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Arrowss:
I need to know, please is the vaccine the mark of the beast?

Yes and No!

Yes! Look at the people who rush for it.

No! Because (the flesh profiteth nothing)

Quest7777:
I was discussing with a fellow Christian on the issue of alcohol. We both agreed that on its own, taking alcohol is not a sin but it is not wise because of danger of drunkenness, addiction & causing a fellow believer to fall in faith.

We also agreed a true Christian should not own a beer parlour or shop. But we could not agree on:

*Should a true Christian work in Accounts department of Nigeria Breweries? What about the Sales/Distribution department?

Surely, The Lord made wine and spirits but, every reasonable person knows they have their places exactly as a reasonable person knows not to eat or have sex during working hours in the office.

So, it is a case of "all labour is good" unless and when your heart doth condemn you.

But I have seen that God does not let His Children get such jobs exactly as His children who are Lawyers do not get Divorce and certain types of not-good Briefs even though they are lucrative and people say that there is nothing bad in them.

But God does not accept any small bad at all. Holiness and Guiltlessness is His Way and Standard.

And when you are His, He clearly Leads, so whatever your way, know that it is a very good way, BUT THIS IS ONLY IF THE LORD IS IN DEED YOUR SHEPHERD!

gnhpowerhouse:
..Can someone point out categorically where it's written as a commandments ..I repeat..Apart from give what belong to ceaser to ceaser defence , Custom and Traditions defence Bla bla bla

Natural Law Rules us and Natural Law is God's Hands in Motion.

And exactly as it is not expressly stated in the Bible that "To acquire a wife you must entreat and woo her ("toast" her) to avoid rape and forceful marriage" so also is it set by God through Nature that honour and respect shall be given to the master of a house to take away his daughter.

Common to obtain favours eg jobs, contracts, connections from a man you go with gifts of wines and money, is it now for the acquisition of his daughter you shall go empty handed?

God Laid Down Natural Law to be the Custom and Tradition of men but men being evil have altered it.

Now you understand why David cried "Do not remove the ancient landmarks" but men have removed it and now "the earth is out of course".

Natural Law is also God's Law and in the same force as "The Word which Proceedeth Out of His Mouth"!

So there are 2 Body of Laws which come from God, you should look out for

1) Natural Law and
2) The Word which God Spoke (which is more than the supposed 613 Laws Spoke more than 6l3 times).

gnhpowerhouse:
Bride price is not a condition for marriage but only as a penalty for rape. Exodus 22:16-17: "If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife. ... He must marry the young woman,for he has violated her.

Wrong!

Isaac paid bride price for Rebecca's hand. Genesis 24:53.

Bride Price is just the Act of Showing/Giving Respect and Appreciation for THE TAKING AWAY OF A GOOD THING obtained from the family of the woman.

And this Law in Exodus is meant to Rectify and Correct A Wrong Doing!

The word "seduces" already tells us that the she would not have given up her virginity if not that the man impliedly PROMISED marriage to her.(Exactly as men do) and she believed it.

Therefore, The Law is simply saying "I saw what happened, because you so desired her, you promised to marry her AND SHE AGREED (A CONTRACT IS FORMED). Therefore, you must marry her if you do not want to be guilty of wickedness and deceit and wrong doing".

gnhpowerhouse:
Bride price is not a condition for marriage but only as a penalty for rape. Exodus 22:16-17: "If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife. ... He must marry the young woman,for he has violated her.

Wrong!

Isaac paid bride price for Rebecca's hand. Genesis 24:53.

Bride Price is just the Act of Showing/Giving Respect and Appreciation for THE TAKING AWAY OF A GOOD THING obtained from the family of the woman.

And this Law in Exodus is meant to Rectify and pppppCorrect A Wrong Doing!

The word "seduces" already tells us that the she would not have given up her virginity if not that the man impliedly PROMISED marriage to her.(Exactly as men do) and she believed it.

Therefore, The Law is simply saying "I saw what happened, because you so desired her, you promised to marry her AND SHE AGREED (A CONTRACT IS FORMED). Therefore, you must marry her if you do not want to be guilty of wickedness and deceit and wrong doing".

Amotolongbo:
Moreover I didn’t see where the father of the bride asked for a price in the bible from the groom except the one with ulterior motive.

The bride price I know was a penalty for raping a virgin

Then you missed the fact that Isaac paid bride price for Rebecca's hand. Genesis 24:53.

