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chigoziri2403:
is buhari same as Jonathan

It does not work that way!

OkCornel:
Totally unrelated analogy and response to a simple question.

Is Apostle Paul a Levite according to the scriptures? Yes or No.

He has answered you! it is either you can rebutt or you can't.

And for saying this, you can't rebutt!

RepoMan007:
applying your logic also, is spaghetti bread? Yet the bible says man shall not live by bread alone but by every word from God.

jmoore:
Pastorpreneur is a cancer to Christianity. They have manipulated the word of God for their selfish gains.

Fall of Ad Hominem! You could not counter so you resorted to "attacking the man".

That clearly means you now know you are Wrong! And he is right.

RepoMan007:
according to your folly, man shall not feed on bread alone but by tea and egg and every other food item. Bread was used to represent food generally in biblical context. Same too applied to pastors and levites. Jews and Christians.

Goal!

I love your counter!

jmoore:
The truth is that you can eat your tithe. No Nigerian pastor is a Levite.

It may well be that no Nigerian pastor is a Levite, however, the First Law, Commanding The Judgement of Tithe, states,

Deuteronomy 12:11

"Then there shall BE A PLACE WHICH THE LORD YOUR GOD SHALL CHOOSE TO CAUSE HIS NAME TO DWELL THERE; thither shall ye bring all that I command you; your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, your tithes, and the heave offering of your hand, and all your choice vows which ye vow unto the Lord:

Speaklove:
You should quote me with the aim to refute an epistle birthed out of the scripture without
Making references to any verse from the same holy writ .

These days everyone knows the contents of the Bible but if you thought I did not lay any verse, here is a repetition of what I said with the reference thereof.

"Lazarus was a friend, as proven by the statement of Jews "behold, how he loved him". John 11:36

Hence we see at the first, Jesus did not cry or bother when He heard he had died (for it was even obviously His Plan to show the world that death serves Him as He Said "but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby." John 11:4

Clearly, it was when Mary and the people came crying, He was then moved to tears. John 11: 31-33.

Speaklove:
If you claimed Jesus didn't weep then feel free to explain what took place in the context of that scripture I quoted .

Please don't derail this thread please���

As I said, Hence we see at the first, Jesus did not cry. Just read john 11 and see whether it was not until Mary and her jew company came that He was "moved" in verse 33 and eventually cried in verse 35.

oluwaahmed:
The way you see your god sha. So your god created a perfect world and Satan(his creation) ruined it for him? How is that perfection?

Is that greatly unjust you people have become? Yet you cry "injustice", "injustice", whereas it is your yous giving and doing the injustice.

The mere fact your sister poured water into your mother's soup making you all complain, is clear proof that the soup was perfect before.

oluwaahmed:
That means he created a perfect world with imperfect beings in charge who ruined it?

Correction!

It was one perfect being among the other perfect beings, who destroyed his own perfection and has gone about destroying every perfect thing he can find, which is no different from your sister pouring water into your mother's perfect soup.

oluwaahmed:
Ok after he found out his error, he then wiped the surface clean with "the flood" only for the world to slip back into imperfection? This kind God una dey worship are you sure he is the real one?

When plates, clothes, cars and children get dirty, do we not first Wash them?

So is there anything bad in Washing afresh a thing?

Is it not rather Good?

You guys are just unreasonable, unfair, unjust and evil people who because of your evil, you are just looking to fabricate untrue accusations up to grasping at air, just to say that He Who is All Good, has done something you would like to say is wrong.

WHEREAS, THRRE IS NONE!

aloeman15:
You again.
So, Christ didn't know what He was talking about?
Kindly step aside with your nonsense.
God bless

"Me again"! I love that word! That is what Ahab said to Elijah.

Just say you could not challenge my presentation.

And secondly, Christ taught us to "be not like the scribes and Pharisees, snakes and hypocrites and murderers are they".

And that they Laid Aside The Law!

So we can not keep company with such UnLawfulls!

anoda:
you wise my brother

Thank you.

PWGLTD:
Whatever made you conclude it's wrong and misleading is mindset developed by a set of information...

Exodus 20 clearly shows God Giving The Beginning of The Law to both Moses and the people of Israel.

