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cherishmichael:
But this our day is more worse ooo
Check out everything.

I understand but if you look at it from God's Eye, you would see it is the same.

This is a case of "my world is worser than your world" but in substance, it is the same!

Phoneworld:
But why is it our 4 fathers talk to God directly, and get result?

They were talking to Christ, The Lord! Side Road! (This is where you learn The Truth about "all power belongs to God). There is also the illegal use of God's Power which is witchcraft, so I presume you referring to the Right and Lawful use of God's Power!)

He is God over us hence Lord God as seen in Genesis, which changed when men understood that He was in Charge as God over them in this world to His True Title of "Lord" which has not changed even today

But He is The Word of The Most High.

Exactly as Moses was between The Lord and the children of Israel.

selfemployed:
I have no problem with honoring the parents.

But if someone is a Christian, he should give out his daughter in marriage in a Christian tradition in fellowship with other christians.

And is the way of Christ not about Honour, Appreciation, Thanks Giving, Recognition, Celebration and Goodness?

What is Good, is Good! This is The Law!

Phoneworld:
Please i want to understand this topic because some religion people said we are not talking to God direct because Jesus said “ i am the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the father expect through me”,

Please no insult, i need someone who is deep in the scripture to enlighten me on this.

When you want to see your president and governors, do you go directly to them?

No.

Same here.

cherishmichael:
In Noah's time, as we all know the story, the people of then did many detestable practices which made God to destroy the earth with flood meanwhile the question here is this, "the badness of Noah's time is it greater than the badness of this our present day"? because if you look closely we could see that in this our day the badness of man has increased multi-million times in full level than the time of Noah, because in our present day activities we got the gadgets the comics, the videos, the action games, movies, and all sort of those things which were not in Noah's time and we can also see many other things which were not practiced in that time, in regards to badness if we come to comparison you could see that in this our day we are more higher and badly minded, we have greater level in the badness than that time and if it was to destroy the Earth once again our time will be no exemption and it will be more deadly than that of Noah's time.
please what do you think share your own experience and thoughts as well.

I think it is the same! For all the people loved evil EXCEPT NOAH AND ENOCH.

Which is we see the Bible say "as in the days of Noe"!

MindHacker9000:
Have you read:
Isaiah 41:8
But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend

Hope you now understand that Isaiah 53:10-11 is not about Jesus but Israel

What kind of rubbish connection is this?

Then what would you say about "Israel is my first born"? Exodus 4:22

Go and find a valid counter. Rubbish.

AABBIIMM:
yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand. [11] He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

ThinkSmarter:
U think u represent God or christianity, but u lack decorum and civility.
U are always quick to call names.
What happened to meekness, patience, kindness, slow to anger, love that Jesus so much preached?
U re temperamental, and u need to work on ur emotion.

Did you not hear that there is a time for everything?

Or did you not hear "they that forsake The Law praise the wicked but such as keep The Law contend with them"?

Or that an UNJUST MAN is an Abomination to the Just?"

Or that these six things The Lord Hate: yea seven are ABOMINATIONS" of which you accomplished 5 of them? Of which this Law was for the preservation of man to his fellow man but you did not Fear but went up to attack The Lord Himself?

Oh Lord, please Come and wipe all these evils permanently away as you Hath Said

ThinkSmarter:
Imagine guiding me on the way to think to conform with ur thoughts.

Mad men too think and express the results of the thinking and we call them mad!

And your thinking is exactly as they are, thus, art thou also mad as the madmen we see in the streets?

plaetton:
Just trying to draw your attention to the similarities in the tales and myths of the Bible.

Tales and myths are always immediately discarded and everyone knows their place is fleeting but the True records of the actions of men, always
by Truth and in Truth prevents people from calling them tales and myths.

We are naturally endowed with the ability to differentiate a tale/ myth from a True Report of Happenings..

Time kills Lies and puts tales in their proper places but Up Raises The True.

And the Bible has had Time as his friend for Too Long that it can almost not be timed..

Oh Lord please come and let all your enemies be utterly and permanently destroyed forever.

May we see them no more!

AntiChristian:
Probably Jesus forgot to mention all this in Matthew...

In your usual foolish blindness, you never see that in the same Mathew a gentile, even the servant of the gentile got touched, in addition to the Canaanite woman.

Clearly Israel had Christ freely, while others would have to implore Him at that time.

trillest1960:
I'm just saying It doesn't have to be personal.. I don't think God needs the defendance of his beilevers.

He is Personally Attacking God and you say it is good that he does it, but I should not?

When a person accuses you of being a bandit/yahoo calling for your burning, would you not demand for a FAIR TRIAL?

So imagine that you are just going to work and a bunch people take hold of you, beat you up preparing to burn you ALL BECAUSE ONE IDIOT SOMEWHERE SAID YOU ARE A KIDNAPPER/YAHOO, would that be just and right?