Bride Price is just the Act of Showing/Giving Respect and Appreciation for THE TAKING AWAY OF A GOOD THING obtained from the family of the woman.

NNTR:
...Thank you for cementing my point with the introduction of IM PERSONAM because the 'Woman' mentioned en passant by Jesus was alluding to and against Eve, the original Woman

You do know that you are not supposed to commit selfcide in a statement? Appropriating and Reprobating in the same breath?

Surely, this is toast!

NNTR:
Matthew 15:28 — Then Jesus replied to her, “Woman, your faith is great. Let it be done for you as you want.” And from that moment her daughter was healed.

Luke 13:12 — When Jesus saw her, he called out to her, “Woman, you are free of your disability.”

John 2:4 — “What does that have to do with you and me, woman?” Jesus asked. “My hour has not yet come.”

John 4:21 Believe Me, woman,” Jesus replied, “a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.
22You worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
23But a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth, for the Father is seeking such as these to worship Him.
24God is Spirit, and His worshipers must worship Him in spirit and in truth.”

John 8:10-11 — When Jesus stood up, he said to her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” “No one, Lord,” she answered. “Neither do I condemn you,” said Jesus. “Go, and from now on do not sin anymore.”

John 19:26 — When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple he loved standing there, he said to his mother, “Woman, here is your son.”

John 20:15 — “Woman,” Jesus said to her, “why are you crying? Who is it that you’re seeking?”

Each time you hear Jesus say Woman, take it that He is alluding to Eve based of the premise that the woman, is the archetype of Eve. Now with that in your mind, note that, 2000 years ago, Jesus with John 8:10-11, had absolved Eve, so the reason for saying, your time taken up to draft the woman's and Eve's charges were unneeded.

Re-read the memo properly to see how Jesus dismissed the charges filed against the woman and declared her acquitted, essentially gave her a verdict of, not guilty (i.e. 'I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more)'

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

I do not say this to offend you but definitely when an engine does not work properly, we all know it. Therefore, I can not believe that a reasonable person would arrive at such an insane conclusion or accept such a position when it was offered to him.

Throughout the Bible, WE SEE ALL JUDGEMENT IS IM PERSONAM!

Pharoahs Judgement in Exodus is not Sodom and Gomorrah (and vice versa).

Ananias judgement was not Nebuchadnezzar's own.

Judas's own was not Gehazi's own.

As crime is not transferrable so also is the judgement on it not transferable.

Every person is judged based on their own case, exactly as Ananias and Sapphira proved.

sonmvayina:
Lol..shows how unintelligent you are....

You are not God.. so whatever evil you Harbour or believe won't come to pass..

That is how vacuumy and so far evil you are such that you do not recognise God's Words at all.

sonmvayina:
You are really a dummy..sorry to say

God said from dust you where made and to dust you shall return. What else did he say...

You are as moronic as you have always being else you would have known that, that statement is also futurely implementable.

Tochj:
No one attains righteousness by works.
Righteousness Is a gift bestows on us by the virtue of Christ death and resurrection.

It is not a gift but YOUR DUTY TO DO according to Deuteronomy 6:18.

FreshGreen:
WHAT IS RIGHTEOUSNESS?
What is righteousness?...

The meaning of righteousness is simply good works...

Deuteronomy 6:18 clearly tells us what "Righteousness" is!

18 And thou shalt do that which is right and good in the sight of the Lord:.

There is right and bad and that will not be righteousness eg minding your business when you see wickedness being done.

MaxInDHouse:
I think the OP is talking about inherited sin which Apostle Paul mentioned in the Bible book of Romans 5:12:

"That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men (including little children) because they had all sinned"

He (OP) is having the feeling that the Bible is wrong saying people have inherited Adamic sin because his own religion taught that Adam never passed on sin to his progenies!

Satans and little satans will always call God evil even when God never did even a little wrong.

Life and living have proven that when a person does the same things his father hath done, eg boastfullness, womanising etc it is said he inherited his father's sins.

And yet it is he who himself, (just as it was in his father's case) who voluntarily committed the same type or types of sins and therefore as his father was found guilty, so therefore shall he be found guilty.

And every reasonable person understands that but not evils like the op.

Thank God the Bible clearly said that everyone is judged with their own specific doings and not for the doing of another person.

I love the way one social commenter put it on radio during the case where one lawyer was arrested by efcc in court "Crime/Sin is not Transferable!" he said.

