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tianshie:
How old are you?

It's one lunatic who normally comes here from time to time with different monikas when the-evil thinks to have use of him so that he can cut himself with stones and sticks!

Ayo081:
Think about it, God's thought are not our thoughts.

And He has also communicated His Thoughts to us.

Ayo081:
Are you saying there's no one 'currently' living under earth and enjoying God's true blessing?

I Always Say this ONLY ALL THOSE WHO OBEY THE VOICE OF GOD As Severally Written in the Bible eg Jeremiah 7:23

“But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, THAT IT MAY BE WELL UNTO YOU.”

MaxInDHouse:
...Well God only welcome foreigners who are living within the boarders of Israel back then to join in observing those laws because that's the official constitution then.

Respectfully, and this should be my last response to you hopefully, everytime you open your mouth it is a vexation of spirit,

First, Isreal did not have borders when this Law was given.

Secondly, you are your group have already fixed their positions so there is nothing reasonable to debate with you.

Thirdly, a fixed positor can never ever be balanced therefore except for acquisition of the understanding of your bias, which I already know, so no benefit here.

EvangLouisAba:
(1) You teach more with your life than with your lips.

(2) No one is hopeless whose hope is in God.

(3) Only the fear of God can deliver us from the fear of men.

(4) Man has no lack when God is his supply.

(5) The greatest gift anyone can give is a worthy example.

No 3 should read "Only the FEAR of God can deliver us from the fear of all (men)."

Not just men alone but from all fears including Satan, Woman, darkness, evil, hell and death!

Truvelisback:
Eternal life is neither easier for the rich nor for the poor. The needle's eye is a idiomatic expression which is also related to Narrow is the way to eternal life.

I clearly said so at the beginning.

Ayo081:
This is exactly my point.

And my point is people do not truly Obey God Completely and Keep His Laws, therefore are they living under His Curse and not blessed as Job was.

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted in red is enough to help people realize that those laws stands as the bond or covenant between the true God and the nation of Israel it doesn't concern other nations!

So also did the Bible say "BLESSED IS THE MAN that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly,..." and we all know it is to All Men, All Over the World.

But because it suits your wishes and desire to Follow God in the way which you desire to follow Him, thus you have manufactured your own Way, and proclaimed this Lie even when the Commandments did not Prohibit Strangers from following it, nor did it say it is For Only Isreal Alone as it Expressly Said in the case of The Law of The Passover Exodus 12: 43 and 45.

In fact it even welcomed Strangers who chose to Follow After it. Verse 48 "And when a stranger Shall sojourn with thee..."!

But jw serpent has come to find he whom he shall bite and destroy!

Now the Liars and Deceivers have come who think that God should Follow them and Do what they Wish!

Ayo081:
I don't think you should conclude on him yet,

By their fruits we shall know them is THE LAW!

[quote author=Ayo081 post=105838097
The Bible tagged Job a blameless man before God. And that was before his troubles.[/quote]This is another issue where people have been misled and deceived, even though it is very clearly spelt out.

Job's troubles was clearly as a result of the fact that God was using him to humiliate and taunt Satan, which led to a Challenge/Contest between God and Satan to which Job was the Object and determinant of Who between them shall Win over the matter of Job.

That was what caused this beyond normal troubles for Job, for he had obeyed God Completely and kept His Laws, so he was blessed.

SonofIssachar:
...In many ways, there are lots of people like the buzzard, the bat and the bee. They are struggling with all their problems and frustrations, not realizing that the answer is right there “above” them.

In all you have stated, You have proven the Mighty Ruling and Absolute Certain Power of Law.

And that if you are not within the Law that Supports you, You are therefore within The Law that is Against and Adverse to you.

Ayo081:
Oh well, thank you.

A thread on the only way of good living will be appreciated. When you find time.

If you agree, please give me a MT.

Truth is, no one wants that way and in truth, you are the first who has indicated an interest in it.

And unfortunately, the nearest talk that I should give is that you yourself would have to undertake that school yourself and see the lessons there.

Truvelisback:
Shall hardly enter doesn't mean they won't enter. That scripture refers to the rich who aren't born again or are christians...

Even in your own family and environment, you have not found even one rich man whom you would hold up as your own champion whom you believe would even qualify to take the needle's eye test.

That is the same result everyone has and no one has anyono whom they could hold up and say may be "so so and so may make God's kingdom".

No one anywhere has one.

And the mere fact that you fight for this, clearly proves how great your trust is in riches and therefore very far from God!

NaWeDeyHere:
God only speaks to his anointed with no witnesses and in high places with very little oxygen

Now you would have self afflicted blindness to not See that He did not speak with Cain, Abraham, Lamech, Noah on any high place with little oxygen.

olayiwola4u:
...And the Lord said to Moses, “Behold, I come to you in the thick cloud, that the people may hear when I SPEAK WITH YOU, and believe you forever.” So Moses told the words of the people to the Lord...