Tell me, would you not be glad that your Relative/Family/ Friend was there at the time the he was making these accusations IN YOUR ABSENCE, to correct and set the accuser aright?

In Nigerian speak, do we not say "talk am for Hin Front"?

There isn't anything good he has done. He Surely doth Condemn God even before He hath heard Him.

Then the worst of all is when He even makes Accusations frought with Lies Against The Most Good and Most Holy Who Never Does A Wrong!

trillest1960:
...Therefore it seems like he is rebelling because he applies logic to religious ideas, scriptures and doctrines and they don't seem to make any sense to him. But in truth he is only trying to understand God through the tool he has been equipped with by the life giving principle...

Natural logic clearly guides us towards asking questions alone as our children have proven to us and many nairalanders do here eg daddy, how did you stop the car? Or mummy, why do you put salt in food?

But if a child said "daddy how did you stop the car? Ok, it is the car that knew to stop" which father did not turn and give that child an angry stare and depending on his mood on the day, an involuntary thwack may just land on the child with a flurry of insults and ridicule?

Truth is obtained by asking questions, even proper questions AND NOT BY ADVANCING YOUR OWN DESIRED ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS POSED.

IT IS NO LONGER A TRUTH DEMANDING QUESTION BUT A PRESENTATION.

ThinkSmarter:
lol
I'm glad that you are so pissed off with my write-ups.
That's how you religious lots behave like drug addicts.
Bunch of extremists, potential terrorists.
You are pissed off that my religious views are different from yours.
You are pissed off that I am open minded.
You are pissed off that I chose not to be a sheeple.
You are pissed off that I subjected your God and Holy book into scrutiny.
You want me not to deploy common sense and logic in analyzing your medieval religious literature book.
It's late bro, humans have really evolved beyond the yoke of Religion.
Deal with it.

Thinko, think well and think properly, think fairly, presume a persons innocence unless and until you find IRREBUTABLE PROOF he is guilty, that is what normal people do, even in the market place and that is all I ask. .

Bad thinking is exactly like taking the positive terminal wire of a battery and placing it on the negative terminal of another battery while trying to jump start a car. You will burn the batteries and maybe the car and your mechanic will throw spanners on your head.

Same for houses.

Bad connections burn things down and the only people who do this are fools and murderers.

Mickeybook:
you guys are not getting it ... Whether students resume or not , let school resume ... Most of this teachers are becoming more lazier than there students... Most of them have been on holiday since early December, almost a month and doesn't want to start work moreso, the government is not owing you... Our teachers must not be lazy

They know what to do to lazy teachers.p

PrinceOfLagos:
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You think everything is by force

The stupid poster is not human. It does not know anything about Human Rights.

wilcox:
Any defaulter should be sanctioned, we can't continue to disobey law and oder and expect our country to be better than it is.

See devil! Which law or order is broken? Is it government that gives me Rights?

Government Robot commot for hia fast!

Ramirezkhay:


Your explanation doesn't corelate with what we're saying bruh, sorry if it sounds harsh!

I guess you think I'm omnipotent with what you said

You fool thyself alone! You now pretend that you do not know that God truly made you to look like Him (in Nigerian english, you say "resemble Him)

So you have no choice but to stay silent After I have now shown you your own omnipotentness and how you took the plunge, risk and all for either Shame or Shine, Humiliation or Praise!

plaetton:
Same thing as the tales of Santa Clause or Zeus.
Yes, it is human understanding that lags behind.

As you said, they are "tales" and not reports of Truth, so Bible wins.

AntiChristian:
When Jesus was sending out his disciples: Matthew 10:5-7
These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: “Do not go onto the road of the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. 6Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. 7As you go, preach this message: ‘The kingdom of heaven is near....

Here Jesus specifically told them to go to the lost sheep of Israel not to the Gentiles nor to the Samaritans! In summary the world of Jesus is Israel!

And a Canaanite woman who of course Jesus wasn't sent to save proves the topic of this discuss as follows:

Matthew 15:21-28
21 Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon. 22 A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.”
23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.”

24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

25 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said.

26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”

27 “Yes it is, Lord,” she said. “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.”

28 Then Jesus said to her, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed at that moment.

Now, we see that Jesus was reluctant to even attend to the woman despite knowing that her daughter was demon-possessed!
And Jesus re-emphasized that he was sent only to the Lost sheep of Israel!

"Israel is my First Born!" Exodus 4:22
Fool! Everyone knows that First Born does not mean Only Child, which Romans 1:16 clearly shows the plan in saying "salvation is to the Jew FIRST", then others.

And judgment to the Jew FIRST then others Romans 2:9

So as usual, You Always talk Rubbish!

