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Expanse2020:
Even the bible said God cannot die and you are still arguing here
Chaii

I have already told you A Person Who conquers death cannot die, so stop repeating yourself because you see you do not have any reasonable thing to say again as you have seen that if you have to do all the work for your supposed god suppose to do, it means say your god no dey exist! So chill 😁🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Gabrielshow26:
He is a lawyer not a science student. Pardon his ignorance😅. Omo, budaatum you wicked gan😂. Why would you do something like that 😂?

So when you you go buying land you tell them that you want to buy 2/25 fraction plots of land, ehn?

Now because i beat you silly in showing that you could not provide a reasonable and valid counter to rebut that "sex is not the forbidden fruit" is why you are now going about slandering and maligning me to the point now that you have aligned yourself with the ivue, ungodly atheists here. Yet, you said you are Christian and born again.

But now your True nature that you are a seed of the Serpent has clearly and indisputably come out. Yet, you were trying to argue and denying that the serpent Is not your popci, meanwhile you have been behaving just like him all along.

Janosky:
Do you read your Bible especially Genesis 3:22-24?

That verse puts an end to the "forbidden fruit is sex" mantra.

Pls stop deceiving yourself.
I'm begging you .

"And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever"

How does this show what the forbidden fruit is? If anything this verse proves it.

But, you are the one now asserting, so prove

nurey:
Relationship is about compromise. If you cannot compromise and give freely without expecting something in return, you are not ready for a relationship.

God loves a cheerful giver

If only you opened her wardrobe to see the packets of tall exotic biscuits, chocolates, crackers, sweets, juices, which other fufus and pounded yams have given her

BRATISLAVA:
Just get into a relationship and stop these endless anti women threads. Or be gay, nobody will kill you for that.

Everyday needless lessons on women this, and women that. Give it a rest. Men aren't angels. Women aren't demons.

The facts show that women are dem0....s. and men have been put down since. So the threads are good to jack men up to their true place

In return they get beating, cheating, disrespect, disregard the whole 10 yards

Now I believe this is staged. Even bandits caught with guns never admit their crimes.

Trump and Tinubu,.. A political movie is in play

See how another person arrives at this same conclusion from another angle

"This happened on a very rare occasion, but the truth was that it actually first occurred in the book of Genesis. Cain and Abel were of this same process. I know many of you will want to argue, I don't blame you because even most of your teachers and pastors don't know this. Cain was the son of the serpent while Abel was the son of Adam. You ask how come. Same process. Have you wondered why Cain was never listed in the geology of Adam if actually he was the son of Adam. The forbidden fruit was actually about sex and not fruit. and devil was actually not a serpent but a being that has the character of a serpent in terms of WISDOM.

https://www.nairaland.com/8664678/meet-michelle-lavinia-osbourne-twins#139290386

See how another person arrives at this same conclusion from another angle

"This happened on a very rare occasion, but the truth was that it actually first occurred in the book of Genesis. Cain and Abel were of this same process. I know many of you will want to argue, I don't blame you because even most of your teachers and pastors don't know this. Cain was the son of the serpent while Abel was the son of Adam. You ask how come. Same process. Have you wondered why Cain was never listed in the geology of Adam if actually he was the son of Adam. The forbidden fruit was actually about sex and not fruit. and devil was actually not a serpent but a being that has the character of a serpent in terms of WISDOM.

https://www.nairaland.com/8664678/meet-michelle-lavinia-osbourne-twins#139290386

So, things eg, your house, mannequins, yourself just create themselves abi?

Ah devu, God puni.. u

Beautifulday:
Man actually is a god as satan and demons, angels are gods.

The question is

Who or what is God (god)?

If you identified that man is a god, then you know that there is a God Who made the man and made him a god instead of a tree or cow, since man did not make himself and couldn't make himself.

Neoteny:
And what about pre-Socratic philosophy, notably the Sophists from the 4th and 5th century BC? What abou Thales, Anaximander, Anaximenes, Xenophanes, Heraclitus, and Pythagoras? Xenophanes is known for his critique of the anthropomorphism of gods. What about the Eleatic school (Parmenides, Zeno of Elea, and Melissus) from the 5th century BC?

Parmenides claimed that only one thing exists and nothing can change. Zeno and Melissus mainly defended Parmenides' opinion. Anaxagoras and Empedocles offered a pluralistic account of how the universe was created. Leucippus and Democritus are known for their atomism, and their views that only void and matter exist. The Sophists advanced philosophical relativism. The Pre-Socratics have had significant impact on several concepts of Western philosophy, such as naturalism and rationalism, and paved the way for scientific methodology.