In Exodus 24:3 we see Moses writing down ALL THE WORDS THE (LAW AND JUDGEMENTS) THE LORD HATH SAID.

So, it is clearly not right to say that "The Law was given by Moses" when you could have accurately and most precisely said "The Law was Given to Moses"

PWGLTD:
you don't refuse or reject a book bordering on THE LAW OF LIFT because you were taught THE LAW OF GRAVITY... ONCE YOU STOP LEARNING YOU START DYING!
SHALOM!

Bad analogy! every reasonable person knows that "gravity" is different from "lifting or lift.

Snake and serpent would have been more accurate, for in them, accuracy and precision will be needed to distinct the 2 which is the basis of my complaint.

Paramountgift:
While you may be desperately trying to pass a message, let's not derail from the primary purpose of this post...'Jesus'

Our message is Christ Jesus, and acceptance of Him, not DEATH
Besides, the goal is to believe God, embrace him, do his will and fulfill purpose.

I understand what you had in mind however, your presentation will raise and indeed raised certain issues of interest. And those issues would be required to be addressed.

Secondly, those who follow Christ, already follow Him and know to Love Him and Obey Him. While those who would not follow Him are verily doing their own pleasure.

The rapture is there already, so I humbly think there is no problem here.

Paramountgift:
Yes, we are not to fear death as children of God...

Nevertheless, it is not in our place to say how a person's death will be, whether believer or unbeliever.

I do not know what you mean by "not in our place to say how a person's death will be" but as Natural Living has shown, it is either day or night, you are either inside the house or outside, you are either a child of God or of Satan thus, you either have a good death or a bad one.

Paramountgift:
...death respectfully greets us....?
Please don't speak from head knowledge and let a good number of your messages be backed by scriptures.

People normally have eyes and are the same, therefore, what I see, I know my fellow human can also see it too that is of course if he wants to see.

Secondly, the Words in the Bible are quite popular such that everyone truly knows which scriptures I have in mind when I speak, therefore releasing me of the obligation.

Paramountgift:
Death comes in different forms, whether christian or non Christian, and the truth is that, we can't provide the reasons for this phenomenon, we don't know all things.

My Eyes have Truly Seen that the death of Christ-Likes is powerfully different from others. It is so different that Christ-likes, even know how long they shall live and when they shall die. It is also one of the several Promises of God stated in the Bible but of course, people never pay attention to The Words of The Lord, so they miss it. BUT I SAW IT. AND I LOOKED OUT FOR IT ON THE CHRIST-LIKES I HAVE SEEN, AND THEY HAD IT. Which is why I confidentiality speak.

Paramountgift:
There were a good number of apostles in the scriptures that died gruesome deaths, contrary to what you've said.

Did you see that they knew that they were going to die and yet they did not waiver from it?

Did you see that they were not affected by the form of death they got? And all these asides the fact that they were supposed to die and they knew it (I bet you did not know that John 12:24-25 was their appointed part.)

If people took God Seriously, they would see that His Words do not just cover living on the earth but also the departure from the earth.

And if people have not even Accepted The Person of God, then they ought not to bother about what things He hath Said.

They can live their lives as they like and get whatever they get. It is there choice to get whatever they get.

I am just happy to make a different choice as I have seen others do, and now I do see and appreciate why my kind of people get what they get that is different from the rest.

aloeman15:
Christianity, Democracy And Governance- Are You A Faithful Servant?...

First, a Christian would tell that the concept of democracy is not one where God's Natural Law and Right and Just Laws Rule.

But one in which men claim to be their own gods and are god unto themselves, therefore, they UNLAWFULLY take unto themselves the UNLAWFUL power to "make" laws for themselves and for their fellow god contemporaries and even subjecting their fellow gods by unlawful and deceitful means to their rule.

Whereas the fellow gods have equal rights to rule over them,

Therefore, who shall rule?

How shall more crimes and unlawfulness not be perpetrated so as to obtain rule?

Thus, how can any person who breaks Laws uphold it?

So how can there be justice and equity and rights?

Christians stand for Law Fullness and Rights, so where shall a Christian stand in these things?

There is none at all.