...In the garden of Eden, the voice of God was not something unusual as Adam and Eve heard it as often as he spoke with them. In fact, there was nothing dreadful about his voice. However, after they had eaten the forbidden fruit, God’s voice became a dreadful thing to them. They could no longer communicate with him freely. The voice that made them welcome their maker became a voice they hid from whenever they hear it.


After the fall of man, God stopped talking with human beings. He resorted to using intermediaries known as prophets. They became his mouth piece. Whatever he wanted to relay to man, he communicated it to his prophets who in turn passed it to the people.


After several years, God decided to talk once again to human beings as he did to Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. They were to hear his voice audibly...

...After so much preparation, God descended on the mountain in thick cloudiness with a huge smoke accompanied with loud, unbearable sound of trumpet which continued with increasing tone until God talked.


The scene was dreadful to all the children of Israel except Moses who was fond of hearing the Almighty God’s voice.


Surprisingly, when God opened his mouth to talk, what came out of it were just the ten (10) commandments. If God could come down by himself from Heaven to the Earth to talk with human beings after restraining himself from physical communication for centuries, then the information from him would be something of utmost importance...

I see that you are tracking God's Speakings I surely hope you learn ALL the Lessons that are there, for surely you saw this words

“But this thing commanded I them saying, OBEY MY VOICE, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in ALL the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.” Jeremiah 7:23

And

"Man doth not live by bread alone BUT BY EVERY WORD which proceedeth out of the Mouth of The Lord, doth man live"

olayiwola4u:
Firstly, the first time God spoke to the children of Israel; the words which came out of his mouth were the ten (10) commandments…

Wrong sir!

The first time was when He spoke to Moses and sent him to speak to the children of Israel, Exodus 3:15.

And there were many SPEAKINGS before the Wonderfull Direct Meeting at Sinai.

Truvelisback:
Why should i be angry when it's obvious that they are politicians?

See, you don't know yourself. Even in this answer your anger and venom still flows.

And this is where you learn that all "vexations of spirit" as Solomon would describe it are evil, and all evils are always always Un Lawful and Outside Rightness.

Which is why I asked the question.

Ayo081:
I wish you can explain further. It's not satisfactory by me.

If choose to start selling sand tomorrow, should I say it's God's will?

Is it not your natural reasonable course out of your natural option to sell sand?

Look at the roots and plantings of the people in the Bible, do you not see that they too were stuck in the farm they were planted in?

Abraham left his father's house under the instruction of God with nothing until God blessed him. Isaac was a farmer by nature, in his father's house, Jacob was a shepherd by nature and had to leave his father's house, so he definitely had nothing in Laban's house until God blessed him, David too,

There are many many things people ought to know and do to break out of The Curse and one of those many classes is the lesson of "Cut off from me, you can do nothing" Absolutely Nothing
So people are just wasting their time and energy, their miserable lives will never change Unless they themselves Correctly Change!.

And so my answers are not meant to feed you but to send you on the way of learnings and discoverings if you want to truly and truly desire to take The Only Way of Good Living and change the way your life is, which is all I can and must do.

Truvelisback:
I said so because u said the rich will never get eternal life which is wrong and unscriptural.

So it is not in your Bible that "VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, that a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven" Mathew 19:24?

Okay!

Ayo081:
Now the question is how do people get to know they're in the will of God already?

Simple! Is it the will and right of the seed to choose where it shall be planted?

This quote helped me

My son grow where you are planted; Success comes in cans and not in cannots!

Truvelisback:
So, who is responsible 4 the poverty? The Bible stated it clearly that the poor will always be in ur midst whether the rich help or not. There would still be poor people.

Say the truth, were you not first angry when you heard someone had millions when everyone was still earning hundred nairas eg Abiola, dantata,ojukwus father etc.

Did you not ask "how did they get their money?"

Could anyone show you their legitimate source of income?

"So, who is responsible 4 the poverty?"

Answer= Men Never ever obey God! For I am sure that you have never heard of this Law "The Tenets of The Law is to Live Honestly, To Harm No One and To Give to each His Due"

But do men obey this? No, they don't?

Dliquidmetal:
lol this guy,so condescending and egoistic. If na insult you wan dey yarn to take make point then I'm not coming down to your level sorry.

Is there any polite way of telling a fellow mannequin that how could it think that because he sees everyone in its showglass therefore it's creator stays with it in its showglass?

Truvelisback:
4rm my statements, Does it sound like i trusted in riches?

Yes, sir! I know it very very well for many are exactly like you and confess the Truths in your heart and I was once like you.

