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Workch:
So it makes god made mistakes right?
Things he created could go wrong and he can’t control such?

Is that what you mean?

Can Hp and should Hp control the laptop you are using or should Tesla control the car you are driving?

C'mon man stop being unreasonable.

SuperNova33:
there is no need to counter when there is nothing to counter ...

Lies! You have been trying to counter since I responded but now that you do not have any reasonable counter, you had to quit, as is normal when an opponent has no reasonable objection to present in a debate.

SuperNova33:
for a man set in his ways,it is a waste of time trying to let him see beyond that which he feels he knows...

When a person knows the way to his house, office or school, it is impossible to deceive or mislead him

SuperNova33:
Do you know about Plato's allegory of the cave? ItI applies very well to you. Look it up.

A prisoner knows he is in prison already. if he forgets, his chains remind him.

A Free Citizen knows he is free and if he forgets, his falling down a mountain will remind him.

SuperNova33:
then if ordinary people can't read it then it is no good to ordinary people ...

You don't know how to fly a pain, yet it is still Good nor are you able to read a Doctor's Patients Notes yet it is still Good.

So it is unfair to say that Paul's Writings are not good simply because you can not easily comprehend them.

The solution is exactly as your doctor's notes, you take them to another God fearing Lawyer to obtain the Goods from them, if you want.

SuperNova33:
how do You just come up with all this horse crap?

I am a Lawyer like Paul too, and his Writings are exactly how we write in Law, word for word,

SuperNova33:
I shake my head to your ways of reasoning tho you just bury your head in thethe sand with no way to reason beyond what you know ..

The Bible is exactly just One Big Law Book and exactly like our Law Text Books, it is Filled with both Law and Cases and so, more than you, I would know what is going on.

Which is what Paul knew too.

SuperNova33:
Here is another one tho, Noah.. he asked all the animal to march in ... in twos right ? So how does a polar bear from the polar region get into the ark?

What about dolphins, and aquatic animals?

1) Does too much water hurt Aquatic Animals?

2) Lion and man stayed together the lions den, a man was manufactured from another man, a defenceless and armyless people (isreal) defeated A Super Power Egypt!

Do all these not tell you that "Nothing is impossible with God and that there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING He can not do?"

So what's a Polar bear that He can not keep and sustain?

Exactly like saying Mr. Toyoda can not preserve and Maintain the Camry or the iPhone by Steve Jobs.

SuperNova33:
well all you have said makes sense to you because you are exploring them based on your limited knowledge ... even using don moen song as reference. Sheee ttt!

if my knowledge isn't limited, then I would be ALL KNOWING!

But I do know what I know and as you can see for yourself, you do not have any reasonable counter to present.

Hence my Signature "There is No Valid Argument Against The Truth"

IamMichael:
...Well, if as an adult you have not discovered that the Second Coming of a certain Messiah is scam, a côck and bull story for christianization, I am so sorry for you.

Person wey e Papa no travel, no dey wait for e papa to come back!

SuperNova33:
so devil still can wander into the presence of God and God will ask where have you been like his homie? Sheeeet! Does that sound like enemies ?

That's how Mighty Mighty God is, such that Satan is not enough to be an Enemy worthy of Notice!

SuperNova33:
When we are asked to rebuke the devil?

Satan is Truly greater than we all who are not the Pure son of the Pure Son of God, Adam, then we would have been equal to and with him, for He is Truly a son of God.

So he had (note I said "had') a lot of powers more than us.

Though he lost many of his powers, he is still "greater" than men and therefore he must have all our full attention especially as he is our enemy.

So WE NEED TO RESIST, WAR AND REBUKE him!

SuperNova33:
Ok why was Jesus tested in the wilderness? Common now!

Simple! He came to check why we are not able to kick out Satan!

Which is why we sing Don Moen's song "He walked where I walked, He stood where I stand, He felt what I feel".

SuperNova33:
the new testament is full of errors bro. It was put together to get a particular agenda rolling ... Jesus had a brother who was with him almost always why didn't he write the new testament

Why was Paul the spearhead ? Paul never knew Jesus, he never met him.. But yet he championed the writhing of the new testament. That is why there are errors there God makes No mistakes bro

There are no errors there, Paul was a Lawyer and thus, ALL HIS WRITINGS WERE IN LEGAL LANGUAGE REQUIRING A LAWYER TO INTERPRETE THEM FOR YOU.