PWGLTD:
When you see a post of such doctrinal standard, it is wisdom to keenly go through whatever material that was projected concerning such discourse...

We read a book, letters and C.Vs based on their Titles and Headers.

And your title is Wrong and very Misleading.

So my reasonable first complaint and query would be your Title.

kimco:
No it is the same thing. The process of dying is PAAAAAINFUL. Dying is Painful.

That is what I told happens ONLY TO PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE GOD.

I told you that I HAVE SEEN WITH MY EYES, people were truly God Lovers and how they died.

AND THAT THEY DIED SMILING WITH JOY!

AND EVEN THEIR DEAD BODIES FROZE WITH THE SMILE AND JOY ON THEIR FACES.

I HAVE ALSO SEEN HOW WICKED PEOPLE DIE AND HOW THEY DIED WITH A FROWN AND STRUGGLE. THEIR FACES FROZEN EXACTLY LIKE THAT.

So now I walk in the way that I saw my God Loving people walked, I do now see why they were not bothered by death.

Which is why I am happy to report I do not fear it.

But as I have said, you have a right to follow the more popular and common way of Crashing, i choose to follow the unpopular and almost unseen Way of Life and living forever as the Bible hath said

"for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW THERE BE THAT FIND IT" Matthew 7:13-14

anoda:
the same God whe tell dem make dem "rais a child in the way he should go"

And they disobeyed saying "how dem go dey here make dem child kon better pass dem, even to the point say hin go dey challenge me, as I take do to my parents wen dey make mistake teach me?"

It is Written, he that seeth his brother (including child) going astray and did not turn him away, his blood shall be required of him"!

niel63:
Ah... my question is actually embedded in the bold words. They all have meaning and definitions in the dictionary

...Do I do away with the literal meaning of those words? As it contradicts the teachings that was received at an early stage of life.

And herein lies one of the problems with reading the Bible. The information contained therein are not read for the purposes of linguistic value (which is what the dictionary is about), but for Good Real Living Value.(Practical Value).

Eg "Chike loves the world in linguistic view it would cause problems for many questions will arise because, the world is not a person, like Vera or Rita, therefore, what does it mean? For example.

And sorting out of the intention of the Writer becomes a task.

And Nigerians do not like tasks.

So therefore, when you read the Bible and you do not immediately get its information, you land on the immediate conclusion you see and abandon the probe.

niel63:
Now, with what I've been taught about conception and what I know about the conception of the son of God... someone even answered here that it was done through the power of the Holy spirit... and I'm like really?

To give further light I would have answered you by asking is it impossible for Mr. Toyoda to put a Camry in a Camry?

Have you seen that rich man's hatch which had an exact replica car inside it, in the same design?

Does the creator of the yatch need to have sex with the yatch to make it pregnant with a car?

Or did the creator of matryoshka dolls have sex with his dolls to make them pregnant with children?

The simplest explanation is Fear Your Creator, there is Nothing He Can Not Do on you His creation.

niel63:
But if I am to question many things we've been taught, you'd see that it stylishly instills a form of fellow-feeling, not to truly love others, rather those within the same group as we are.

But you have not heard this, "The righteous hate the wicked, and the wicked hate the righteous" Proverbs 29: 27.

Thieves hate honest people and honest people hate thieves; Liars befriend liars and Hate people who speak only the Truth; people who love good things hate people who love bad things and people who love bad things hate those who love good things.

Therefore, there will always be a division which I call rapture.

niel63:
That's bring me to this.
Good people are just good. Not influenced by religion, tribe or ethnicity.

This is a Lie! No one can regularly do good things if he does not have a standard and guide of measurement of what is good and evil.

And this is where he must fall into one of the regular practices of devotion aka religion.

anoda:
funny how they raised this genaration to have all these attributes.

Yeah! They were not good parents at all but God was Present in their time, so they enjoyed His Goodness.

But now, He is Gone Up and all is bad and very bad.

And the generation who have it worse are rather making it even worser and worsest for themselves. That is what astonishes me.

But, let me stay in my quiet place and not talk too much.

Mickykarim:
ABSOLUTELY, THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD.

You might claim to choose Him but every Covenant aka Agreement/Contract requires the Consent and Acceptance of the Contracting Parties.