Adam, Eve Sodom, Gomorrah, sons of God were all judged for their own acts.

culf:
the urge will always be there, it's only for you to be discipline and anytime the urge come, distract yourself, don't keep thinking about it, get busy and all that until the feeling temporary goes away.

mastering how to control that feeling is the best.

If you knew that all women are that evil woman whom you read of in the news, I am certain the urge will be gone.

Secondly, if you understand that proverbs tells you that there is only one woman in the whole earth who will be good to you (law of male and female), the rest are the-evils, I believe you would understand why God is God Indeed and why He says "Obey me".

Thirdly, you need to Truly understand and Agree to why you need to be Holy else, you will be no different from sin filled men.

Timoleon:
How can you be struggling with sex as a Christian? You are either a Christian (a person following in the footsteps of Christ and utterly devoted to his teachings. Hence no premarital sex) or you are not a Christian hence you have conflicting understanding on premarital sex.

Na so one girl Dey stress me say she would rather be a believer than be a Christian because Christians are sinful people but believers are disciples. I com Dey vex. How person go be believer and disciple of Christ and e no go be Christian?

I tire o.

Like a person saying she is a human being but not a man.

BeLookingIDIOT:
I keep wondering what exactly is the connection with this paganic nonsensical bullcrap with Judaism which it claims to stem from.
The two religions are polar opposites.

It is interesting that someone chose to call the Christian foundations "Judah-ism" instead of "Isaacism" or "Jacobism".

Secondly, it is already self evident that Nature is God's Hand in Action so there is no way that any course towards God would not be natural which evil people would readily call "paganism".

Well, these are the days of the fulfillment of the prophecy on blasphemies and evil speakings.

MindHacker9000:
Why would GOD do the same thing the sons of God who were fallen angels, were doing? Why would GOD just come into Mary like the sons of God which GOD was not happy with? Christians reboot your brains.

Clearly, as with your kind, you lack basic understanding and comprehension in your reading such that you thought to make this stupid and evil comparison just because you are a evil.

Well the Bible did prophecy that you people will come to speak your blasphemies in the dying days of the world.

And God's Word must be fulfilled.

So thanks for confirming the fulfillment of The Word of The Lord!

MaxInDHouse:
What a pity?
Millions on this section will claim they are followers of Jesus of Nazareth.
But here is a thread rubbishing Jesus' birth as recorded in the Bible.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, thanks to JEHOVAH the true God, let them come and defend their faith if truly they believe in the gospel accounts!

Haven't i always told you, you are Satan's child?

Is there any difference between you and Satan?

No! Save for the fact that he is your father and very much older than you.

MindHacker9000:
"It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they’ve been fooled.” Mark Twain

How can people believe these for years without starting to realise that they've been fooled:

Matthew-27-52-53
52 and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life.
53 They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared to many people.

4 different accounts of The Resurrection in the 4 gospels and no one actually saw the Resurrection taking place.

In Matthew: Mary Magdalene and the other Mary saw an angel.
In Mark: Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome saw a young man.
In Luke: The women saw 2 men.
In John: [Notice there was no angel or young man. Here it was just Mary Magdalene, Peter and the other disciple]
"Mary Magdalene went to the tomb". "So she came running to Simon Peter and the other disciple". "Then Simon Peter came along behind him and went straight into the tomb". "The cloth was still lying in its place, separate from the linen". "Finally the other disciple, who had reached the tomb first, also went inside". "Then the disciples went back to where they were staying"

"A fool will always confess that he is indeed a fool, when at last his supposed intelligence has brought him pain, suffering and anguish".

Without going into the greater world even here in Nairaland, it is seen that people do not often give the same testimony, however the substance of the story is clear.

Thus, it is expected that fools will always choose Suffering and Death and do not know that a Living dog is always better than a dead lion.

DeepSight:
I am no stranger to the evolution of language or the creation of words and dare say I have spawned a few myself. However "derangically" is just horrible and twisted to the eye, ear and tongue.

The world does not instructions from you. The mere fact that the words I elected to apply is unpleasant to your sensibilities does not mean that It was was wrongly utilised. So you have no case.

sonmvayina:
We are all going to die one day....nobody is leaving this planet alive. But before it comes I am enjoying it by following the laws and commandments of my creator. Not believing absurdities like you.....

Grow up man. You are not a dummy.

If you are so dim sighted that you do not see that all whom you think are dead, are not dead but only sleep and that men have not died the death which God decreed, that is your own emptiness.

it is after all your own existence and living you choose waste and not mine.

DeepSight:
There is no such word as this.