MindHacker9000:
Still does not answer the question:

When did GOD promised in the Old Testament HE will send HIS own son to be crucified and His blood will replace the blood of goats and bulls for atonement of sins?.

You gave this answer before:

Matthew 26:28
For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

But this verse you gave was from Jesus Himself who claimed to be the son of the Living GOD and not from GOD through the Old Testament prophets.

Isaiah 9:6-7

Isaiah 27:7-9.

MindHacker9000:
Also in the Old Testament animal sacrifice was only required for an unintentional sin.

Of course there is no forgiveness for sins Will fully and Intentionally Done.

LordReed:
Ok let's say you are technically correct, however you still haven't answered the question. The question again, When did GOD promised in the Old Testament HE will send HIS own son to be crucified and His blood will replace the blood of goats and bulls for atonement of sins?

Rephrased: when was the promise made that a substitute for animal sacrifice in the person of the god's own son would be sent?

See, Petra how your cutting away of what you people wrongly call "old testament" is biting you.

Just recently saw this one amongst all the other ones I have forgotten and do not care to remember.

Isaiah 27:7-9

8 In measure, when it shooteth forth, thou wilt debate with it: he stayeth his rough wind in the day of the east wind. Christ calmed the sea. Mathew:23-27

9 By this therefore shall the iniquity of Jacob be purged; and this is all the fruit to take away his sin; when he maketh all the stones of the altar as chalkstones that are beaten in sunder, the groves and images shall not stand up.

LordReed:
Ok let's say you are technically correct, however you still haven't answered the question. The question again, When did GOD promised in the Old Testament HE will send HIS own son to be crucified and His blood will replace the blood of goats and bulls for atonement of sins?

Rephrased: when was the promise made that a substitute for animal sacrifice in the person of the god's own son would be sent?

See, Petra how your cutting away of what you people wrongly call "old testament" is biting you.

Just recently saw this one amongst all the other ones I have forgotten and do not care to remember.

Isaiah 27:7-9

plaetton:
Lol @ " commited a lot blunders"
You mean there are a lot of blunders in the Bible? For real ?

You mean contradictions.
Yes , of course.
A collection of fables from Bronze Age ought to have a lot of contradictions.
What has been going on for 2000 yrs is that each new era edits the Bible to take out obvious contradictions, and also to insert their own ecclesiastical agenda.

Recently, the current pontiff of Rome told us that we have to start seeing new understandings in old scriptures. In other words, the current understandings if scriptures does not make too much sense in this modern era.
So, from time to time, as has always been the case, new words and new meanings will be substituted for old ones either through re-translation, re-transliteration or plain old deliberate obfuscation.

And The Truth Hidden Away.

Meanwhile, The Truth is Always Always in the Past.

The Bible does not have contradictions only people suffer a real lack of even the simplest basic understanding.

trillest1960:
I believe you can express yourself without being childish bro. The man is just expressing his reasonable doubts regarding religion and God. Every thoughtful person must have been in his shoes at some point in their life. It's better to ask questions and attain clarity than just blindly believing.

I can and I do speak evenly ONLY AND UNTIL I SEE A VERY WICKED AND UNREASONABLE INFRACTION.

I love the fact that you raised "reasonable doubt".

Reasonable doubt is not the same as malicious judgement advanced in the form of "reasonable" query.

Reasonable doubt implies a normal Good Intended or Good Directed Natural Thinking which may or may not be correct BUT IT IS CERTAINLY NOT BAD INTENDED (MALICE) ILL THOUGHT AND WRONGLY PROCESSED JUDGEMENT PUT FORWARD IN A REASONABLY SOUNDING LANGUAGE.

THIS IS A COMPLETE BAD FAITH POST EXACTLY THE TYPE THAT WILL AND MUST BE WRITTEN BY A HATE FILLED ENEMY OF GOD.

It has no reasonability or balance.

Be not be deceived, the mere fact a presentation looks reasonable does not mean it is reasonable. Poison is always put in a good looking plate of food!

lastchild:
is Israel in the Bible still the same location with the one we know today?

Yes and no.

Yes for they are in the same area and no, for they lost lands when they departed from God and Moses's Curse fell on them.

However, they are still the same stubborn, ungrateful, disobedient, devious children of Israel.

CovidVaccine:
Why is it that the poorest communities are found in the most religious part of the world - Africa and South America ?