And ordinary people can not properly read a Lawyer's Document Correctly!

SuperNova33:
you need to write your own bible ... ok please explain why Satan was still able to go to heaven ? In the case ofof job?

Simple! Because, He had a Right to be there. Remember, he is a Prince of darkness, nonetheless.

And this was a gathering of the Sons of God!

And this is where you learn "Postponement of Judgement and Reservation of Judgement"

Satan's judgement was both Reserved and Postponed.

Eve, Cain and Lamech had their Judgements "Reserved"!

This is where you also learn that the last peoples of the earth shall rise up to judgement first and them Satan, Eve, Cain, Lamech come last.

Under The Law of "the first shall be the last and the last shall be the first".

Workch:
my IQ is low, so I don’t understand your complex logic.

Are you saying that god didn’t create viruses?

You get it, you just want me to keep speaking so that I could say something wrong, which you would use against me.

So one last try, the phone or laptop in your hand which you use to make these posts, is it reasonably conceivable to think to blame HP or iPhone when you use it to commit yahoo-yahoo?

SuperNova33:
the devil has hell ... And do you think he is burning in he'll? How do you explain him roaming about to and fro like a hungry lion looking for whom to devour? If he was under punishment

How do youyou explain that

Satan does not own hell nor is he the keeper of it This is a misnomer that has been handed down from generation to generation.

Hell is on its own and every soul eg Satan, woman, man even pets have power to bring it down upon a person.

Therefore, Satan is not there, he has been apportioned to burn in the Lake of Fire, the same place Hell and Death are going to be destroyed in also.

But pending his Final Arrest and incarceration in Lake of Fire, he is still walking about as a Criminal, SNEAKILY, exactly as a person declared WANTED by the Authorities.

SuperNova33:
devil works for God if you don't know ..

You are thinking Wrongly for the proof of employees and workers are always, salaries, elevation/Promotion (Blessings) Support/Protection from the organisation worked for and Good Retirement Plans

All of these are absent with Satan, he rather has all the things that prove an enemy eg Frustration of work and interest, hunger and starvation, open to harm and destruction, appointment for Capture and incarceration like a Terrorist.

So you are clearly Wrong!

LoverOfPussy:
Christians why una god nor gree forgive devil na?

Because Forgiveness does not cover Evil.

It is applicable Only to misdemeanors and simple offences, but not Serious Offences and Capital Offences.

LordReed:
You would like to so what is stopping you?

1) Their Rights.

2) I have not gone by the way of Aba in about 3 years and Aba has not yet entered my my scope of work or travel plans.

MrBrownJay1:
in my world, EVIL is ...

That's the magic word "IN YOUR WORLD".

And this isn't your world, you are just a tenant.

MrBrownJay1:
we are talking of human being here, ..

Says the man who Screamed "KILLING IS KILLING"!

Now Variation has entered and you have CHANGED MOUTH

Now that you real-eyes that your very Life and Sustenance of Life comes killing, you are no longer shouting "KILLING IS KILLING".

Now you can see that a Killing to keep you alive is Good.

Hence killing of rice and chicken to eat and give you Life and Prevent Death by Hunger and Starvation is Good.

Same for killing mosquitoes, snakes and rats to MAINTAIN and PRESERVE the Life you already have and prevent death by diseases, is Good.

By this sound reason which you have already admitted above, how then can it be evil to kill the terrorist who breaks into my home as a snake or mosquito, in order to MAINTAIN and PRESERVE the Life I already have and prevent my death by violence?

See, how you did not know what is Good or evil?

MrBrownJay1:
sorry i am not a follow-follow donkey that get fed any dumbaaas baseless stories every sunday... i do use MY BRAIN and what you are saying is so deluded that you make you baseless god look even more insane than your cult already is.

Says a brainer who is not able to reasonably decipher the difference between good and evil.

MrBrownJay1:
any person with a damn brain would understand that KILLING IS KILLING

Only a brainless brainman would say this not knowing that even the food and meat he eats which give him Life and Shelter all come from a killing.

In proof that you do not know the difference between good and evil.

MrBrownJay1:
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oh sure, you are indeed and in Truth very very stupid otherwise you would have known many many things which you are supposed to know but you do not know.

Workch:
So god created coronavirus, I don’t understand.
Did your god create coronavirus and HIV?

It's as simple as this. Mr. Toyota created the Camry but when the Camry is put in Lagos Floods by the driver of it and it becomes damaged can it be reasonably said that Mr. Toyoda created the damage?