The issue here is the OP limited his worldview to Abrahamic religions, specifically Christianity because he himself said the Bible is the foundation of his moral principles, and indeed for universal morality and therefore atheists have no other source of ethics outside the Bible. And this is where i countered that ancient religions existed before the Bible, with various gods in their pantheons that are now viewed by the Abrahamic religions as paganistic and heathen religions.

And the issue of philosophy with the concept of ethics (the foundation of morality) exists outside the religious bubble. Philosophy existed thousands of years before the events ascribed to the Bible, so how can the Bible be the source? Clearly this is a contradiction, and to suggest otherwise is not only illogical, it's borderline asinine.

Read about the pre-Socratic philosophical and focus on dialectics instead of dogma, and you'll have enlightenment.

They too were born from pagan worshipping parents and society. So religion was on ground before academic philosophy.

Also, morality is the same as ethics and yes morality was already on ground before the bible was written. However, because the Bible starts from the pre-beginning of man and this world it is older than pre socratic people. Therefore, it is not out of place to view it as the source of morality.

Theawakensoul:
And anyone who questioned it?
👉 Was labeled a doubter
👉 Or worse… a heretic
.

Devhu has come again. Continue. When God answers back don't make noise.

You say don't take a side yet, clearly you are advocating against it. And then you are lying against it as many threads have freely raised their questions and it has been answered, so this is just another antichrist post

chieveboy:
You are right as always.

I always pursue the right and speak the right

Theawakensoul:
I hear what you’re saying, but that conclusion is too quick.

👉 “It has been settled” by who exactly?..

Truth is quick, short and precise.

That is what many many threads here have since settled. It is so settled that no one is participating in this type of discussions anymore. It has become stale and mechanic.

chieveboy:
I said a child lived with and was spoon-fed by Dangote. In elementary terms, the statement means from birth, the child is in Dangote's house. He knows no other as father.

You are asking if the child grows up, he should request pictures of Dangote whom he grew up to know as his father. Did you ask your father to furnish you with pictures of your father?

Are you not certain beyond reasonable doubt that the person who raised you from birth is your father?

Make your question make sense to yourself.

See again what your association with deluers have done to you?

I clearly said "Which child did not verify if their father is Dangote?..." but see how you have twisted it into a saying i am asking you i"f the child grows up,".

And this is of course the fact that it does not make sense how the person who you said was lying is still the same Dangote, the father, who you said that the liar, was telling him that it is his.

Clearly u twisted and so far from Truth that you no longer remember that we all checked and verified how the person who we were told is our, father, is our father even beyond pictures and everything.

And that in proof we saw the pictures of he who is said to be our father and that the pictures proved it. And of course why do you think wedding pictures and parents and baby pictures are hung on the wall?

Your colt has made you no longer know the difference between Truth and delu

chieveboy:
...On truth being relative, the so-called dry land when zoomed in would be a sea of moving and active atoms which is the same fabric and building block of what ever a human would refer to as liquid. This means, dry land is relative to the vibratory rate of the atoms on land and not universally dry land...

See, your delhu does not let you see Truth if not you would have known that supposed atoms in solid things like dry land do not move. And dry land does in its natural universal and truthful state does not vibrate, so no atom is moving. And dry land cannot be seen as liquid sea, it takes delo to see that

Theawakensoul:
..But here’s where the real question begins…

👉 If people are defining the same word in completely different ways…

Are they actually describing the same reality?..

All these have been covered, profiled and settled hence whoever says the real, fake or rubbish one, we tell it to them straight

LordReed:
Yes my family members like that Christian preacher that was born with no arms or legs. LoLz.

That is one of d cus that hangs on u piipu. Lol

LordReed:
Tell your god to keep one of them alive for 200 years minimum kpere. Bwahahahahaha!

We are ok with what we have and certainly not dying tormentouslly like you pipu, terrifyingly crying and regretting your lives Hahahahahahahaha!

LordReed:
Bwahahahahaha! Perfect and long lasting indeed. So perfect you have people born without limbs which your god cannot fix nor can he fix the myriad of health problems people encounter in their life time. He can't even prevent death. Your god is a fraud. LoLz.

Hahahahahahahaha
You are just repeating yourself devhu. I have already told you that those people are your family members, so their afflictions are you peoples pun. ish mens.

LordReed:
LoLz. Which of them will not die, point them out let's see. Bwahahahahaha!

Surely not dying tormentouslly like you pipu Hahahahahahahaha.

correctguy101:
Well said.