This, whilst you may claim to have chosen Him, has He Chosen to Accept you?

Should He?

Are you qualified to be Accepted by Him?

Look at Abraham's Covenant, you will see Consent and Acceptance is there.

So, you may claim to have chosen Him but if He has not ACCEPTED your choice, SORRY YOU DO NOT HAVE A COVENANT (CONTRACT) WITH HIM.

SO NO PSALM 23 FOR YOU.

helinues:
And who's Ukrainians shepherd that they are being neglected during this dangerous time?

The Ukrainian President. Not The Lord.

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He is not offering any thing. The Psalm is simply saying all these shall happen when you belong to The The Lord.

donbachi:
He that keepeth u.slumbers not.

And when He stops keeping you?

jmoore:
The registry is meant to register your marriage.

You register your cars yearly.

Why would you frown at registering your marriage?

Registration should really not have been necessary after all it is SEEN when you are married.

It is Naturally Verifiable.

And Lying is A Great Offence, (Perjury, Untrue Representations, Deceit, Fraud etc) so married persons are quite secure in their marriages.

You love talking on Law issues, so why have you not participated in my query of "Legal being fraudulently representated to look like Law when it is not" via my thread https://www.nairaland.com/6989896/lawyers-not-deceit

PWGLTD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zDc

Correction!

THE LAW WAS GIVEN TO Moses.

niel63:
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whoever believed in him shall not perish but have an everlasting life.

When I tried to check the original meaning of these words, I was marvelled.
Yù
Don't misjudge me, if I have to challenge or ask questions about what I already know, it means I want a different answer.

But you asked no question so how can you get an answer not to talk of a different answer.

zeuss:
That luck is God's mercy and grace

When God Moves evils will always call it luck.

And they become right because the receivers of God's Goodness never Truly Follow God to obtain much repetition of "Good Lucks" which would silence these evils and prove that It is not luck but that God Is With that person, hence All manners of Good things regularly flow towards such person.

God makes him a Good thing magnet.

But people never get to this stage and they never follow God.

So, after this one shout, it is usually their last.

Then they start being Anti-God.

hopefulLandlord:
people don't get answers to prayers cuz there's been no single study that points to prayer being useful.

So all the Seeing of people praying to get what they want vs. those who did not pray and did not get are not part of "studies" eh?

You err.

nonut:
Life is not fair to anyone.

Of course that is what Curses and Blessings is meant to separate.

Steep:
Prayer is an interaction with God, Jesus gave out a template on how prayers are to be made, this is called the Lord's prayer.
The following are some of the principles of prayer...

See, I told you the last time that Praying to God is not for everyone for it is written "the prayers of sinners is an Abomination to The Lord"

But you never put this caveat.

Revolution2022:
*Like Jesus turned water into a wine.
*Like how Jesus used 5 loaves of bread and 2 fishes to feed multitude of people.
*Moses who used a walking stick to open the read sea.


African pastors who said they are called by God are not doing all these things in the Bible.

cc;OAM4J

Again?

See, just a few days back https://www.nairaland.com/6238921/why-healing-easy-biblical-times#110528033

That is what "it is Finished" means.

mcdon024:
This is my story, I will try to be brief.
I came to Jos to run a project for a telecommunication ...

It is not Psalm 91 that saved you it is simply God's Mercy and Goodness falling upon you.

And that does not mean you would not fall into another evil situation UNLESS...

Speaklove:
if Jesus wept when one Lazarus was lost in time,

You see how you people change The Truth into a Lie because of your agenda?

And after this, those satanist would use it to stand on the rubbish you said to start speaking their own rubbish.

Lazarus was a friend, as proven by the statement of Jews "behold, how he loved him".

Hence we see at the first, Jesus did not cry or bother when He heard he had died (for it was even obviously His Plan to show the world that death serves Him as He Said "but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby."

And Lazarus got "a sleeping" and "not a lost in time", as you wrongly said!

Clearly, it was when Mary and the people came crying, He was then moved to tears.

Which is why we sing Don Moen's song
"God With Us"

He walked where I walked
He stood where I stand
He felt what I feel
He understand

So, do not Twist or Alter The Truth!