No!

But can Mr. Toyoda fix it?

Yes, He Can!

It's as simple as that.

Workch:
I am ignorant of how coronavirus came to be, that’s why I asked that question.

I want to know if your god created it. Please educate me

You Forfeit and therefore Lost! (As you already know and once confessed before that evolution was a Lie in one of your threads, so no problems here.

But I wondered why you brought it up!.)

So to your question "how coronavirus came to be, that’s why I asked that question."

My Answer, the same way and place all other diseases cancer, leukaemia, typhoid fever, rickets, beri-beri, Aids came.

But Like Mr. Toyoda, it does not matter what makes the LandCruiser, sick, whether tierods, check engine or transmission, it can always be fixed.

Workch:
Your god created covid19 he even stated in the Bible that he was going to do it. I think that’s your pint right?

Change of Post Son!

Or have you abandoned and Forfeited your Proof of your assertion of evolution?

It is only when you have forfeited, then I can validly enter the examination box.

That's how it is validly done.

awitness41:
Luke 8:18 (NKJV):
Jesus speaking: "Therefore take heed how you hear. For whoever has, to him more will be given; and whoever does not have, even what he seems to have will be taken from him."

Erm, "Therefore take heed how you hear" is clear but the remaining portion will fall out of connection with the topic.

Workch:
How did coronavirus and HIV emerge if nothing evolves. Illiterate.

sorry son, you assert, you prove. That's The Law!

Workch:
Illiterate, so how did coronvirus and HIV emerge if nothing evovles?

Reversing the burden of Proof will not work.

You were asserting evolution, you therefore have the duty of Proving it if you reasonably can.

And asking me to prove it for you, is not you proving your case.

So you prove it yourself or...

Workch:
Satellites can also see the wind and the wind can also been seen from the international space station.

That’s how all typhoons, Tornado, cyclones etc are detected...

You are illiterate you probably think they predict them by magic

Now you have abandoned your wind vane proof of wind and SHIFTED POST TO SATELLITES.

Ok.

Satellites do not stlll see wind, they see dust particles massed together (even us too with our eyes we can also see them too).

But we all know that we do not see the Wind, same for the satellites too.

If that was True, then they would also be seeing ghosts and spirits too.

Workch:
He didn’t create anything, they are product of evolution and aftermath of the cooling universe since the Big Bang

See you choose to accept a Lie as is your right to drink poison.

Nothing evolves, only New Modified Versions of old products are Released exactly as Peugeot 505 is different from the New Product Peugeot 505 Evolution!

And no one has ever said 505 evolved except Liars and Fraudsters.

Workch:
By using a wind vane. How can we prove that god exist?

Wind vane shows the direction of something called Wind is going, it does not prove the something called wind.

Put away all your personal and community Wishes and Desires!

BiafranOG:
don't argue with people who say there's no God.. Na them dey turn to strong pastors after. Dragging with them is a waste of time

This one will not for na dem don fall for that hole wey person no dey return.

hupernikao:
And you spend your time daily disputing on what you know doesn't exist? You dey try o.

Bro, I hope you are not troubled?

Of course he is troubled because the more a person seeks to deny God, the worser and worser he can not let go of the thoughts of God!

That's what happens to them especially those who were formerly applying to be Godlike.

It is said today is Saturday the 18th of September but how can anyone prove it to a person like you, who does not see?

MaxInDHouse:
Henceforth anytime you quote me without reference to the Scriptures i'll just shun you and your post! Hebrews 4:12

Did you not just acknowledge that we are not in the same Book?

Stick to your side of the fence and I'll stay in mine and right now there is nothing to say to each other. 1 Eghosa 22 verse 1 and 2!

Myer:
JW members clearly have their own bible which I believe is the reason their own interpretation and doctrines differ completely from others.

So yes you're, you're both not on the same book not to mention same page.

Hence there are 3 possibilities here;;

1. One of you is wrong and the other is right.
2. Both of you are wrong.
3. Both of you re right.

True, those are the options and this is where ability to discern Truth is a Relevant and Powerful Skill.

Myer:
Are you now a discerner of intentions?

My intention is simply to ask as an irreligious person, if another religion had made this same claim, won't Christian's have said that religion is fake because the condition has not been met even after over 2000 years?

See how terrible you think? How can you ask a mechanic what a surgeon shall think about a fake heart surgery?