Truvelisback:
I trust in God not in riches.

Sorry sir, you do not for you do not know what "Trust in God" TRULY means, for if you did, you would not be here saying all you have said.

Truvelisback:
However, God desire 4 men is to be prosperous, this includes being wealthy too. So, it's not a crime to be godly wealthy.

If you truly trusted in God, you would have seen and leant the Truth of what prosperity and wealth is and known the kind of riches/wealth God gives and the kind He will never ever give to His Children.

Truvelisback:
U are wrong. God himself made the rich and the poor. Poverty, is not the criteria 4 obtaining eternal life otherwise the death of christ would av been in vein. Eternal life is not only meant 4 the poor but the rich too.

I did not say that the poor would automatically obtain Eternal Life!

But I did say, BOTH THE RICH AND THE POOR NEED TO BE CUT DOWN TO SIZE THAT WILL GO THROUGH A NEEDLESS EYE.

And this is where the poor have an advantage for their cutting downs is not as far and as much as the rich, to meet the needles eye criteria.

Which is why you see world over Most People are Poor and God resisted them to be rich, so that they can easily learn to qualify for Everlasting Life.

That is one of Goodness that God has given men to assist them in getting Eternal Life.

Ayo081:
True,
We should not forget that there're people God himself will lift up and bless just for his works. He did to likes of Joseph in the bible.

Not with Dangote type riches! And this is where people have not cared to learn what God teaches and hath Proclaimed, that you can in deed have every good thing you want and need even when you do not have millions, because of The Law in Psalm 23.

Ayo081:
There're different kinds of service but the same Lord.

The desperation/love to get money by all means is bad.

I am also becoming the type of; God let your will be done in my life.

However, having the knowledge of what to do with the help of the Spirit in all situation is what one should pray for.

I do hope you get me now.

You have said the True Words "let your will be done in my life" but have you seen and ACCEPTED that you are already in His Will, by the very place and state you are?

And not in the place you wish to be?

This is one of the reasons I oppose, for I know for a Trutg people never accept to grow where they have been planted already.

And that is the beginning of their sufferings and hardship and failures.

Dliquidmetal:
... I got this quote from the book "the God delusion" by Richard Dawkins..

I have this quote in counter.

It is only a foolish toy/creation that expects to see it's Creator in its carton.

Ayo081:
Fact is Christianity is not easy and Christ never lied about that.

Like learning to write or read or becoming a doctor it is always hard at the beginning.

But when you had truly learnt all that you are supposed to know, you became the expert in medicine, law, mathematics, Carpenter, driver and all of these things which you thought was hard became too easy

Ayo081:
It's actually good to be rich, using it for good works is just more important.

Yoo too! Even after all you said to him?

If you truly loved yourself and if you truly knew God, you would love where He has kept you.

Dliquidmetal:
crazy how people think you need to believe in some sky daddies in order to be morally upright,..

It's crazy how people who have proven that they are stupid and foolish and have often confessed that they are fools, will think that they can determine what it is Right.

Whereas, even they themselves have proffessed and confessed that they know nothing!

So talk about a fool determining what right and wrong is and later coming to confess that he is a fool o and no one should listen to him.

Madness is it.

Dliquidmetal:
...people wey dey do kill themselves for some supposed rituals would still hits their heads on the floor on fridays and also the Christian ones would carry their bibles and go to church ever Sunday. Who's really fooling who? Look at Nigeria and judge if religiosity has anything to do with morals

People who live in Cursed Lands do all sorts of madness, But those who dwell in the House of The Lord, eat full and live very well.

Ayo081:
I like this.

Don't forget the mission Christ gave his disciples.

Think about it, do you think Christ will be happy if we store up treasures and there're hungry people out there?


The early Christians obyed.

He can not hear you!

He must be rich.

Truvelisback:
4rm the scripture u are quoting 4rm, the Bible didn't say that all the rich should donate all or majority of their wealth to the poor B4 they could enter the kingdom of God. No, that instruction was only given to the man because he wanted to be Jesus disciple.

Wow, you seriously trust in riches such that you discountenance all that God hath Said.

It's over!

kingxsamz:
The question dey choke you?
E dey there abi e no dey?
When you're ready to answer, let me know.

The Answer and The Truth na im dey choke you because you dey find Lie.

When you ready for True Answer, e dey dia dey wait you!

Truvelisback:
Note: Not all the rich people are unbelievers or people who got their wealth tru ill means. We still have believers that are rich. Does that mean the rich believers won't get eternal life?

Even after all I have said and you have truly seen you still want to hang on to your wishes rather than walk your God Set Road?

I said it before and I'll say it again, the Rich can never obtain eternal life and they all know it.