Simply because they were once the richest and the most religious communities in the world.

trillest1960:
ThinkSmarter, brother it is a thing of great joy to me that you are awakened.. But your inquiry is not quite complete yet. If you take your inquiry a little farther you will arrive at the undeniable conclusion that indeed there is a supreme being and true religion which is the practice of contemplation and inner inquiry into the nature of reality is the only means to realize that God. True religion has nothing to do neither with dogma nor blind believe. Just as u are inquiring now, keep on inquiring, if you're persistent enough, truth reveals itself to you. People have misunderstood things like hell, heaven, death, birth, eternity, God, Sin and so forth, hence the irrational mystification of these terms which are not in their true meaning any mystery. I could give you a solid logical explanation of these terms. But spiritual awakening is a gradual process to be unfolded at the pace of one's inner development and maturity. One thing I want you to know is that Christ is real, the kingdom of God is real, hell is real, heaven is real, God is real, but all these have being misunderstood, even our A list men of God do not truly comprehend the subtle doctrine Christ enunciated. Keep on searching and remain open, when you're ready u will eventually get to the truth, knowing which, all that is to be known in life, you will know. When you meet the truth, you wouldn't have any resistance because it'll resonate. It feels like something you already knew but forgot. Remember only truth can set man free from the sorrows and bondage of mortality. I was once like you, disturbed and sceptic, now i realize why i felt that way, i was awake, i never believed in any of these religions. God bless you. May the infinite spirit enlighten your intellect!❤❤❤

It is impossible for evil to see in the light. Darkness and Stupidity is their way.

Ramirezkhay:
Sorry to interfere lol... we were told God is all knowing but can you please answer this questions; No 1- Are you saying God is already aware that Adam and Eve will eat from the fruit in the garden but He intentionally planted it there to test them?

DO YOU NOT KNOW that your children will fail their exams?

DO YOU NOT KNOW that your children will pass their exams?

Did you stop from taking the exams?

Or does the exam stop you from having children?

Of course not. Your will of having children shall be done.

Ramirezkhay:
No 2- why did God regretted making humans on earth because they ended up eating from the fruit he forbids them to eat since He's all knowing, I don't think He should feel so amazed or regret the outcome

After your children have failed their exams, would you be proud to declare to the world that those failures of a children are your children?

Of course, you would not.

ThinkSmarter:
...And in Belief system, u don't have to prove anything within the boundaries of intelligence, rational, critical and logical thoughts.

Complete Rotten Food! All because, like many of you church goers/bible readers, you never figured out what "Believe/Faith" meant!

How do you people write a whole 320 pages book in a single page, when a post implies a short message?.

ThinkSmarter:
...Have u wondered why other animals apart from humans don't indulge in religion, this because of their low intelligence.

Now you are happy to stoop so down low to compare yourself with a lizard or chicken.

What a degradation!

ThinkSmarter:
Our imagination is the cause of all technology and religion.
Technologies are our visible imaginations.

Did God not say whatsoever we imagine that we shall do? Nothing new!

ThinkSmarter:
Take a look at this : According to the Bible, pigeons, bulls, rams etc were offered to Yahweh as a sin and burnt offerings.
Imagine the CEO of Toyota demanding a particular brand of Toyota like Toyota 4Runner as a gift or sacrifice from his employees that offending him.

Now your thinking is in complete dissaray for their is no difference between Mr. Toyoda and his employees and the highest lawful power he has over his employees is to sack them.

Or the employees can elect to resign/sack themselves by refusing to work.

So who is going to lawfully settle the offence Mr Toyoda has against his employees?

Continue thinking and i hope you remove every viruse which distorts your thinking processes.

ThinkSmarter:
Also, the case of Jesus Christ as God's only begotten son (contradicting the true sons of God earlier recorded in Genesis 6) as an offering to appease God for the redemption of mankind.
This is like President Buhari giving out Yusuf, his only son for Nigerians to kill in order for him to forgive Nigerians for their actions against the President.

Same as Mr. Toyoda and Employees, like tyre dying for headlight. what a stupidity.

ThinkStupidly is surely your name.

Let me stop here after all nothing good is here.

Uptownerd:
We can't hate what is not real... Only Christians like you and other faith heads hate imaginary beings.

Yet you have done just that! Smh

adoyi8:
Its not wrong to copy from others but its good you copy useful things. Okay I am on a forum created by a Nigerian who chose foreign science/tech over foreign religions and I am also using a phone by asians who chose foreign science/tech over foreign religions. You on the hand chose foreign religion over foreign science and wouldn't let us hear word. I wish you can use miracles to convince us but no its just noise up and down.

Good things (MIRACLES) are given ONLY TO PEOPLE WHO ARE GOOD AND NOT TO WICKED PEOPLE.

WICKED PEOPLE GET WICKED THINGS LIKE DISEASES, SICKNESS, NO JOBS ETC, SO YOU PEOPLE NEED TO STRUGGLE AGAINST ALL THE WICKEDNESSES WHICH PURSUE YOU DAILY.

Here comes that usual stupid counter of Christians are also affected.

MaxInDHouse:
Now i'm sure you're one of those usual atheists disguising with another moniker!

You took too long to know. He is still the crazy stupid fool we know!