed:
1. You aren't describing force.

2. Cross dressing is not homosexuality.

Bobrisky and James Brown have showed us that it is.

etrange:
. What is not okay is you using your religion to judge others.

We judge others based on natural laws and unfortunately our religion is founded upon Natural Law.

And under Natural Law, homosexuals are guilty and condemnable.

etrange:
So the question I was asking is, have you ever heard any story of gay people being attacked in those days?

Yes! They were immediately killed when caught in the past

www.reuters.com
Russia's gays fear more violence after brutal murder
13 May 2013 — They beat him. They shoved beer bottles in his anus. They tried to set him on fire. Then they crushed his head with a ..."

etrange:
Homophobia was imported into Africa by Europeans. Many African cultures were not homophobic before the advent of the white man.

This is not true. Africans did not have any need for homophobia because we were not under the Curse in Romans 1:24/ 27.

Homophobia is nature's way of saying "destroy this abomination quickly lest evil and curses come."

But now the cursed has transmitted their curses to Africa and now our blessed Africa is now cursed.

tctrills:
Who is responsible for sexual attraction?

Which sexual attraction? Or rather sexual attraction to what?

Any way all uncleanness and lust and things against nature come from the evil inside you, which you love.

Exactly how 2 people having sex in public is offensive to everyone normal person is how homosexuality is offensive to normal people. It is no different from beastiality.

TheSourcerer:
I really want to be a Christian can you please teach me ? I humbly seek your advice and prescription

Not after all the evil you have done. It is over for you.

jaephoenix:
Yahweh said Hebrew slave should be freed in the seventh year
1. Target word is Hebrew, and not the rest of the world. They can all burn(you included) as long as Yahweh is concerned

And yet by the time of the judges, no single slave is seen in the land of Israel.

jaephoenix:
2. And he said they should be freed after they he enjoys watching them getting tortured for 6 years. It actually gives him so much hard on that he said slaves should obey their masters as they obey him(Yahweh). Now aint that something

Remember this, that the enemy hath reproached, O Lord, and that the foolish people have blasphemed thy name.

Arise, O God, plead thine own cause: remember how the foolish man reproacheth thee daily.

Forget not the voice of thine enemies: the tumult of those that rise up against thee increaseth continually

Destroy thou them o Lord as they are grow in their enterprise. Let them never eat the fruits of their labour and let all their labour be in vain.

May they be broken in pieces by accidents and cut down by misfortune as they go out and come in.

May alll their long life be full of pain and sorrow with none to help them.

Let their habitation be desolate. Let evil be his habitation and let good be very far from his household. May it daily never be well for them and may their death be more painful than an earthworm killed with salt.

jaephoenix:
Did the panel beater create your car body?

Panel beater is a representative of the creator of my car's body that is why he is called a panel beater, everyone knows that except you stupid fool..

Kalatium:
Lol. Just when I have shown that you failed in your reasoning you resort to call me a mad man.

That Is a logical fallacy known as adhominem.

Since you have no better thing to say why don't you keep shut rather resulting to insults.

Now you are resorting to lies because the records here clearly show you had nothing reasonable to counter hence your flying off point in raising agnosticism/atheism/antitheism. So, I did not call you mad, I just pointed out that you are looking unreasonable and not comported (mad) in saying agnosticism/atheism/antitheism and going off point.