There was not a word as deranged before!

sonmvayina:
Which road does not?

Go only gave us the Torah to enjoy life before it comes..
Not waste it believing absurdities...

Your Choice!

Timoleon:
So those who wouldn’t harken to the message are cursed eh?

Those who do not obey God's Commands curse themselves and live under curses.

DeepSight:
Nope. Pretty good summary of the unspeakable inanity some imagine to be elevated spirituality.
Most comically, people who believe this infantile nonsensical hogwash will actually shake their heads in pompous pity at sensible people who dont.

It's quite interesting how those of you who claim not to believe the Bible are always the ones go derangically berserk as cockroaches in the light when the Bible is raised up.

sonmvayina:
Basically salvation in the Christian religion is believing that God the Father so love the world that he sent God the son so that man could shed God's pure blood as a sacrifice by God the son to appease God the Father , for God the Father to save man..


Did I miss any bit?

Wrong!

Christ Followership 101 is "Turn Away from the Roads that lead to death!"

kingxsamz:
Gave you another opportunity to answer intelligently but you failed. Tells a lot when you avoid simple questions and give irrelevant explanations to something that requires a straightforward answer. Avoiding it only shows you're scared and don't want to fall into a hole you can't come out of. (An act of cowardice) I'm sure everyone else can see that. lol, Good day.

Everyone here knows that you are just running your mouth simply because you did not expect the kind of answer I gave which you are unable to fault.

kingxsamz:
That's not a straight forward answer and I didn't ask for an epistle. I'll give you another opportunity.
The question is What will you do?
I expect your answer to start like this: "I will..."
So let's see you answer smartly in that manner. Go!

I have answered you already and surely you comprehended that my answer was to the effect that I KNOW MY CHILDREN ARE VERY WISE, so i was not going to do anything about it.

What I am going to do is to call you that my children travelled with the car and have joyfully arrived with our normal travel goodies and they even washed the car ready for another trip.

That's My Kids For You!

NNTR:
Taking out time to draft out the woman's charges was unnecessary

You didnt you read the memo, showing that Jesus asked the woman, the archetype of Eve, the following questions:
'Woman, where are your accusers, Where are they? Is there no one left to condemn you?'...

As seen, every case is independent from each other and therefore, THEY ARE JUDGED ON THEIR OWN INDEPENDENT MERITS.

Thus, the case of the woman who was charged with ONLY ONE CRIME OF ADULTERY, which was brought to The Lord for Judgement, is in no reasonable way comparable or similar to the Charges WHICH GOD HIMSELF (and not men) LEVELED AGAINST EVE.

Therefore, for me to see The Truth of the Case, it was needful to uncover the offences which she perpetrated by her acts in the transaction thereof.

kingxsamz:
Lol, so what if you foresee that your car will kill your children the next day, what will you do?
It's a direct question o. What will you do?

which also means that I know what specific area in the car which will kill my children exactly as we already have eg driving above 100kph aka overspeeding, drunk driving, racing other with other road users etc and we have over conquered these things.

So Surely, my children are greater than these things thus, it is also foreseeable that they would show that they are indeed MY TRUE CHILDREN for they would magnificently arrive at their destination without a scratch and the car even washed ready for another trip .

That's my children. They love to prove woe sayers WRONG!

Owain:
See,the ONLY reason you still go ahead to travel despite the possibility of having an accident or being kidnapped is because there is little or nothing you can do about the outcome of your hypothetical trip. I mean, you have no idea of what the future holds so you just service your car(if private), observe the necessary security precautions and hit the road. What any other HUMAN would do. The same logic goes too for all your other examples, there's only so much you can do!

But, if you know for a CERTAINTY that if you go ahead to travel tomorrow the 22nd of Dec, that you'll DEFINITELY be involved in an accident(hypothetically) that'll leave you completely paralyzed for life, answer me truthfully, would you still go ahead and make that trip??

I want to know..

It is Certain that JUDGEMENT IS CERTAIN!

It is also Certain that The Certain Judgement could either be favorable eg "Thou art Discharged and Acquitted. Entrance is hereby granted thee to enter into the New Heaven and Earth!"

Or Unfavorable eg "Thou art hereby found guilty of sleeping with thy neighbour's wife/husband, stealing, blasphemy .... thou art therefore sentenced to live thy life in the Lake of Fire and Brimstone.

Then the question which remains is "which Certain Judgement do you want to obtain?"

That, you have both a choice and an ability to accomplish, if you truly desired it.