Plus who'd want bad and wicked things to be done to them?
Unless the being is no longer human. (In case some oversabi decides to use some crazy psychos as example)

Those ones are no longer humans in my book.

Letting religion decide what's right and wrong for you but later you cry and shout when Islamic terrorist do "what's right and proper" as recommended in their own books?

You people are hardly serious.

That is the funny thing. No one wants bads and wrongs done to them yet they do it to others.

It is moral, that they receive the bads and wrongs that they have done. And that is the purpose of hel

Gabrielshow26:
Your assertion that all believers experience a 'panic session' at death, a reflected transformation of Dtruthspeaker's claim🥱, is a hasty generalization that contradicts established clinical research. Primarily, studies on death anxiety actually show an inverted-U relationship: the highest levels of fear are found in those with uncertain or moderate beliefs, while both the devoutly religious and committed atheists report the highest levels of peace.

This part is a lie. Atheists can never die in peace. I missed the death of one atheists i know and he was stabbed. And his burial was even funnier, dry prayers was said for him and even to put him in the grave, the coffin did not enter. Hours passed as they tried forcing him to enter but it still did not work and i left. Clearly shows you that as in life, even in death there is no rest for him

LordReed:
Even car makers will fix a mistake the user made but your wimp of a god is too dumb to do anything. Car makers even make spare parts for their products but your all powerful god is too dull to figure out how to do that.

See, it spoken like a true devu.

They fix the mistake you made only when you pay for it. They make spare parts because their cars are not perfect and long lasting. But God created us perfect and long lasting, so no spare parts needed as many people here already proven.

So, you are only repeating yourself

LordReed:
Right, the parents who have been Christians all their lives are only praying now. The nonsense you people have to make up to defend your beliefs is astounding.

Because, you define Christian as people who pray and go to church, whereas God knows those who are worshiping Him and He always pours many many blessings on them so they don't need to go through this shi..

correctguy101:
In my experience, it's mostly the other way around.

Most believers won't even look for any opportunity to save themselves when faced with dangerous situations. They only know how to shout "Jesus" at the top of their voices...

I have experienced more than one such situation. And was instrumental in rescuing a girl one time. The only injury she got was on one leg and was minor compared to the other person involved. All these experiences, I came out without injury. I'm not saying I'm anything special to have come out without scratch but I've had the habit of going into sharp mode when I sense danger. Even with increased heartbeat, I'll still be calm.

Even when I did operation back in the days, lols. I shared a ward with one man. When he did his own operation, he was just shouting Jesus Christ when he came to. Although, the nurse said I was calling for my mum, I'm still embarrassed. But I was calmer. So I was told.

Well, I can't use my self to compare other unbelievers as I don't know their own mind on matters like facing death or experiencing death threatening situations.

So on the bolded, I'll say the believers fear death more as most unbelievers have come to terms with it, most of us wouldn't mind it all even if that fear exists as is common with all living entities.

That is not a believer just a person who believes that shouting The Name shall save them. And their panic shouting tells you that they are not believers, for there is grace God gives to His own. That is why you saw Stephen and the disciples, David, Abraham, Moses etc face certain death with joy and peace.

That is why you heard Paul say that he prefers to die than to live.

Death is a very good thing to a believer, so they are always happy to enter it

correctguy101:
The bolded.

Just because you watched someone die. You now claim you know first hand about dying and death?

How?

I have been studying for a long while watching what happens and how it plays out, and then like a final class God put me in the situation where I could see everything direct, second by second from (as Catholics would say) from the calm travails to when the restless of death walk. And the craz thing was that as soon as they told me that he has been taken to the hospital, i immediately knew that this was it. And as soon as saw him, i saw that he was going, even before the travails started.

correctguy101:
Gods...

You mean all believers are without ailments? And none has ever been taken down with stroke?

The major difference is in the way they are dying. I believe also that the mode of death too will be different but I have not verified this fact.

But what i have verified is the fact that everyone who is not a child of God, goes into a great, ugly panic session full of terrors and expressing great resistance and complete refusal/unwillingness to die.

correctguy101:
Lols...

How ?

How what?

His cup got full

orisa37:
GOOD IS RIGHTEOUSNESS. GOOD IS WISDOM AND IS GOD.
EVIL IS SELFISHNESS. EVIL IS FOOLISHNESS AND IS SATANIC.
GOD IS YOUR GUIDANCE ANGEL YOUR CREATOR AND JESUS CHRIST THE RIGHTEOUS IS THE PROPITIATION FOR YOUR SINS AND THE DECIDER OF YOUR END IN LIFE OR DAMNATION.

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